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Riff-Raff
Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« on: October 30, 2009, 01:18 AM »

Does it, sincerely?
mazaje (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #1 on: October 30, 2009, 03:30 AM »

The bible(or any other religious text out there) does not make any sense to those that live out the bubble of those that practice the christian faith, but it makes a lot of sense to those who have been conditioned and raised to believe in it as the word of a god. . . .since belief in the bible stories will eventually give you some reward in the after life and the rejection of the stories will also put you in danger of burning in hell for eternity according to the christian hypothesis people who know that some of the stories in the bible are false and do not make any sense at all try by all means to rationalize what is written in the bible by finding excuses so that they can continue to hold unto their beliefs and avoid what they have been forced to believe will be the consequence of rejecting the bible stories. . . Some explain some of the very obvious falsehoods and non sense stories as allegorical tales even when the bible states that they were hostorical events just so that they can continue to accept what the bible says. . .  . . For example do you really think people become young earth creationists based on observable evidence? No, they become YEC's because the alternative in their mind is to burn in hell for eternity if they refuse to accept the story of the earth's origins as described by their interpretation of the bible. . . .

Since all the stories in the bible are based on magic you can explain all of them away with very stupid reasoning as all christians do. . . for example the Noah's flood myth. . .a lot of christians KNOW that the story is false but since they have been conditioned to accept the bible as the word of a god they just have to find excuses for it some are now claiming that it is a local flood even when the bible says it is a global flood. . .those that truly believe in it will explain it away for example if you tell them that the noah's ark is too small to hold all those animals they will reply by saying that Yahweh sent baby versions and put them into a hibernation state while on board. . . . .Once you allow magic into your worldview, nothing is impossible. . . . .so the bottom line is that the bible does not make sense to me and it never will. . . the bible is a collection of stories(mostly myths) about human origins from the very narrow pespective of the jews who used their tribal deity as a  the answer to questions posed by a culture for those things they do not understand but see happening around them, fear instilled by threats to those who violate their cultural taboos, and alleviation of the fears of the unknown for those in the culture who abide by cultural mores. . . . The bible is the story of a people and the god they invented in their own image as a group, these book has now been propagated and the god it sells or talks about has now been provided a niche in various people's imaginations  where no one can actually see him/experience him except through imagined inspiration and the interpretation of ancient stories that were written about him by other men.  By the way we KNOW that people that claim to be recieving inspiration from god/gods are people that are mostly thinking to themselves. . . .

bawomolo (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #2 on: October 30, 2009, 04:35 AM »

i think believers should be allowed to answer this question
agathamari (f)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #3 on: October 30, 2009, 05:58 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on October 30, 2009, 03:30 AM
The bible(or any other religious text out there) does not make any sense to those that live out the bubble of those that practice the christian faith, but it makes a lot of sense to those who have been conditioned and raised to believe in it as the word of a god. . . .since belief in the bible stories will eventually give you some reward in the after life and the rejection of the stories will also put you in danger of burning in hell for eternity according to the christian hypothesis people who know that some of the stories in the bible are false and do not make any sense at all try by all means to rationalize what is written in the bible by finding excuses so that they can continue to hold unto their beliefs and avoid what they have been forced to believe will be the consequence of rejecting the bible stories. . . Some explain some of the very obvious falsehoods and non sense stories as allegorical tales even when the bible states that they were hostorical events just so that they can continue to accept what the bible says. . .  . . For example do you really think people become young earth creationists based on observable evidence? No, they become YEC's because the alternative in their mind is to burn in hell for eternity if they refuse to accept the story of the earth's origins as described by their interpretation of the bible. . . .

Since all the stories in the bible are based on magic you can explain all of them away with very stupid reasoning as all christians do. . . for example the Noah's flood myth. . .a lot of christians KNOW that the story is false but since they have been conditioned to accept the bible as the word of a god they just have to find excuses for it some are now claiming that it is a local flood even when the bible says it is a global flood. . .those that truly believe in it will explain it away for example if you tell them that the noah's ark is too small to hold all those animals they will reply by saying that Yahweh sent baby versions and put them into a hibernation state while on board. . . . .Once you allow magic into your worldview, nothing is impossible. . . . .so the bottom line is that the bible does not make sense to me and it never will. . . the bible is a collection of stories(mostly myths) about human origins from the very narrow pespective of the jews who used their tribal deity as a  the answer to questions posed by a culture for those things they do not understand but see happening around them, fear instilled by threats to those who violate their cultural taboos, and alleviation of the fears of the unknown for those in the culture who abide by cultural mores. . . . The bible is the story of a people and the god they invented in their own image as a group, these book has now been propagated and the god it sells or talks about has now been provided a niche in various people's imaginations  where no one can actually see him/experience him except through imagined inspiration and the interpretation of ancient stories that were written about him by other men.  By the way we KNOW that people that claim to be recieving inspiration from god/gods are people that are mostly thinking to themselves. . . .
agreed
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #4 on: October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM »

The bible is nothing but a fraud and full of contradiction
mazaje (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #5 on: October 30, 2009, 08:29 PM »

Quote from: Abuzola on October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM
The bible is nothing but a fraud and full of contradiction

What about your own koran?. .  .Idiot. . . .
MrCrackles (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #6 on: October 30, 2009, 08:30 PM »

Quote from: Abuzola on October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM
The bible is nothing but a fraud and full of contradiction
Shocked
davidylan (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #7 on: October 30, 2009, 08:48 PM »

Quote from: Abuzola on October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM
The bible is nothing but a fraud and full of contradiction

But waraqa was busy reciting it to mohammad?  Grin
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #8 on: October 30, 2009, 08:59 PM »

Waraqa was a muslim, mr man, by the way how is osisi, its bn lng,


@mazaje, you are wawa, dolo, bring one or two contradiction in the Quran if you are truthful
davidylan (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #9 on: October 30, 2009, 09:44 PM »

waraqa was a jew . . . you liar. How could he be a muslim when he was the one mohammad had to come to over his troubling "revelations"?  Grin
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #10 on: October 30, 2009, 10:20 PM »

Waraqa was a xtrian u fool
manmustwac (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #11 on: October 31, 2009, 12:05 AM »

Quote from: Abuzola on October 30, 2009, 08:08 PM
The bible is nothing but a fraud and full of contradiction
Isn't there any contradictions in the quran?
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #12 on: October 31, 2009, 12:09 AM »

No single contradiction, i challenge you to bring one
naijababe (f)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #13 on: October 31, 2009, 12:10 AM »

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he bible is nothing but a fraud and full of contradiction
 

It's wise if u remove the big log in your eyes first
naijababe (f)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #14 on: October 31, 2009, 12:12 AM »

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No single contradiction, i challenge you to bring one
 
 
Here we go again, i won't bother becos i know we'll be going around in circles
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #15 on: October 31, 2009, 12:13 AM »

'O  you assembly of jinn and mankind 'Didn't messengers amongst you come to you, reciting My (GOD) verses and warning you of the meeting of this Day of yours (Day of Reckoning) ?' They will say,'We bear witness against ourselves' it was the life of this world that deceived them. And they will bear witness against themselves that they were disbelievers (kafirun)' Quran 6:130
Kunbee
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #16 on: October 31, 2009, 01:41 AM »

It makes sense to me  Cool Cool
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #17 on: October 31, 2009, 05:16 AM »

Its because you are moron, srry to say. How can you worship a God that was crucified
Kunbee
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #18 on: October 31, 2009, 05:34 AM »

Was the insult necessary  Undecided Undecided Undecided and if you didn't know there is freedom of choice Cool
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #19 on: October 31, 2009, 05:57 AM »

Sorry, didn't mean to insult
luvola
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #20 on: October 31, 2009, 08:29 AM »

d quran is d most fraudulent book hav ever seen
MIKKYIJEGE (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #21 on: October 31, 2009, 11:02 AM »

the holy bible is the best book that has ever existed in human history.
mhm (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #22 on: October 31, 2009, 11:51 AM »

Abuzola, you need to tone down on your responses. I do not believe that our religion condones this type of aggressive responses. You can still pass on your view points without sounding insulting and rude
Muhseen (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #23 on: October 31, 2009, 12:12 PM »

@Abuzola,

"Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious." (16:125)
manmustwac (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #24 on: October 31, 2009, 12:24 PM »

The bible makes sense to the people who were bought up to believe it. Just like the Koran makes sense to the people who were brought up to believe that. But if both parties switched books and the christians read the Koran and the muslims read the bible both books wouldn't make sense to either of them, because they would easily see the inconsistances and flaws in something they were not brought up to believe.
macnuel (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #25 on: October 31, 2009, 12:53 PM »

Quote from: mazaje on October 30, 2009, 03:30 AM
The bible(or any other religious text out there) does not make any sense to those that live out the bubble of those that practice the christian faith, but it makes a lot of sense to those who have been conditioned and raised to believe in it as the word of a god. . . .since belief in the bible stories will eventually give you some reward in the after life and the rejection of the stories will also put you in danger of burning in hell for eternity according to the christian hypothesis people who know that some of the stories in the bible are false and do not make any sense at all try by all means to rationalize what is written in the bible by finding excuses so that they can continue to hold unto their beliefs and avoid what they have been forced to believe will be the consequence of rejecting the bible stories. . . Some explain some of the very obvious falsehoods and non sense stories as allegorical tales even when the bible states that they were hostorical events just so that they can continue to accept what the bible says. . .  . . For example do you really think people become young earth creationists based on observable evidence? No, they become YEC's because the alternative in their mind is to burn in hell for eternity if they refuse to accept the story of the earth's origins as described by their interpretation of the bible. . . .

Since all the stories in the bible are based on magic you can explain all of them away with very stupid reasoning as all christians do. . . for example the Noah's flood myth. . .a lot of christians KNOW that the story is false but since they have been conditioned to accept the bible as the word of a god they just have to find excuses for it some are now claiming that it is a local flood even when the bible says it is a global flood. . .those that truly believe in it will explain it away for example if you tell them that the noah's ark is too small to hold all those animals they will reply by saying that Yahweh sent baby versions and put them into a hibernation state while on board. . . . .Once you allow magic into your worldview, nothing is impossible. . . . .so the bottom line is that the bible does not make sense to me and it never will. . . the bible is a collection of stories(mostly myths) about human origins from the very narrow pespective of the jews who used their tribal deity as a  the answer to questions posed by a culture for those things they do not understand but see happening around them, fear instilled by threats to those who violate their cultural taboos, and alleviation of the fears of the unknown for those in the culture who abide by cultural mores. . . . The bible is the story of a people and the god they invented in their own image as a group, these book has now been propagated and the god it sells or talks about has now been provided a niche in various people's imaginations  where no one can actually see him/experience him except through imagined inspiration and the interpretation of ancient stories that were written about him by other men.  By the way we KNOW that people that claim to be recieving inspiration from god/gods are people that are mostly thinking to themselves. . . .


Quote from: manmustwac on October 31, 2009, 12:24 PM
The bible makes sense to the people who were bought up to believe it. Just like the Koran makes sense to the people who were brought up to believe that. But if both parties switched books and the christians read the Koran and the muslims read the bible both books wouldn't make sense to either of them, because they would easily see the inconsistances and flaws in something they were not brought up to believe.


When we argue sometimes, it is very necessary to look inward at ourselves. No man is a perfection of knowledge. I know this medium is meant in whatever way to serve as a way to get more knowledge, no matter how verse any of us may be.
The Bible as I believe it to be is an entity that cannot be denied. If you say the Bible is contradictory, I may not be in the best position to judge the issue but what judges a "thing" as contradictory or bogus or "fraud". Is it because it has different "stories" (as some of you have put it) which is aimed at teaching different morals? Or is it because it speaks earnestly of what has been, what is and what is to be? As we can very well trace the history of the making of what we call Bible - it is not a book that fell from heaven. The Bible itself is nothing but a mere book. What distinguishes it however is the infallible word that we read from it - referring to our daily activities, our deepest secrets and untold lies. No scholar whatsoever can boldly come out today and declare the Bible as fraud.  I think that is rather too harsh - to be more polite. I'm not trying to be a saint here but the fact is a book that has spent over 100 centuries and yet still thrives should call your mind to something. If it is really a fraud or doesn't make sense, wouldn't it have passed out just like any other books written  just as the time it was written. And come to think of it, the Bible is a compilation of different archives - written at different times and age - yet speak on a common ground. I have read various portions of the Qur'an and spoken at great length with Islamic scholars, I cannot but say the Qur'an itself refers you back into the Bible. It has many references to this same book which "doesn't make sense"?

Speaking of the legend of Noah's ark or rather as it was put - a myth,  I cannot but laugh on that issue. Archaeological findings reveal that indeed that "myth" was for real. I may not have enough time but if you Google it, you'll find proof yourself. The Bible and the Qur'an are books that have stayed long in history. Prophet Mohammed (SAW) can't deny.
Muhseen (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #26 on: October 31, 2009, 01:45 PM »

I am feeling tired as I was beaten up. Hence can only say some few words.

Bible makes sense, I believe. But to what extent? Sincerely speaking Bible WAS a book revealed by the God. The present bible we have now is no longer like the one revealed as it suffers being revised, translated and that led to its being interpolated. That am saying with myriad proofs as those so-called Bible compilers admitted it in their many versions of the bible. Go figure.
mazaje (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #27 on: October 31, 2009, 03:38 PM »

Quote from: macnuel on October 31, 2009, 12:53 PM

When we argue sometimes, it is very necessary to look inward at ourselves. No man is a perfection of knowledge. I know this medium is meant in whatever way to serve as a way to get more knowledge, no matter how verse any of us may be.
The Bible as I believe it to be is an entity that cannot be denied. If you say the Bible is contradictory, I may not be in the best position to judge the issue but what judges a "thing" as contradictory or bogus or "fraud". Is it because it has different "stories" (as some of you have put it) which is aimed at teaching different morals? Or is it because it speaks earnestly of what has been, what is and what is to be? As we can very well trace the history of the making of what we call Bible - it is not a book that fell from heaven. The Bible itself is nothing but a mere book. What distinguishes it however is the infallible word that we read from it - referring to our daily activities, our deepest secrets and untold lies. No scholar whatsoever can boldly come out today and declare the Bible as fraud.  I think that is rather too harsh - to be more polite. I'm not trying to be a saint here but the fact is a book that has spent over 100 centuries and yet still thrives should call your mind to something. If it is really a fraud or doesn't make sense, wouldn't it have passed out just like any other books written  just as the time it was written. And come to think of it, the Bible is a compilation of different archives - written at different times and age - yet speak on a common ground. I have read various portions of the Qur'an and spoken at great length with Islamic scholars, I cannot but say the Qur'an itself refers you back into the Bible. It has many references to this same book which "doesn't make sense"?

The bible is a book written by different people who have different views about a particular deity they are trying to sell. . . .The OT is the history of the jews and how they thought the world and everything the saw around came into existence but the only thing was that they used their very tribal deity as an explanation for all the things the saw around. . . .the bible contains some truths and some lies as well. . . .It has survived through the ages ONLY because it is the tool that is used by the imperial forces since from the time of constantine till the 19th centuary. . . .By the way the same could be said of the koran and the hindu vehda. . . .

Quote
Speaking of the legend of Noah's ark or rather as it was put - a myth,  I cannot but laugh on that issue. Archaeological findings reveal that indeed that "myth" was for real. I may not have enough time but if you Google it, you'll find proof yourself. The Bible and the Qur'an are books that have stayed long in history. Prophet Mohammed (SAW) can't deny.

This is FALSE. . . .there is NO Archaeological finding that reveals that the Noah flood happened outside the pages of the bible even christian geologist are now saying that the flood was a local flood because of the absence of any evidence to support it. . . .The story is just what it is a myth that happned ONLY in the pages of the bible and in the imaginations of the people that have been conditioned to believe in it. . . 
Deep Sight (m)
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #28 on: October 31, 2009, 05:08 PM »

Mazaje, me i no fit judge whether flood happen or e no happen as i no bin dey there, ok, but i'll tell you this much, sea shells have been found on mountain ranges along with other inexplicable things. The Earth is pretty old, so we cant tell what seismic or environmental catastrophes may have occurred in the past. Look at the legend of Atlantis for example?
Kunbee
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #29 on: November 01, 2009, 12:05 AM »

Quote from: Abuzola on October 31, 2009, 05:57 AM
Sorry, didn't mean to insult

Apology accepted Smiley
mantraa
Re: Honestly, Does D Bible Make Sense 2 U?
« #30 on: November 01, 2009, 01:36 AM »

The bible made sense to me until i turned about twelve and learned to think critically and ask honest questions. The answers i got were the same as for all the other fairy tales i was told as a child and i used to wonder why most adults were not able to see through it. Especially as it was forced upon us in our history and was used as a tool to justify slavery, genocide, racism and split up families.

In bible class i always felt sorry for the poor Phillistines, Egyptians, and all the other tribes who were tormented and murdered just because they had different religious beliefs.
Abuzola (m)
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« #31 on: November 01, 2009, 06:25 AM »

Lol welcome on board
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