|
suziie
|
am asking if other african coutry's classify somalians,ertriean,ethopians as BLACK people i ask this question beacuse most people i have talked to have said that they dont casify these 3 AFRICAN contries as BLACKS AND 1 of my good ghanian friend has said 'somalian people r duuty i dont like them there are not black there r asains'which i laughed hestracally and told her 'hold up somalia is in africa and yes these people are black  ' which she disagreed with me and said they aRE NOT BLACK THERE ARE ASIANS  . wat do u guys think??   |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
Abagworo (m)
|
going by the pix posted by you,they are 100% blacks.they look like fulanis and tuaregs in features.
heres a pix of mariam abacha
|
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
am asking if other african coutry's classify somalians,ertriean,ethopians as BLACK peoplei ask this question beacuse most people i have talked to have said that they dont casify these 3 AFRICAN contries as BLACKS AND 1 of my good ghanian friend has said 'somalian people r duuty i dont like them there are not black there r asains'which i laughed hestracally and told her 'hold up somalia is in africa and yes these people are black ' which she disagreed with me and said they aRE NOT BLACK THERE ARE ASIANS . wat do u guys think?? Most people are misinformed because they want to be! Horn Africans are considered black as far as the word is used as a "noun" and not an adjective. There are black people that exist outside of Africa. There are Black Asians, Black Aboriginals and Black Indian people but as far as categorization for horn Africans is concerned they group with sub saharan Black Africans. Therefore they are "black" as an adjective and African as a "noun" . So are West Africans too The Below three pics are black people but they are not Africans. YES! even the very last pics of the THREE boys. |
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
@ Suzie: These are Sub saharan Africans
Ethiopians
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
@Suzie tell your Ghana friend to go check this study out:
Modern DNA shows that Horn of Africa populations like Ethiopians are locally derived and are not due to any race mixes with Eurasians:
"Comparative genetic studies on geographically diverse populations provide evidence of high levels of diversity in continental Africa. Sarah Tishkoff and her colleagues (1986) find an intermediate pattern of genetic variation at the CD4 locus in northeastern (actually Horn) African populations. They explain this by local evolution and not by admixture with Eurasians. In essence they are describing a gradient of differentiation. The Horn, largely at the latitude of Nigeria, contains a subset of the diversity seen in other African regions. Tishkoff and her colleagues suggest that the Horn's inhabitant's are the local descendants of those who left Africa to populate the world."
", the Horn of Africa certainly contributed more recently to the Near East, because based on linguistic re- construction and the principles of "least moves" and "greatest diversity," it is the geographical home of the ancestor of Afro-Asiatic languages, spoken primarily in Africa with one member in the Near East (Semitic) (Ehret 1984, 1995; Ruhlen 1987). Early Afro-Asiatic spread out from the Horn and did not come into Africa from Asia (brought by "Caucasians") as was believed at one time, and as is occasionally assumed by non-linguists (e.g., Barbujani and Pilastro 1993; Cavalli-Sforza and Cavalli-Sforza 1995). In fact, there is evidence for movement out of Africa at the very time some claim in-migration (Bar-Josef 1987). By the time of the radiation of Afro-Asiatic speakers there was already genetic differentiation in Africa due to African biohistorical processes.
There is no need to postulate massive European settler colonization of Africa or genetic swamping and/or settler colonization by Eurasians, as is implied or stated in some contemporary genetic work (Cavalli-Sforza et al. 1994), echoing the now defunct Hamitic hypothesis. Continental African variation may be interpreted largely without external mass invasions. The antiquity of modern humans in Africa means that there has been time to accumulate a large amount of random genetic variation (Cavalli-Sforza et. al. 1983), which has been shaped by great ecological diversity in the continent (Hiernaux 1975). Genetic drift woild also contribute to variability due to fluctuations in population size as founder effects and population expansion events occurred throughout the continent. Therefore it is far more accurate to speak of a range of biohistorical African variants than different races of Africans. Northern Africans are more accurately conceptualized as primarily the products of differentiation than of hybridization."
(S.O.Y. Keita and R. Kittles. The Persistence of Racial Thinking and the Myth of Racial Divergence, S. O. Y. Keita, Rick A. Kittles, American Anthropologist, New Series, Vol. 99, No. 3 (Sep., 1997), pp. 534-544)
|
|
|
|
|
|
MandingoII (m)
|
Morpheus
How in the hell did black people get to Fiji?
fiji is southeast asia
|
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
Morpheus
How in the hell did black people get to Fiji?
fiji is southeast asia
Out Of Africa Theory. There are people refered to as Negritos who live outside of the African continent. please take a look at the pics of the black asians again and google Negritos and Andamans. These boys below are not genetically related to black Africans. They asians, so How do you explain their phenotype BRO. Do I always have to educamacate you Mandingo!! |
|
|
|
|
|
MandingoII (m)
|
Do I always have to educamacate you Mandingo!! I'm just trying to put you to work because I'm too busy (and lazy) to do the research. You should be grateful, I asked you to "go fetch" for me. |
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
I'm just trying to put you to work because I'm too busy (and lazy) to do the research.
You should be grateful, I asked you to "go fetch" for me.
A simple thank you would suffice! |
|
|
|
|
|
africhika (f)
|
omg she is beautiful
|
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
omg she is beautiful
Born and bred in AFRICA!! By the way where is Suziie who started this thread? |
|
|
|
|
|
suziie
|
Born and bred in AFRICA!!
By the way where is Suziie who started this thread?
omg she is beautiful ohhh yeaa she is i love her eyes yess am righhhht here would you classify him as a"black man"??. |
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
@ Suzzie.
It depends on where he is from. If he is from the continent of Africa and I am guessing a Horn African, Possibly a Sudanese type then yes. He can be refered to as a black man. but be aware that the connotation is being used as an "Adjective"and not a noun as it should be used for all Africans since black is merely skin tone and nothing else.
There are Africans who do not have black skin but are still African genetically.
|
|
|
|
|
|
Abagworo (m)
|
Out Of Africa Theory. There are people refered to as Negritos who live outside of the African continent. please take a look at the pics of the black asians again and google Negritos and Andamans. These boys below are not genetically related to black Africans. They asians, so How do you explain their phenotype BRO.
Do I always have to educamacate you Mandingo!!
i thought genotype and phenotype are corelated |
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
i thought genotype and phenotype are corelated
Not always the Gene that has been detected for skin pigmentation is under a cluster called M most people with darker shades of color carry this genotype so in that instance you can say geno is correlated to Phenotype, |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
@Kenyalady
Can you define what you mean by Caucasian? cause only one person in the pics you present will be clusterd with middle easterners
you must be leaning towards the term "Caucasoid." Which is an erratic term for face and body morphology.
Can you point to what "fact" that does not make them 100% African as you say . I reallly would like to know
|
|
|
|
|
|
morpheus24
|
I guess the pic of the below Ethiopians, Eriterian and Somali are caucasian as well huh?
I wonder why Halle berry or Barack Obama are not caucasians too seeing that They both ahve about 50% caucasian derived genes as compared to most Horn Africans.
|
|
|
|
|
|
KenyanLady (f)
|
@Kenyalady
Can you define what you mean by Caucasian? cause only one person in the pics you present will be clusterd with middle easterners
you must be leaning towards the term "Caucasoid." Which is an erratic term for face and body morphology.
Can you point to what "fact" that does not make them 100% African as you say . I reallly would like to know
Yes, I can, their facial features! First of all, Caucasian is not equal to white European, Horn Africans are Caucasians just like Southern Asian, Sri Lanks, Tamil, Indians, Bangladesh, etc and they are not White European, but they don't have the typical Africans features such as large noses, big lips, and hard kinky nappy hair! The real 100% Africans features         I can't tell the difference between Africans Caucasians and South Asians Caucasians South Asians Caucasians     Horn of African Caucasians                  |
|
|
|
|
|
KenyanLady (f)
|
I guess the pic of the below Ethiopians, Eriterian and Somali are caucasian as well huh?
I wonder why Halle berry or Barack Obama are not caucasians too seeing that They both ahve about 50% caucasian derived genes as compared to most Horn Africans.
No They ain`t caucasian, they are half Bantu and that`s why they have Africans facial features, by the way 40% of Horn Africans are mixed Bantus and Afro-Caucasian. all the pictures I posted don't have the typical Africans features! |
|
|
|
|
|
lovelylady (f)
|
I have never seen Ethiopians, Eritreans or Somolians as caucasians. They look black to me even if they do have mixed ancestry. My doctor is Eritrean and she refers herself as being black. She looks just like the little girl with braids in one of the other pictures posted but older. I'm having a hard time understanding that they are caucasian theory?? |
|
|
|
|
|
blackspade (m)
|
Cool thread. This woman looks like Janet Jackson:  I almost thought it was her. |
|
|
|
|
|
tpia.
|
^^how does that lady look like Janet Jackson ? i'm not seeing any resemblance |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
blackspade (m)
|
It's mostly in the eyes, and a little bit in the nose.  |
|
|
|
|
|
tpia.
|
didnt you say you're familiar with LA
|
|
|
|
|
|
tpia.
|
that giselle looks more west african than ethiopian
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
blackspade (m)
|
that giselle looks more west african than ethiopian Which one, Janet? She's black American, so most likely her DNA comes from West Africa. |
|
|
|
|
|
![Nairaland [Nigerian Forum] Home](http://www.nairaland.com/Themes/default/images/english/home.gif)
Author
544190074_80c3b42903.jpg (128.24 KB, 356x500 )
