Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?

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Physicist
Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« on: November 03, 2009, 07:08 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IQ_and_the_Wealth_of_Nations



National IQ estimates

Rank    Country    IQ estimate    Rank    Country    IQ estimate    Rank    Country    IQ estimate
*     Hong Kong    107    26     Russia    96    54     Fiji    84
1     South Korea    106    26     Slovakia    96    54     Iran    84
2     Japan    105    26     Uruguay    96    54     Marshall Islands    84
3     Taiwan    104    30     Portugal    95    54     Puerto Rico    84
4     Singapore    103    30     Slovenia    95    58     Egypt    83
5     Austria    102    32     Israel    94    59     India    81
5     Germany    102    32     Romania    94    60     Ecuador    80
5     Italy    102    34     Bulgaria    93    61     Guatemala    79
5     Netherlands    102    34     Ireland    93    62     Barbados    78
9     Sweden    101    34     Greece    93    62     Nepal    78
9     Switzerland    101    36     Malaysia    92    62     Qatar    78
11     Belgium    100    38     Thailand    91    65     Zambia    77
11     China    100    39     Croatia    90    66     Congo    73
11     New Zealand    100    39     Peru    90    66     Uganda    73
11     United Kingdom    100    39     Turkey    90    68     Jamaica    72
15     Hungary    99    42     Colombia    89    68     Kenya    72
15     Poland    99    42     Indonesia    89    68     South Africa    72
15     Spain    99    42     Suriname    89    68     Sudan    72
17     Australia    98    45     Brazil    87    68     Tanzania    72
17     Denmark    98    45     Iraq    87    73     Ghana    71
17     France    98    45     Mexico    87    74     Nigeria    67
17     Mongolia    98    45     Samoa    87    75     Guinea    66
17     United States    98    45     Tonga    87    75     Zimbabwe    66
22     Canada    97    50     Lebanon    86    77     Democratic Republic of the Congo    65
22     Czech Republic    97    50     Philippines    86    78     Sierra Leone    64
22     Finland    97    52     Cuba    85    79     Ethiopia    63
26     Argentina    96    52     Morocco    85    80     Equatorial Guinea    59
SEFAGO (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #1 on: November 03, 2009, 07:37 PM »

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Rank    Country    IQ estimate    Rank    Country    IQ estimate    Rank    Country    IQ estimate
*     Hong Kong    107    26     Russia    96    54     Fiji    84
1     South Korea    106    26     Slovakia    96    54     Iran    84
2     Japan    105    26     Uruguay    96    54     Marshall Islands    84
3     Taiwan    104    30     Portugal    95    54     Puerto Rico    84
4     Singapore    103    30     Slovenia    95    58     Egypt    83
5     Austria    102    32     Israel    94    59     India    81
5     Germany    102    32     Romania    94    60     Ecuador    80
5     Italy    102    34     Bulgaria    93    61     Guatemala    79
5     Netherlands    102    34     Ireland    93    62     Barbados    78
9     Sweden    101    34     Greece    93    62     Nepal    78
9     Switzerland    101    36     Malaysia    92    62     Qatar    78
11     Belgium    100    38     Thailand    91    65     Zambia    77
11     China    100    39     Croatia    90    66     Congo    73
11     New Zealand    100    39     Peru    90    66     Uganda    73
11     United Kingdom    100    39     Turkey    90    68     Jamaica    72
15     Hungary    99    42     Colombia    89    68     Kenya    72
15     Poland    99    42     Indonesia    89    68     South Africa    72
15     Spain    99    42     Suriname    89    68     Sudan    72
17     Australia    98    45     Brazil    87    68     Tanzania    72
17     Denmark    98    45     Iraq    87    73     Ghana    71
17     France    98    45     Mexico    87    74     Nigeria    67
17     Mongolia    98    45     Samoa    87    75     Guinea    66
17     United States    98    45     Tonga    87    75     Zimbabwe    66
22     Canada    97    50     Lebanon    86    77     Democratic Republic of the Congo    65
22     Czech Republic    97    50     Philippines    86    78     Sierra Leone    64
22     Finland    97    52     Cuba    85    79     Ethiopia    63
26     Argentina    96    52     Morocco    85    80     Equatorial Guinea    59

 Undecided. Pseudoscience
morpheus24
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #2 on: November 03, 2009, 07:46 PM »


it should be studied in reference to relativity and cetris paribus
mekuslogan
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #3 on: November 03, 2009, 07:47 PM »

Nope. Its rather inherent greed and selfishness bringing about both financial amd moral corruption. Remove those and Africa is ready to go.
naliakar
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #4 on: November 03, 2009, 08:08 PM »

What is IQ in any Nigerian language.
SEFAGO (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #5 on: November 03, 2009, 08:58 PM »

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Nope. Its rather inherent greed and selfishness bringing about both financial amd moral corruption. Remove those and Africa is ready to go.

you are helping prove the assertion of the above ppl. You forgot that other countries are corrupt too. China is very corrupt and they are growing rapidly.
mekuslogan
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #6 on: November 03, 2009, 09:26 PM »

Quote from: SEFAGO on November 03, 2009, 08:58 PM
you are helping prove the assertion of the above ppl. You forgot that other countries are corrupt too. China is very corrupt and they are growing rapidly.

One glaring difference between China and Nigeria is that corrupt people are punished even by hanging. This is not the case in Nigeria. So I dare say that MORAL corruption (for e.g., not meting out the appropriate punishments to culprits) contributes to our worsening financial corruption. It is possible you have a low IQ. Prove me wrong. I do NOT have a low IQ because  for the past 6 years, I have attending classes with Europeans, Americans, Chinese, Indians, Latinos and other Africans and I have been at the top 5. Next to these is the idea of putting incompetent people to positions due to tribalism and the stupid quota system. Are those also in China?
SEFAGO (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #7 on: November 03, 2009, 09:58 PM »

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One glaring difference between China and Nigeria is that corrupt people are punished even by hanging. This is not the case in Nigeria. So I dare say that MORAL corruption (for e.g., not meting out the appropriate punishments to culprits) contributes to our worsening financial corruption. It is possible you have a low IQ. Prove me wrong. I do NOT have a low IQ because  for the past 6 years, I have attending classes with Europeans, Americans, Chinese, Indians, Latinos and other Africans and I have been at the top 5. Next to these is the idea of putting incompetent people to positions due to tribalism and the stupid quota system. Are those also in China?

you haven't identified what is really wrong with nigeria- just one subset of it which is ok. Not just corruption but the lack of industry. I am going to sleep anyways. China has a shitload more problems than you think, find out about them.
morpheus24
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #8 on: November 03, 2009, 11:25 PM »

Quote from: mekuslogan on November 03, 2009, 09:26 PM
One glaring difference between China and Nigeria is that corrupt people are punished even by hanging. This is not the case in Nigeria. So I dare say that MORAL corruption (for e.g., not meting out the appropriate punishments to culprits) contributes to our worsening financial corruption. It is possible you have a low IQ. Prove me wrong. I do NOT have a low IQ because  for the past 6 years, I have attending classes with Europeans, Americans, Chinese, Indians, Latinos and other Africans and I have been at the top 5. Next to these is the idea of putting incompetent people to positions due to tribalism and the stupid quota system. Are those also in China?

Like I said RELATIVITY AND CETRIS PARIBUS!!!
mekuslogan
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #9 on: November 03, 2009, 11:30 PM »

Sefago,

I know about China more than you can ever imagine. Now, assuming that you have a low IQ but you have money (like Nigeria), what do you do? Get people with the high IQ to work for you. Has Nigeria done that? Yes, on many different ocassions. Have things improved? No.

Conclusion: It is not a matter of IQ. It is our unworkable system which even frustrates foreigners working amongst us. Do you not see that many of the Nigeria-owned private investments are working relatively well in Nigeria? Do these private Nigerians have higher IQs than the civil servant Nigerians? No.
redsun (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #10 on: November 03, 2009, 11:31 PM »

http://www.iqtestforfree.com/

Test yours for free.
SEFAGO (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #11 on: November 04, 2009, 01:00 AM »

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I know about China more than you can ever imagine. Now, assuming that you have a low IQ but you have money (like Nigeria), what do you do? Get people with the high IQ to work for you. Has Nigeria done that? Yes, on many different ocassions. Have things improved? No.

Conclusion: It is not a matter of IQ. It is our unworkable system which even frustrates foreigners working amongst us. Do you not see that many of the Nigeria-owned private investments are working relatively well in Nigeria? Do these private Nigerians have higher IQs than the civil servant Nigerians? No.

Ok, agreed. But that is one part, and the most important part, i would admit. The one I am looking for is the one that would still occur even we have a stable government, and no trouble.

By the way, I apologize, for my rudeness, I have just been have very bad month in school and taking it on random people I find on nairaland
gadogado (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #12 on: November 04, 2009, 04:40 AM »

@poster

i beleive so, i think sub-saharan africa lacks what they call human capital which translates to mean low IQ. Its quite obvious unless you want to engage in some denial. if you examine the situation, the areas with the smartest people are the most developed places on earth.simple.
JosBoy4Lif (m)
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #13 on: November 04, 2009, 05:04 AM »

Quote from: gadogado on November 04, 2009, 04:40 AM
@poster

i beleive so, i think sub-saharan africa lacks what they call human capital which translates to mean low IQ. Its quite obvious unless you want to engage in some denial. if you examine the situation, the areas with the smartest people are the most developed places on earth.simple.


China and India just to name a few right?
9jaganja
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #14 on: November 04, 2009, 05:11 AM »

It's more to this than just listing nation's IQs. How can you calculate the average IQ of a nation? I mean wow!!!!! How about China? over 1billion people and they managed to calculate the average IQ? I showed a little kid a something he has never seen before, then I asked him, what is this? and the kid replied saying I don't know. Does that mean the kid has low IQ? Oyimbo men are still the most racist pigs on this planet. They need a survey to show they are smarter than the rest, they need a survey to show they are happier than the rest, they need a survey to show they are  more desirable than the rest. Always needing a survey to show they are better than the rest. Stop posting all this generalization thread. It doesn't help. These surveys are inductive and they are generalization at it's best. I gathered four apples and they all turned out red. Does that mean all apples are red? Hell NO!!!!  
Bishopking
Re: Is Low IQ Responsible For Sub-Saharan African Countries Underdevelopment?
« #15 on: November 04, 2009, 10:55 AM »

TO ANSWERTHIS QUESTION, ONE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT MANY THINGS THAT PROMOTE LOW IQ OR UNDERDEVELOPING IN COUNTRIES.

we need to ask ourselves: is IQ really transferable genetically? are recently rapidly developing countries suddenly acquiring very great IQ? are vast  number of people in say china having low iq because they are poor? is the development of countries in africa a true reflection of IQ of the generality of the people or the IQ of people in power or authority?

I will want to tackle the last question from the perspective of the Nigerian's 'whom you know' syndrom when it comes to getting opportunities and getting to position where one can effectively make changes in the system. Historically, the wealth of african countries had been plundered by these so called 'high IQ' people of northern europe and america. People were taken en mass from the continent over hundreds of years, the nations were colonized and the 'colonial masters' wrongly amalgamate people of different 'genetic' make-up, religious beliefs, aspirations, philosophy and development ideologies together in such a way that any synergy resulting will be to cause chaos, disaffection and self destruction. Let us take the case of Nigeria as a case study. After independence, Nigeria was lead by succession of probably (almost certainly) low-IQ millitary men who were out to save situation in the first place. However, due to the lack of check and balances, they perpetuated themselves in power and continue with plundering any economic opportunity that might be left after their master seemed to have gone or the new opportunities being created by the hardworking people of the country. It must be mentioned that crisis fuelled by the differences among the people was a big issue. The new nation engaged in three years of fracticidal wars further destroying any platform for collective development efforts.

Over the years, due to lack of proper checks and balances, the low-IQ people in power ensured their perpetuality by surrounding themselves by their family members or people who they know as weaklings (that dare not challenge them for any ideological shift). In fact, they extend this to every sector of Nigerian political and socio-economic system. It is not unusual for children of such people to publicly say (in schools and social gathering) that they are going to be in charge of the country whether 'you like it or not' even when they are not intellectually prepared or qualified to do that a the expense of high IQ ones. They are everywhere destroying whatever effort the creative sections of the country are putting in this seeming vast blackhole.

if it was just IQ that ensure development, then nigeria should have or will develop just like any nation because high IQ people are everywhere. But from observation, high IQ people of nigeria seem to have been forever screen away from the scene in order to ensure that personal or sectional interests are protected. And Nigeria is a true picture of many countries in Africa.
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