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layifioren (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #64 on: January 01, 2007, 12:23 AM »

Alabi,
If you read my comment, I said it point blank  I DO NOT CARE WHAT ANYONES STAND IS ON AMERICA AND THE WAR. What I am letting you know is, the dude INTENTIONALLY killed people. What kind of person does that? AN EVIL PERSON THAT DOES NOT RESPECT LIFE. Keep him alive, he wasn't even sober at the court. Arguing, yelling with/at the judges and stuff. That shows how he still feels and then not pass judgement on him because of what? If your relative was one of the people he had killed and he is still not sorry for doing it will you say just let him be alive? Come on now, let's leave all the ANTI-AMERICA bandwagon and lets face the truth when it needs to be told. America and the war is not the issue here. The white minority in SA sobered, tell me, what action did Saddam show to let us know what he is sorry for his actions and would like to help the world? Even self IBB is trying to act all nice now and how many people in their right senses will vote for him? Maybe you!
layifioren (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #65 on: January 01, 2007, 12:32 AM »

Quote from: alabiyemmy on January 01, 2007, 12:13 AM
@ layifioren

How many blacks did the white minority in South Africa killed during the repressive apartheid regime? Please answer this. How long did it take for Mandela to kill the people responsible? He didnt, he called for reconciliation so that the country will move forward, Saddam kept alive would, in my opinion, have formed a basis for reconcilliation, the fact is that America wanted him gone and gone for good, they said he had WMD, they found none, they said he harbours Terrorists, they couldnt trace one, suddenly it became wiping out a dictator for the people of Iraq, who made Ameria the soldier of the world? Who? There was no UN resolution to go to war, hence Bush went, so who is a terrorist here? Who has caused crime against humanity with over 600,000 dead in a meaningless war? Tell us!

It was not the IRAQis that pushed Saddam from power, it was America - so don't fool us by saying IRAQis wanted him out because he was a dictator. Iraqis are now left on their own after America's failure to keep peace, who will account for the souls of over 600,000 people killed in IRAQ so far? Who will acccount for the souls dead in Afhganistan? Who?

oh, i forgot something, how can the Iraqis push Saddam out of power? Was Nigeria able to push Abacha out of power? On top of all our shakara in our little "face me I face you" or whatever you live(d) in Nigeria, we were as silent as a graveyard in the public when THOSES GUYS were ruling Nigeria. Didn't the Nigerians what THOSES GUYS out?
4 Play (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #66 on: January 01, 2007, 12:33 AM »

@alabiyemmy

let us stop beating around the bush(no pun intended),if u geniunely think that most Iraqis did not want Saddam removed from power then u have no knowledge of Iraq.Presumably u think that the Shias and Kurds(80 percent of the populace) wanted him to stay on

Most iraqis wanted him deposed and dead-witness the hundreds applying to be his hangmen-

Do u think those celebrating his death were put up by Americans?

Like I said earlier,the difference between the Iraqi attitude and the American was that had it been left to the Iraqis alone Saddam would have been dead as soon as he was caught .

alabiyemmy (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #67 on: January 01, 2007, 12:34 AM »

@ layifioren

So it is revenge then? What about Pinochet? Because for Chile there was no oil? There was no Israel? Which white people sobered up in South Africa? Thi guy ruled for almost 30 years, and all he got was one year of trial? In a court that was not free from the same American influence?

The truth is that the whole things had been influenced by external factors which should not be the case - a sovereign station should be left sovereign-

5 of his defence lawyers were killed, one Judge resigned for undue influence, another was removed, until the last one and you talk about transparency and fair trial?

Which other leaders help the world? Bush? Blair or who? who will say sorry for thousands killed in IRAQ due to the war? I bet they don't matter? Bush never said sorry for the unjustified war?

Noone is talking about IBB here - we are talking about something more worthwhile.

Whether Nigerian live in face me i face you or not is not the issue here. Saddam is dead, so what peace has that brought to IRAQ? I guess you know IRAQ that well?
layifioren (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #68 on: January 01, 2007, 12:38 AM »

Alabi,
I choose to reserve my comment(s) just because this is going to be a non-ending course. Search your conscience and believe what you truly feel it's right.  Happy New Year!
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #69 on: January 01, 2007, 12:50 AM »

How do the Iraqians feel about this?
I bet they must be cursing the US and Bush whereever they are.
when they toppled down the statue back in '03, most Iraqians were not happy about it. yeah there were the few 35 men that danced around but those don't represent the Iraqian population.  Undecided

was it really the US's job.

The US govt have used their FBI to assasinate govt. figures in other nations before (who knows if they still do it)
I guess they've decided to go public with it.


I heard that Saddam Hussein and Bush family were close friends. They made some  billions in covert oil deals.

oh well, weird politics.  Undecided
Big B1 (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #70 on: January 01, 2007, 12:51 AM »

@ layifioren:

Dude, may God bless you and your pictures.

There is no need for me to entertain you, because you've deviated from the topic to something else you've made up in your head.
You need to go back, take your time and read my comments again. There is nobody praising or condoning Saddam's evil ways.

You totally got it wrong, my man.

You also need to go study how many more leaders walking around with blood in their hands. Start from South Africa to North Korea, my friend.

Also find out why it took America several months before dispatching just 32 soldiers to Liberia to rescue innocents Liberian citizens during the civil war. Keep in mind that Liberia happens to be the only African country colonized by America. (was it because Liberia didn't have enough oil)?
But America was so quick to dispatch 200,000 soldiers to Iraq to free the people of Iraq. Why? What makes people in Iraq so special for America to be spending so much money and man power to free these people?

You need to go back to history and find out how many years Mandela spent in Jail and how many years South African people spent suffering in the hands of the Europeans.

My point: For many years Americans pick and choose fight and I'm not sure if that is right. It is also known all over the world that when you refuse to kiss America's ass, they will find a way to turn your own people against you. Saddam just happened to be a perfect scape goat in this case.

There were many other folks in Iraq that admired Saddam, but CNN wouldn't show you that side of the country, they rather only focused on folks who were against him.

Saddam was an evil man just like many other leaders and deserved to be punished, but who am I to judge another man?

May God bring peace to the world.

Happy NEW YEAR, my friends.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #71 on: January 01, 2007, 12:55 AM »

Quote from: Big B1 on January 01, 2007, 12:51 AM

There were many other folks in Iraq that admired Saddam, but CNN wouldn't show you that side of the country, they rather only focused on folks who were against him.


that's why one can't always trust the media.  Lips sealed
they'll show you 20 men jumping around and dancing but then you really look at it, most Iraqians hate the United States and probably would rather have Hussein.
alabiyemmy (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #72 on: January 01, 2007, 01:07 AM »

Lets take a poll in IRAQ, take a poll and see what percentage likes the American invasion and toppling of their government, and see what figures we will have.

I saw kids on CNN jubilating after Saddam was executed, a few older men and a few cars honking their horns and that was it - lets ask ourselves, in a country ravaged by war and hundreds die daily, lets ask if they realy like what America and the coalition forces has brought on them.
4 Play (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #73 on: January 01, 2007, 01:43 AM »

@alabiyemmy

Actuallly the last known poll taken in Iraq shows that most Iraqis think the removal of Saddam was worth it

do u genuinely believe that most Iraqis-80 percent of whom are Kurds and Shias-did not want Saddam hung?

Seriously,have u heard of the Anfal campaign or Halabja? 
abudada01
Re: Saddam Hussein Is great
« #74 on: January 01, 2007, 05:15 AM »

sadam is great and i am sure now he is in heavan. and i am sure bush wil die soon.sadam is great.may god bless him.
ameen
Pain
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #75 on: January 01, 2007, 07:43 AM »

Quote from: abudada01 on January 01, 2007, 05:15 AM
sadam is great and i am sure now he is in heavan. and i am sure bush wil die soon.sadam is great.may god bless him.
ameen


Thank God You Said Heavan Not Heaven Shocked
virozuru (f)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #76 on: January 01, 2007, 07:43 AM »

you dey craze
Ndipe (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #77 on: January 01, 2007, 12:48 PM »

The video clip/ montage of Saddam's gruesome and harrowing death was quite touching that I could not finish viewing them.  I can't say for sure, why my emotions were stirred, because I was aware of his atrocities against his people. But irrespective of his evil deeds, I think the death penalty, be it lethal injection or sentencing one to the gallows should be abolished. It is barbaric and completely uncouth. I was indeed repulsed by this barbaric action, and the hypocritical action of the European leaders, makes me wonder, "Where were they, when Saddam was sentenced"? Ironically, I feel as if Saddam got a quick get away with his crimes against humanity. There are other ways that this problem could have been resolved. Rather than sentencing him to the gallows, he could have either been exiled, or at worst, imprisoned for life. That latter option would have served as a deterrent to future would be dictators of Iraq and furthermore, would have at least, given him the opportunity to reflect on his previous unaccounted crimes that almost destabilized the world.

I am referring to the Gulf Crisis of 91.

obong (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #78 on: January 01, 2007, 03:16 PM »

saddam's video of his death showed a man that died in dignity.  he was not humiliated as the americans and puppet iraqis had hoped
Eurphoria (f)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #79 on: January 01, 2007, 03:23 PM »

wow dignity in death
phoenixman
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #80 on: January 01, 2007, 04:45 PM »

It always amazes me how honest, decent people are incapable of independent thoughts, especially when they are bombarded with materials designed to program their minds.

Saddams death was an injustice perpetuated on the entire world.
Understand this. An injustice done to one, is an injustice done to all.
As long as the forces of Evil have ordinary people agreeing with them, then mankind will always be crying about the evil that men do.

If you want to understand the true picture, simply put yourself in the shoe of Saddam Hussein.
What would you have done, if as a leader of a country, there were extremist people intent on creating a state out of the one you now lead?
Obviously your actions will have to be draconian and design to stop the insurrection in its tracks(was'nt that what the US did to Iraq?).

All that the man was guilty of was protecting his country.!!!!


4 Play (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #81 on: January 01, 2007, 05:00 PM »

@phoenixman

So when he gassed the entire population of Halabja in 1988 he was defending his country?5,000 civilians

When he wiped out all the members of a single tribe(Barzani tribe),that was protecting the country as well?

i wonder if u will be saying the same thing if the Govt wipes out the community you are from

Have u ever met Iraqis in your life?

I wish I can take u to Edgware Rd in London so u can repeat what u just posted in front of Iraqis,they will lynch before u can say Saddam
virozuru (f)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #82 on: January 01, 2007, 05:20 PM »

don't you idiots know that he he responsible for the deaths of millions of people? live by the gun, die by the gun.
phoenixman
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #83 on: January 01, 2007, 05:47 PM »

Quote from: virozuru on January 01, 2007, 05:20 PM
don't you idiots know that he he responsible for the deaths of millions of people? live by the gun, die by the gun.

If we are to go by that reasoning then Bush should also be guilty of crimes against humanity.

Quote from: 4 Play on January 01, 2007, 05:00 PM

@phoenixman
So when he gassed the entire population of Halabja in 1988 he was defending his country?5,000 civilians
western media distortion of the truth. Why wasn't it an issue when Saddam and the US were buddies? Only after the love was lost we heard he was a demon. Tongue

Quote from: 4 Play on January 01, 2007, 05:00 PM
When he wiped out all the members of a single tribe(Barzani tribe),that was protecting the country as well?
This is what i speak to when i say programmed minds. where is the irrefutable evidence?

Quote from: 4 Play on January 01, 2007, 05:00 PM
Have u ever met Iraqis in your life?
yes i have. ended up in a physical fight with two of them. one made a racist remark, something about a tribal name. had to give it to them Smiley

Omolulu (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #84 on: January 01, 2007, 06:04 PM »

What's with the concern for hussein!Afterall he's killed so many people and many more would have died of unnatural causes if he was still the leader of iraq.Please let the evil dead fight their battles from the grave. Wink
4 Play (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #85 on: January 01, 2007, 06:14 PM »

@phoenixman

My advice to u is go to Edgware Rd,there are some shops run by Iraqis

Go there and tell them that Saddam was only defending them and that all the reports about their relatives being massacred is a Western media distortion and that he was just doing it for the good of their country

You said u fought with some of them,haba do u love their country more than them

There was a time that there was a report of Iraqis engaged in a fight with other muslims in Britain over what is going on in Iraq .It seems that some people love Iraq more than Iraqis and insist on telling them that Saddam was good for them whether they like it or not

phoenixman
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #86 on: January 01, 2007, 06:20 PM »

Quote from: Omolulu on January 01, 2007, 06:04 PM
What's with the concern for hussein!Afterall he's killed so many people and many more would have died of unnatural causes if he was still the leader of iraq.Please let the evil dead fight their battles from the grave. Wink

The battle being fought is not for Saddam(after all he is now dead), but for the living, those who need to open their eyes and recognize when the wool is being put over their eyes.
Oyebanji07 (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #87 on: January 01, 2007, 07:55 PM »

kaecy5 (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #88 on: January 01, 2007, 08:50 PM »

well i watched the video and i almost cried why would they kill him

saddam is bad  we agree but he is not the worse of dictators

bush have killed over 100 000 iraqis since he ventured into iraq, over 3000 american youth dead

cuba has a dictator

iran is worse off

korea also not forgetting china and communism, now u tell me who is worse off sadam or these other fellows

we also have our own here

US have done it again thanks to BUsh and his hunting ideas
davidylan (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #89 on: January 01, 2007, 09:12 PM »

watching the bootleg of that video finally threw out my last ounce of support for george bush!!

Now i feel the US should just leave Iraq!
phoenixman
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #90 on: January 01, 2007, 09:33 PM »

@ Davidylan
Well i read one of your earlier comment. So i shall go in the opposite direction.
If the US leave now, the world will be counting Iraqi dead for a very long time.
please read Saddam letter. Iraq is so divided, it will take decades for unity to
be ever restored(if it ever).
kaecy5 (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #91 on: January 01, 2007, 09:48 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on January 01, 2007, 09:12 PM
watching the bootleg of that video finally threw out my last ounce of support for george bush!!
Now i feel the US should just leave Iraq!

i use to think your a pro AMERICAN

well bush had done it again
davidylan (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #92 on: January 01, 2007, 09:59 PM »

@ kaecy5, yes pro-American, pro justice!

The murder of Saddam Hussein was just the latest high profile sacrifice in America's bungled Iraqi misadventure!

@ phoenixman

So what is the solution? the Americans remain so we continue counting US and Iraqi dead for decades to come?
Mariory (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #93 on: January 01, 2007, 10:13 PM »

I am undecided on the death penalty. However, I won't be losing any sleep because of Saddam. I can dig up tapes of the last moments of people he had executed in front of camera. Ask the Iranians, Saudis, Kuwaitis, Syrians. Hell even Osama was willing to fight the man.

Weather he deserved to die or not is another story which has been told by the Shia lead Iraqi government. Like I said, I won't lose one bit of sleep.
stiyke (m)
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #94 on: January 01, 2007, 11:58 PM »

I too felt sad as i watched the video, but Sadam is so evil that one wonders why he is still alive. Please you guys should remember he was tried under iraqi laws and iraqi law says capital punishment goes for a murderer, and its a fact he is a multi-murderer so why are people making noise??

All you US haters, you guys should thank God that America is in the millitary position it is now. Americans are humans and make mistakes. Have you ever wondered what could happen if the table was rotated and countries like iran and north korea or nazi germany etc were in the posession of america's millitary might. The thought of it would give u sleepless nights. If some countries had america's might, half of the world would have ceased to exist.

You think america is bullying and invading countries with no cause?? Think what Iran would have done if it had america's might, isreal would cease to exist, america would cease to exist, half of europe would have been wiped out, and all you guys that are none muslims would have been gassed, in the name of jihad or that u are infidels.

I think if any of you were in Bush's shoes, given all the events going on and the security threats, you wouldnt have wasted time to invade iraq and afghanistan. These are two things that had to be done by america. 1 for their security and 2 to show their enemies what they can do.
Kudos to Bush.
I know he got faults but so does every human.
phoenixman
Re: Saddam Hussein Is Dead
« #95 on: January 02, 2007, 12:36 AM »

Quote from: stiyke on January 01, 2007, 11:58 PM
I too felt sad as i watched the video, but Sadam is so evil that one wonders why he is still alive. Please you guys should remember he was tried under iraqi laws and iraqi law says capital punishment goes for a murderer, and its a fact he is a multi-murderer so why are people making noise??

All you US haters, you guys should thank God that America is in the millitary position it is now. Americans are humans and make mistakes. Have you ever wondered what could happen if the table was rotated and countries like iran and north korea or nazi germany etc were in the posession of america's millitary might. The thought of it would give u sleepless nights. If some countries had america's might, half of the world would have ceased to exist.

You think america is bullying and invading countries with no cause?? Think what Iran would have done if it had america's might, isreal would cease to exist, america would cease to exist, half of europe would have been wiped out, and all you guys that are none muslims would have been gassed, in the name of jihad or that u are infidels.

I think if any of you were in Bush's shoes, given all the events going on and the security threats, you wouldnt have wasted time to invade iraq and afghanistan. These are two things that had to be done by america. 1 for their security and 2 to show their enemies what they can do.
Kudos to Bush.
I know he got faults but so does every human.

This person speaks with a lot of passion, a pity you also spoke a lot of nonsense. Tongue
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