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feelgood (m)
Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« on: October 28, 2009, 08:54 AM »

Their ancestry is traced to the Binis and their 'Igbo' dialect is remarkably different from the heavily accented mainstream. Also the Delta/Osha axis still tenaciously hold on to their ancestral roots. Why then do the Igbos want to 'by force' them into their fold eg making them to head Ohaneze - will it work? When the chips are down, everyone go answer im papa name. What's your take?
asha 80 (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #1 on: October 28, 2009, 10:20 AM »

Quote from: feelgood on October 28, 2009, 08:54 AM
Their ancestry is traced to the Binis and their 'Igbo' dialect is remarkably different from the heavily accented mainstream. Also the Delta/Osha axis still tenaciously hold on to their ancestral roots. Why then do the Igbos want to 'by force' them into their fold eg making them to head Ohaneze - will it work? When the chips are down, everyone go answer im papa name. What's your take?


And you think their papa name na bini?go and tell and bini person that you bare bini and watch his reaction.
ChinenyeN (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #2 on: October 28, 2009, 11:50 AM »

This topic has been overdiscussed. . . Anyway, Feelgood, you'd be surprised, going by the logic of your post, how many groups that you consider Igbo are not "real Igbo". Now, here's my question for you. What makes a group "Igbo"? Please sir, kindly define "Igbo" for us, so that we may be able to differentiate between "fake" and "real" Igbo. Thank you.

Quote from: asha 80 on October 28, 2009, 10:20 AM
And you think their papa name na bini?go and tell and bini person that you bare bini and watch his reaction.
Exactly.
feelgood (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #3 on: October 28, 2009, 02:53 PM »

Chinenye, I would appreciate links to earlier discussions pls. Cheers
Andre Uweh (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #4 on: October 28, 2009, 03:00 PM »

This indeed is a very STUPENDOUS post.
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #5 on: October 28, 2009, 03:21 PM »

I'm sorry, but they are descendants of Eri, 'The Igbo progenitor' (although probably not the only one) most of them have Igbo surnames, and if not, their first name is Igbo and their towns name is also Igbo.
Abagworo (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #6 on: October 29, 2009, 03:12 PM »

Quote from: feelgood on October 28, 2009, 08:54 AM
Their ancestry is traced to the Binis and their 'Igbo' dialect is remarkably different from the heavily accented mainstream. Also the Delta/Osha axis still tenaciously hold on to their ancestral roots. Why then do the Igbos want to 'by force' them into their fold eg making them to head Ohaneze - will it work? When the chips are down, everyone go answer im papa name. What's your take?



eri is the progenitor of umunri and not the entire igboland.most of his descendants are the people found in todays anambra north and east in an area known as isuama.they are the people other igbos referred to as igbos.awka is quite different in origin too.much of imo,abia and ebonyi state dont buy the idea of nri origin.west of orlu town is inhabited by orsu,njaba,oru and oguta.they all dont believe to be the same with the igbos to their right known as isu or the ones to their north known as isuama.abiriba,nkporo,ohafia,item,alayi,arochukwu and edda also share a mutually intelligible dialect which other igbos cannot really understand.ngwa,ndoki,asa,etche and ikwerre also share similarities in dialect which other igbos might not hear too.going up north nsukka,nkanu,izzi,ezza,mgbo,ehugbo also are unique in every way.all these people could be classified as different tribes because both their culture and language differ.onitsha and some parts of delta state speak the same version of igbo as isuama people but seem to have some influence from benin.onitsha in particular was actually founded by either an igbo that lived briefly in benin or a benin man that already lost his language before getting there.coming down to rivers state.the ogba,ndoni,ukwuani,aboh and egbema people had some benin influence through the onitsha immigrants of ezechima   but dont speak the isuama dialect like the onitsha and delta.ekpeye is actually the tribe that mixed with igbos to found ogba.ekpeye is closely related to igbo but cannot be said to be igbo.however on a broader view igbos and ekpeyes have everything in common.they are truely brothers.

in language classification,ekpeye is the only different language in igboid while others are igbo.

i have bulk of references or anybody from the areas i mentioned could testify.
ChinenyeN (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #7 on: October 29, 2009, 06:25 PM »

Quote from: Abagworo on October 29, 2009, 03:12 PM
eri is the progenitor of umunri and not the entire igboland.most of his descendants are the people found in todays anambra north and east in an area known as isuama.they are the people other igbos referred to as igbos.awka is quite different in origin too.much of imo,abia and ebonyi state dont buy the idea of nri origin.
I was just about to come post something along these lines.

Quote from: Abagworo on October 29, 2009, 03:12 PM
west of orlu town is inhabited by orsu,njaba,oru and oguta.they all dont believe to be the same with the igbos to their right known as isu or the ones to their north known as isuama.abiriba,nkporo,ohafia,item,alayi,arochukwu and edda also share a mutually intelligible dialect which other igbos cannot really understand.ngwa,ndoki,asa,etche and ikwerre also share similarities in dialect which other igbos might not hear too.going up north nsukka,nkanu,izzi,ezza,mgbo,ehugbo also are unique in every way.all these people could be classified as different tribes because both their culture and language differ.onitsha and some parts of delta state speak the same version of igbo as isuama people but seem to have some influence from benin.onitsha in particular was actually founded by either an igbo that lived briefly in benin or a benin man that already lost his language before getting there.coming down to rivers state.the ogba,ndoni,ukwuani,aboh and egbema people had some benin influence through the onitsha immigrants of ezechima   but dont speak the isuama dialect like the onitsha and delta.ekpeye is actually the tribe that mixed with igbos to found ogba.ekpeye is closely related to igbo but cannot be said to be igbo.however on a broader view igbos and ekpeyes have everything in common.they are truely brothers.

in language classification,ekpeye is the only different language in igboid while others are igbo.

i have bulk of references or anybody from the areas i mentioned could testify.
This makes much more sense to me than some of the things I've read online, and I can testify to some of it.

Feelgood - The links

Are Ukwuani People Igbos(ukwuani People Please Talk)
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-274104.0.html

Igbo's Be United {from Ikwere To Kwale} There Is Nothing Like Fake Igbo
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-16220.0.html

Ika People{Igbanke}
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-58455.0.html

The Aniomas Are Not Igbos But A Mix Between The Binis, The Yorubas And The Igbos
http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-271684.0.html (I'm not sure why this link doesn't work. Maybe you could ask one of the moderators. )

Also, if you search Google, I'm sure you'll be able to come across sites that have articles and debates about this topic.
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #8 on: October 29, 2009, 08:38 PM »

Quote from: Abagworo on October 29, 2009, 03:12 PM


eri is the progenitor of umunri and not the entire igboland.most of his descendants are the people found in todays anambra north and east in an area known as isuama.they are the people other igbos referred to as igbos.awka is quite different in origin too.much of imo,abia and ebonyi state dont buy the idea of nri origin.west of orlu town is inhabited by orsu,njaba,oru and oguta.they all dont believe to be the same with the igbos to their right known as isu or the ones to their north known as isuama.abiriba,nkporo,ohafia,item,alayi,arochukwu and edda also share a mutually intelligible dialect which other igbos cannot really understand.ngwa,ndoki,asa,etche and ikwerre also share similarities in dialect which other igbos might not hear too.going up north nsukka,nkanu,izzi,ezza,mgbo,ehugbo also are unique in every way.all these people could be classified as different tribes because both their culture and language differ.onitsha and some parts of delta state speak the same version of igbo as isuama people but seem to have some influence from benin.onitsha in particular was actually founded by either an igbo that lived briefly in benin or a benin man that already lost his language before getting there.coming down to rivers state.the ogba,ndoni,ukwuani,aboh and egbema people had some benin influence through the onitsha immigrants of ezechima   but dont speak the isuama dialect like the onitsha and delta.ekpeye is actually the tribe that mixed with igbos to found ogba.ekpeye is closely related to igbo but cannot be said to be igbo.however on a broader view igbos and ekpeyes have everything in common.they are truely brothers.

in language classification,ekpeye is the only different language in igboid while others are igbo.

i have bulk of references or anybody from the areas i mentioned could testify.

The delta Igbo, e.g Igbouzor (Igbo bi na uzor), Akwukwu Igbo, are descendant's of Eri. That's what I was talking about.
Andre Uweh (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #9 on: October 29, 2009, 08:51 PM »

This poster and his likes are the ones bringing separation in Igboland.
To the poster, there is no real Igbo or fake Igbo.
Nobody is more Igbo than his or her neighbour.
There is nothing like Ibos. It is Igbo people or Ndigbo or the Igbo.
From Obollo- afor in the north to Diobu in the South
From Igbanke in the west to Arochukwu in the east.
Any one from this square is an Igbo.
ifyalways (f)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #10 on: November 03, 2009, 08:02 PM »

This thread is very funny  Cheesy Cheesy
Which ones be real igbo and fake igbo?
ezeagu (m)
Re: Are Delta/onitsha Ibos Real Igbos?
« #11 on: November 03, 2009, 08:14 PM »

Quote from: ifyalways on November 03, 2009, 08:02 PM
This thread is very funny  Cheesy Cheesy
Which ones be real igbo and fake igbo?

The fake Igbo arise whenever an Igbo group is eyed for domination from another ethnic group. . . . .
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