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Donzman (m)
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Yeah!  . . . I missed the part where you rag on me all the time!  How was your vacation and did you listen to Nigerian music? |
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Donzman (m)
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Good for you but not so good for Nigerian music. |
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eslynera (f)
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:-\clears throat.
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chichimma (f)
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It is because we don't appreciate what have, and if we don't appreciate what we have, nobody else is going to appreciate it.
Exactly, that is the main problem we have always lamenting and criticizing about everything that is home-made ! How can someone else appreciate it then? The mayority of our people are like that just highlighting what is bad or negative instead of shining the light on the areas that most matter people are trying entertain the African masses with music that one can relate to or with! For those that can't appreciate Nigerian artists that are trying to entertain and make an impact on their people should try and do a better job than. As for me these artists are really doing their best so far many artists had made impacts on me for several different reasons ( I am not going to name them all). They are not all the way there but will be with the right marketing, promotion, performances and confidence of making it on an international level! |
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LoverBwoy (m)
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why don't nigerians like criticism? when its time to slaying beyonce and co we jump in, now we can say shyte about nigerian films and music , errr |
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Ndipe (m)
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Chichima, I would like to think that our criticism is constructive. We just can't fawn that Nigerian music are the best, because we are from Nigeria. I don ask this question, and some people seem to agree with me, "Why do some of our musicians, especially the upcoming ones, tend to emulate/inculculate Western rhythm in their choreography? Why can't we be original? Some of our people always overdo thing at times. Tell me, has any of these Western Musicians like Beyounce or Jayz or Patti Labelle ever incorporated any African theme in their music? Why should we copy theirs then? Please, don't even mention globalization as the factor for this copy copy syndrome that is quite prevalent amongst our people. Stick with originality, and you can attain success with it. Dont duplicate, you will always remain second best.
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gbengaijot (m)
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while i wont support the shortcomings of home based artiste( please don't call them local artiste), i will want to say that they are only trying to live up to expectations. How many of use listen to Orlandoh Owoh, or King sunny Ade, or Orlandoh Julius, or even FEmi Kuti( trust me, not many Nigerian do like they listen to Psquare and styl-plus-except those that appreciate AfroBeats). Do you want to know how Nigerian music got to this stage?, its because of poverty. Most of them musicians some to music when all other hopes became lost( not all of them tho). I want you guys to know that Nigerain artiste do not have thesame opportunity like their western counterpart, hen ce the low quality and lack of sensibility in their song. But the point is that, they've metamorphose in recent years. You can't compare the level of talent tuface has now to when he was with the plantashun boiz, I have always said this: When a Nigerian artiste decide to be unique, we always think they are local, when they try to live up to expectations by introducing western influence, we tend to say that they are copy copy, A shortcoming i found recently: *does anyone realise that Psquare BizzyBody aprt 2 and faze kolomental are done with exactly thesame beat?, i was freaking out when i head the kolomental because i can't stop huming bizzy body 2 in my head A very good Nigerian musician i respect for genuinty till today is Beautiful Nubia and Jeremiah Gyang. I can't underestimate those two artiste, But May i ask, how many of us know beautiful Nubia?  ??, not many, why?, because he sings local genre(even tho most of its in English) |
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agbobia (f)
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Ok e o, i will tell u all how it is with naija music abroad from a point of view of polish woman  All music i have on my computer i had to find by myself although i have many naija friends here in Krakow and in Europe, which i know really good. But somehow they didnt want to share it their music with me. I know, im white and i don't have right to listen to your music, as one of my friends ones told me. Even when i was visiting them in their cribs, they were playing usher or something like that. So i searched in internet and downloaded many many songs. More than half of my disc is full of this music, because i really love it. And just after that, when they saw what im listening to, they came to me with their CDs and gave me them, As i see it, the problem is because naija people living abroad don't want to share with anyone their music. Of course, im not talking about giving CDs to everyone who they meet, but just to their friends. Naija's music is so great that i'm sure many of whites will love it as much as i do |
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Christino (m)
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@ Chichinma,
I stand to be corrected but until the late 90's the only place i'D seen ladies shake their asses in video clips was in Afro Beat Videos and Tours like Fela and Femi & Co. Also in our Juju and Fuji videos, "omoge Judie, komole" was a common slang for them, back then we saw most American video clips ranging from Shaba Ranks to Mc Hammer to Puffy, to Jay-Z, no serious ass shakers in sight, then we started seeing Thongs!
As for the indians, many people have used indian soundtracks, from Truth Hurts to our own Aladdin and Julius Agwu.
Michael jackson got the Brazillian beats in They don't care about us and did well with it.
We are one - Angelique Kidjo had an African appeal and was highly accepted for Lion king's soundtrack. He lives in you by Diana ross was also spiced up with African sounds.
Some of these are foreigners using non-western sounds to make waves, why on earth can't we get there someday?
By the way who knows Jay Sean? that Indian dude doing RnB like he's really American? Even most new Bollywood movies have soundtracks like the Americans, Choreography inclusive
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KennyG (m)
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Am surprised no one seems to understand that the problem is that Nigerian music is not an identifiable or a particular type of music internationally. It is so varied and sometimes a duplication of western music that nobody cares and thus it goes unnoticed.
For instance, Makosa is a unique type of music with an international appeal even though its not sung in English; and even though there are many types of musicians singing it they are all doing well internationaly.
I do not understand a word of Koffi Olomide's lyrics yet I love his music as its original and unique and I know a lot of non-Africans who loves it too. Ghanaian music is also easily indentifiable, danceable and has an highlife music quality to it and is surely coming up
But tell me what type of music does Tuface sing, or Lagbaja, or Genevieve, or Omotola etc. Fela is probably the only Nigerian musician who has traversed the boundary by means of originality, I cannot think of anyone else.
Most of our musicians do not try to be original and true to the African culture which is what attracts foreigner to their music.
Hmmmm….Why isn't Nigerian Music Very Popular Internationally?
Simple question, its because they are mostly fake and untrue to their origin
Go figure.
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rof-lmao
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Am surprised no one seems to understand that the problem is that Nigerian music is not an identifiable or a particular type of music internationally. It is so varied and sometimes a duplication of western music that nobody cares and thus it goes unnoticed.
For instance, Makosa is a unique type of music with an international appeal and it is sung in English; and even though there are many types of musicians singing it they are all doing well internationaly.
I do not understand a word of Koffi Olomide's lyrics yet I love his music as its original and unique and I know a lot of non-Africans who loves it too. Ghanaian music is also easily indentifiable, danceable and has an highlife music quality to it and is surely coming up
But tell me what type of music does Tuface sing, or Lagbaja, or Genevieve, or Omotola etc. Fela is probably the only Nigerian musician who has traversed the boundary by means of originality, I cannot think of anyone else.
Most of our musicians do not try to be original and true to the African culture which is what attracts foreigner to their music.
Hmmmm….Why isn't Nigerian Music Very Popular Internationally?
Simple question, its because they are mostly fake and untrue to their origin
Go figure.
Kenny my brother the gimmicks on this board are too lame to realise it. Funny thing is these lames have never stepped outside the shores of Nigeria let alone spending half of their lives abroad yet they think they know more than someone who is. They read stuffs online, listen to a few stuff on their local media stations, garbled that up with ridiculous local rumours and take these as gospel.What they fail to realize is that most of the stuff they are presented is from the perspective of Nigerians so some level "patriotism" is inevitable. Go through this thread and evidence of these is right in your face. They tell them TuFace came to perform in London and they get things confused thinking he was prolly performing at Wembley Arena or sumpin when the kid was at some local hall in Peckham. And I'm not saying that ain't good but we gotta understand exactly what it means to regard someone as popular International act. Even though I'm Nigerian and spent my early years in Nigeria I am a lover of music although I am strictly a Rap/Hip-Hop stan. But then I love them Congolese music just like you said Kenny. In fact them stuffs, Fela and some "vintage" materials from KSA, Ebenezer Obey are the only things you'll find mixed with my vast collections of largely American Hip-Hop, R'n'B, plus Coldplay and few other Rock materials I dig. And I'm talking 300+ albums albums right from 1984(the year I was born) of Run DMC and the early days Def Jam yet these lames believe they're so deep into this shyt more than everyone else. I have deliberated long on this issue some 3-4 years ago personally because I felt a little weird as I didn't feel stuffs from all these Nigerian want to-bes who think they can do better than the Americans. I even gave some of their stuff to the American audience on a forum just to get a neutral perspective and the feedback was even worse because they can't understand let alone relate to what's being said. The American audience don't even feel materials from UK rappers like Dizzy Rascal, Sway, and Kano (who you can argue should share similar subjects) so how the fcuk they gon' relate to Nigerian stuff huh? Even I don't feel them cats! I've heard respectable American acts like Nas and others giving props to Fela. Damn even Nas sampled Fela's material on the Warrior track on God's Son, Fela shared table with great acts James Brown and Stevie Wonder. I've seen a performance of Baba Maal at the Royal Festival Hall back in 1999(when the first rapper to get a somewhat similar treatment was Jay-Z last year at the Royal Albert hall). Yet people are too confused to recognize the fact that these guys are respected because of the originality they showed in their Music: The Africanism. Being an International act means gaining the attention of people of "different cultures" around the world not gaining the attention of your fellow Nigerian residing abroad. |
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Christino (m)
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@ Kenny, You mean you are confused as per Lagbaja's brand of Music? Are you confused as per Femi Kuti's too? Lagbaja is heavily grounded Music wise, and i think he deserves more respect, you really don't have to compare him with the likes of Genevieve, Omotola and even Tuface. Lagbaja started off with Pure Afrobeat (much of comedy and Africalypso) and is purely african, remember his African tour with the likes of Papa Wemba, Youssou n'dour and co. You said makosa is sung in English - was that a slip of keyboard? Before Fela was IK Dairo, if you check Encarta encyclopedia, you can read up about the great guy, he was in the British Royal . . . and Michael Jackson is not even there A great man in his department. Another popular local Nigerian Artiste is King Sunny Ade, need I introduce him and his world tours? And many of our highlife legends like Victor Uwaifo and co nko? Nigeria has loads of local & original music but sadly, most have embraced the western culture in the last 7 years. We have Juju and Fuji as the major ones and thanks to Daddy Showkey, Galala (mixture of Ragga and local spice). Do we want to say Obesere and KWAM1 aren't original enough, what about Sikiru Ayinde Barrister, Kollington Ayinla? I can remember the Makossa craze hit Nigeria in 2000, don't know for how long it's been around, with the Sensual dance steps that go along with it, why has Juju and Fuji craze not filtered into other parts of the world? Surely not a question of originality. Don't forget Makossa is Congolese and mostly french. French is a very popular language, can't be compared with Yoruba or Igbo or even "GREAT" Hausawa. Sex sells and so does sensual music (Obesere is a living witness to that). Personally, i do not appreciate Makossa, it's good music, but to me, i'm more on the hip hop side, preferably hard core Rap, or sensible rnb or Country or Rock. You can see how hard it'll be for someone like me valuing "commercial" music. So i don't think the "faithful", true to the origin artiste are being fake. I think they need more publicity, besides it's harder for UK artistes to make an impact in the US, how much more that of a "Yahoo! corruption - dented image of Nigeria" I'll tell you why Fela was mostly popular. He was popular for what he stood for - the Truth. Most of his songs were thought provoking, like Bob Marley and that puts people like Tupac in their shoes, people who sang of freedom of the mind and fought against the government - indirectly. Besides the three are dead which makes them even more popular. I dey feel you bro, but as original as old Oliver De Coque, Victor Uwaifo, Barrister, Salawa and co were, where are they today? Trust lagbaja knows what he's doing, remember "Konko Below?" It's just a matter of time. |
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Multitask (m)
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It is because of the African way of speaking the English Language in the music and songs. Most International audience don't understand the words if they are not in English and can't sing along or dance to it. If Nigerian music could be presented in the language and accent of the international audience like Sade Adu is doing, I believe Nigerian music may become popular internationally.
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KennyG (m)
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@ Kenny, You mean you are confused as per Lagbaja's brand of Music? Are you confused as per Femi Kuti's too? Lagbaja is heavily grounded Music wise, and i think he deserves more respect, you really don't have to compare him with the likes of Genevieve, Omotola and even Tuface. Lagbaja started off with Pure Afrobeat (much of comedy and Africalypso) and is purely african, remember his African tour with the likes of Papa Wemba, Youssou n'dour and co. You said makosa is sung in English - was that a slip of keyboard? Before Fela was IK Dairo, if you check Encarta encyclopedia, you can read up about the great guy, he was in the British Royal . . . and Michael Jackson is not even there A great man in his department. Another popular local Nigerian Artiste is King Sunny Ade, need I introduce him and his world tours? And many of our highlife legends like Victor Uwaifo and co nko? Nigeria has loads of local & original music but sadly, most have embraced the western culture in the last 7 years. We have Juju and Fuji as the major ones and thanks to Daddy Showkey, Galala (mixture of Ragga and local spice). Do we want to say Obesere and KWAM1 aren't original enough, what about Sikiru Ayinde Barrister, Kollington Ayinla? I can remember the Makossa craze hit Nigeria in 2000, don't know for how long it's been around, with the Sensual dance steps that go along with it, why has Juju and Fuji craze not filtered into other parts of the world? Surely not a question of originality. Don't forget Makossa is Congolese and mostly french. French is a very popular language, can't be compared with Yoruba or Igbo or even "GREAT" Hausawa. Sex sells and so does sensual music (Obesere is a living witness to that). Personally, i do not appreciate Makossa, it's good music, but to me, i'm more on the hip hop side, preferably hard core Rap, or sensible rnb or Country or Rock. You can see how hard it'll be for someone like me valuing "commercial" music. So i don't think the "faithful", true to the origin artiste are being fake. I think they need more publicity, besides it's harder for UK artistes to make an impact in the US, how much more that of a "Yahoo! corruption - dented image of Nigeria" I'll tell you why Fela was mostly popular. He was popular for what he stood for - the Truth. Most of his songs were thought provoking, like Bob Marley and that puts people like Tupac in their shoes, people who sang of freedom of the mind and fought against the government - indirectly. Besides the three are dead which makes them even more popular. I dey feel you bro, but as original as old Oliver De Coque, Victor Uwaifo, Barrister, Salawa and co were, where are they today? Trust lagbaja knows what he's doing, remember "Konko Below?" It's just a matter of time. @Christino A wise man once told me that there was once a city where there were many magicians and to perform magic was no big deal at all. A magician wanted to get known more than others so he learnt a special skill whereby he sat a very fat woman on a very big piano and he lifted the piano with his teeth. Now that the man got known more than others alright!. My point is if you want to be known in this world, you have do things a little bit different. No, I am not the least confused. Don’t get me wrong, I love Orlando Owoh to pieces, Obey, Sunny, Ik Dairo (Baba Aladura), Tunde Nightingale, Oliver de Coque and all the great Nigerian musicians who made their mark nationally and internationally. However, I was directing my reply to contemporary Nigerian musicians who are clearly rudderless. What makes you think Obesere is international because he uses sexual images to titillate audience! Is that original or in good taste? Rap video has already blazed the trail in that. When you talk of international appeal, I am talking of the kind Fela’s music had and still has. You go to Tower Records store in Leicester Square in London where they have one of the busiest and best musical store and upstairs you will find a whole section devoted to Fela’s music that is what I call international recognition that comes fron originality. What is unique about lagbajas music? To me it’s just a fusion of felas music mixed with traditional beat/drums. And most the track does not form a distinctive pattern that can be said to be atypical enough to arouse worldwide curiosity. And the same goes for the other Like Tuface or those commercial and desperate music by Nollywood stars. Yes, agreed not all music can make it internationally for instance there are other types of music in Congo even in America that does not appeal to anyone except few people in their country. However, I am saying that for the new crop of musicians like Tuface etc to make it internationally in the real sense they must go back to the drawing board. Do not be deceived that they have made it internationally just because they travel abroad to sing ‘in some local hall in Peckham’ or wherever. Internationalization of their music simply means being competitive in the global musical market and gracing the CD shelves of the musical stores around the world whether in New York, or Mumbai or Togo. It takes uniqueness of an art form to accomplish that , not some direction-less copy copy. Lastly, the test of originality is not determined by international acceptance it is a function of the test of time. In other words will people be listening to the music in times to come. For instance, Haruna Ishola etc may not be known all over the world but today as young as I am I listen to his music. I do not see how most of these musicians can be singing when they are into their forties unless they make the change now. |
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Christino (m)
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@ Kenny,
I get your point man, and I feel you. you'll agree with me that as Marley is to Jamaica, so is Fela to Nigeria. Besides Marley and 2 other Reggae artistes, how many of them are actually known internationally? Reggae has a lot of appeal and popularity worldwide but even the reggae artistes we know (who are actually making it) are based in Yankee.
People like Beenie Man still keep it live. Wyclef, Shaggy, Sean Paul and their likes are almost totally American in their music nowadays, with a spice of reggae. If Akon spent so much time in Senegal, i don't think he'D be a great hit today.
Let's take country music and rap for example, can a black choose to sing country music today and make it? I sincerely doubt. Same goes for rock, metal among others. But we've seen a few white rappers do what the black man does best in the form of RAP and they made it big time. A living example is Eminem, I won't be surprised to hear that he has sold more than Tupac (hope you get the dubs in this scenario). I'm not racist in my view but you can imagine how America and whites generally have responded to Eminem's brand of rap.
How do you sell Ice in iceland? Answer is simple - packaging. If in everyway, the western culture has taken over, the way we dress, our language and even our economic policies, it's hard to retain the african culture. Someone like Fela chose his way of life totally, from dressing, to his choice of Pidgin English, to Ganja smoking, to marriage, religion and other stuffs, he did not do "follow follow" like we have today.
Besides Femi Kuti, another Nigeria I believe, who can make a strong impact internationally is Lagbaja. I strongly believe in that dude. He's still African, in his voice, choice of words, concept and story line. In the video of never far away, he stripped the ochestra of their western clothing and had them wear their trads), Then the drums . . . very good indeed.
Another group is Ijodee, those guys are great dancers making lots of impact in West Africa and I strongly believe the lead dancer was the main guy in the video clip of Olori Oko by infinity.
Fela did not attain such popularity within minutes and I think it's too early to judge the upcoming "original" ones and the strugling "wannabees" like I said, we've started seeing quality soundtracks and video clips better than 99% of what we saw in the 90s and that's a step further to gaining international appeal.
Unlike nollywood and plenty of their dull storyline and copy copy and over lifting, Nigerians are trying to bust into the international stage with quality materials and in 10 years time, this thread would be a reference point.
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Dios (m)
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The music is wack, the only song that I've heard so far that could very well crossover is African Queen, I've played it around a couple of females and they actually liked it, the dude could have easily capitalised of the that Phat Girlz movie and shot a real nice video with Monique in it and taken it to BET, maybe he could have sold a few grand worth of ring tones, chamillionaire sold 3million of riding dirty afterall. That would have been the first step tho, the next step woulda been making another hit song but I doubt he can ever duplicate African queen(maybe if he had Akon write him a song).
I've heard a few other songs and videos and truth is they lack mass appeal, I even heard this fool dissing 50 and couldn't understand what the jackass was saying. So corner your market first and flood it with some good product, then try to see if you can break into Europe before dreaming of breaking into the states, even the west coast can gain no ground,the south running shit right now and like Jeezy would say thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatsssssssssssss riiiiiiiiiiiiight.
Nas ain't no Nigerian, his dad just changed his name to Olu Dara, the dudes name ins Nasir Jones and he never Queens till he blew up. And for f*ck's sake stop saying Aguilera,Inglesias,Ricky Martin in the same sentence as Hip Hop,y'all driving me crazy.
And whoeva said white boys are big in Rap is crazy, Beastie Boys and Eminem are the only ones and the biggest part if that is whites are the biggest consumers but Em got mad skills tho.
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Christino (m)
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@ Dios,
You are another coward coming up in a brand new name, obviously, u are just an old Nairaland who's scared to come out in his regular name. I'll give you my first and last reply, and put you on auto ignore as well, you arent worth more than 2 mins of my time, and i won't give you more than that!
I don't know who said Nas is Nigerian, it's all rumour, a Yoruba Priest gave his Dad Oludara, so what's new?
Aguilera, Iglesias and Ricky Martin, do they sing Reggae?
I said a few whites made it in Rap, does it mean that Em and Beastie Boys are the best rappers ever? But they sold more than most blacks put together!
You clearly lack common sense which is supposed to be common, if someone like you ever released an album, only fellow Lepers like you would buy.
Buy you a coffin if you're tired of life and need to die @ all cost, must you show us how urgent you need suicide? Olodo!
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Dios (m)
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 Christino what r you talking about, u defininetely don't know shit about hip hop so I won't argue with u, go listen to ricky martin or something faggot
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superman (m)
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sucker F C You K er! what do u know @ dois! dnt let those white gals in US boys scout army get to your head ooo! u go wound ooo
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Dios (m)
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Superman,get of my d*ck kid, you a stalker or something?
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superman (m)
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sori im not your gay patner sori
mistaken ID
suck off
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Dios (m)
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Hey Superfag, suck off? Are u serious, quit playing dawg, u really starting to sound like a middle age retard living in a relative's basement, f*cking crack baby, d*ck in the booty hole nigga. Sh*t sweetheart here's a kiss  Now leave alone. |
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superman (m)
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right recognise a true soldier! next time u know what u are dealin with brov!
1 blood still and happy new year!
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Dios (m)
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Superfag is a true soldier  I think you confused,when I said leave me alone I meant roll over and die b*tch, you atrocious swine, f*ck you. And we ain't blood, stupid sumb*tch. |
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Donzman (m)
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We don't need to go international to be successful. Most of these American artistes are barely known outside of the US./Canada. They do well because the US. has a population of 340+ million.
The best move for our musicians is to capture West/Central/South Africa and the Carribean just like we're doing with Nollywood. We don't need to appeal to people who feel their culture is superior, let's admit it, even with the best musicians, Americans won't accept that it's good music.
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superman (m)
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: Dios
k blow u then
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chichimma (f)
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@ Donzman
Exactly, Nigerian artistes will do well capturing African countries. Americans always seem to feel so superior most of hip-hop music and video is becoming such a routine only things you hear and see is : sex, girls, dollars, rides and gangsta behavior that is soooo original! That is the hype for Americans that is the only thing that seems to sell from the blacks.
@ Ndipe
I did not say that Nigerian artists are the best purely because I am from Nigeria but I feel that they are really trying compared to (five) years ago. There are many artists that have their own style and however If they will become international recognized soon I doubt it. I know how much the West will like to keep Africans out of their spotlight. There are also Nigerian artists that are just copy cats and have no style of their own-- they should not even be in the business of music. The constructive criticism given by some posters were helpfull many were just lamenting and criticising these artists about no originality or Africanism in videos or music. I realize that most of those posters don't even listen to upcoming Nigerian artists they have already condemned them before hearing the song purely because it is home-made. I guess in most cases its an unconcious thing which I have seen in many Nigerians ( abroad & home) when the topic involves Nigeria or anything that relates to it
There are many times I play Nigerian music from upcoming artists for instance Zule Zoo, this guy that sang with Klint the Drunk ( I forgot his name), Weird MC with Iyoya and so on. They deserve some more credit than given to them. It is difficult to penetrate in the entertainment and if Tuface performed in a small local place in US or UK is a stepping stone already. In the Netherlands, some South- Americans and whites can sing African Queen from beginning to the end. It might not be international achievement for most of you but it is a beginning. Most of the American artists started that way for years nobody knew them and then they met the right person/contact that led them where they are today.
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chichimma (f)
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@ Christino I feel you with the points you give that many US artists are taking rhythms or dance moves from other countries. Let me give a few more examples: R. Kelly with Snake ( Belly dancing or break) this is not an American thing but Arabic. Beyonce in Deja Vu her dance moves were taken from the Senegalese dance. R. Kelly with Thoi Thoi I some some martial arts in it and asian influence in the rhythm. The list is ongoing and never ending. Many artists will keep on using other influences than their own. There is nothing wrong with that until they misuse it. Why not Nigerian artists when US artists do it every one will say that they are original and applaud, the other way around the criticism rise. Most of American musicians are covering or remake songs that were hits in the 70s, 80s and even 90s sometimes not even with much difference and still we call it originality and amazing just because they have already made it internationally. When Nigerian artists are trying to be gangsta we want to cut their heads off because Naija no get ghetto, right? Mode 9 did well with its song cry but its of Nigerian origin some posters will not even think it is worth listening too however they will jump and dance on commercial remakes and covers of American artists and call them original just because the attention in the media shines on them by aggressive marketing and promotion . What a different world we live in  |
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Ndipe (m)
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There is nothing wrong in imbibing/incorporating some elements of a foreign musical into our beats but some of our artistes tend to overdo it. If you are singing pure trado african music, then imbibing hiphop into the flow would only reduce the quality of the music. At times, one may even wonder what the genre of music that our artistes are recording, because of so many incorporation. As for rap, which is an African American music, I am not a fan of it and I don't approve of its sometimes derogative portrayal of women. But don't be surprised, if some of our artistes join the bandwagon and quickly incorporate these much despised action into their songs.
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