Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?

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naijacutee (f)
Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« on: December 18, 2006, 03:00 PM »

Hi everyone, I need everyones opinion on this no matter how crazy your opinion sounds.

Can we please have suggestions on how to reduce the armed burglary rates in Nigeria? What can the government/individuals do to if not eradicate armed robbery, at least significantly reduce the figures

- Do you think the rates would be lower if there were more jobs available targeted at young able-bodied men?
- Or that the government should ban imported guns rather than imported clothing?
- Or should the banks get ATM facilities to eliminate the need to carry around huge amounts of money?
- (And introduce payment by cards?)

Please lets feel free to critique the points above and share any additional ones we might have.
Jakumo (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #1 on: December 18, 2006, 06:44 PM »

Every able-bodied man in Switzerland undergoes a tour of duty that includes compulsory military training.  To the amazement of many resident in other countries, discharged Swiss soldiers are permitted to take their automatic assault rifles home as private property which can be legally used in self-defense.   Contrary to what one would expect for such a heavily armed nation, violent crime is a rarity in Switzerland, and home invasions almost unheard of.   

The Swiss model is an extreme but highly effective crime control measure which illustrates so well the tested truism that outlaws generally prefer to avoid hard targets that may retaliate with deadly force.  Nigeria need not try to emulate Switzerland's militaristic culture as a means of countering the rising crime wave, but a liberalization in the current laws on gun ownership and usage in Nigeria would empower home owners by making it easier to legally acquire and apply guns to protect their loved ones without the fear of state prosecution for actions taken in home self-defense.
naijacutee (f)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #2 on: December 20, 2006, 08:12 PM »

Quote from: Jakumo on December 18, 2006, 06:44 PM
Every able-bodied man in Switzerland undergoes a tour of duty that includes compulsory military training. To the amazement of many resident in other countries, discharged Swiss soldiers are permitted to take their automatic assault rifles home as private property which can be legally used in self-defense. Contrary to what one would expect for such a heavily armed nation, violent crime is a rarity in Switzerland, and home invasions almost unheard of.

The Swiss model is an extreme but highly effective crime control measure which illustrates so well the tested truism that outlaws generally prefer to avoid hard targets that may retaliate with deadly force. Nigeria need not try to emulate Switzerland's militaristic culture as a means of countering the rising crime wave, but a liberalization in the current laws on gun ownership and usage in Nigeria would empower home owners by making it easier to legally acquire and apply guns to protect their loved ones without the fear of state prosecution for actions taken in home self-defense.
That's very true, Jakumo but do not forget that Nigeria's crime problems and Switzerlands crime problems do not originate from the same source therefore the same method might not work for both countries. The high crime rate in Switzerland before this 'solution' might have been driven by the satisfaction in taking advantage of defenceless citizens. Our crime is driven by hunger. The few that can afford the guns use it to rob others. What do you think would happen when you privide 60 million young, hungry men with guns?
Jakumo (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #3 on: December 20, 2006, 08:46 PM »

'NaijaCutee,  Scores of hungry men already have guns which they use to commit armed robbery daily in Nigeria.  Those guys have absolutely no regard for the law, and will prey on the homes of law-abiding citizens in part because they are aware that even those who posses licensed guns at home are unlikely to use them in self-defense because of the existing Nigerian gun usage law which specifically states that a licensed gun may NOT be utilized for any other purpose than recreational hunting.

If the Nigerian gun ownership laws were modified such that proven cases of domestic self-defense with firearms would no longer attract prosecution as they do at present in the Nigerian firearm statutes, many of those cowards who live by the gun will think twice before invading that next home because they will know that the home owner has the law on his side if he shoots to kill in the defense of his house and family. 

Yes, the poverty that fuels violent crime must be addressed, BUT,  in the meantime in most cities across the nation right now,  home invasion robbery attacks are on the increase, and one measure that could stem this crime wave would be that green light to law-abiding Nigerian home-owners to protect their loved ones with deadly force if the police are unable or unwilling to respond to distress calls from those who suddenly find their homes under armed siege.
naijacutee (f)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #4 on: January 31, 2007, 09:03 PM »

Happy new year, Jakumo!!

So do you honestly think that a red-blooded Nigerian man would not hesitate to 'open fire' if he had a gun and his household was under threat? Regardless of what the Nigerian law says? Is it not the same Nigerian law that says anyone who imports pirated movies, sells or hires them would be fined =N=100,000?

Therefore are you suggesting that in the reasons for armed robbery : That armed robbery due to loopholes in the law outweighs armed robbery due to poverty?

 
Mamajama (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #5 on: January 31, 2007, 09:37 PM »

Poverty has nothing to do with robbery.  we all have choices we make in life. this are harden criminals that chose to

prey on innocent people.  on the other note.  we have government that does not take security serious.  look at the

situation in Lagos now since we have para military patrol robbery rate has declined.  we need  sophisticated equipments,

weapons to fight crimes,  a well equipped force will perform.  how can you pay a police man#9000 and you expect


them, to stop crimes? and when they are casualties of this actions, they are been neglected behind. their co workers

see this and refused to sacrifice their life to fight robbers.  The robbers are more equipped in Nigeria than the forces. 

you  can't stop bullet with flash light. sure more employment will help but a criminal will always be a criminal.
Seun (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #6 on: January 31, 2007, 09:43 PM »

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sure more employment will help but a criminal will always be a criminal.
Thank you o. Two men are unemployed, one goes into petty business and the other goes into armed robbery. Why?

The money being wasted on parastatals like NEPA should be spent on the police force if crime is to be managed.
Mamajama (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #7 on: January 31, 2007, 10:05 PM »

take for instance we have rapid response force here in the state.  when you call 199 all angles will be

blocked within minutes, but in Nigeria you call the police station they don't even have cars.  Not until

government take the issue of security serious we will always have problem in Nigeria.  As sad as this might

sound, not until one of the governors son or president children are killed by robbers before they fund the police to curtail robbery.
naijacutee (f)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #8 on: February 01, 2007, 12:37 AM »

Quote from: MAMAJAMA on January 31, 2007, 09:37 PM
Poverty has nothing to do with robbery. we all have choices we make in life. this are harden criminals that chose to

prey on innocent people. on the other note. we have government that does not take security serious. look at the

 situation in Lagos now since we have para military patrol robbery rate has declined. we need sophisticated equipments. . .

you can't stop bullet with flash light. sure more employment will help but a criminal will always be a criminal.
I do not believe that poverty does not contribute to the rate of armed robbery in Nigeria. Even here in the West, you will notice that there is a trend where the lower class communities are more exposed to crime. On their part because, they cannot afford to invest in high-tech gadgets to protect themselves, one the criminals part because the criminals are usually lazy, drug addicts and the lower class are the easy targets.

Now this is in the West where laws are enforced, jobless people are being paid by the government and  young able-bodied men usually get access to an allowance on turing 18. How much more a country where none of these exist? I am not trying to justify robbery, I'm just saying that we Africans are very morally conscious people and if people were given a choice, then it wouldn't be as bad as it is now.
Mamajama (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #9 on: February 01, 2007, 02:41 AM »

naijacutee (f)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #10 on: February 03, 2007, 12:20 PM »

Thanks for that link, MAMAJAMA. It shows us just how bad the situation is!

I'm still waiting for contributors Undecided  Let's do this together, people! Lets attempt to make history!!!
peteroby (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #11 on: June 11, 2007, 11:09 AM »

nice topic, the nigerian Police don;t have any crime privention training,and security is a personal thing.we don;t need to wait for our government to provide it all for us.
peteroby (m)
Re: Armed Robbery In Nigeria : Which Is The Way Forward?
« #12 on: June 11, 2007, 11:11 AM »

nice topic, the nigerian Police don;t have any crime privention training,the police lack the proper training,man power and funding to fight crime.and security is a personal thing.we don;t need to wait for our government to provide it all for us.if only the Government will allow other private hands to join.
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