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highpappy
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #96 on: November 02, 2009, 03:42 AM »

Quote from: johnkent on November 02, 2009, 02:19 AM
U actually answered the question urself. U can't get a scholarship if you cant go abck to school. Being out of status means u can't be able to enroll and get a new I-20 so getting a scholarship wont do u any good.
If u are on B2 visa, u absolultey wont be able to get into any US school. U will need an f-1 visa and since u've already violated the terms of your B2 visa, u wont be able to change your status to f-1. sorry.
let me know what happens buddy

 Actually i didnt enter US through any of F-1 or B2 as u stated, i came in with A-3 visa which is a diplomat related visa. Although am currently living wit a relative who is responsible for fees and all that but he will soon move back to Nigeria and that is best descibe as out of status and droping out of school. So i just want to know if there can be any scholarship opportunity that can keep me in school atleat or schorlarship is for only intl. student with F-1? any idea??
FL Gators
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #97 on: November 02, 2009, 03:47 AM »

manny4life (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #98 on: November 02, 2009, 05:42 AM »

If u don't have money, why you come in the first place. People think U.S. is a free ride, people who have experienced, welcome. I'm sorry people have to go through what they did, but when u tell some people, they don't listen. Again scholarship isn't that easy only a little % if any is reserved for international students. Can you imagine where hundreds of thousands of students banking hope on one scholarship?
rygem
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #99 on: November 02, 2009, 06:33 AM »

1. Solid Transcript with good GPA
2. Solid GRE or SAT (SAT for undergrads, GRE for grads) scores
3. Solid TOEFL Scores
4. Good personal statement
5. Solid Letters of reference
These could get you a scholarship (for undergrads) or funding/Assistantship for graduate study.

If you didn't get scholarship or assistantship immediately:


1. Make plan for first year before coming, tuition fees, expenses, etc
2. Be on the spot in your first semester on GPA (You have at least gained a foot hold for anyone to listen to you)
3. Research all the Professors in your department (including associated/collaborative) department while in your first semester and find out what they are doing and which of them have funding.
4. Once you identify the ones that have funding, approach then after your first semester, most of then would like to know your academic strength, interest and any prior research experience (First semester GPA would help)
5. Offer to get hands-on experience in their lab even if it is volunteering, show commitment and try to get some result.
6. After, some sacrifice in the lab, talk to the professor about helping you with funding and show that you want to be in it for the long haul (Professor don't want students that would just disappear as soon as they get some little change). Already, if you demonstrate understanding and commitment, the professor would already be putting you in his agenda for funding without your knowledge.
7. If the professor says he doesn't have space, try another one

That's how you transit toward a PhD (if you want) without spending a your cash.

On campus job CANNOT help you in anyway with your school fees and bills. Ok?
Confilass
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #100 on: November 02, 2009, 10:49 AM »

This is an interesting topic.

I should've been there (US) for my 1st degree but I wasn't given the visa.  I have an Uncle who was ready to sponsor me.  Since it's fail, I had to do my degree in Nija and am thinking of coming over for my Master.

Let me ask a question:  how does it go with ppl that win lottery?  At least I've an uncle who is established there.
kizzyaka
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #101 on: November 02, 2009, 12:45 PM »

Quote from: Confilass on November 02, 2009, 10:49 AM
This is an interesting topic.

I should've been there (US) for my 1st degree but I wasn't given the visa. I have an Uncle who was ready to sponsor me. Since it's fail, I had to do my degree in Nija and am thinking of coming over for my Master.

Let me ask a question: how does it go with ppl that win lottery? At least I've an uncle who is established there.

If you win a lottery it means you will be coming to the US with an immigrant visa, precursor to permanent residency (aka green card). With that you are entitled to everything a citizen gets except voting and gov't jobs.
posakosa (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #102 on: November 02, 2009, 12:46 PM »

Quote from: kizzyaka on November 02, 2009, 12:45 PM
If you win a lottery it means you will be coming to the US with an immigrant visa, precursor to permanent residency (aka green card). With that you are entitled to everything a citizen gets except voting and gov't jobs.

You can get city and state jobs.
posakosa (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #103 on: November 02, 2009, 12:48 PM »

Quote from: Confilass on November 02, 2009, 10:49 AM
This is an interesting topic.

I should've been there (US) for my 1st degree but I wasn't given the visa.  I have an Uncle who was ready to sponsor me.  Since it's fail, I had to do my degree in Nija and am thinking of coming over for my Master.

Let me ask a question:  how does it go with ppl that win lottery?  At least I've an uncle who is established there.

Dont depend on no uncle---- ko si omo iya lo oshodi.   Its tough living with someone in the U.S. ive heard some baad stories--- some strangers even treat some people better than family members.
posakosa (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #104 on: November 02, 2009, 12:49 PM »

make sure u really know what your uncle does for a living---- like the real truth.
kizzyaka
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #105 on: November 02, 2009, 01:02 PM »

Quote from: posakosa on November 02, 2009, 12:46 PM
You can get city and state jobs.

Thanks for the correction.
posakosa (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #106 on: November 02, 2009, 01:29 PM »

 Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley Smiley
Nezan (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #107 on: November 02, 2009, 01:57 PM »

Enlightening thread.
johnkent (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #108 on: November 02, 2009, 02:47 PM »

Quote from: posakosa on November 02, 2009, 12:49 PM
make sure u really know what your uncle does for a living---- like the real truth.
i had a great family although some other students have had really had experiences with aunt's and cousins.
corrall (f)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #110 on: November 02, 2009, 02:52 PM »

Thank you so much every one that has contributed. this has been so educating.
Don puk (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #111 on: November 02, 2009, 03:20 PM »

@all:nice & educative thread.@poster:u hv my unreserved thumbsup.@justwise:hw far?,hv u checked out dis thread-senate rejects peace prize for yar'adua.,,men do not go MIA on dis one.
justwise (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #112 on: November 02, 2009, 03:46 PM »

Quote from: posakosa on November 02, 2009, 12:48 PM
Dont depend on no uncle---- ko si omo iya lo oshodi.   Its tough living with someone in the U.S. ive heard some baad stories--- some strangers even treat some people better than family members.

I completely agree with u
justwise (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #113 on: November 02, 2009, 03:47 PM »

Quote from: Don puk on November 02, 2009, 03:20 PM
@all:nice & educative thread.@poster:u hv my unreserved thumbsup.@justwise:hw far?,hv u checked out dis thread-senate rejects peace prize for yar'adua.,,men do not go MIA on dis one.

I'm good. Urself? No i haven't seen the thread
cool zil
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #114 on: November 02, 2009, 04:34 PM »


This goes out to all the F-1 Visa chasers dreaming of crossing 2 d US, you can start saving now to actualise your dreams, my brothers and sisters try 2 think deeply b4 traveling abroad!! even if you are lucky 2 jump the 1st hurdle, Visa, i doubt if u would be able to jump this one,  payments of bills, fees without  facing hell  HuhCry Lips sealed Cry Lips sealed  e.t.c im sure u dont want to end up cursing America when u finally realise  the  strict  policies  and  how  independent you are expected 2 be. These are the common symptoms experienced by those already infected in the system,  Shocked

 1. Dropping out of School
 2. Exploitation and stress from illegal work
 3. Debts
 4. Crime & Fear of Law enforcement
 5. Inability to cross US border
 6  Expectations 4rm friends and family @ home ( naija thing  Embarrassed!!)
 7. Visa expiration and openess to deportation.
johnkent (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #115 on: November 02, 2009, 04:36 PM »

Quote from: cool zil on November 02, 2009, 04:34 PM
This goes out to all the F-1 Visa chasers dreaming of crossing 2 d US, you can start saving now to actualise your dreams, my brothers and sisters try 2 think deeply b4 traveling abroad!! even if you are lucky 2 jump the 1st hurdle, Visa, i doubt if u would be able to jump this one, payments of bills, fees without facing hell HuhCry Lips sealed Cry Lips sealed e.t.c im sure u dont want to end up cursing America when u finally realise the strict policies and how independent you are expected 2 be. These are the common symptoms experienced by those already infected in the system, Shocked

 1. Dropping out of School
 2. Exploitation and stress from illegal work
 3. Debts
 4. Crime & Fear of Law enforcement
 5. Inability to cross US border
 6 Expectations 4rm friends and family @ home ( naija thing Embarrassed!!)
 7. Visa expiration and openess to deportation.
totally agree but u can tell that to someone in nigeria all u want, they still wont get it.
mahogany28
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #116 on: November 02, 2009, 06:46 PM »

Great topic.
Pittbaby (f)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #117 on: November 02, 2009, 09:30 PM »

one word , if you don't have money , SCHOLARSHIP, do your research they are out there nearly all my friends in school got one , my parents did not pay a dime for the second year of my masters program, only wish i was wise enough to have been has aggresive in my first year
VALENCI (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #118 on: November 02, 2009, 10:32 PM »

how about those that win scholarships in the US
Don puk (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #119 on: November 03, 2009, 07:04 AM »

@justwise:am good my broda,hw is Eliza's kingdom? The thread:   http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-345382.99999.html #bot
suxes2005 (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #120 on: November 03, 2009, 10:03 AM »

wat about goin thru a community school? Is it possible to fund urself with some work while studying at a community school?

SHALOM
bigboyslim (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #121 on: November 03, 2009, 01:27 PM »

Quote from: suxes2005 on November 03, 2009, 10:03 AM
wat about goin thru a community school? Is it possible to fund urself with some work while studying at a community school?

SHALOM

And i'm assuming you also plan to get a job after attending a community college right. When people that went to regular school's are still facing hell.
kizzyaka
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #122 on: November 03, 2009, 04:17 PM »

Quote from: bigboyslim on November 03, 2009, 01:27 PM
And i'm assuming you also plan to get a job after attending a community college right. When people that went to regular school's are still facing hell.

Community college is actually one of the cheaper ways, if not the cheapest, of going to college in the US without scholarship. Just make sure you take the transferable 4-year college course credits. After the first two years, you may then apply and transfer to a 4-year college at the junior level. Your degree certificate will only bear the name of the 4-yr college.
phuck_NL
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #123 on: November 03, 2009, 04:29 PM »

It is not by force to school in the US. If you can not afford it or don't have the brain to get a scholarship, keep your ass with ASUU.
How will you convince the consular about your choice of a community college. Trust me, unless you have a good travel history, i doubt the embassy will grant you a visa to go to a community college. Maybe they did in the past, they probably will not do it now knowing Nigerians.
i mean, a community college simply tells them thatt you can't afford to go to school in the US and will be relying on public funds to survive.
kizzyaka
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #124 on: November 03, 2009, 04:41 PM »

If you don't take a chance you may never know.
routsz
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #125 on: November 03, 2009, 05:12 PM »

Quote
Also, the easiest and fastest way to cut out competition and get a job as a student when you see a vacancy advert on a notice board is to take that advert down if you can.   That way, you reduce the no of people who will apply for the same job with you, thereby increasing your chances.
u must b a smooth criminal  Cheesy   Cheesy   Cheesy 
posakosa (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #126 on: November 03, 2009, 05:14 PM »

^^^^^^^^  Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
LaNiger (m)
Re: The Bitter-truth As An International Student In The Us
« #127 on: November 03, 2009, 06:13 PM »

Quote from: phuck_NL on November 03, 2009, 04:29 PM
It is not by force to school in the US. If you can not afford it or don't have the brain to get a scholarship, keep your ass with ASUU.
How will you convince the consular about your choice of a community college. Trust me, unless you have a good travel history, i doubt the embassy will grant you a visa to go to a community college. Maybe they did in the past, they probably will not do it now knowing Nigerians.
i mean, a community college simply tells them thatt you can't afford to go to school in the US and will be relying on public funds to survive.

I got a student visa from the U.S consulate twelve years ago to attend a community college here in NYC.  Focused on my studies, my clothes were about three years behind the fashion trend Smiley because I spent all my money on books that were not available for free in the library.
To get a scholarship from community college to a four year college or university is quite doable, but extremely difficult. 

You have to be in the top 1% of your graduating class.  I actually got scholarship offers from several schools.  (Howard University offered me a partial scholarship for the last year and Baruch College offered me a full scholarship).  I took the free scholarship (awoof) and was offered a great job after graduation.

It is doable, but requires laser focus on your priorities and it was also twelve years ago; the U.S consulate was much nicer then.

Good luck to everyone, what the all the posters have said about coming to the U.S is true.  Do not come here until you have sorted out your financial affairs, and you know what your priorities are.  You cannot work and go to school, it is next to impossible as an undergraduate student.  You must pick one, either school or work.  All the best.  Smiley
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