Nigeria Build State Of The Art Railway System

Jaybaba
Is the country better or worse than it was before the elections of 1999

you've been saying this before and you still haven't answered my question; does Ghana really have constant electricity, did Ghana spend only $3billion
if i throw 10billion at the power problems in Nigeria, i don't think i will get 24 electricity tomorrow

Ghana is a lot different from Nigeria, have you considered the state of the infrastructure before the current administration?


Nobody is satisfied  with mediocrity and half measures but if your reasonable enough you will understand projects do not take a day to complete and if projects are not initiated for the fear of overspending and transparency we will never build any thing in that country



Are those people fresh of the boat?
Are they not nigerians havent they served in previous government?
what were their achievement during that time?

what is FDP and NCP by the way? this is the first time I'm coming across the name,
have they openly critised the current governement?
have they proposed solutions to the current situations in the country
Do they have a manifesto available for the public or  have one amongst themselves?

I started this thread soley to discuss the railway system and the benefit in THEORY
I don't think anyone is suggesting all is well in nigeria- I'm not! It's far from well

You didnt mention the the third group, the group that stood by the standlines with all the degrees and absolutely no POWER

The group that have studied all sort of governance in the world and know exactly what the country needs but has no power to implement it, they want the change so badly but they can't go outside of their comfort zones to get a result

If you climb midway up mount Everest with one of your footwear missing, theres absolutely no point in me standing at the bottom of the mountain, telling you or even the people around what you should have done! what i should be telling you is what to do now or finding a way to get the other footwear to you.

We can't go back to the drawing board, these politicians are there already.
these politicians are not aliens, they are nigerians afterall the only difference is that they have power!
He with the Gold makes the Golden rule

But the third party wants a change from the pitiful and sorry state and it will still be accussed of doing nothing to avoid the current state of the country

True words, but it is also logical that we look at the enormous benefits of what could emerge in the future from this project

_{Oops this one is from my phoney analogy books  , what i would like to know is a way out of my current dilemma, would you tell me to come back down to learn the techniques?}

in the case of Nigeria, we wont loose anything by learning as we go along, constant review of the constitution, better oppositon (there no point gathering in one party;the opposition should be as good as thr ruling party)
better enforcement of the laws we have already

Back in 1990s, the assumptions then were that mobile phone would forever be a luxury to normal citizens, our debt will spiral out of control, queues for fuel will grow longer and we would still be under military rule going by previous situations 

If the rail system becomes successful we shouldnt really worry about how other countries see it their systems, better late than never

As Nigerians, our favourite past time would probably be gisting about the number of problems we have
When are we going to start solving the problems? if we don't start solving our problems we will basically have more problems. When we resolve our problems as we go along, it will have an effect on other problems and we will inevitably have less problems to contend with.

We can always ammend sections of the constitution,
IF we sit down and scrap the whole process we really wont achieve anything
We can just sit back and not initialise any project just because we havent don't anything in some other sector
We have to modify our version of democracy as we go along

That rail can never be better than a molue on cmpletion!

If wishes were horses then all Nigerians will be riding. Wishes don't make things work dedicated leaders make things work.

@boladonas

Come home? I am home as we speak - I come home five times a year. I have a business at home, I have only been gone for four years. So I know what I am talking about. Nigeria is not the only country with political and economic problems, even America had it once, they never willed bad to the country because of that.

In other to move forward let us bring in positive issues to help.
 I personally think that the railway lines should have been privatised and let it run like GSM.
That is, we get the investors pay for licence to build and run the railway. Bring in different companies which will compete with one another and that is it simple. Govt set up a commision to watch over them simple. Project will be finished to specification, on time and to deadline, and will not affect Govt change, but to hope one chinese company (hopefully well funded) will deliver Nigeria from rail-travel problems will be unrealistic especially when the guys who gave them the contract is about to leave haba!. I believe they (Govt) know this anyway so no need to , 

Most projects like this gets scrapped when a new Govt comes in this is normal, especially in Nigeria. More crucial issues at the new time will have to be exercised.

@Alabi,   i am sure you are benefiting from this project so there is no need to argue with you.  Also if you believe in Nigerian infrastucture why don't you host your web page on .ng and not .com HA ha ha    ,

The good part is that we hope something useable will be acheived before this Govt expires so we can enjoy that little bit God help us,

@Alabi can you hooke me up i can help with providing railway slabs (steel and wood), Gis surveys, local labour, project management tools and maps e.t.c. Make me i chop too oh

@dblock
 so why are we paying them (the investors) and not them paying us, why did mtn pay us $245mill and not us pay them to set up GSM. We could easily have given Nitel or a chinese firm $10Bill to set up GSM.  You need to think carefully. Also there is no competition when you have awarded contracts instead of them bidding for your license, which can easily be taken back if they don't perform. A good way to measure and maintain performance. Incase you don't know you can make almost the same money as GSM, running a fully working railway network.

@alabi
Just another word for you, why are you claiming that you run a business, yes you do but do you know that you are a foreign investor. You should compare yourself to other foreign investors and not local guys that are trying to cope with all sorts of issues light,roads e.t.c
you setup your website in good economies and you come down to pretend to be making it in a difficult local nigerian climate welldone,

poske, At the moment I don't really think anyone will buy the railway as it is- it's basically not there; plus its bloody expensive to start from scratch  Its better the government do their bit to a certain level before they can think of getting investors. if it was privatisable  someone would have suggested it to the team. remember the Canadians also wanted to develop it so they (the govt) can privatize it

I don't see them as the investor they are contractors,the contract is for them to build and maintain they wont really be operating it, if they build and maintain it,

where's the video 

If development was measured by the number of flagged of projects in a country, then Nigeria will be the most developed nation in the world.

Warri girl go say "Na today!!!!!" 

Oops My Bad

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Railways gets new CEO
By Rasheed Bisiriyu
Published: Thursday, 25 Jan 2007
The Federal Government has appointed Mr. Jetson Nwankwo as acting Managing Director of the Nigerian Railway Corporation.

Nwankwo, who until the new appointment, was the Director of Operations at the corporation, replaces Alhaji Abdulrahman Abubakar, who has been redeployed to the Federal Ministry of Transportation.

It was learnt that Nwankwo was named as new chief executive at an emergency meeting of the NRC board held on Wednesday at the Ebute Meta, Lagos headquarters of the corporation.

Although Abubakar is on annual vacation, he has been directed to report to the Ministry in Abuja on February 1, for his new assignment.

The Chief Public Relations Officer, NRC, Ms Nneka Ubanwa, who confirmed the changes to our correspondent on Wednesday, could, however, not provide details on Abubakar’s new posting.

In a telephone interview with our correspondent on Wednesday, the erstwhile managing director also said that nothing was clear yet on what he would be doing at the ministry.

But a source said that he was being considered to head a proposed department of railways, which would take care of the various projects for the rehabilitation and modernisation of the nation’s railways.

Abubakar joined the Nigeria Railways in 1983 as a principal personnel officer and was managing director of the corporation for five years, according to Ubanwa.

An indication that the changes were imminent came last week when Abubakar handed over the mantle of leadership to Nwankwo before proceeding on his annual vacation.

The practice was for the most senior director to act when the substantive managing director was away. Nwankwo was, however, not the most senior director at the time of his appointment.

It was not the first time an officer next in rank to the chief executive officer of the corporation would not succeed an out-going managing director.

Another source said the changes were made in connection with the revitalisation of the railway system.

Ahead of its eventual privatisation, the Federal Government had indicated its willingness to reactivate the ailing rail system and make it attractive for local and foreign investors.

President Olusegun Obasanjo, had on November 28 2006, inaugurated the construction of a new rail line from Lagos to Kano on standard gauge. The double track project was awarded to the China Civil Engineering Construction Corporation at the cost of $8.3bn.

Government is also discussing with a South Korean firm the details of another rail line construction to link Port Harcourt with Maiduguri.

Source: http://www.punchontheweb.com/Articl.aspx?theartic=Art200701251463328

So what