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Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #128 on: December 26, 2006, 09:20 PM »

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@Sista

Nobody is looking to keep you down, you get what you deserve. That's my life experience sis.!

Please apply your idea that "you get what you deserve" to:

Africa
Europe
America

I want to understand your thinking here, when it is sent to it's logical conclusion.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #129 on: December 26, 2006, 09:24 PM »

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I guess C/A's deserved to be colonized and exploited because they didn't know shit any way. They deserved to be exploited out of their lands natural resources. I guess people in Africa with aids and those living in poverty deserve what they got as well. 

That is why those events are known as injustices.

Sista, Drusilla. . . Your parents did not work on plantations, they were allowed to work for pay and so are you. What are you complaining over? . . . How can you complain about racial injustice nowadats when we have blacks making it in different aspects of life?. . .How is your complain supposed to have any merit when there is evidence that blacks are indeed seeing a growth in income?
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #130 on: December 26, 2006, 09:27 PM »

Donzman,

It is out duty. It is an African American Cultural Value. We are not trying to leave behind one Black Person. Reach One Teach One. The Axe forgets, the Tree Remembers.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #131 on: December 26, 2006, 09:29 PM »

Oh. . . The axe does remember!
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #132 on: December 26, 2006, 09:29 PM »

Donzman,

Naturally, your attitude of believing that the poor and many Continental Africans right? "deserve what they get".

Is naturally an ABOMINATION to every African American.

So we are seeing the differences in cultural values right here. Remember in that article, the African said it was a class difference.
lakers
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #133 on: December 26, 2006, 09:34 PM »

All of you just quit fronting and be quiet.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #134 on: December 26, 2006, 09:37 PM »

LOL SMILE

2 pts
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #135 on: December 26, 2006, 09:40 PM »

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Naturally, your attitude of believing that the poor and many Continental Africans right? "deserve what they get".

If you work hard, you should reap the fruits of your labour in America atleast. In Africa, the poor macroeconomic structure implies that rewards to effort is not consistent. Different places, different situations, different consequences for actions.
lakers
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #136 on: December 26, 2006, 09:46 PM »

but fa real Drusilla why this argument with Sista , it aint worth it .
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #137 on: December 26, 2006, 09:50 PM »

Donzman,

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If you work hard, you should reap the fruits of your labour in America atleast. In Africa, the poor macroeconomic structure implies that rewards to effort is not consistent. Different places, different situations, different consequences for actions.

Please explain all of this to me. I want to understand why you give them forgiveness that you do not extend to African Americans. Thank you.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #138 on: December 26, 2006, 09:58 PM »

. . . Experience, I've experienced life in both places. Life in America is built for you to succeed when you give the effort, in Nigeria atleast, effort alone won't get you anywhere.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #139 on: December 26, 2006, 10:05 PM »

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Experience, I've experienced life in both places. Life in America is built for you to succeed when you give the effort, in Nigeria atleast, effort alone won't get you anywhere.

Please tell me of your experience in Nigeria. Why won't effort alone get you anywhere?
 
 
4 Play (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #140 on: December 26, 2006, 10:21 PM »

Have we as Black people suffered any more than what the Jewish people suffered for 2 millenia,yet look how succesful the Jews are.

They don't say-"we suffered a lot in the past so we shall just sit back and not take responsibility for our problems" 

Africans blame White people for most of our problems.In the continent they blame colonialism and neo colonialism,in the diaspora,they blame slavery and the legacy of racial discrimination
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #141 on: December 26, 2006, 10:54 PM »

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Have we as Black people suffered any more than what the Jewish people suffered for 2 millenia,yet look how succesful the Jews are.

They don't say-"we suffered a lot in the past so we shall just sit back and not take responsibility for our problems"

Rabbi Levitt, a Christian Jew, who just passed away. May he rest in peace.  Said this: The reason that Jews will definitely use their Nuclear Weapons if the surrounding nations attack them again, is this: Jews have lived in all the western countries. They understand that to give up that little track of land IS DEATH to them either way. So they will not go.

My point to you is this. The Jews lived among whites. Were slaughtered among whites. And understand that whites will just try to wipe them out again. More Jews now live in Israel than live in the Western World.

They got out from among these white countries. They know and face squarely what you get when you live in white places.

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Africans blame White people for most of our problems.In the continent they blame colonialism and neo colonialism,in the diaspora,they blame slavery and the legacy of racial discrimination

The solution to our problems lies squarely with us. Why can other groups have an attitude like that about living among whites, that their little strip of desert is worth everything but we don't have that idea about our own resource rich Continent.
superman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #142 on: December 26, 2006, 11:04 PM »

yes dru must say like your styl for real haha! u must be a strong lady

but emmh yea its not just AA that create opportunites for theirselves u know.

my people do as well! the ring tone thing u see on your mobile phone is created by one of them emh young nigerian man in london, there are other things as well, i guess the doctors in US and london created opportunities for themselves not to mention 419 i lie. even nigerians buzness men as well

so as u can see my people arent far from there or are they.

and your point is!

and just in case if u wana talk about south africa nigeria sacrifes a lot for that stupid country u know, they even pull out of african cup of nation because of them. now forget sanction now , even sanction in iraq cuoldnt stop sadam now next iran we see how good america is now? nigeria do a lot to that stupid country more than america

dnt u think dru
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #143 on: December 26, 2006, 11:25 PM »

Superman,

I think the skills of the Continental African in the area of business are unmatched.

What's missing is a central leadership.
A new form of money based on African Gold and Diamond Reserves.
An intraAfrican trade.

Not many people understand. Only 13 percent of the American economy is based on importing or exporting. 87 percent is based on what your neighbors around you need.

I think the smart African Businessmen are there. The resources are there. What is lacking it the idea that those Black people are OUR BASE/CLIENT/CUSTOMER/FAMILY.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #144 on: December 26, 2006, 11:27 PM »

Why did 269 Nigerians just have to die trying to get gas, when Nigeria is exporting gas by the billions?

Something is wrong with that picture of Nigerians not getting what they need, even though their selling everything but the kitchen sink to foreigners.
superman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #145 on: December 26, 2006, 11:38 PM »

u right babes i guess na my own horri cane karina! they got money for war but cnt feed the poor*2PAC*!

something not right

yes agreed with the top post! thats why it worries me see i see all the fake a$$ in here
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #146 on: December 27, 2006, 12:23 AM »

That's why it also worries me that the bums we call leaders are going to pay $5million for an NFL game when people are suffering. Leaders are out of touch in my homeland, this thing is a pity.
toshmann (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #147 on: December 27, 2006, 01:47 AM »

they say i'm crazy, i've said it b4, i'll say it again, blacks, as a race, may forever serve the world. already we are at the bottom of the world in the scheme of things.politically, economically and otherwise. the indians are ahead, the chinese are ahead. the arabs, the japs etc.

we are too busy attacking ourselves and trying to show who is greater or better. what the hell is the [color=#006600]SIGNIFICANT
difference btw AA and CA? with this kind of attitude we are inviting the white man to do what he does best-fuel a division /quarrell btw a people he wants to dominate.

keep on quarrelling. keep on fighting. but know this-the indians feel we have no value, the chinese feel we deserve pity, the arabs feel we are useless, the. .  . i can go on and on but the worst is that we also feel we are useless.

i wish u luck[/color]
Angry   Angry   Angry

look at some official data and know more about us- the highest level of HIV/AIDS-africa. the highest level of hiv/aids in the US-blacks, the poorest countries-mainly african countries, the poorest group in the US-blacks etc etc etc-i can continue. and how do other races see this--oh the blacks(wether AA or CA) We are one, have a common fundamental problem-being positioned at the disadvantaged side of global inequalities. brothers and sisters-think b4 U quarrell.

merry xmas
Sista (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #148 on: December 27, 2006, 02:20 AM »

@4play

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Have we as Black people suffered any more than what the Jewish people suffered for 2 millenia,yet look how succesful the Jews are.


I said this before and I am going to say it again and gain until some one gets it. You can not compare Japan or the Jews to descendants of African slaves. The Jews and the Japanese got reparations as soon as their slaughters ended, Black people got nothing. They gave the Native Americans Casino's as a form of reparations which they supposedly gave a tax break to but they took back the tax break. As a matter a fact, Jews are still getting checks to this day cut out to them as a result of reparations. I don't see the so called nice white people fighting for black people to have the equal right to reparations, you know why? Because they fear that most of those reparations will have to come out of their pockets sense they entirely benefited from the free labor and full exploitation of black people.


My mood has become very unsettled
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I find it very interesting how we sit and say AA people should not get reparations and that black people should work hard like work horses to achieve anything. On the other side, we commend the Jews who received reparations and we speak highly of them.  Undecided Black people are their own worst enemy   


Please, understand that you are not making a fair comparison when you compare descendants of African slaves to a people who received reparations for their troubles right from the very beginning, they received reparations.

Name one group of people who were not reperated for their troubles forced on to them by other people and they still managed to do all of the things AA people did?


Did you know that at one time Black people had their own black towns that they acquired on their own from hard work? No handouts. White people burned those towns and businesses down to the ground, they did not want black people doing all of those things showing their assess like that because to them, black people are not meant to out do them. Black people are supposed to be animals.

My mood is fed the hell up with all of this ignorants and hatred black people have for their self.  Angry

It is true, black people are their own worst enemy, black people don't even consider their selves as humans when they continue to say things like you deserve what "you get" or "look at the Jews, they did good after what happen to them." Ignorants and down right self hate, love and respect for others, not for self. Black people are their own worst enemy's and each day I am beginning to think that maybe we are stupid and deserve all of the things we get done to us by other people.

Pissed the hell off  Angry Shocked Cry

Phuck it, I give up! We are some stupid as backwards ass people. We can't do shit as a whole, we can only do things as an individual because we are to busy bringing each other down while lifting everyone else up.

4play and Donzman you win. Have fun and may God bless you in your individual endeavors because only the black people who think like you, your thoughts will count in the eye's of those who have the power, that being white people. You will help them to justify the ill treatment of black people because you will be their poster boy for what can happen to black peopel if they would only kiss white ass.

More than your own people, you seem to be very loyal to white people.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #149 on: December 27, 2006, 02:39 AM »

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More than your own people, you seem to be very loyal to white people.

That is categorically false and you have nothing to prove it. Why would I be more loyal to white people?
Sista (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #150 on: December 27, 2006, 02:45 AM »

At this time, I don't even feel like expressing that I even give a damn. My heart needs a rest from trying to escape the obvious failure in black people as a whole. Black people are pure dee useless and back wards as hell. I agree with white people, after all they have pretty much got us pegged, they know us as a whole better than we know the mas a whole. Other wise if they didn't, we wouldn't even have a topic like this. I have never seen a topic/thread where white people defend black people or show that they understand black people. If you have, show me cause I sure have been looking for those types of threads.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #151 on: December 27, 2006, 02:48 AM »

@Sista

You are backward, I'm not and I'm sorry you feel that way. Just wanted to correct that, now you can go on!
Sista (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #152 on: December 27, 2006, 03:38 AM »

@Donzman

You are an individual, that's right.

You have nothing to do with African people as a whole, thank you for confirming.

By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh?  You will be working for the rest of your life and they still won't distinguish you from the rest of the Nigerians or black people period. Go ahead, keep on trying to prove your self as an individual, have fun. Wink Before you know it, you will just like the rest of the sell outs, you will have forgotten where you came from. By that time, you will still be black and your own people, the people who matter will not respect you. White people will be cool with you but you will never be considered as equal to them. You will be lost.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #153 on: December 27, 2006, 03:43 AM »

Why do you get the impression I'm trying to distinguish myself from the rest of Nigerians?. . . Why am I on Nairaland if I'm not proud to be Nigerian?. . . I'm an individual but I still belong to a community and that community is what I rep. Just because I say that all white people are not bad, how does that imply that I'm not proud to be Nigerian? . . . What have I said that gives you the impression that I don't want to be Nigerian?

You're putting me on the defensive for no reason Sista, this is pure unadulterated spite. Not cool!
Sista (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #154 on: December 27, 2006, 03:58 AM »

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Why do you get the impression I'm trying to distinguish myself from the rest of Nigerians?

By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh? 

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Why am I on Nairaland if I'm not proud to be Nigerian?

By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh? 

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I'm an individual but I still belong to a community and that community is what I rep.


By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh? 

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Just because I say that all white people are not bad, how does that imply that I'm not proud to be Nigerian?
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By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh? 

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What have I said that gives you the impression that I don't want to be Nigerian?

By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh? 

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You're putting me on the defensive for no reason Sista, this is pure unadulterated spite. Not cool!

By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh? 



I am tired of hearing the same thing from you about nice white people. I am tired of hearing the same thing from you that you get what you deserve. I am tired of hearing the same thing from you that you are an individual Nigerian. What is the answer to the questions I asked you? Don't change the subject.  You say you are getting defensive for nothing? I don't think so, you are getting defensive for a reason. Here are the questions below I posed to you about your being an individual Nigerian.   


By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh?


What does your individualism do for Nigerians as a whole, let alone black people as a whole, or do you give a damn?









Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #155 on: December 27, 2006, 04:08 AM »

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By the way, did you see how they tried to make Nigerians look like animals just now on the news? Saying that they were stealing oil? They also talked about how a gallon of oil is worth two weeks of living in Nigeria. They showed Nigerians scooping up oil into buckets like savages and running, how does that affect you as an individual Nigerian?  Undecided

I guess your are going to have to work even harder to prove that you are not a savage like th rest of the Nigerians huh?

Ok. . . I always complain about how the Western media like to show the negatives concerning Africa. It affects me negatively as a Nigerian and I don't appreciate it but what can I do about it?. . . I get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage. If people look at you as like a criminal, the best thing you can do is to act legally in order to prove them wrong.

I don't have to work harder Sis., Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage.
Sista (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #156 on: December 27, 2006, 04:42 AM »

@Donzman

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Ok. . . I always complain about how the Western media like to show the negatives concerning Africa.

Does the Western Media portray AA people as positive?

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It affects me negatively as a Nigerian and I don't appreciate it but what can I do about it?


You can stop worrying about nice white people because they are not influencing the white media to do right by you and your people. Your struggle is not their struggle therefore your struggle is no concern to them accept for in the sake and purposes of pretentious and social conversation.

Them being nice white people is not benefitting your people, maybe you as a individual if you feel,  but not your people. Those nice white people you refer to get to get all of the goods at you and your peoples expense. Nice white people are nothing for you to be worried about looking out for. What you should be worried about is how your people are being portrayed and how you can contribute to stopping those lies. If white people don't want to help you with hat cause, they are no good to you and they only continue to benefit from you and your peoples strife, while they enjoy your token black company. 
 
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I get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage.

This contradicts your last statement. "I don't have to work harder Sis, Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage."

I was in fact right, you do go out of your way to prove that you are not an Akata or a savage. According to the media there are plenty of poor Akata's right their in Nigeria that white people go out of their way to make look like savages, you fall into that group an you know you do. Otherwise, you would not try to prove you are different from the rest of those people who share your blood line. Stop fooling your self. You are trying your best to distinguish your self from those black people white people make look like animals, you just confirmed that.

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If people look at you as like a criminal, the best thing you can do is to act legally in order to prove them wrong.

Prove my ass. No matter what you prove, they will be waiting if not setting you up to make you look the way they have condemned you to be. Can't you see? Take off the fogged up glasses and have a clear look. Why waste your life trying to prove to other people, prove to your self if you really believe you are as capable as you say.

Leave me the hell alone when I talk about white people, I know what I am talking about. What I say has nothing to do with hate, it has to do with the truth. Aren't you concerned about the truth being told, even the truth you are not aware of?

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I don't have to work harder Sis., Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage
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Tell that to the media and the billions of people they influence. Proving your self to be a human and not a savage is hard to do as an individual. The media will still be taping your people acting like animals. For every hundred Africans they film acting like animals, that is a lifetime of proof you will have to come up with to show you are different. By then you will be dead.

Those AA people who don't go out of their way to have high paying careers, those baby mama and baby daddy's you talk about, they already are aware of this, that they are damned if they do and damned if they don't so just be what your are going to be as long as no one is getting hurt. You can't prove anything with out the help of your people. Especially if the hundreds of Africans being taped are outnumbering the so called good and few individual Africans who are not being taped and shown in the media.

Now you should understand why some uneducated AA people are ashamed to claim their Africaness. If you didn't understand that, you wouldn't feel the need to work your hardest to prove that you are not in fact a savage. If you didn't understand, you wouldn't have felt helpless in being able to do anything about how Nigerians are portrayed in the media.
Donzman (m)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #157 on: December 27, 2006, 04:53 AM »

I honestly don't know what you're trying to get at. My point is simple, I don't have to try harder to prove to anyone I'm not a savage. I know myself, I know Nigerians, we're not savages. If I act like me, then it will be clear to anyone that I'm not a savage.

Those going to siphon fuel from leaking lines are making themselves look bad but again, that is what poverty brings. I'll be blaming the Nigerian leadership for something like this and not the media. The images the media get to show is what they capture. If you don't give them an opportunity to capture stuffs like that, they won't show it.
Drusilla (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #158 on: December 27, 2006, 04:59 AM »

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At this time, I don't even feel like expressing that I even give a damn. My heart needs a rest from trying to escape the obvious failure in black people as a whole. Black people are pure dee useless and back wards as hell. I agree with white people, after all they have pretty much got us pegged, they know us as a whole better than we know the mas a whole. Other wise if they didn't, we wouldn't even have a topic like this. I have never seen a topic/thread where white people defend black people or show that they understand black people. If you have, show me cause I sure have been looking for those types of threads.

Sista,

I'm confused. Were you quoting someone else? Being sarcastic? What is going on here? Girl you just have to take sabbaticals. That's what I do. Get some rest. Recenter yourself.
Sista (f)
Re: Akata African or Akata American
« #159 on: December 27, 2006, 05:07 AM »

Yes Drusilla, it was sarcasm  Angry
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