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mamaput (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #64 on: January 07, 2007, 10:47 AM »

JosBoy4Lif (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #65 on: January 07, 2007, 10:55 AM »

na wa o
Coco29 (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #66 on: January 07, 2007, 11:39 AM »

Quote from: mamaput on January 07, 2007, 10:41 AM
Kenya was discovered by the white man in 1898 And they were actually on their way to Uganda. but when they started ruling there i do not really know.
What i know is that Nigeria and Kenya have nothing in common

mamaput as you are older than me  Lips sealed


@davidylan sweetie you are so lost, i do not hate white people or any other race, but man you are one lost brother. Cry  Cry imagine you talk all the time about how bad our race is and how we blame the whites and you are a "black" man, yr eyes needs to be opened.
Quote from: Sista on January 07, 2007, 02:25 AM

Many of you keep this talk going about the bad African government, you guys keep forgetting that as long as the black African government is trying to imitate it's white direct and indirect rulers who once but still indirectly rule, it will be no such thing as bribes from whites accepted by African leaders.

It will only be puppets getting their strings pulled. String pullers? White people. Puppets? African leaders.

Africa is not ran by African leaders, it is ran by the African puppets which the white colonialism system has purposely designed to make sure only the puppets will be put in office. The puppets, African leaders, they are only the one you can blame, they get paid to take the blame and they get paid very handsomely. No Continent of people who have been colonized and oppressed by it's oppressor will ever be able to deny it's oppressor of what he wants or needs, especially as long as that continent of people continues to keep trying to imitate their oppressor.

You are a bunch of idiots if you think white people gave up ruling Africa i.e post colonialism, a big fraud, there is no such thing as post colonialism in Africa. For one thing, if it was, Africans would be able to develop Africa with out having to leave Africa to get white mans education, all that is in Africa would be good enough.

Still Africans go about chasing after their oppressor everywhere he goes because they have been brainwashed into believing the white way is the great right way, in other words, there is no other way. If you can't be them, you just simply join them.


sista word!!!!!!!
davidylan (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #67 on: January 07, 2007, 04:06 PM »

ignorance, hypocrisy, intolerance, more ignorance!

Quote from: Sista on January 07, 2007, 07:43 AM
I don't care about you being born and bred in Africa. You are still very young. I have spoken with many Africans a lot older than you who know way more than you think you know.

Fortunately for us, age is not an indicator of knowledge or maturity. you are a perfect example of an old but immature adult with no knowledge. Who are those "africans" who are way older than me that you have spoken to? are they the ones feeding you with lies about white men dumping waste in Africa when indeed it is irresponsible African leaders signing multi-million dollar deals with foreign governments to use their lands as dumping grounds for Europe's hazardous waste? Are they the ones who told you it was the white man that installed Babangida and Abacha in power?

Quote from: Sista on January 07, 2007, 07:43 AM
Can anyone tell me where did the British first practice their rulership at first, Kenya or Nigeria? I already know the answer but I what all you Nigerians say.

And what has Kenya and Nigeria got in common? Is someone having a few screws loose here?

Quote from: Coco29 on January 07, 2007, 11:39 AM
@davidylan sweetie you are so lost, i do not hate white people or any other race, but man you are one lost brother. Cry Cry imagine you talk all the time about how bad our race is and how we blame the whites and you are a "black" man, yr eyes needs to be opened.

yes you do not "hate" any other race, you only say nonsense to back your intolerance of other races. You are the one lost in the wilderness of misplaced priorities my dear, it is you who needs her eyes opened to see the truth that Africa's problems go beyond mere blaming the white man for everything.

Quote from: Coco29 on January 07, 2007, 11:39 AM
sista word!!!!!!!

yes, i agree. Sista word!!! Especially when those words are full of ignorance laced with hypocrisy! Word!!!
Coco29 (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #68 on: January 07, 2007, 04:37 PM »

Quote from: davidylan on January 07, 2007, 04:06 PM

yes you do not "hate" any other race, you only say nonsense to back your intolerance of other races. You are the one lost in the wilderness of misplaced priorities my dear, it is you who needs her eyes opened to see the truth that Africa's problems go beyond mere blaming the white man for everything.

yes, i agree. Sista word!!! Especially when those words are full of ignorance laced with hypocrisy! Word!!!


i hear you !! Smiley
superman (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #69 on: January 07, 2007, 08:54 PM »

more nonsense as u would expect! more to come
Radiant (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #70 on: January 07, 2007, 08:58 PM »

MEGADUMBO!
superman (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #71 on: January 07, 2007, 09:01 PM »

yeap coorect!
Radiant (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #72 on: January 07, 2007, 09:36 PM »

  Undecided
mazaje (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #73 on: January 07, 2007, 10:28 PM »

     "Many of you keep this talk going about the bad African government, you guys keep forgetting that as long as the black African government is trying to imitate it's white direct and indirect rulers who once but still indirectly rule, it will be no such thing as bribes from whites accepted by African leaders.

It will only be puppets getting their strings pulled. String pullers? White people. Puppets? African leaders.

Africa is not ran by African leaders, it is ran by the African puppets which the white colonialism system has purposely designed to make sure only the puppets will be put in office. The puppets, African leaders, they are only the one you can blame, they get paid to take the blame and they get paid very handsomely. No Continent of people who have been colonized and oppressed by it's oppressor will ever be able to deny it's oppressor of what he wants or needs, especially as long as that continent of people continues to keep trying to imitate their oppressor.

You are a bunch of idiots if you think white people gave up ruling Africa i.e post colonialism, a big fraud, there is no such thing as post colonialism in Africa. For one thing, if it was, Africans would be able to develop Africa with out having to leave Africa to get white mans education, all that is in Africa would be good enough.

Still Africans go about chasing after their oppressor everywhere he goes because they have been brainwashed into believing the white way is the great right way, in other words, there is no other way. If you can't be them, you just simply join them. "


lol na wah ohhhh when will the black people stop crying foul and do something to end all the evil against them? i will say it over and over again our leaders didnt decend from heaven they are an integral part of us. have a look at the so called terrorist Arabs, some of them were colonised and exploited by the white people just as we the africans but despite everything they are still growing why can't we ? the same hate the white people have for us is the same hate and contempt they have for them(arabs) too but can u compare them with us?NO, they(arabs) are not even practising democracy, most of them are still practising mornachy. but u can see how things are chaninging for the better for them.

Crying foul will not save us, u have to be in nigeria to know that there is little the white man knows about our political madness and stupidity.its just share greed and stupidity that is responsible for our suffering and backwardness, why arent the corrupt white leaders taking their looted funds to africa? why must it be the africans that must keep on taking their looted funds to the white mans land?The arfican government is responsible for all the sufferings and backwardness in africa , if they want us to move forward we will definately move forward, but because they don't we are still where we are, the white man should not be blame for our stupidity and madness all the time
4 Play (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #74 on: January 07, 2007, 10:34 PM »

The evils that blacks perpetuate against each other are more important than evoking memories of hangings that occured decades ago just to whip up self pity

superman (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #75 on: January 08, 2007, 01:03 AM »

i think we already know that but somehow this is different issue we got here
Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #76 on: January 08, 2007, 02:01 AM »

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ignorance, hypocrisy, intolerance, more ignorance!

Hypocrite, Hypocrite and eve more a criticizing Hypocrite.

If you feel the way you feel, why do you even bother?


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Fortunately for us, age is not an indicator of knowledge or maturity.

If someone is 30 years older than you and they are C/ African, they would know more than you know. You are right, maturity has noting to do with anything but experience does.

@Mamaput
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What i know is that Nigeria and Kenya have nothing in common

What the Kenyans have in common with Nigerians is, they were both ruled by the British but one group of people had enough sense to drive the British away.

My question I was leading up to is, why do you think the Kenyans were able to realize they could drive away the British? The answer lies in who was first ruled by the British?

So I ask again, if so many of you claim to know so much about African history especially colonial rule, tell me then, who was ruled by the British first, Nigerians or Kenyans?

I already know the answer as I knew the first time I initially asked the question.

I am sure many of you will google your hearts out. Shocked
Ugwumba (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #77 on: January 08, 2007, 02:03 AM »

*ahhh, the usual suspects.* Huh Huh Huh
Donzman (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #78 on: January 08, 2007, 02:04 AM »

Kenya drove the British away, like pack them in a mini-van and dropped them off at the airport with their suitcases and a kiss here and there on the cheek.  Cheesy

@Sista

Let's assume we do not know which ones the British ruled first, what point are you trying to make?

P.S.: I was going through a list of known African Nationalists and there are no Nigerians there. Message to Sista, Nigerians do not exactly care for your message.
davidylan (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #79 on: January 08, 2007, 02:10 AM »

Quote from: Sista on January 08, 2007, 02:01 AM
@Mamaput
What the Kenyans have in common with Nigerians is, they were both ruled by the British but one group of people had enough sense to drive the British away.

My question I was leading up to is, why do you think the Kenyans were able to realize they could drive away the British? The answer lies in who was first ruled by the British?

So I ask again, if so many of you claim to know so much about African history especially colonial rule, tell me then, who was ruled by the British first, Nigerians or Kenyans?


The above statements just convince the more that you're the most stupid individual i have had the misfortune of sharing a forum with.

Questions: What do Kenyans and Nigerians have in common? That they were colonised by the British? And so were the Ghanains, Zimbabweans, Namibians, SouthAfricans e.t.c. You stupid fool! Why are you not attacking the South Africans for only managing to "drive" out white (er Pseudo-British rule iin 1994!!!! more than 34 years after the Nigerians finally succeeded?).

Do you have a clue how Nigeria gained her independence and why we did not gain independence before 1960?

O the Kenyans had "enough sense" to "drive" out the British before the clueless Nigerians could?

Where do all these clowns come from trying to stand our collective history on its head?

Donzman (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #80 on: January 08, 2007, 02:19 AM »

Actually Davidylan, we gained independence before Kenya who have a relatively larger white/asian population. Grin

That is why I'm wondering what Sista is getting at!
davidylan (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #81 on: January 08, 2007, 02:24 AM »

@ donzman

yes, i only threw that in as one of my hypothetical questions to that clown yapping about everything she doesnt have a clue about! She claims the Kenyans had the bravery to "drive" out the British from Kenya, i'm sure she's refering (even though she's clueless about it!) to the Mau Mau uprising that lasted between 1952 and 1960. What she's unaware of is that the uprising failed woefully, Kenya did not gain independence until 1963 (3 years after Nigeria!).

besides as at 1875, the only two European controlled colonies in Africa was Algeria (France) and Cape Colony (Britain) - now known as South Africa!
Ugwumba (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #82 on: January 08, 2007, 02:31 AM »

Can we all just agree to disagree on some of these issues, without getting into these mudslinging wars?

Nairaland posts are getting even more abusive, and the protagonists are usually the same.

I quite enjoy the debates, but sometimes I am bogged down by the unkind words that are traded (I have been guilty of this a few times).

Let's show some more respect for each other in this new year.

@ topic - the Jews have never forgotten the Holocaust, and their mantra 'Never again', has been echoed and accepted by the rest of the civilized world, because of their doggedness. We Africans forget the suffering and injustice of slavery at our own peril.

Not forgetting does not, however, mean not forgiving - we unchain ourselves and become free by forgiving. Nelson Mandela's life should be a lesson to us all - HE FORGAVE, BUT NEVER FORGOT, so he is at peace with himself and is respected for this.
mamaput (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #83 on: January 08, 2007, 07:37 AM »

In 1905 Kenya was declared the land of the white man.
But the history is not the same as that of Nigeria.
IN Kenya they were buying land and settling down.
I think they became greedy
White man did not settle down  in Nigeria the way he did in Kenya.
Radiant (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #84 on: January 08, 2007, 12:08 PM »

Quote from: mamaput on January 08, 2007, 07:37 AM
In 1905 

lmao  Grin

stranger12
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #85 on: January 08, 2007, 02:33 PM »

@ sista
your pedestal: black skin, American, probably oppressed by whites, American propaganda


it is not your fault that you view things the way you do, get off your pedestal, you might see things differently.

Even if you come to Nigeria, you might find that the ratio of white to black is 50:50 and another Nigerian might see it as 1000000:1

. . . as a matter of fact, I like you but . . .


Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #86 on: January 08, 2007, 04:53 PM »

@Donzman

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Kenya drove the British away, like pack them in a mini-van and dropped them off at the airport with their suitcases and a kiss here and there on the cheek. 

Funny!
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@Sista

Let's assume we do not know which ones the British ruled first, what point are you trying to make?

I don't want to spell anything out anymore. If you can't figure it out, to bad.

@Moron

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The above statements just convince the more that you're the most stupid individual i have had the misfortune of sharing a forum with.

Who's the stupidest? The stupid one who mines her own business or the stupid one who keeps responding to the one he is calling stupid? When the one he calls stupid is not even talking to the stupid one. Don't you realize by now? You don't' have to keep making a point to show that you see what I post. Haven't you noticed by now? I don't personally direct anything to you. Yet you keep having something to say to me. Undecided 

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Questions: What do Kenyans and Nigerians have in common? That they were colonized by the British? And so were the Ghanains, Zimbabweans, Namibians, SouthAfricans e.t.c. You stupid fool! Why are you not attacking the South Africans for only managing to "drive" out white (er Pseudo-British rule iin 1994!!!! more than 34 years after the Nigerians finally succeeded?).

Moron, If I wanted to make a point about South Africans, Ghanaians, Zimbabweans and etc. I would have brought them up. 

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Do you have a clue how Nigeria gained her independence and why we did not gain independence before 1960?

If I did, you would tell me I don't know what I am talking about so instead of yapping your self righteous mouth about nothing, why don't you tell me something? Why don't you tell me your point for asking me If I am aware of how Nigeria had not gained Independence before 1960


@Mamput

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In 1905 Kenya was declared the land of the white man.
But the history is not the same as that of Nigeria.
IN Kenya they were buying land and settling down.
I think they became greedy
White man did not settle down  in Nigeria the way he did in Kenya.

Yes the British were greedy of course. Any group of people who have the gull to prefer manipulating and forcing their will on to another group of people who exist on another continent has to be the ultimate greediest. They may have practiced so called in direct rule in Nigeria but that doesn't mean they were less greedier than when they practiced direct rule in Kenya.

@Stranger

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@ sista
your pedestal: black skin, American, probably oppressed by whites, American propaganda

Do you know me? If you don't. I think I would like to keep it that way. Wink

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it is not your fault that you view things the way you do, get off your pedestal, you might see things differently.

Even if you come to Nigeria, you might find that the ratio of white to black is 50:50 and another Nigerian might see it as 1000000:1

Wow, you are up to 54 postings, keep going. Next time, make sure you say something worth hearing and that I care to hear  Wink

Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #87 on: January 08, 2007, 06:10 PM »



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have a look at the so called terrorist Arabs, some of them were colonised and exploited by the white people just as we the africans but despite everything they are still growing why can't we ?


Arabs and Asians, they still have their own religion which is ruling in their country. African people have gone steer crazy with white mans version of Christianity hence Africans are spiritually enslaved. The ones who colonized them also instilled in them the white mans version of Christianity which is to treat people as you want to be treated, even when they treat you like shit. If they treat you like shit, pray for them and God will take care of them and you will be rewarded a place in heaven when this is all over, meanwhile- Africans suffer through hell while here on earth.  Undecided Mean while, Africans are still on their knees praying while White people steel Africans and colonize Africa and do what ever they want to do to Africa and Africans.

The people left behind in Africa have all been terribly white washed influenced but not in a way that will help them of course, only in a way that will assure white people get to keep having their way while Africans stay on their knees waiting for God to take care of those evil white people. Arabs know better than to give up their religion to settle for a religion that will supress them while up lifting white people.  Asians also Know better, they both learned from what Africans already suffered for doing something so foolish.

Africans are so foolish like little black sheep that they actually believe that Arabs and Asians practice the wrong religion and some day they will see they are wrong. Mean while, Africans are the only fools suffering while continuing to get on their knees praying for God to do something about their suffering.  Undecided
mazaje (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #88 on: January 08, 2007, 06:20 PM »

@ sista what religion do u believe in? religion has nothing to do with what is going on in africa, its more about mind set than religion we need to have a better mind set do more positive things to help our selves. we arent doing that and thats our greatest problem not religion or praying to God.
Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #89 on: January 08, 2007, 06:42 PM »

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@ sista what religion do u believe in?

Why should I tell you what I believe in just so you can criticize me even more so?

Bottom line, if white people did not bring Christianity into Africa, Africans like fools, would not be running around talking about they are Christians and professing Christianity as the right religion as and while they continue to suffer.

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religion has nothing to do with what is going on in africa,

Was the majority Africans Christians before white people colonized Africa?

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its more about mind set  than religion we need to have a better mind

And the African mind set is worst or better sense White Christian conversion and colonialism?

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set do more positive things to help our selves. we arent doing that and thats our greatest problem not religion or praying to God.

Well you would have to be blind not to realize that Africans gave everything up to be more like the white people who colonized and enslaved them. Africans practically gave their selves up when they submitted to white mans idea of spirituality.

Now, many Africans can not see clearly. African Christians are better than Arabs even though economically Arabs are doing better than Africans? African Christians are better  than Hindu's and Buddhist when Asians economically do better than Africans? Africans must be the fools that you your self said they are. You said Africans have a low IQ. That low IQ stems from their sheepish behavior to be led to slaughter by Arabs and Whites and who so ever wishes to take advantage of them.
mazaje (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #90 on: January 08, 2007, 07:08 PM »

@ sista

ok enough of the blame game, let me ask u some question no body here on NL has asked you before. what do u think the african should do to get them selves out of the snares of the white evil( Grin Grin Grin) people? instead of complianing and crying foul what have u done as a person to uplift the plights of the AA living next to u apart from instigating hate and a myopic idea?why do u think we are the ones that are always at the bottom of it all?, why are always being exploited,enslaved and cheated upon, why are we not the ones exploiting and enslaving the whites,why are we always accepting what ever every body brings to us(whites and arabs) and we never want to make them accept our ways?why are we the ones always killing and denying each other because of some white or asian while they never do same for us? instead of crying foul and blaming the white people u should give answers to this questions and try to tell people how to deal with the answers and apply them to their lives because thats how we wil move forward as a people not by spendning all the on the internet trying to show that we are better and innocent while the white man is the evil and vialliant one
Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #91 on: January 08, 2007, 07:14 PM »

Not so fast Masaje  Grin you didn't answer any of my questions first.



Why should I tell you what I believe in just so you can criticize me even more so?


Was the majority Africans Christians before white people colonized Africa?


And the African mind set is worst or better sense White Christian conversion and colonialism?


African Christians are better than Arabs even though economically Arabs are doing better than Africans? African Christians are better  than Hindu's and Buddhist when Asians economically do better than Africans?
mazaje (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #92 on: January 08, 2007, 07:34 PM »

Quote from: Sista on January 08, 2007, 07:14 PM

Why should I tell you what I believe in just so you can criticize me even more so?


Was the majority Africans Christians before white people colonized Africa?


And the African mind set is worst or better sense White Christian conversion and colonialism?


African Christians are better than Arabs even though economically Arabs are doing better than Africans? African Christians are better than Hindu's and Buddhist when Asians economically do better than Africans?


I just want to know what u believe in because i just want to believe its not christianity else it will be hypocritical of u are a christain.

The majority of africans were not christians before they were colonized.

As for the last question the answer is i don't know , it all depens on the way u are looking at it. some one will say its has been better another might say it has been worse depending on how they are viewing it.



Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #93 on: January 08, 2007, 07:38 PM »

@Masaje

You forgot to answer this question.

African Christians are better than Arabs even though economically Arabs are doing better than Africans? African Christians are better  than Hindu's and Buddhist when Asians economically do better than Africans?
mazaje (m)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #94 on: January 08, 2007, 08:13 PM »

Always love your brothers and sisters Grin Grin love ur enemies and pary for them Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
Sista (f)
Re: Why We Should Never Forget
« #95 on: January 08, 2007, 08:25 PM »

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I just want to know what u believe in because i just want to believe its not christianity else it will be hypocritical of u are a christain.

I was raised as a Christian and went to Catholic school but for the last 15 years I have not been a Christian and during the time I went to Catholic school and was being raised to be a Christian, I don't consider that I ever was a Christian.

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The majority of africans were not christians before they were colonized.

Why did they see if fit to become Christians? Did they feel as though they were evil and needed deliverance but only white people could help them with deliverance? Did they think it was okay to exchange spirituality for the take over on them and their land? Had it not occurred to them that the same people ruling over them and taking over their land hence dividing them all, that these people should not be the onces showing them how to find God through the so called right religion? In other words, why would anyone let the one who robs them show them God/the right religion? why would anyone let the one who has separated them from their other brothers and sisters show them God/the right religion. How can anyone let the devil sell them God and then actually believe that what the devil is saying, is true?

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As for the last question the answer is i don't know , it all depens on the way u are looking at it. some one will say its has been better another might say it has been worse depending on how they are viewing it.

Bottom line, if people think the African mindset is better or worse sense colonialism, what ever the African mindset  is, it has done not good for Africa. African people are confused as hell.
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