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Sista (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #32 on: January 02, 2007, 09:50 AM »

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When they have settled on a name they are found.


Mamaput, may i ask you this, what name have you settled on? Also, being that your husband is not from the same bank ground as you,  would your children have the same name as you, which you have chosen to settle on?
Donzman (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #33 on: January 02, 2007, 09:51 AM »

Quote from: Sista on January 02, 2007, 09:48 AM
@Donzman


Josboy4lif is basically saying that any people ,humans especially black people, they all share the same experience when it comes to being non white. He will not see them as not being his brothers and sisters just because they have a hint of white in them, that is what he is saying, at least that is what I think he was saying Undecided Josboy4lif, please clarify?

You're making me ask the same question again. . . Why don't you see everybody as your brothers and sisters regardless of race?  Undecided . . .  Why does it have to based on them having a hint of black?
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #34 on: January 02, 2007, 09:56 AM »

I do not even bother about that.
As long as everyone knows their mother and their father,
We can Trace our roots back to god knows when.
My Kids also do not bother about that.
Its not my right to choose.
My kids tell people they are half Nigerian and they are so light because their dad is White on the other hand.
They claim the part that suits them best in a given situation
But they know who they are
Sista (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #35 on: January 02, 2007, 10:08 AM »

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My kids tell people they are half Nigerian and they are so light because their dad is White on the other hand.
They claim the part that suits them best in a given situation
But they know who they are


But your children are not half Nigerian. I guess they say they are half Nigerian in one of those situations that will suit them best.  Undecided So, if you don't worry about a name, and it is not for you to choose, why do you say AA's are lost?

AA's, they know there they come from and for the longest they have been referring to their self as AA's. The thing is, many AA's do not like calling their self that anymore because they are coming into the education that tells them the name African American was given to them by white people, they don't want white people giving them a name, they want to give their self their own name. So you see, it is really a matter of taking the total control of ones life and ones identity.   Me my self, I just say I am black but in those cases, just like your children, when it suits me, if I get into discussions with white people and even AA's, I tell them I am African, I don't say black or African descent, I say I am African because really, I am. However, I know I was not born in Africa and I know I am a product of slavery, if anyone looks at me and know I was born in America and so was most of my family, they will also know, that I am African descent. So, for me on the most part, referring to my self as black, seems appropriate.
Donzman (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #36 on: January 02, 2007, 10:14 AM »

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So, for me on the most part, referring to my self as black, seems appropriate.

I also conclude from the above that referring to yourself as black American seems appropriate as well. Good night!
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #37 on: January 02, 2007, 10:20 AM »

Then what is this topic all about.
And what is the white mans Issue all about.
In our case its not us havíng a problem with ourselves , but others having a problem with us.
The names we use is the name our fathers gave us and their fathers before them.
The names AA use is the name their fathers gave them and the Massa be4 them.
People see you as AA , What more do you people want.
Will a name solve your problems what ever they may be?Huh
Sista (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #38 on: January 02, 2007, 10:38 AM »

@Donzman

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I also conclude from the above that referring to yourself as black American seems appropriate as well. Good night!

I would have to conclude that it really does not matter what you think is appropriate about me or for me.

@Mamaput
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In our case its not us havíng a problem with ourselves , but others having a problem with us
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AA's have a problem with C/A's?

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The names AA use is the name their fathers gave them and the Massa be4 them.

If massa gave it before my forefathers, how could my forefathers ever really be the ones who gave the name AA's? I don't get you on that one.  Undecided

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People see you as AA , What more do you people want.

I don't want anything and if you know anything about Sista, you would also know that I don't care how people see me as.

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Will a name solve your problems what ever they may be?

If a name could solve the problems AA's have, I would think that after all these years of, C/A's having their names, they would be able to solve their problems  Undecided

mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #39 on: January 02, 2007, 10:41 AM »

So whats this topic all about?
If not a name.
I meant that the name AA people carry today the surname is the name from the Massa.
I have not seen any with African names.
Did Alex Haly(SP) schnge his name back to Mr KINTI?Huh
stranger12
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #40 on: January 02, 2007, 01:39 PM »

@ Sista
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. . .A lot of Africans consider their self to be pure but they have been colonized by the British. I think that most of them have just as much of white blood in them as I may have but still, they think they are pure and I think that is due to he fact that they were born in Africa?

I don't know if you are good with mathematics so I have decided to give you a simple excercise using my life as an example.

Excercise 1

How many generations can you squeeze into 250 years? roughly 10, my mum (100% nigerian)was 28 when she gave birth to me and I have 3 younger ones, I am in my 30's and I don't have a kid yet. If each generation doubled in number (father & mother produce 4 kids) how many will the future generation be in 250 years. Do your calculations please.


regarding the white blood in africa, I can assure you its minimal. In nigeria, the black to white ratio is lower than 1000 : 1
integration takes years. Slave trade at its peak was 250 years ago.

The buying of slaves by whites took place at the shores not interland.

The white guy in America is more likely to have a black ancestor due to the ratio of black to white ratio.

In Europe, whites with black ancestor is more likely than Black with white ancestor in Africa.

Read this journal of Mungo Park's travel in 1805 transcribed from the 1893 Cassell & Company edition by David Price.
http://www.gutenberg.org/dirs/etext04/mng110h.htm
stranger12
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #41 on: January 02, 2007, 02:15 PM »

The point of the journal posted above is to show the low level of interaction between whites and black. It was a spectacle to actually behold "weird" looking humans with very ghostlike skin. (more like fairytale)
(from the perspective of a homogeneous community, any variation from normal is weird)

Africa has a variety of races. It is a huge and diverse continent. Mungo Park only explored part of west Africa the hub of slave trade. Europe is a product of inbreeding migrating normads. England is mostly of the Anglo-Germanic stock.

 Grin  Grin  Grin

love them loads
mazaje (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #42 on: January 02, 2007, 07:38 PM »

@ Josboy4 life

whats up bro, am from J- town too, shout out to you my brother from J town, lots  of love 
righocream (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #43 on: January 03, 2007, 02:03 PM »

Either you didn't know how to spell UTOPIA or you're just bad at delivering sarcasm or both. That is the only clear thing as at now.



DONZMAN, I put in EUTHOPIA instead of UTOPIA because I wanted you to get the drift of the of the humour,  since you had a  hard time figuring it out,  I thank God that you have a great deal of humour because u finaly undertood what I mean,  time out because I am ot dudues
paddy_lo (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #44 on: January 03, 2007, 03:59 PM »

@Mamaput
why did u marry a white man?and are there not areas in germany where you will be killed if you are not very white lookingdon't lie to me because the german Govt even said it as a warning to other non white nations during the world cup.
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #45 on: January 03, 2007, 08:58 PM »

The reason i married a white man is my biz am not the one here dragging white people down.
This places you are talking about i have heard of them.
But Not even the boy downstairs that is blond and has blue eyes will go near these places.
Do not tell be that there are no places were you will not go as a black or what ever in the states , Even in Nigeria there are places you will not go.
What ever the German Govt did , they did it because they were afraid not to stain their name with any thing,.
They had the fear the Nazis may try something stupid. Because of the good old history.
But most of these places are in The east block,.
Germany is not a village please. Most of the things you hear  do not even reach my ears.
tpia
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #46 on: January 04, 2007, 04:33 AM »

Quote from: Hero on January 02, 2007, 07:13 AM
LOL at this Mulatta trying to talk crap about AA. Listen up; you're a  Mulatta Kraut. You have no grounds to be talking about someone being lost. If it wasn't for the aiding valuer of us "lost" AA's ancestors, your undesirable butt would of been sterilized by now--- if not exterminated.   Don't ever forget that, chick.

rather a low blow, don't you think?

Doesn't this statement put you on the same moral level as Michael Richards and his recent racist remarks?  I'm sure you shouted very loudly ( in protest) when he said them.

http://www.cbc.ca/arts/tv/story/2006/11/20/kramer-racial-slurs.html

http://www.vibe.com/news/news_headlines/2006/11/comedian_michael_kramer_richards_goes_into_racial_tirade/
paddy_lo (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #47 on: January 04, 2007, 07:18 AM »

Quote from: mamaput on January 03, 2007, 08:58 PM
The reason i married a white man is my biz am not the one here dragging white people down.
This places you are talking about i have heard of them.
But Not even the boy downstairs that is blond and has blue eyes will go near these places.
Do not tell be that there are no places were you will not go as a black or what ever in the states , Even in Nigeria there are places you will not go.
What ever the German Govt did , they did it because they were afraid not to stain their name with any thing,.
They had the fear the Nazis may try something stupid. Because of the good old history.
But most of these places are in The east block,.
Germany is not a village please. Most of the things you hear do not even reach my ears.

@Mamaput
yea right,as if if me and the blonde guy go there i will be spared and he will be killed,who are you trying to decieve i asked you a question and instead of condeemning the practise you try to say oh well there are places i will not go in Nigeria. . you are in complete denial,i advise you to remain and die in Germany since you love it so much. .
Hero (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #48 on: January 04, 2007, 07:59 AM »

Damn, I feel sorry for you Afro-Germans. You'll have no culture, worth wile history, nor unity. When I went to Germany the majority of the black guys I saw with a spouse had a white chick on their arm, and the black girls were all decked out like white rocker girls,  and the few I saw with a spouse,  had some skinny rocker dude looking thingy. It was a pitiful site. Why do you'all hate yourselves so much?  Undecided
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #49 on: January 04, 2007, 08:54 AM »

You cannot get me with that one,I belong to another generation.
My dad came here in the 60 to study And when he finished he and my mum packed their things and left.
I do not know what you saw but that must have been another circle.
because people like you only know the night life.
Your people come to germany to *** white girls .
But what they do not know is that its the low class white they get. Because they do not even get to see the good ones.
By the way a girl can dress as they want.
And i do not mix in colour. My friends are my friends no matter the colour.
Its you people that have no culture.
Whats your culture Micky mouse, whats your traditional food Hamburger.
Even as you were here you did not go to the right places.
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #50 on: January 04, 2007, 08:56 AM »

And whats an An afro german to you.? not all black girls are Afro germans.
Afro germans are not that many.
Most of the so called Afro germans you say in your Age (Dating age are the remains of your AA people that *** white girl and ran away, Fatherless kids that do not even know were the black in them came from.
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #51 on: January 04, 2007, 09:11 AM »

Paddy if you go with the blond guy he will be killed as well.
I can write what i want when i want and am not in the mood to condem anything now.
Its not for you to tell me when i should.I also did not deny anything.
Ho yes i love Germany the way you love USA .
You are the one telling lies that you will go home.
But you will never go if they do not kick you out
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #52 on: January 04, 2007, 09:15 AM »

I can trace my history . The history of my fathers house and the history of my mothers house,
Tell your AA people to come and look for their lost children here and help them.
Easyy (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #53 on: January 04, 2007, 05:42 PM »

Is this a German VS American warfare???
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #54 on: January 04, 2007, 08:07 PM »

Easy i grew up with my German Mother and My NigerianFather till i was an Adult.
I do not have to be ashamed for any part of me.
And i do not hate the black or white in me.
If others cannot live with that thats not my Problem
This is not the first time  people talk to me as if its something bad.
Donzman (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #55 on: January 04, 2007, 09:31 PM »

Quote from: Hero on January 04, 2007, 07:59 AM
Damn, I feel sorry for you Afro-Germans. You'll have no culture, worth wile history, nor unity. When I went to Germany the majority of the black guys I saw with a spouse had a white chick on their arm, and the black girls were all decked out like white rocker girls, and the few I saw with a spouse, had some skinny rocker dude looking thingy. It was a pitiful site. Why do you'all hate yourselves so much? Undecided

Stupid idiot, so wearing baggy jeans and shirt is what will give them a culture and make them black?. . . Stupid Americans!
JosBoy4Lif (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #56 on: January 04, 2007, 09:38 PM »

@ Donzman
I do see all of us as part of the human race. We are one people. You are right we are not born woth all these beliefs innate in us.
This a learned through our behavioural sorroundings. But yes it is still my belief ragardless.


Is it due to the fact that society classifies us all as black? "Police do not say we have a mullato suspect at hand"
Infact in some parts of the worl like Russia they consider Arabs black, does that mean i do too? come on man,
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #57 on: January 04, 2007, 09:49 PM »

But all of us here know What we are talking about.
It was only in The 80s that Africans really started to marry white.
I do not mean it was not happening  but there were not many.
But Germany was Occupied and The US Army GI s mostly blacks were giving a lot of white girls Belly.And running away. Most of the Afro Germans are people that do not know who their Father is.
It is only ending 80s that the African Germans have started comming up.
People  Girls from Good homes are not seen on the road in Army Discos.
Its only chaffy white trash and some lost black that are looking for anyhow black that go there.
Germans watch their weight you cannot see any how fat people on the road like that.
Many Germans do not lay emphases on cloths but on accomplishments.
Many dress to make a political statement.
From Rocker to hiphop to stylish, to punk to skinheads.
In Different states they dress different,
And That Kraut some people keep talking about is eaten only in one state in the whole of Germany,.
Trust someone to come all the way here and not know.
GI s come here for 2 to 3 years and only know the way to disco and macdonalds.
JosBoy4Lif (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #58 on: January 04, 2007, 09:54 PM »

Afro Germans make up one of the smallest communites of mixed people.
Have you ever been to South America where basically 1/2 people is mixed?
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #59 on: January 04, 2007, 09:59 PM »

you are very right there.
What i meant is that if you take all that were born before The US army left.About that 89 ,1990
The US army mixed make a larger % than the African ones.
But now there is a new law in Germany . A non German that has a baby with a german  gets his paper to stay.With or with out marrage.
And the US Army has left. So this new generation its the other way round.
Africans that stay here long enough get the Papers for their kids so there is also a New generation of Black African Germans mostly in School age
JosBoy4Lif (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #60 on: January 04, 2007, 10:05 PM »

So do mixed Germans also want there own ethnicity Huh
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #61 on: January 04, 2007, 10:09 PM »

"paddy-lo" or whatever is so fucking irritating. At least Sista and Hero yarn their dust because they're envious of not knowing who they are but this so called Nigerian, makes me want to puke.
mamaput (f)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #62 on: January 04, 2007, 10:10 PM »

No they do not.
I have heard about some that have their "Meetings"/club.
But apart from that they mix with all.
As you said there are not that many for them to hang around with each other,
Even the African Kids mix.
The only time you will see African kids moving in Groups is at an African Party.
In Germany you may be the only black or mixed in your class. sometimes in your school.
Like i said they new generation is still  made up of small kids.
They are becomming more.But in a class you will also find only very few pure Germans.
An Avrage of 3 to 5 in a class
Donzman (m)
Re: Are African Americans A "new Ethnicity"?
« #63 on: January 04, 2007, 10:11 PM »

Quote from: JosBoy4Lif on January 04, 2007, 10:05 PM
So do mixed Germans also want there own ethnicity Huh

Who gives out these ethnicities anyway?. . . My family demands their own ethnicity, we're tried of being Igbos.  Cheesy
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