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Sista (f)
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@4playBy the way why are we here discussing whether AA are better than CA which is logically unsustainable since they are in essence the same people living in different locations. Imagine if a White started a thread in an American forum about how rich and powerful white people are In your two above quotes, you contradict your self. Why would I imagine a thread where white people started on Rich white Americans? I'm not white so they are not a part of me. However, I would dispute that they got rich on their own because of the obvious on how they got rich? You say in your first quote that AA's are the same as C/A's, at least that is what you implied. So if an AA is talking about the achievements of AA's, in your mind you should already see AA achievements as an extension of your achievements as well. You should not be seeing what AA's accomplished as an insult to the intelligence of C/A's. That is unless you really don't see AA's as being the same as C/A's. Which makes me wonder why you brought up Oprah Winfrey being the only billionaire AA's accomplished. The implication being, if C/A's would have been here in America, having what AA's have, they would have done far better than AA's when, you on the other hand state that C/A's are the same as AA's. Question? In your mind, do you really feel that AA's are indeed Africans? Also, when I think of what ancient C/Africans achieved, I see those achievements as belonging to me as well. The Ashanti, the Zulus, the Egyptians, the Benin and so forth, they are all apart of me. So if a C/A is talking about those accomplishments, I see those accomplishments as my accomplishments as well. However, it is rare that you see C/A's speaking of the ancient achievements because they are to busy stuck on this western world stuff. AA's accept the accomplishments of Africa an Africans as their own as their own, a part of them. Not just what AA's;s accomplished here in the states but African people as a whole. You should try doing that, then maybe you would not see AA's accomplishments as an attack on C/A's achievements, we are all the same. Not one African is better than the another African.
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4 Play (m)
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Drusilla started a thread on how AA are the richest and most powerful Africans to which I responded that actually they are not doing so well.
I don't think CA will do any better as i point out what is the difference between AA and CA .
My post is to lament how Africans wether in the West or in Africa are not doing well not to compare and contrast who is better.I did detect in drusilla's post though a sense of tribalism as she pointed out in one of her post African men are rapists
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Sista (f)
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@4playDrusilla started a thread on how AA are the richest and most powerful Africans to which I responded that actually they are not doing so well. What does that thread have to do with this thread? You are holding on to issues from another thread and bringing it to this one. everyone does not know the topic you refer to. Just like earlier you asked me about Drusilla saying C/A rape their women, I didn't even know what the hell you were talking about. Please, keep the issues of other topics over in the topics they belong to otherwise you will be throwing people off to the subject matter of this topic. I don't think CA will do any better as i point out what is the difference between AA and CA . Agreed.  My post is to lament how Africans wether in the West or in Africa are not doing well not to compare and contrast who is better. Well if C/A's want to talk about how AA's have failed at the production and rate of billionaires, They are asking for it. If a C/A wants to down grade AA family values, they are asking for it. I mean the Tit for tat game is always a better suggestion to backing down especially in proud black peoples view it is. I did detect in drusilla's post though a sense of tribalism as she pointed out in one of her post African men are rapists It seems like you want to stay on this rape issue, please tell me where you saw this so we can clear this up because it really seems to be bothering you.
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4 Play (m)
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@Sista
Why are u so bothered that i mentioned that AA are not doing so well.I am an African, so naturally I am worried that my cousins are spending more time in jail and have the worst academic performance in the whole of the US.
What I said about AA producing only one billionaire is in response to Drusilla saying that u are the richest and most powerful Africans-I actually took that off an AA internet forum where they were making the same point.What is wrong in pointing out that out of 341 billionaires in the US,only one-Oprah-is AA.
1 out of 341 is telling in such a vibrant and oportunity filled nation like the US
Instead of blaming CA for asking about problems of crime and low acheivement u should see it as a constructive critiscm.It is not like Nigerians are not self critical,u are probably not going to get a more self critical bunch than Africans in generral and Nigerians in particular-Lord knows we have a lot to be critical about.
I have been accused in this forum of disliking CA before now I am accused of disliking AA .Neither is the truth,all i am saying is that there is no point in any African wherever located gloating about anything because there is nothing to gloat about.
NB:If u want to see drusilla's comments about Africans being rapists,check out post 237 on Re:Akata?
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Drusilla (f)
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4play, Drusilla started a thread on how AA are the richest and most powerful Africans to which I responded that actually they are not doing so well. This one will be easy. Post a link to a thread I started about how rich and powerful African Americans are. It's Christmas, why do I have to wake up to swift boating? Try telling the truth. You jumped into something you did not understand and began whining. Hi, My name is Drusilla. Maybe we should start again, since you claim to be different than the sniveling instigating hater with sugar in his blood Donzman. I'm willing, how about you? Disconnect from the idiot I been arguing with for weeks and let us become friends.
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4 Play (m)
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@Drusilla Friends then  I know what got u mad.You have been receiving insults from nigerians calling AA "Akata",so u thought u could get back at them by telling them AA is actually doing quite well. It is an unfortunate part of Nigerian culture that we refer to any person who does not belong to our groups in a derogatory way Personally I think calling someone Akata is an outrage on the same level as saying Nigerians are rapists. It is all symptomatic of how we as Black people are tribalistic against each other NB:Donzman is no idiot.
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Hero (m)
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Donzman, certainly is an idiot. You're aight though.
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Drusilla (f)
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4play, It is an unfortunate part of Nigerian culture that we refer to any person who does not belong to our groups in a derogatory way That's really interesting to hear. African Americans have what we call "playing the dozens". Kinda a name calling game. You 'cap' on one another (insult one another) and then one insult is too good and someone loses. Everybody laughs at the loser. When Nigerians insult us, we think you want to play the game. I do at least. I am Ghetto.
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Donzman (m)
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Maybe we should start again, since you claim to be different than the sniveling instigating hater with sugar in his blood Donzman. So now I'm a sniveling hater?  Hating what if I may ask? Merry X-mas to All!
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Drusilla (f)
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Donzman,
Start with your hatred of mixed blacks in America.
Like me.
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Donzman (m)
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I don't hate mixed race people man, I have a grandaunt who is mixed. I just don't think they should be referred as blacks, sorry! 
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Drusilla (f)
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Donzman,
That was the nice thing you said about the mixed race. Half the times on at least 2 occasions you have talked about Black parents dumping their mixed race kids.
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Donzman (m)
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Haha, There goes your Drusilliar side again, I never said black parents should dump their mixed kids, come on now!
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Drusilla (f)
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Everybody saw what you said to me, people begged you to stop being cruel to me about being mixed race. Called you asshole's.
But I am going to have a Merry Christmas and not spend a minute chasing down what is obvious to everybody, your hatred of the mixed race.
Have a good day, son.
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Donzman (m)
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Ok girl, I'm sorry if I've come across as hating mixed race people but I really don't. I only go at you for being mixed when you preach this your white hate stuff, sorry either ways. Jesus brought us peace, today shall be a peaceful day, I hope! 
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Drusilla (f)
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I'm wit it.
Have a good day, in Jesus name.
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4 Play (m)
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@DRUSILLA Amen to that
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Sista (f)
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@4play@Sista
Why are u so bothered that I mentioned that AA are not doing so well. I am an African, so naturally I am worried that my cousins are spending more time in jail and have the worst academic performance in the whole of the US. What impression did I give that made you think I was upset with AA's not doing so well? Just because I responded to your remark by saying, "with Africa having so many rich resources, I can't see why they have to leave Africa to make a good life for their self" does not mean I don't like you saying things about AA's. I was just trying to get you to see that neither of us is in the position to negatively judge each other. How come we are always dwelling on the negative aspects of each other? Can't we say something nice,and positive about each other? What I said about AA producing only one billionaire is in response to Drusilla saying that u are the richest and most powerful Africans-I actually took that off an AA internet forum where they were making the same point.What is wrong in pointing out that out of 341 billionaires in the US,only one-Oprah-is AA. I just didn't see why what Drusilla said made you respond with the comment about AA's only being able to produce one billionaire. To me you seemed to not be giving constructive criticism but implying that had AA's switched places with C/A's, they would have produced more than one Billionaire. Constructive criticism is not critical, it's more like advice on how to improve. I don't see how you were giving your advice on how AA's can improve, let along how AA's and C/A's can improve together. 1 out of 341 is telling in such a vibrant and oportunity filled nation like the US Considering all the odds against African descent people in America, I think that's pretty good. Hell, African descent people in Africa can't even make it in their own continent, they have to leave and the numbers of Africans who have to leave is to high for me to even count. So, again, I say that none of us are in the position to judge each other, we all need to be either talking about how we can work together to improve or just shut our mouths about who is doing better or who could have done better. All black people need Gods mercy. Instead of blaming CA for asking about problems of crime and low acheivement u should see it as a constructive critiscm.It is not like Nigerians are not self critical,u are probably not going to get a more self critical bunch than Africans in generral and Nigerians in particular-Lord knows we have a lot to be critical about. Low achievements? There you go again, criticizing. You are in no position to do that. Nothing is constructive about your criticism. What you say is out right out of line, critical. I have been accused in this forum of disliking CA before now I am accused of disliking AA .Neither is the truth,all i am saying is that there is no point in any African wherever located gloating about anything because there is nothing to gloat about. So why are you still criticizing?
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lakers
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pretty sista, you too kool for this arguement.
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Donzman (m)
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Did James Brown actually make this comment: Many African-Americans—some of them are uncomfortable with the hypenation; they believe their Americanness is made less whole, is deformed, by the attachment of their racial origins—also see themselves as vastly superior to Africans. James Brown, the singer, who bears the surname of a white man who happily gave his life in his struggle to end the barbaric enslavement of blacks in the United States, once said he had nothing to do with the African continent, that Africans were so poor that they could not afford shoes. Mr. Brown, of course, had a lot of shoes, about 300 pairs of them, at the time he gave the interview.  Who did I hear telling me about love that Black Americans have for Africans?
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Drusilla (f)
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God visits other places but God lives in Africa. ____Will Smith (Ghetto)
I met Kelly In Africa, from Destiny's child and decided to ask her to sing on this song. ____ Trina (Ghetto)
We belong together.__________Janet Jackson (Ghetto)
Black Americans do love Africans. Do you hear us?
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Drusilla (f)
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But don't blame us for ice cube's terrible movies in Africa. He actually came and advised so called South African crack dealers to get an education.
LOL SMILE
Naturally we just want the connection when the person does not act like an idiot.
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Drusilla (f)
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Still laughing. LOL SMILE
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4 Play (m)
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dru,nobody is smilling with u
if AA are so good ,why do they eat so much chicken?
nobody eats so much chicken as these guys
I really feared for them with the bird flu crisis
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Drusilla (f)
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LOL SMILE
4play, You just check mated me.
Even I had to laugh at that one.
LOL SMILE
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Donzman (m)
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I met Kelly In Africa, from Destiny's child and decided to ask her to sing on this song. ____ Trina (Ghetto)
Am I supposed to assume that anyone who goes to Africa loves Africa?  Naturally we just want the connection when the person does not act like an idiot. We also want the connection as long as the individual is not a bigoted, lying hypocrite. 
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Drusilla (f)
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Donzman, I originally thought it was interesting that Trina was in Africa, she only had one song out. And here she was in Africa meeting Kelly from Destiny's child. Now I see she was on others albums, Trick Daddy etc. So she been getting her money on. That's why I found it interesting. But don't blame us for ice cube's terrible movies in Africa. He actually came and advised so called South African crack dealers to get an education.
LOL SMILE
Naturally we just want the connection when the person does not act like an idiot. When I said that I call myself humbling to the reality that you found James Brown acting Bad, I found Will Smith acting right. This type of fighting is useless. We will always see only who we want, the good and not want to see the bad in us. That seems so clear to me. Hmmmm
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Donzman (m)
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There is actually nothing good in what Will Smith said, yeah God resides in Africa, what about Africans themselves?. . .James Brown insulted Africans as people, that's where the disrespect comes from!
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Drusilla (f)
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Donzman,
You just like to hear your self talk. One ancient star. One Modern Star. Let it go.
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Drusilla (f)
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Will and Jada built a house in South Africa. Or so I heard.
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ThiefOfHearts (f)
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Why? The money they are using for houses should be used to help build houses for victims of Katrina.
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Drusilla (f)
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Thief, The house came before the storm.
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