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Sista (f)
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If you've been following now you should know that we have no elections in Nigeria, we have selections. Election Selection same thing. Do white people have anything to do with the selection process? They had parliamentary elections and Alhaji Tafewa Balewa's party emerged winners so he was Prime Minister while Dr. Nnamdi Azikiwe was appointed the President. There were Nigerians already serving in Government long before independece! Who did the legislative from the parliamentary consist of, more blacks or more whites? who made up or chose whom would participate in the legislative? Na curse?. . . I don't have to go out of my way to prove anything to anyone. I'll be myself, original Donzman and it will be obvious to every D!ck and Harry that I'm a Nigerian. You should ask those who know me, I don't try to act like something I'm not. What kind of character assasination is this?. . . You be Nairaland IBB? If you don't feel like you have to prove anything, don't say things like "I get up and try to act in a way that shows I am not a savage" In effort to support your argument. If you know you are not a savage and you know your people are not a savage people and you really believe that, Don't go about tying to prove it and certainly don't say that Nigerians made their self look bad by doing what they did. Don't say that if they didn't give the media the opportunity to film them acting savage the media would not have not filmed them. When you say things like that you don't seem very proud of where you came from and who you are. If you were in the position those same Nigerians were in, you don't know what you might have done. That is why we should not judge each other. I can't assassinate anything that was put it self into question. Like I said, you are one of the so called lucky Nigerians who got a so called opportunity to leave Nigeria and go live abroad in an attempt to better yourself. Everyone does not want to get as lucky as you and every one who would like to be as lucky as you will not get that so called opportunity. Shit happens.
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Donzman (m)
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Who did the legislative from the parliamentary consist, more blacks or more whites? who made up or chose whom would participate in the legislative?
Politicians participated in parliament I suppose. It was mostly Nigerians I think but they had the queen as supreme ruler (this was like 20-15 years before independence). Election Selection same thing. Do white people have anything to do with the selection process?
How am I supposed to know?. . . I'm not a politician, nowadays its Nigerians that select who they want to rule. Whatever outside influences, Donzman does not know. Like I said, you are one of the so called lucky Nigerians who got a so called opportunity to leave Nigeria and go live abroad in an attempt to better yourself. Everyone does not want to get as lucky as you and every one who would like to be as lucky as you will not get that so called opportunity. Shit happens. There are other Nigerians living in Nigeria who are in better situations compared to me. Again, not every Nigerian wants to leave the country. Some people have things going for them there, that you do not get yet!
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanPoliticians participated in parliament I suppose. It was mostly Nigerians I think but they had the queen as supreme ruler (this was like 20-15 years before independence). You suppose? You think? I think you should find out a lot of things if you don't know about who is behind the selection process. White people didn't come to colonize Africans for all of those years just to turn around and give up their rulership. There are other Nigerians living in Nigeria who are in better situations compared to me. Again, not every Nigerian wants to leave the country. Some people have things going for them there, that you do not get yet! I am aware of that, that is why I made it a point to say that everyone does not want to get as lucky as you. Implication being, they found a way to make it by staying in Nigeria and not moving out abroad. Just like you say, if C/A's can come to America and do well, so can AA people do well in America. I feel that if that is the case, just like those Nigerians who stayed in Nigeria and did well, you could have done the same thing but you chose to leave Nigeria and that was your choice. Maybe you thought it would be easier to become a success if you left Nigeria 
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Donzman (m)
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You suppose? You think? I think you should find out a lot of things if you don't know about who is behind the selection process. White people didn't come to colonize Africans for all of those years just to turn around and give up their rulership. That was in response to the people who made up the parliament before independence. The election and selection is mostly Nigerian, Alhajis that took off their Khakis for Agbadas choose who they want to lead and who they don't. I don't think whites have much choice in it. . . If they did, we won't have Muslims being the top contenders for the presidency in '07. By the way, I didn't leave Nigeria. I carry a Nigerian passport and that is the only passport I own. I'm here for school, I don't have any wealth to lean on and I'm not a good singer/dance/footballer. My best bet is to use my brains to succeed, that is where my talent is. I plan on going back to Nigeria A.S.A.P.
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superman (m)
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just like sista said how come until now well 2007 white people still rubbish africa in their media! i mean like sista said the pictures u see on CNN.
like charity i see black boy naked with flies all over his body but when u see the eastern european they are dressed up! damn huh
now to donsman where are those nice white people of yours, i mean for how long will it takes the nice white people to start speakin up!
now my conviction some people just dnt understand oyibo
solution- white or no white its hihg time we as blk start using our head god gave us ! period!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! fowl fowl fowwlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll! nonesense!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 blood! ha 1 love
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Sista (f)
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@ DonzmanThat was in response to the people who made up the parliament before independence. The election and selection is mostly Nigerian, Alhajis that took off their Khakis for Agbadas choose who they want to lead and who they don't. I don't think whites have much choice in it. . . If they did, we won't have Muslims being the top contenders for the presidency in '07. You would have Muslims being the top contenders if you wish to make the already quarreling amongst Nigerians even worst. It is called keeping up the divide and conquer rule. Like I said, you need to study and find out as much as you can about Nigerian government before and after colonialism, you will be surprised about your nice white folk. By the way, I didn't leave Nigeria. I carry a Nigerian passport and that is the only passport I own. I'm here for school, I don't have any wealth to lean on and I'm not a good singer/dance/footballer. My best bet is to use my brains to succeed, that is where my talent is. I plan on going back to Nigeria A.S.A.P. You have to use your brains to sing, dance and football baby, you really need to stop with the light weight negative judgments. Also, the education already present in Nigeria should have been enough. I don't see who foreign land education is what is considered the best for a place that is predominately black and allegedly ran by blacks. I don't get it at all. I see back door action, white back door action. You call it all in my head all you want to but Sista know what white folks are capable of. C/A's were colonized by white people AA people were not only colonized they were also enslaved. Implication being AA people know and are pretty much very familiar with all of the evil, sneaky, and subtle acts of white people. @SupermanThat's right Superman, 1 blood one love 
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Donzman (m)
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@Sista. . . Yeah there were good schools in Nigeria if I was lucky enough to grow up in the 60's, 70's, 80's or even early 90's. No sane person will argue that Nigerian universities are better than Western schools. You have to use your brains to sing, dance and football baby, you really need to stop with the light weight negative judgments. Stop kidding yourself, you know what I mean by brains and you don't have to be moderately intelligent to do any of those. Don't even try arguing, PLEASE! You would have Muslims being the top contenders if you wish to make the already quarreling amongst Nigerians even worst. It is called keeping up the divide and conquer rule. Like I said, you need to study and find out as much as you can about Nigerian government before and after colonialism, you will be surprised about your nice white folk.
That's false. Choosing a muslim does not make any tribal sentiments worse, it actually appeases both sides. Obasanjo is a Southerner and it is only in the name of "fairness" that his successor should be a Northerner. I honestly don't know any Southerner who is legitimately upset that they're probably not going to be president. So the zoning thing actually defeats your reasoning Sista, it helps keep the peace.
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Sista (f)
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@Donzman@Sista. . .
Yeah there were good schools in Nigeria if I was lucky enough to grow up in the 60's, 70's, 80's or even early 90's. No sane person will argue that Nigerian universities are better than Western schools. hmmm, one can only imagine what took place that changed the educational system in Nigeria  Stop kidding yourself, you know what I mean by brains and you don't have to be moderately intelligent to do any of those. Don't even try arguing, PLEASE So you think those types of talents are lucky talents eh? Musicians happen to be very intelligent and good in mathematics. One has to acquire a good instinct to play ball and that instinct is a great amount of practice and will power, the will power comes from a deep concentration which requires discipline. That's false. Choosing a muslim does not make any tribal sentiments worse, it actually appeases both sides. hmmm, and I was only going by what you said about religious tension amongst Nigerians being the contributer to the quarelling that takes place amongst Nigerians. I guess you were again just running your mouth.
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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To Donzman, @Sista. . . You have to use your brains to sing, dance and football baby, you really need to stop with the light weight negative judgments.
Stop kidding yourself, you know what I mean by brains and you don't have to be moderately intelligent to do any of those. Don't even try arguing, PLEASE! Donzman allow me to tell you that you are very wrong here, to be able to sing and dance, you have to be intelligent to that because you are mostly creating things that does not exist [ie you are creating things from nothing], somebody could study economics or law, to me that person can not automatically qualify as an intelligent person, he only has good memory to sturdy those things and remember them [he could only be inteligent in the way he applies the principles he learned], but an intelligent person is the person that created all those principles you have to learn in those curses or the guys that wrote all the text books you have to learn to graduate in those curses, so respect creativity when you see them, cause is the creative people that did all the things that matters on this planet, any course you could do, without the creative minds believe me it wont be in existence, the only difference is that some people has a very unusual level of creativity.
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Donzman (m)
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Blah blah blah. . . You guys can keep picking and arguing but any half-assed individual will know what I mean by intelligence in an educational setting. Let's see the best musician on the planet do some high-order differentiations, you know some Chike Obi level of mathematics (  ) for those who know. Sports, Music and etcetera I like to think of as habits and things you learn over time. You don't become Chike Obi by learning and you don't become Soyinka by locking yourself up in a room. End of story! hmmm, and I was only going by what you said about religious tension amongst Nigerians being the contributer to the quarelling that takes place amongst Nigerians. I guess you were again just running your mouth. There are religious tensions in Nigeria. The current president is a christian from the South, it is only "fair" to choose a muslim from the North. Do you get it now? 
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Blah blah blah. . . You guys can keep picking and arguing but any half-assed individual will know what I mean by intelligence in an educational setting. Let's see the best musician on the planet do some high-order differentiations, you know some Chike Obi level of mathematics (  ) for those who know. Sports, Music and etcetera I like to think of as habits and things you learn over time. You don't become Chike Obi by learning and you don't become Soyinka by locking yourself up in a room. End of story! These are people that were able to apply the principles they learned in a very creative manner, what about people like Pythagoras or newton that created this principles, if you say that somebody that bought a car ''gbuluozu'' what about the person that made a car, I would prefere to aspire towards the level of the person that made a car, and that is what we lack as a bunch of people.
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Donzman (m)
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Yeah 925, you're right but the folks at the top of the class are often those who do the invention. Don't even bring in Gates here, he went to Harvard before dropping out.
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Yeah 925, you're right but the folks at the top of the class are often those who do the invention. Don't even bring in Gates here, he went to Harvard before dropping out.
Yeah we equally have people who are supposedly at the top of the class like you said, but they are all up to nothing, am not against people studying, like you can see if I didn't study I wont be talking to you, if you are not inventive no matter how you study you won't be.
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanThere are religious tensions in Nigeria. The current president is a christian from the South, it is only "fair" to choose a muslim from the North. Do you get it now? Whatever Donzman. You acted like it was religious tension going on amongst Nigerians, you just run your mouth, you don't really know what you are talking about. I don't care if you were born and bred in Nigeria, you don't know shit. If religious tension exist, people wouldn't want the religion that is not their religion to be in charge of them, they would not care about being fair. If they cared about being fair, the religions tension you lied about would not exist. what about people like Pythagoras There wouldn't be a Pythagoras if it was not for Imhotep.
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Donzman (m)
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Whatever Donzman. You acted like it was religious tension going on amongst Nigerians, you just run your mouth, you don't really know what you are talking about. I don't care if you were born and bred in Nigeria, you don't know shit. If religious tension exist, people wouldn't want the religion that is not their religion to be in charge of them, they would not care about being fair. If they cared about being fair, the religions tension you lied about would not exist.
Where do you get such ideas from?. . .Insticts compel us to compete but ethics and fairness compel us to compete in a way such that we'll live to compete another day. A word is enough for the wise, your whole statement is rubbish.
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanInsticts compel us to compete but ethics and fairness compel us to compete in a way such that we'll live to compete another day. A word is enough for the wise, your whole statement is rubbish. Tell that to your fair and corrupt Nigerian government.
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Donzman (m)
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They know that already, that's why they rotate power and share the loot. 
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Sista (f)
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Donzman you are a joke, nothing you say has informational value linked to it. You think everything is funny, particularly when you begin to get backed up into the wall. You always resort to making everything a laughing matter when you are proved to be wrong.
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Donzman (m)
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Donzman you are a joke, nothing you say has informational value linked to it. You think everything is funny, particularly when you begin to get backed up into the wall. You always resort to making everything a laughing matter when you are proved to be wrong.
You think I'm joking but I'm not. The people in power recognize the need to rotate power and they are doing just that. I don't why you think that's a joke, it's the way things are.
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superman (m)
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9 2 5 These are people that were able to apply the principles they learned in a very creative manner, what about people like Pythagoras or newton that created this principles, if you say that somebody that bought a car ''gbuluozu'' what about the person that made a car, I would prefere to aspire towards the level of the person that made a car, and that is what we lack as a bunch of people. yes more like it. sooooooooooooooooooooldier mentality! never worri , like that, hahhahha and trust me this is where i think for all those fake a$$ nigerians that shout on top of their voice president obasanjo this and that , hey trust me this is where u beat them hands down! and as u can see u can make a change dnt u think! so holla if u hear me!!! Quote from: Donzman on Yesterday at 01:56:56 AM Blah blah blah. . . You guys can keep picking and arguing but any half-assed individual will know what I mean by intelligence in an educational setting. Let's see the best musician on the planet do some high-order differentiations, you know some Chike Obi level of mathematics ( ) for those who know. Sports, Music and etcetera I like to think of as habits and things you learn over time. You don't become Chike Obi by learning and you don't become Soyinka by locking yourself up in a room. End of story! oh i cry for my black people! hey for how long will nigeria continuin cryin  sista Whatever Donzman. You acted like it was religious tension going on amongst Nigerians, you just run your mouth, you don't really know what you are talking about. I don't care if you were born and bred in Nigeria, you don't know shit. If religious tension exist, people wouldn't want the religion that is not their religion to be in charge of them, they would not care about being fair. If they cared about being fair, the religions tension you lied about would not exist. hahhahahahaha oh welll in god s superman trust amen! never worri 1 blood!
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Sista (f)
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@DonzmanYou think I'm joking but I'm not. The people in power recognize the need to rotate power and they are doing just that. I don't why you think that's a joke, it's the way things are. Either you are not as intelligent as you think, or you just run your mouth. That is why you continue to contradict your self and either take back earlier statements to make your present points -or you just pretend as though you don't notice your flaws and over sights.
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Donzman (m)
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@Donzman
Either you are not as intelligent as you think, or you just run your mouth. That is why you continue to contradict your self and either take back earlier statements to make you present points or you just pretend as though you don't notice your flaws and over sights.
You can help me out if you tell me the statements which I took back exactly.
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Sista (f)
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You can help me out if you tell me the statements which I took back exactly. We have been through this many times before, it would be a waste of time for me to try and show you anything because you twist things and take back things you said. You know as well as I know that the thread keeps on moving and you count on the thread moving to save you from present embarrassment. I won't be going to retrieve anything, all you have to do is read the discussion between you and I that has taken place on the last two pages of this topic and if you don't see where you have contradicted yourself, I will understand.
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Donzman (m)
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Donzman does not think there's been any contradictions from Donzman in this thread, sorry to announce that!
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Sista (f)
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What ever.
I am done with thinking it is possible to take you seriously.
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Donzman (m)
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I'm actually serious 99% of the time when I'm in the political section of Nairaland. You just said I contradicted myself in this thread and I honestly do not see it. If the contradiction was obvious you could have pointed it out without much ado.
All I've said is that there are religious tensions in Nigeria and the leaders choose to switch leadership in a manner that will curb the tensions. For some reason, you view that as contradictory, Ok I suppose!
@Drusiliar
I said that the British rule was GREAT for Nigeria and Drusilla goes of tangent saying we LOVED it. Just because it was GREAT does not mean we will love it and prefer it over indigenous leadership which we all thought was going to be great at that time. As great as the British rule was, we felt indigenous leadership would have been even greater. Just trying to clarify that for Drusilla so she doesn't go around drawing false conclusions.
I have somewhere to be, I'll get back to this later.
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JustGood (m)
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Akata is Akata. African is African. why would you want to eat your cake and have it?
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9ja4eva (m)
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Akata American.
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Drusilla (f)
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@Drusiliar
I said that the British rule was GREAT for Nigeria and Drusilla goes of tangent saying we LOVED it. Just because it was GREAT does not mean we will love it and prefer it over indigenous leadership which we all thought was going to be great at that time. As great as the British rule was, we felt indigenous leadership would have been even greater. Just trying to clarify that for Drusilla so she doesn't go around drawing false conclusions.
I have somewhere to be, I'll get back to this later. Donzman, So in 1851 the British entered Nigeria to stop the slavery going on in there. And this rule to 1960 was just great for Nigeria? Have you looked at what the British left in Nigeria after 109 years?
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9ja4eva (m)
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y do dey call dem African Americans sef?
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Drusilla (f)
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9ja4eva,
African Americans call themselves African American because "African" is the race i.e. Black and American is our ethnic identity. Black and African are interchangeable words for African Americans.
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oyinboaja
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They are BLACK Americans, not Africans.
Black and African are NOT interchangeable!!!
They are Akata Americans!!!
na wa oh
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