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RichyBlacK (m)
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I said God did not forgive Noah's son and it is clearly in the Quran. See Quran 11:45-47, likewise his wife Quran 14:9, 17:3, 17. Stop twisting my words.
Why should the christian god be merciful, the christian god is a bloodthirsty vampire, he killed his only beloved son despite jesus not willing to die, see mathew 26:39 'and going a little further he fell on his face and prayed,'my Father if it be possible let this cup pass from me, nevertheless not as i will but as thou wilth'
mathew 26:42 'again for the second time he went away and prayed,'my father, i f this cannot be pass unless i drink it, thy will be done'
poor jesu, if God cannot forgive and have mercy on his son then who are you (silly Ghost worshipper) to be forgiven. I pity you
Say any nonsense you want to say, think any foolishness your mind permits you to think. Just don't kill those that want to leave your religion. Na by force? |
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Abuzola (m)
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I have not kill anybody nor will i ever kill anybody, inshaAllahu i will go to my grave and meet my Lord with clean hand. Am not an armed robber nor a criminal, i have a clean record of decency and young gentle man who is scared to hurt an insect wallayi in my schools and in my place of work. The fact that i vomitted the truth unlike some muslim who hide things about Islam fearing of condemnation and yet when it comes to who are the true muslim they beat their chest and say 'i am proudly a muslim', shame on you, if u are proud to be a muslim then why do you conceal the truth about Islam fearing condemnation.
I am proudly a muslim and I will never betray Allah and His Prophet. On the Day of Resurrection the truth shall prevail of every one of you
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uplawal (f)
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@Abuzola, yes man,u get right, i will also be a witness to many of them
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olabowale (m)
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@Aloy.Emeka: « #82 on: October 09, 2009, 11:13 PM » You are not that important to the outside world. As a matter of fact, the free world will care less if Islam exists except when their life is threatened. What is there to ridicule about Islam? For slapping a cardinal, the first war was waged. But you think the whole of 1.5 Billion people is not equally important? And there is nothing called free world, except that they are playing you like fiddle. Sidon there, they will selling water to you in 9ja. But rest assured, we the muslim will raise Cane to protest it and we will try to not over price it for you! And what Abuzola said was correct. And your God does not forgive everyone, otherwise there will not be Lake of Fire; whats the purpose of this place of punishment, anyhow, if you are sincere? |
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Aloy~Emeka
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Olabowale,
First world war[1918] was not about slapping a cardinal. Where did you get that information?. It's muslims that can start a decapitation campaign just because the quran was desecrated of because Richyblack slapped Imam Abuzola in Bauchi.
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GODSON2009 (m)
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I have not kill anybody nor will i ever kill anybody, inshaAllahu i will go to my grave and meet my Lord with clean hand. Am not an armed robber nor a criminal, i have a clean record of decency and young gentle man who is scared to hurt an insect wallayi in my schools and in my place of work. The fact that i vomitted the truth unlike some muslim who hide things about Islam fearing of condemnation and yet when it comes to who are the true muslim they beat their chest and say 'i am proudly a muslim', shame on you, if u are proud to be a muslim then why do you conceal the truth about Islam fearing condemnation.
I am proudly a muslim and I will never betray Allah and His Prophet. On the Day of Resurrection the truth shall prevail of every one of you
i am really happy for your life at the bolded,its a shame your spiritual father mohammad was the opposite of you o a real shame  i must remind you though that a gentle man can not be in islam o, have you seen gentleman in oshodi motor park before,or a gentleman in niger delta creeks lol remember that it is not only about the greater jihad,but the lesser jihad which is your responsibility as a muslim,so we r not sure you wont have blood on your hands anytime o |
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Abuzola (m)
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« #102 on: October 12, 2009, 10:27 AM » |
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'and he whom Allah guides, he is led aright, but he whom He sends astray, for such you will find no helper/protector besides Him and We shall gather them together on the Day of resurrection on their faces, blind, dumb, and deaf, their abode will be hell, whenever it abates, We shall increase for them the fierceness of the fire' ' Quran 17:97
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olabowale (m)
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Aloy-Emeka; You are correct. ButI thought that I read that in a world civilization class that I took some 30sothing years ago. I remember that it started on something very simple,almost ordinary like that.
However, as I am researching it, today, there is a lot discovered, especially the role of the Jesuits which was undoubtedly front and center.
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olabowale (m)
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@Richyblack: « #96 on: October 10, 2009, 07:42 AM » Say any nonsense you want to say, think any foolishness your mind permits you to think. Just don't kill those that want to leave your religion. Na by force? Same applies to christianity. |
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RichyBlacK (m)
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@Richyblack: « #96 on: October 10, 2009, 07:42 AM » Same applies to christianity.
Arrghh, you miss the point! There are some misguided Christians who have listened to unfortunate pastors telling them their children are witches and went ahead to maim, abuse, beat and sometimes kill their own children. Such people should be jailed for murder, irrespective of any nonsense religious beliefs they may claim. Likewise, we have lunatics among Muslims who have maimed, abused, beaten and even killed their children because of some nonsense from some book or based on what some crazy imam told them in the mosque. Such fools should also be jailed for murder. I'm not interested in what anybody believes in, as long as those beliefs are in their head and they practice those beliefs without interfering with others, whoever they may be, that do not share similar beliefs. Finally, let me reiterate my position succinctly, respecting the fundamental human rights of an individual trumps adhering to any ideology embedded in ANY religion.Going against this simple view is what has led to radical groups like al-Qaeda, the Taliban, al-Shabab and the likes. |
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Nezan (m)
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Aloy-Emeka; You are correct. ButI thought that I read that in a world civilization class that I took some 30sothing years ago. I remember that it started on something very simple,almost ordinary like that.
However, as I am researching it, today, there is a lot discovered, especially the role of the Jesuits which was undoubtedly front and center. Must you be dishonest in all your posts? show some level of maturity, man! |
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muhsin (m)
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Hi all,
Sorry for my brief absence; that happened inevitably. But am back as kicking and lively as ever. . .thanks to Allah.
Reminder:
Well, to the thread: the OP was openned to discussed Honor Killing, either this practice is Islamic or not. The thread starter and other folks believe(d?) it was and started making noise in trying to attach it to Islam and Muslims. We Muslims aptly enough debunk and refute their earlier assertions. And am damned sure they as well as other non-participant bodies have come to that cocnlusion, i.e. Honor Killing is not Islamic. Isn't it what happened?
But the thread degenarates to something else. I'd like all these interested in other topics being discussed to start fresh thread (s) regarding these issues they wanna discuss and inshaAllah their question/criticism/challenge/etc will be addressed to ASAP.
Thanks
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olabowale (m)
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@Nezan: « #107 on: Yesterday at 11:30:51 AM » Quote
Aloy-Emeka; You are correct. ButI thought that I read that in a world civilization class that I took some 30sothing years ago. I remember that it started on something very simple,almost ordinary like that.
However, as I am researching it, today, there is a lot discovered, especially the role of the Jesuits which was undoubtedly front and center.
Must you be dishonest in all your posts? show some level of maturity, man! my maturity is my acknowledgement of my mistake. How my saying that Aloy.Emeka fits your outburst of allegation that am dishonest, beats me. Care to explain, or your hatred of me as a muslim clouds your judgement and you cant see when a person is honest? Am I not a human being? Even your lord made mistakes which caused a tree its life before the season to fruit! You sound like a man suffering from "blackman rage syndrome." |
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Abuzola (m)
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« #110 on: October 14, 2009, 06:32 AM » |
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Hehehehehe
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Nezan (m)
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Must you be dishonest in all your posts? show some level of maturity, man! my maturity is my acknowledgement of my mistake. How my saying that Aloy.Emeka fits your outburst of allegation that am dishonest, beats me. Care to explain, or your hatred of me as a muslim clouds your judgement and you cant see when a person is honest? Am I not a human being? Even your lord made mistakes which caused a tree its life before the season to fruit!
You sound like a man suffering from "blackman rage syndrome." Maturity indeed!  |
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olabowale (m)
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in america, black men (lol) are assumed to be angry people. Collin Ferguson who murdered people on Long Island (LIRR) railroad system some 2 years ago was defended by William Kunsler with the 1968 black power "blackman anger/rage syndrome" resulting in life imprisonment sentence rather than death penalty!
He is a Christian by the way. if he had been a muslim, the whole of america would have said its terrorism!
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olabowale (m)
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nezan is indiscriminately antagonizing on anything and everything islamic! if a muslim says good morning, to him in abuja, am sure he will snap like a snapping turtle. ready to fight and sriticise Islam. This dude is in a class all by himself: worse than noetic, i must admit.
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tpia.
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He is a Christian by the way. if he had been a muslim, the whole of america would have said its terrorism! ^^ no they wouldnt. |
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focused123 (m)
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by Allah, i know honor killing is not part of Islam!.
That is a lie. |
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olabowale (m)
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@Tpia: « #115 on: Yesterday at 04:27:15 AM » Quote
He is a Christian by the way. if he had been a muslim, the whole of america would have said its terrorism!
^^ no they wouldnt. Do you have a proof? My proof is the same expression used on the guy because he is Black. Since black people are assumed by the whites in power to be angry because of past injustices and discriminations, the Muslims will be assumed that they suffer from being ostracised, hence resorting into terrorism to express themselves! Tpia, do you know America and her treatment of muslims? I live here and I am a muslim. I aught to know better than you. Abi? @focused123 (m): « #116 on: Yesterday at 11:36:57 AM » Quote
by Allah, i know honor killing is not part of Islam!.
That is a lie. Proof me wrong from Quran and or ahadith. By the way, ahadith that does not find its fountain head in the Quran is not an authentic ahadith: Surah Huud, Verses 14 to 20, when you read the Tafsir of it! An waiting, focused123. |
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muhsin (m)
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Honor Killing is not Islamic, I repeat; if its prove that. And if you cannot, simply shut up. Chapter closed.
Next case. . .
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Aloy~Emeka
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Honor Killing is not Islamic, I repeat; if its prove that. And if you cannot, simply shut up. Chapter closed.
Next case. . . The proof is that only Muslims from different tribes and races in the world practice honor killing. If its not Islamic culture, then what is it? |
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olabowale (m)
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Aloy~Emeka: Is Igbo culture of Osu caste system Catholic culture? If not, then the cultures that do honor killing is just that; their cultural nuances. If its yes, then unfortunately for your catholic culture merging with what almost every igbo people is ashamed of. Fortunately Islam is a unique culture of its own; not makkan preislamic, not madinan preislamic, not arab preislamic, not igbo preislamic, not yoruba preislamic, not hausa preislamic, not edo preislamic, not wollof preislamic. all people who want to practice true islam will have to throw away all that are bad from their own cultures, retain what is good (Islamic compartible) and adopt others to have a full flavored Islamic culture!
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Aloy~Emeka
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Aloy~Emeka: Is Igbo culture of Osu caste system Catholic culture? If not, then the cultures that do honor killing is just that; their cultural nuances. If its yes, then unfortunately for your catholic culture merging with what almost every igbo people is ashamed of. Fortunately Islam is a unique culture of its own; not makkan preislamic, not madinan preislamic, not arab preislamic, not igbo preislamic, not yoruba preislamic, not hausa preislamic, not edo preislamic, not wollof preislamic. all people who want to practice true islam will have to throw away all that are bad from their own cultures, retain what is good (Islamic compartible) and adopt others to have a full flavored Islamic culture!
No its not. Osu caste system was not a uniform culture among both igbos and catholics. Since you want to align it to catholicism. Did Yoruba catholics practice osu?. Did European and south American catholics practice Osu?. Honour killings are seen among Asian, middle eastern and African muslim families even when these people do not have anything in common except their religion. |
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muhsin (m)
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Honor Killing is not Islamic.
Prove if its.
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Aloy~Emeka
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Honor Killing is not Islamic.
Prove if its. Abuzola already said he will decapitate and maim any relation of his' who commits adultery, fornication or apostasy. I know such behaviour is not hausa culture and he said because he received the authority from islam. What is it then?  |
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uplawal (f)
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go and read QUEST FOR TRUTH by SHIPA L.MUSTAPHA, how it was reported how people were killed all becos they dnt accept TRINITY DOCTRINE,a doctrine that was never in the system before
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