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Drusilla (f)
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Sista,
LOL SMILE. Girl you know I am slow. Please bare with me. Sorry. Smile. Thank God.
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanI get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage. My point is simple, I don't have to try harder to prove to anyone I'm not a savage. "I don't have to work harder Sis, Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage." All contradictions, you don't really know what to feel, don't worry I understand, to bad you don't understand. Those going to siphon fuel from leaking lines are making themselves look bad but again, that is what poverty brings. I'll be blaming the Nigerian leadership for something like this and not the media. The images the media get to show is what they capture. If you don't give them an opportunity to capture stuffs like that, they won't show it. You still manage to separate your self from the rest all though you claim you understand their problem is attributed to poverty. I would like to know how the Nigerian government was when it was white ran? Was black people in large amounts living in poverty to the point of being portrayed as savage? Don't get me mixed up either, I don't think those Nigerians are savages.
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Drusilla (f)
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@Donzman
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I get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage.
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My point is simple, I don't have to try harder to prove to anyone I'm not a savage.
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"I don't have to work harder Sis, Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage."
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All contradictions, you don't really know what to feel, don't worry I understand, to bad you don't understand Now that was a KNOCK OUT.   |
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4 Play (m)
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@Sista
U said earlier that Jewish people were succesful because of reparations,u seem to forget that they were quite succesful even before the Holocaust and it was partly due to their success that they were hated.
Armenians,Kurds and chechens are successful,but in thier case they have not received any reparations
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Donzman (m)
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@Sista. . . Where is the contradiction? I get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage.
My point is simple, I don't have to try harder to prove to anyone I'm not a savage.
I don't have to work harder Sis, Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage
Let me make it easier for you to understand. I try to act in way to show that I'm not a savage. Secondly, I don't have to do anything more than what I'm doing now to prove that I'm not a savage which leads to the final statement. I only have to act like a Nigerian man and it will be apparent that I'm not a savage since Nigerians are not savages. Take your head out of your ass, there is no contradiction there. I don't have to try harder does mean neat I don't have to try. Got it now?. . . Geez, I have to explain everything to you! I would like to know how the Nigerian government was when it was white ran? Not advocating for whites to come and rule Nigeria but people who were alive back then say it was nothing short of GREAT. Folks got compensation for hardwork and the nation was running smoothly. |
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Drusilla (f)
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Not advocating for whites to come and rule Nigeria but people who were alive back then say it was nothing short of GREAT. Folks got compensation for hardwork and the nation was running smoothly. So who was the big dummy, who spoke up and began a revolution against GREAT WHITE RULE? Why did those idiot Nigerians succeed? If the people really felt white rule was so great, who could have possibly supported some rebels against white rule? |
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4 Play (m)
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@Drusilla
How come AA did not come out and support Black candidates like Micheal Steele and Ken Blackwell?i know blacks don't vote for the GOP but it seemed to me they are shooting themselves in the foot.
Had they supported Steele,there would have been 2 Black senators,now we have only 1(Obama)
This stuff of not voting GOP is stupid,Jews only vote Democrat but if there are Jewish candidates on GOP tkt ,they vote for them-12 of the 100 US senators are Jewish,just 3 percent of Americans are Jewish whereas 12 percent of Americans are AA
NB:The man who defeated Steele-Ben Cardin- is Jewish,so AA helped elect the 12th Jewish senator at the expense of having a 2nd Black senator
How would a Jew better represent AA than a Black
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Donzman (m)
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So who was the big dummy, who spoke up and began a revolution against GREAT WHITE RULE? Why did those idiot Nigerians succeed? If the people really felt white rule was so great, who could have possibly supported some rebels against white rule?
D'ohh. . . There is pride in ruling yourself, that's why we had to fight for independence. There were no rebels in Nigeria miss, read up on some history. Things were great even after independence, it's when the khaki wearing retards decided they could govern that things went downhill. |
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Drusilla (f)
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4play, Jews only vote Democrat but if there are Jewish candidates on GOP tkt ,they vote for them- Your wrong about that. Keith Ellison a Black and a Muslim candidate was actually supported for in his election, (which he won) by JEWISH GROUPS. Against a Jewish Opponenet! |
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4 Play (m)
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@Drusilla
Is he a senator?
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Drusilla (f)
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D'ohh. . . There is pride in ruling yourself, that's why we had to fight for independence. Donzman, So in effect. Nigerian pride lost them their GREAT white rule. Hmmmm. Let me think about that. |
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Donzman (m)
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Donzman,
So in effect. Nigerian pride lost them their GREAT white rule. Hmmmm. Let me think about that.
You're drawing your own conclusions, I never said anything like that so don't relate that particular conclusion to me in the future, thank you. |
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Drusilla (f)
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4play,
Maybe, I don't know.
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4 Play (m)
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@Drusilla
He is in the House of Reps!
What about the Senate where there is only one Black senator and u gave up the chance of two to elect the 12th Jewish senator just because he is a Democrat
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Drusilla (f)
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4play,
And how we probably will not come out and support Barak Obama.
If you have a different view than the majority of African Americans. You are naturally considered a liar or an idiot.
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Sista (f)
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@4play@Sista
U said earlier that Jewish people were succesful because of reparations,u seem to forget that they were quite succesful even before the Holocaust and it was partly due to their success that they were hated Yes I know but still, the Holocaust, you can't compare the Jews to descendants of African slaves. The Jewish Holocaust lasted about 12 years or less Africans were enslaved for 300 hundred years. You can't compare a people who have been removed from their home, culture, religion, their names, their whole identity, for up to 300 years to a people who only suffered 12 years, and received reparations soon after their 12 year suffering. You still can't compare the two. I don't know how many years the Armenians,Kurds and Chechen's suffered but I know it is no where like or near how the descendants of African slaves suffered and how their ancestors who were enslaved for 300 years suffered.
If you are going to compare a group of people to the success of another group of people, those people you compare have to have had equal treatment. Other wise, the analysis of the two will not be fair or based on a true comparison. Your analysis is not fair at all and it shows in your lack of understanding towards AA people and all that they have achieved regardless to their suffering. I think AA people have done fairly well considering the total odds against them.
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Drusilla (f)
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Donzman,
You're drawing your own conclusions, I never said anything like that so don't relate that particular conclusion to me in the future, thank you. It just does not add up. Nigerians loved white rule and Nigerians got rid of that which they loved, white rule. Most people try to hold dearly to something they love. |
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanNot advocating for whites to come and rule Nigeria but people who were alive back then say it was nothing short of GREAT. Folks got compensation for hardwork and the nation was running smoothly. Hmm interesting. Tell me, did the whites who were running Nigeria pick who they wanted to run Nigerian when they left Nigeria, or did whites ever leave? Also, do whites to this day still show at and participate in Nigerian elections?
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Drusilla (f)
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Sista,
The whites at least show up after an election. If the elected leader is not the one they have chosen. Then they pay one of their Khaki wearing military generals to perform a coup and install the leader whites like.
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4 Play (m)
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@Sista
Jews did not just suffer for the duration of the Holocaust,they suffered for 2 thousand years and yet that did not break their spirit,they came out stronger.
Armenians,Kurds and Chechens went through a lot more than AA and also did for centuries,tens of thousands of Chechens were killed recently
Not to mention Coptic Christians in Egypt,they are extremely succesful,believe me it is better to be an AA in the US than a Coptic Christian in Egypt.
If u think that AA are were uniqely persecuted,u don't know much about the outside world.
In the UK were I live ,the Irish were enslaved as well and went through a lot more for a longer period,today they enjoy higher living standards than the English with higher levels of academic acheivements in the UK
There are endless cases of peoples who have been through a lot for centuries but I don't want to start going through them one by one
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@4play@Sista
Jews did not just suffer for the duration of the Holocaust,they suffered for 2 thousand years and yet that did not break their spirit,they came out stronger. Are you referring to the Jews in the bible? If you are, they are not the same Jews as the ones you see today. The Jews of today are converted Jews, not the real Jews. Just like Africans are not real Christians and Muslims, Africans were also converted. Those Jews of today are not the Jews in the bible, nor are they descendants of the real Jews. Not only are they not real Jews but the Jews of the Holocaust were mulatto's, that is why Hitler was killing them to purify the race. The so called pure Jews sacrificed the mulatto Jews in order to keep their pure selves alive. Still, mulatto Jew or not, they were all converted. Armenians,Kurds and Chechens went through a lot more than AA and also did for centuries,tens of thousands of Chechens were killed recently What about the thousands of descendants of African slaves who were hung to death, beaten to death or plain old murdered to death during and after slavery? What is it going to take? for AA people to get killed of like the Native Americans, the native Australians an the native Melanesians? Wake up? Black people don't get treated like those others who suffered. Black suffering is always three steps ahead of what anyone group of people have suffered accept for the Native Americans. Not to mention Coptic Christians in Egypt,they are extremely succesful,believe me it is better to be an AA in the US than a Coptic Christian in Egypt. How would you know? If u think that AA are were uniquely persecuted,u don't know much about the outside world. Blacks are next in line to be uniquely persecuted in comparison to the Native Americans, that is it and that is all. The fact that blacks are still alive shows their strength to persevere. In the UK were I live ,the Irish were enslaved as well and went through a lot more for a longer period,today they enjoy higher living standards than the English with higher levels of academic achievements in the UK Bullshit, you getting way out of line now, Irish didn't suffer no where near the way Africans did. I don't even want to continue with you if you are going to be this outrageous. It seems like you are only tying to show how much knowledge you have about the sufferings of others. This is not a time to compete on having knowledge of how all kinds of people have suffer.
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4 Play (m)
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@Sista
ok ,u have won ,AA have suffered the most in the history of the earth.
Nobody has gone through what AA have gone through not even the Jews
Irish suffer?What an outrage to even mention them.All those Irish slaves who worked in plantations in the carribeans and Australia do not deserve mention.
Nobody else but the AA have suffered
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Sista (f)
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@Donzman@Sista. . . Where is the contradiction? Your contradictions are below. Ok. . . I always complain about how the Western media like to show the negatives concerning Africa. It affects me negatively as a Nigerian and I don't appreciate it but what can I do about it? Clearly shows how helpless you feel I get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage. If people look at you as like a criminal, the best thing you can do is to act legally in order to prove them wrong. Clearly shows that your feelings of helplessness has caused you to feel as though you can only help your self by appearing as if you would not resort to the savage behavior the media projects about Nigerians. Might I add, who are you trying to prove that you are not like other Nigerians the media projects as savages? I don't have to work harder Sis., Donzman is Nigerian, Nigerians are not savages so Donzman is not a savage. If in your heart you think they are not savages, why would you say " I get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage."  Those going to siphon fuel from leaking lines are making themselves look bad but again, that is what poverty brings. Look bad or look savage? If one is hungry and all they can do is react in a way that will get them food, why to you is that acting bad? I'll be blaming the Nigerian leadership for something like this and not the media. However, earlier you said you don't like the negative way the western media portrays Nigeria.You seemed to be blaming the media then for the nagative portrayal. But you said "Those going to siphon fuel from leaking lines are making themselves look bad, but again that is what poverty brings" Do you hear your self? First You blame the people for making their self look bad by stealing the oil from the busted pumps, then you say you blame that on the bad government. How can hunger make you look bad? how can you blame a people for looking bad because of the bad government? This shows how ashamed you are of Nigeria, this shows why you feel you must go out of your way to not look like other Nigerians. This shows why you get on the case of AA people for not giving a damn about looking a certain way while you do all you can to appear like it is easy to be successful. Being successful to you means kissing ass. You have to get on the case of AA people to make you feel justified of your hidden shame. What you hide in the dark will eventually come out and what you have been trying to hide has come out in your contradicting words. The images the media get to show is what they capture. If you don't give them an opportunity to capture stuffs like that, they won't show it. Here we go again. If you don't show the media you are hungry, they won't capture you doing what you have to do to survive, acting like a savage in other words? Doznam by all means does not want to look hungry. That image of Africa makes him want to put down anyone who looks or acts any where near that real life and human image. That look is to shameful.Let me make it easier for you to understand. I try to act in way to show that I'm not a savage. Which way would that be, to not look and act like you are hungry? To not resort to stealing oil in order to feed your Family? I only have to act like a Nigerian man and it will be apparent that I'm not a savage since Nigerians are not savages. You got that right, Nigerians are not savages but do you really believe that?  Secondly, I don't have to do anything more than what I'm doing now to prove that I'm not a savage which leads to the final statement. Again, prove what and prove to whom? Yourself, your people or white people
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Sista (f)
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@4play@Sista
ok ,u have won ,AA have suffered the most in the history of the earth.
Nobody has gone through what AA have gone through not even the Jews
Irish suffer?What an outrage to even mention them.All those Irish slaves who worked in plantations in the carribeans and Australia do not deserve mention.
Nobody else but the AA have suffered If you see this as a case of who wins and not a case of trying to get an understanding, we have gotten no where. In the future, if it is not your intent to come to a resolution or at least gain a sincere understanding, don't bother to converse with me because as long as you feel this is about who wins by how one can out talk the other, we are both still losing and not getting anywhere. I really don't like to waste my time for the sake of running my mouth while you just try to throw out who has suffered and who has done better than AA people even though they have suffered. That gives me the impression that you are not sincere and all you wanted to do was win. Please, don't waste my time with your "need to win" negative ego. I don't like that.
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This started when I said that Blacks,in Africa and abroad,always blame others for their problems.
Your response was that given what AA had gone through they were entitled to apportion blame
All I am trying to show u is that not only AA have suffered ,but that a whole lot of other people have gone through even worse
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Sista (f)
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@4playAll I am trying to show u is that not only AA have suffered ,but that a whole lot of other people have gone through even worse You proved nothing accept for the fact that even all of those people who suffered, they didn't suffer hardly as much as AA people did and most of them received reparations where as black people did not. Your comparisons were not equal and therefore not a fair comparison.
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@DonzmanI get up and try to act in ways to show that I'm not a savage. How do white people identify acting savage? If people look at you as like a criminal, the best thing you can do is to act legally in order to prove them wrong. How can people look at you like you are a criminal if you have not done any crimes? I ask that because you say you get up and try as an individual not to appear like a savage. I am trying to get you to see, that the media is more powerful than one individual which means for the rest of your life, as long as the media portrays Nigerians as savages, for the rest of your life you will be trying to prove that you are not the same. Denying your people because they didn't get the chance to get out of the poor house like you have, will not redeem you of where you came from and the people who was there for you when you was just a poor little African. You are no different from those Nigerians who felt they had to steal oil to take care of their self as well as their families. You were just lucky enough to be able to get out and abroad to support yourself with out the thought of having to resort to what those Nigerians felt they had to resort to. If you were in their position, there is no telling what you would have done. What does it mean to you to not appear savage? Sista is not trying to pick on you. Believe it or not, I am just giving you a dose of tuff love.
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@Sista You need to take a Reading and Comprehension class, English is a simple language when you're not presumptuous. Keep an open mind and read what I said then you'll see clearly that there are no contradictions. I ask that because you say you get up and try as an individual not to appear like a savage. I see you're assuming that because I used the word "act", you assume that I'm not being myself. I will rephrase then, when I get up, I try being myself, a Nigerian man and Nigerians are not savages. Got it now?. . . Easier to comprehend? Denying your people because they didn't get the chance to get out of the poor house like you have, will not redeem you of where you came from and the people who was there for you when you was just a poor little African. You are no different from those Nigerians who felt they had to steal oil to take care of their self as well as their families. You were just lucky enough to be able to get out and abroad to support yourself with out the thought of having to resort to what those Nigerians felt they had to resort to. If you were in their position, there is no telling what you would have done.
Quit being daft, who did I deny? . . . You probably think I'm the son of Abacha or something, I'm just your everyday Nigerian Igbo man. |
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Sista (f)
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Donzman
I don't need to take an English class, been speaking English all of my life and I will tell you something else to. If you were in a court of law, and you said "I try to act a certain way" what you said would have been taken literally. The cross examining lawyer would have asked you what do you mean by act a certain way, or what do you mean by "I would try not to act or appear savage." If I would have asked you those questions from the beginning, I am pretty sure you would have screwed your self up even more. I will say it again, you don't really know what you feel.
I think you meant what you said, you try your best to not appear savage looking like the way the media portrays Nigerians and AA people. For the life of you, you would not want anyone to look at you and get the idea you are one of those kinds of people. In fact, you would deny even sharing a blood line with those people if that would help your case.
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I asked you to tell me what does acting savage mean, by any chance does it mean any of these things to you?
sav·age (săv'ĭj)
adj.
Not domesticated or cultivated; wild: savage beasts of the jungle.
Not civilized; barbaric: a people living in a savage state.
Ferocious; fierce: in a savage temper.
Vicious or merciless; brutal: a savage attack on a political rival. See synonyms at cruel.
Lacking polish or manners; rude.
n.
A person regarded as primitive or uncivilized.
A person regarded as brutal, fierce, or vicious.
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savage
adjective
Of or relating to wild animals: feral, wild. See wild/tame.
Not civilized: barbarian, barbaric, barbarous, primitive, rude, uncivilized, uncultivated, uncultured, wild. Archaic uncivil. See culture/nature, wild/tame.
Showing or suggesting a disposition to be violently destructive without scruple or restraint: barbarous, bestial, cruel, fell2, feral, ferocious, fierce, inhuman, truculent, vicious, wolfish. See kind/cruel.
So intense as to cause extreme suffering: cruel, ferocious, fierce, vicious. See help/harm/harmless, kind/cruel.
Check out the opposite of savage which white people refer to their self as being, opposite of savage.
Antonyms
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savage
adj
Definition: cruel, vicious
Antonyms: benign, civilized, gentle, kind, nice
adj
Definition: wild, untamed
Antonyms: calm, civilized, domesticated, tame
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savage
IN BRIEF: Wild, untamed; a wild, untamed person.
You see, White people felt African people needed taming when they colonized them and when they enslaved them.
WordNet
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Note: click on a word meaning below to see its connections and related words.
The noun savage has 2 meanings:
This must be where Nigerians had the nerve to conjure the title Akata for AA people. They really had to feel like they are better than the ones white people have taught them to hate. So they have this name for AA people that will distinguish them from AA people, as if a name calling will really mean anything.
Meaning #1: a member of an uncivilized people
Synonym: barbarian
Meaning #2: a cruelly rapacious person
Synonyms: beast, wolf, brute, wildcat
Don't you think it is interesting that white people go out of their way to show black people behaving savagely when it comes to their human right, to survive. Isn't it interesting that as a whole or even as a single person, we will rarely if ever see white people on television acting savagely because that is not what they believe about their self. However, they believe that about Black people and black people apparently believe that about their self because they go out of their way not to appear savage acting or savage looking.
Donzman, for the rest of your life you will be trying to prove to someone else instead of proving to your self. Are you truly a happy Nigerian Igbo man if you feel you have to spend the rest of your life proving something to a people that have already doomed you no matter what you succeeded in?
You never did answer my question either, Do white people have anything to do with the voting process that takes place in Nigeria?
Also, before white people so called gave up indirect rule, who was it that appointed the next one to be in charge? Was it white people?
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Donzman (m)
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You never did answer my question either, Do white people have anything to do with the voting process that takes place in Nigeria?
If you've been following now you should know that we have no elections in Nigeria, we have selections. Also, before white people so called gave up indirect rule, who was it that appointed the next one to be in charge? Was it white people? They had parliamentary elections and Alhaji Tafewa Balewa's party emerged winners so he was Prime Minister while Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was appointed the President. There were Nigerians already serving in Government long before independece! Donzman, for the rest of your life you will be trying to prove to someone else instead of proving to your self. Are you truly a happy Nigerian Igbo man if you feel you have to spend the rest of your life proving something to a people that have already doomed you no matter what you succeeded in?
Na curse?. . . I don't have to go out of my way to prove anything to anyone. I'll be myself, original Donzman and it will be obvious to every D!ck and Harry that I'm a Nigerian. You should ask those who know me, I don't try to act like something I'm not. What kind of character assasination is this?. . . You be Nairaland IBB? |
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