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rells 2 (m)
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@princek12 Rells 2
Please tell me in any of my statements how I have condoned corruption or justified looting. You may not be condoning it but you are definitely encouraging it with your utterances. However that is not my point. My point is that OBJ should not be given credit for creating jobs in any way whatsoever. by doing so you are encouraging (mabye that's the word I should have used in the first instance) corruption because like I said before, others presently in positions of power will do the same thing he did and think they can go scotch free. I have said that that the only way to deter looters is to prosecute them.
On that I completely agree with you. But unfortunately, nobody can prosecute OBJ and all those who have looted and are still looting cos they are presently untouchable so like I said earlier on, the best we can do for now to put corruption in check by voicing out and disgracing the past government so the present powers that be would realise what can possibly become of them in the negative even if they walk freely because of the extent of their corruption. And people like you are not helping that cause because you have chosen the manage it mentality of "what u see is what u get na naija we dey". Hypothetically, if Obasanjo uses part of that $16b to build all the roads in Nigeria, I would still call him a criminal and a thief, that he should rot in jail, but I would not deny the benefits of those newly constructed roads to the country just because it was constructed with stolen funds.
If OBJ was to do that he would call it OBJ roads and put toll gates to be collecting fares from drivers passing these roads. And of course he would employ 6000 people or more to man the toll gates and collect the fares. And all profits and proceedings would go to OBJ holdings and people like you would still say OBJ you are a thief but thanks anyways. I just realised that the problem is not you, it is me that is answering you I am out of this thread. And by the way by virtue of your opinion in this particular matter, you are not a pragmatist your just in denial. Stop decieving urself. |
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Sagamite (m)
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I am still waiting for reliable indicators that OBJ stole £16bn (or whether na $ self) rather than continual moronic conjectures.
Anybody?
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bibiking1
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I am still waiting for reliable indicators that OBJ stole £16bn (or whether na $ self) rather than continual moronic conjectures.
Anybody?
are you serious??? |
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Sagamite (m)
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are you serious???
Very, very serious. Please be my honorary lecturer. |
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bibiking1
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Very, very serious.
Please be my honorary lecturer.
I dare not!!! |
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chidichris (m)
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sagamite,
what do u know about obj farms before 1999? what can u say about the farm as we speak?
how many federal contracts awarded under obj were executed and how many people are standing trials on that note?
abiola before his death was the leader of the yoruba criminal gang but obj has taking over the mantle of leadership.
if you are looking for evidence, look up to transcrop and obj farms. look up to all the public properties obj sold to himself.
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Beaf
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To think that I have been wrong all my life! My conclusion from this thread is: - A rapist can be a "good" rapist depending on how they do the raping
- A murderer can be a "good" murderer depending on how they commit the act
- A thief can be a "good" thief depending on their method (eg where they keep the loot)
Damn!==scratches head, weeps, strikes head against rock, visits the shrink at yaba left. . .== |
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the viper
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@princek12shit, to what do i owe these name callings? i addressed my post to bidemi and u took offence,was it as a result of your moronic and annoying defence of OBJs 6000 jobs? it will be improper for me to go down the same mad lane that u went just to score against you. bt it is obvious from that attack on my person that you havent realised that u've made a babbon of urself by defending what is obviously evil,you have become desprate and wants to divert our attentions from you leaking brain by attacking my person.i will let that slide for now,bt plz dont make it a very bad habit an dont cross that line EVER again. if you dont like my opinion and post on that issue, i will advise you to go home and have yourself a big dinner of latent poision and kiss this word goodby. so you believe that everybody must kiss obasanjos ass like you?
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Abagworo (m)
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lets leave politics and face the real issue.if i abagworo ends up a millionaire and employ 1000 people,is it wrong or right?
nb.i might have stolen the money without being caught.
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vanitty
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It is so easy for all the self-righteous peeps to sit in the comfort of their beautiful house and scream bloody murder but you cannot deny that 6000 people lives have just been bettered and in all honesty I can safely say I will rather have a thief that contribute back to his country economy rather than one that does no such thing because in reality as of this moment that is the only two options available.  |
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bibiking1
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rofl, ,,,,,,,,,,,,, lmao
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Princek12
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@princek12shit, to what do i owe these name callings? i addressed my post to bidemi and u took offence,was it as a result of your moronic and annoying defence of OBJs 6000 jobs? it will be improper for me to go down the same mad lane that u went just to score against you. bt it is obvious from that attack on my person that you havent realised that u've made a babbon of urself by defending what is obviously evil,you have become desprate and wants to divert our attentions from you leaking brain by attacking my person.i will let that slide for now,bt plz dont make it a very bad habit an dont cross that line EVER again. if you dont like my opinion and post on that issue, i will advise you to go home and have yourself a big dinner of latent poision and kiss this word goodby. so you believe that everybody must kiss obasanjos ass like you?
You addressed your post to Bidemi but referred to people who did not share your view as morons. You started the personal attack. Shut up if you cannot share your views without attack. In your words you provided that why is he teaching this "morons?" You started this by being disrespectful to people who don't share the same opinion as you. You are entitled to your opinions, but learn to state your views without getting personal. Because your brain cannot synthesize factual complexities does not mean that the conclusions that come from those facts wrong, it just means that your brain has reached the threshold in which it can no longer process, which is normal for some people. Holla. |
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naijaking1
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To think that I have been wrong all my life! My conclusion from this thread is: - A rapist can be a "good" rapist depending on how they do the raping
- A murderer can be a "good" murderer depending on how they commit the act
- A thief can be a "good" thief depending on their method (eg where they keep the loot)
Damn!==scratches head, weeps, strikes head against rock, visits the shrink at yaba left. . .== This whole issue is more about psychological maturity than about judging right ot wrong. Nobody advocates rape, murder, or stealing. However, given rape followed by murder; I'll chose rape. Given murder of everybody in my family, I would chose sparing the lives of innocent children and killing us all adults. We're talking about comparative analysis of already identified, universally agreed upon bad situation. How does one's method of dealing with and managing this unfortunate situation come to be interpreted as condoning evil? In trauma surgery, it's known as TRIAGE. You help people with the best chances of survival, and let the ones whose chances are bad die. It's hard to do, but it's all part of the training. The best situation could have been to save everybody, but it's never always possible, so what do you, sit there and cry until all the patients die? |
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Kobojunkie
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eeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkk
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chidichris (m)
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It is so easy for all the self-righteous peeps to sit in the comfort of their beautiful house and scream bloody murder but you cannot deny that 6000 people lives have just been bettered and in all honesty I can safely say I will rather have a thief that contribute back to his country economy rather than one that does no such thing because in reality as of this moment that is the only two options available. @vanitty, do u know how many people chris uba gave employment when he was using tauts in anambra state to destroy govt's properties? do you know how many people adedibu gave employment when he was using tauts to distrupt the activities in his state? do u know how many people armed robbers give employment from the proceeds of their robbries? under obj's govt, two communities one in bayelsa and the other in benue were erased and 6,000 are employed today. are there such words as PATROTIC CRIMINALS? do u pray to be emplyed by a criminal who killed your parents? obj is a murder, a destroyer and a criminal so add other tittles u know he has. |
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HQ
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So what is Bad about that?
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olafolarin (m)
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OBJ looted our treasury dry and used to procceeds to increase the size of his farm(ask Prof Adalemo of UNILAG),he bought more machineries to the farm and used govt fertilisers free.What can 6,000 workers do in todays economy.God purnish the bastard baba iyabo.Omo ale Abeokuta,
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the viper
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@princek12 am glad that u have told the world that you are a moron,if not i believe that you would have ignored that statement and moved on as it was nothing personal. bt you have chosen to do the right thing which is claim your rightful name and place. you turned what was a public discussion into a personal attack and you are the one that claimed that my brain has reached its zenith and cant process nothing no more. but in retrospect, am seeing a man whose brain tissues have consistently refused to jell and give the world something positive other than the craps that u have been posting. i told you that it will be unfair for you to be making a failed effort at redeeming your gaffs on this thread by attacking me personally. some pple are like that and we call them impotent. actually i thought that you were kissing OBJs shrunken ass,bt i just realised that your defence of the gorilla is based on the fact that you are one of his numerous illegitimate children. so i cant fault a man that is defending his dad. so keep the "good work" up and holla.
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dystaycool (m)
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Thanks to hin,he's doing a great job
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chidichris (m)
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is it not right for us to encourage yar adua to steal more than obj and employ more than 10,000 people so that we will come back here to praise him too.
6000 jobs my ass
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Abagworo (m)
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is it not right for us to encourage yar adua to steal more than obj and employ more than 10,000 people so that we will come back here to praise him too.
6000 jobs my ass
this topic should not be recycled.obasanjo tried in creating jobs.maybe he didnt perform as a president.we just need to separate the two. |
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back2back (f)
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is it not right for us to encourage yar adua to steal more than obj and employ more than 10,000 people so that we will come back here to praise him too.
6000 jobs my ass Gbam!! Gbosa!! Gbosa!!! And my people died for lack of knowlegde. Instead of people to demand return of our looted $16billion, talking about pack of nonsense |
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