Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)

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folami86
Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« on: November 07, 2009, 05:52 AM »

Why Muslims always yell "Allah -u-Akbar" before they kill? 
Isn't Allah a God of Peace?

http://spitfiremurphy.wordpress.com/2009/11/06/ft-hood-shooter-hassan-shouted-allahu-akbar-before-opening-fire/
dayokanu (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #1 on: November 07, 2009, 07:45 AM »

His own version of Jihad. This is someone who was sponsored by the US government to school now turned around and fed them with bullets.

The dead included a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home, a man who quit a furniture company job to join the military about a year ago, a newlywed who had served in Iraq

May his Soul burn in hell and roast on the electric chair or lethal injection
luvola
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #2 on: November 07, 2009, 07:52 AM »

islam means peace ! lmao . foolish slave of allah
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #3 on: November 07, 2009, 10:50 AM »

If G. Bush a christian had not conquered Iraq would this have happened,  yesterday an army Major shot dead 7 people in texas,


.'verily they (the christians) are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not' Quran 2:12
yousouph (m)
Islam
« #4 on: November 07, 2009, 11:17 AM »

The Major act of killing has not portrays Islam as religion of peace.
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #5 on: November 07, 2009, 02:01 PM »

You moron expect us to be quiet when conquered or oppressed ? You must be dreaming, didn't jesus said turn your other cheek, why did U.S invade Afghanistan after 9/11, christianity my foot
folami86
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #6 on: November 07, 2009, 02:56 PM »

Quote from: dayokanu on November 07, 2009, 07:45 AM
His own version of Jihad. This is someone who was sponsored by the US government to school now turned around and fed them with bullets.

The dead included a pregnant woman who was preparing to return home, a man who quit a furniture company job to join the military about a year ago, a newlywed who had served in Iraq

May his Soul burn in hell and roast on the electric chair or lethal injection
very well said.

how come the "peaceful" muslims not speaking out against his actions? their silence is deafening and so i wonder if he was motivated by his religious zealousy.
folami86
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #7 on: November 07, 2009, 02:58 PM »

Quote from: Abuzola on November 07, 2009, 02:01 PM
You moron expect us to be quiet when conquered or oppressed ? You must be dreaming, didn't jesus said turn your other cheek, why did U.S invade Afghanistan after 9/11, christianity my foot
Quote from: Abuzola on November 07, 2009, 10:50 AM
If G. Bush a christian had not conquered Iraq would this have happened, yesterday an army Major shot dead 7 people in texas,
.'verily they (the christians) are the ones who make mischief, but they perceive not' Quran 2:12
Quote from: luvola on November 07, 2009, 07:52 AM
islam means peace ! lmao . foolish slave of allah
please help me to understand you
*Hauwa*
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #8 on: November 07, 2009, 03:55 PM »

demented terrorist Hasan. May he rot in ajana and may he never see his 72 virgins!
God bless our troops, SEMPER FI
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #9 on: November 07, 2009, 06:29 PM »

Hauwa you dey craze ? how dare you talk to a martyr like that, if you wish to live another 100 years be my guest, the soil is eager to devour you folks flesh and skin.
*Hauwa*
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #10 on: November 07, 2009, 07:00 PM »

na you dey CRAZE 1million times. may jihadist sword and gun fire that your hand wey you use type my name. onyeara jihad. martyr my foot and shithole. may demented man hasan have jail boys shove his abunna in his mouth for him to eat and have nothing for his 72 virgins.
Now Abuzzy, get thee behind me onyeberiberi Tongue

Quote from: Abuzola on November 07, 2009, 06:29 PM
Hauwa you dey craze ? how dare you talk to a martyr like that, if you wish to live another 100 years be my guest, the soil is eager to devour you folks flesh and skin.

support our TROOPS. SEMPER FI
luvola
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #11 on: November 07, 2009, 10:13 PM »

@ abuzombi - u caling hazan a matry for kiling 13pples. may u rot in hell
reindeer
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #12 on: November 07, 2009, 11:28 PM »

alahu akbar?
is that a surprise?

I thought it was natural for inhuman,barbaric indoctrinated monsters to yell that just before offering sacrifices to his/her bloodthirsty god.
dayokanu (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #13 on: November 07, 2009, 11:37 PM »

I really appreciate abuzola gut to say what others have in mind but won't say out
Abuzola (m)
No subject
« #14 on: November 08, 2009, 01:03 AM »

Hmmm

@hauwa- may God guide you to the right path amin, a prayer for you,'In the name of Allah, Oh Allah this stupid slave of yours seems to be highly infiltrated by shaitan, have mercy on her  and guide her, if not she is already a lost sheep, thank you Lord for i know you will answer my prayer, thank you'
dayokanu (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #15 on: November 08, 2009, 07:07 AM »

Thank God he did it in Texas where the death penalty is in effect.

I suggest they kill him slowly over 72days. a 5minutes death is too good for this guy.
chic2pimp (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #16 on: November 08, 2009, 07:36 AM »

Quote from: dayokanu on November 08, 2009, 07:07 AM
Thank God he did it in Texas where the death penalty is in effect.

I suggest they kill him slowly over 72days. a 5minutes death is too good for this guy.
Make that one year(365 days). 72 days is too short.
dayokanu (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #17 on: November 08, 2009, 11:06 PM »

72 days would be perfect one for each virgin
folami86
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #18 on: November 09, 2009, 05:12 AM »

Quote from: Abuzola on November 08, 2009, 01:03 AM
Hmmm
@hauwa- may God guide you to the right path amin, a prayer for you,'In the name of Allah, Oh Allah this stupid slave of yours seems to be highly infiltrated by shaitan, have mercy on her and guide her, if not she is already a lost sheep, thank you Lord for i know you will answer my prayer, thank you'
i have read some of your posts and it's obvious that you cannot answer any kind of question that is being asked. you need guidance from your elders
olabowale (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #19 on: November 09, 2009, 06:06 AM »

the lone gunman syndrome is as amerian as "mom", "hot dog" and "apple pie".  His shouting Allahu Akbar is synonemous to person in the any town or city usa saying "yoo!" people in this usa, are inertly violent and it is the hallmark of the citizenry. if this man kills because he is muslim, one will see all muslims killing people. but that is not the case, since some of the military people who spoke up and condemned him are muslims.

while the african pundits of nairaland are having a field day on Islam, i wonder what they say about the colorado high school people killing their school mates in columbine? or what the Virginia Tech student did, or what happened in the carolinas, or other places, including the Orlando Florida office shooting this past friday? each is a lone shooter or just few people (max 5 people as i give all leeway to see if muslims will fit this profile), and we dont see that in any muslim society.

america unless those who are denier of truth is known for its violence and sexual crimes. just because a person is muslim does not mean that he did it for islam, but just his americana, regardless of how many Allahu Akbar he shouted. Laa ilaha ilallah is what a person who is dying wishes to have on his lips. as I personally blame the guy, being extreme in my view, i think his action is contrary to islam, and there is no justification for it, especially with all his matriculations, he should have stayed above the frays, fightig his demon in a different way; patience and prayers.

afterall, joseph (as) prayed that Allah does not let him commit fornication.
olabowale (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #20 on: November 09, 2009, 06:08 AM »

going  to prison instead, where Allah elevated him.
luvola
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #21 on: November 09, 2009, 10:16 AM »

he is a jihadist.period
luvola
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #22 on: November 09, 2009, 10:19 AM »

@ olabowale - but your islam brethren abuzombi called him an hero of islam
olabowale (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #23 on: November 09, 2009, 01:39 PM »

i dont know any abuzombi. islam is a religion that people are permitted to have opinion, the reason ahadith came about; questions, statement that needed correction because it is not the correct position.

luvola, the foundamentals of islam is uniform among muslims, knowledge and emotion are not. when tragic incidences happen, at least in the usa, i dont see you saying its based on religion, except when it is muslim that commits the herrendous act.

most christians say jesus when thy commit sins; at least sexual illegality. is jesus participation or they are doing it for Jesus?

i dont speak like this, but this sitation warrants such an example!
*Hauwa*
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #24 on: November 09, 2009, 08:25 PM »


Hmmm

@Abuzola- may God guide you to the right path amen, a prayer for you,'In the name of God, Oh this slave of yours seems to be highly infiltrated by satanic jihadist, have mercy on him and guide him, if not he is already a lost sheep, thank you Lord for i know you will answer my prayer, thank you'

dayokanu (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #25 on: November 10, 2009, 07:17 AM »

Fort Hood gunman had told US military colleagues that infidels should have their throats cut
Major Nidal Malik Hasan, the gunman who killed 13 at America's Fort Hood military base, once gave a lecture to other doctors in which he said non-believers should be beheaded and have boiling oil poured down their throats.

He also told colleagues at America's top military hospital that non-Muslims were infidels condemned to hell who should be set on fire. The outburst came during an hour-long talk Hasan, an Army psychiatrist, gave on the Koran in front of dozens of other doctors at Walter Reed Army Medical Centre in Washington DC, where he worked for six years before arriving at Fort Hood in July
.

Colleagues had expected a discussion on a medical issue but were instead given an extremist interpretation of the Koran, which Hasan appeared to believe.

It was the latest in a series of "red flags" about his state of mind that have emerged since the massacre at Fort Hood, America's largest military installation, on Thursday.
Hasan, armed with two handguns including a semi-automatic pistol, walked into a processing centre for soldiers deploying to Iraq and Afghanistan, where he killed 13 and injured more than 30.
Fellow doctors have recounted how they were repeatedly harangued by Hasan about religion and that he openly claimed to be a "Muslim first and American second."
One Army doctor who knew him said a fear of appearing discriminatory against a Muslim soldier had stopped fellow officers from filing formal complaints.
Another, Dr Val Finnell, who took a course with him in 2007 at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Maryland, did complain about Hasan's "anti-American rants." He said: "The system is not doing what it's supposed to do. He at least should have been confronted about these beliefs, told to cease and desist, and to shape up or ship out. I really questioned his loyalty."
Selena Coppa, an activist for Iraq Veterans Against the War, said: "This man was a psychiatrist and was working with other psychiatrists every day and they failed to notice how deeply disturbed someone right in their midst was."
One of Hasan's neighbours described how on the day of the massacre, about 9am, he gave her a Koran and told her: "I'm going to do good work for God" before leaving for the base.
A civilian police officer who shot him, bringing the rampage to an end, said Hasan appeared "calm" during the massacre, hiding behind a telephone pole and shooting fellow soldiers in the back as they tried to get away.
"He was firing at people as they were trying to run and hide, said Sgt Mark Todd. "Then he turned and fired a couple of rounds at me. I didn't hear him say a word, he just turned and fired."
Hasan flinched after he was shot and slid down against the pole still clutching his gun, which had a laser sight on it. The officer kicked away the weapon and handcuffed him.
He said: "The guy was breathing, his eyes were blinking. I could tell that he was fading out and he didn't say anything. He was just kind of blinking."
Senator Joe Lieberman, who chairs the US Senate Committee on Homeland Security, said there had been "strong warning signs" that Hasan was an "Islamist extremist".
The committee would ask "whether the Army missed warning signs that should have led them to essentially discharge him, he said. He added: "The US
Army has to have zero tolerance. He should have been gone."
But General George Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, said it was "speculation" that military authorities failed to pick up on warning signs. "I don't want to say that we missed it," he said.
Asked if military authorities had missed warning signs Gen Casey, the Army's Chief of Staff, added: "We have to go back and look at ourselves ,and ask ourselves the hard questions. Are we doing the right things? We will learn from this.
"It's too early to draw conclusions but we will ask ourselves the hard questions about what we are doing and the changes we should make as a result of this."
yeswecan
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #26 on: November 10, 2009, 10:17 PM »

Abuzola you are a terrorist
Abuzola (m)
Subject ? No subject
« #27 on: November 11, 2009, 01:02 AM »

Huh ?
muhsin (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #28 on: November 11, 2009, 12:46 PM »

This really is a sad story to Americans especially family members of the deceased and the wounded soldiers. I kinda feel their pain.

Above notwithstanding, after reading the story thoroughly I nearly concluded that Major Hasan’s action was triggered by the same recipients of his shootings. The report says he was mocked by some other soldiers because of his religion. Why then? I think, as they say in medias, America gives equality to “all” its citizen; and is he not one?

But the unanswered question remains: did they deserve his (Major Hasan) response? Let us wait to read/hear about the motive that carried his guts away, we can then fathom the whole drama.

Lastly, it’s a well known fact that American invasion of Iraq as well as Afghanistan is unjustifiable; it’s even condemnable. I kinda blame Obama’s administration for failing to strategize better means to end this loose-loose operation. Both American (plus NATO) and Iraqis or Afghans are loosing lives. And I believe he (Obama) could do better than he’s doing but…

dayokanu (m)
Re: Before Killing 13 People He Shouted "allah-u-akbar" (god Is Great)
« #29 on: November 11, 2009, 08:04 PM »

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Above notwithstanding, after reading the story thoroughly I nearly concluded that Major Hasan’s action was triggered by the same recipients of his shootings. The report says he was mocked by some other soldiers because of his religion. Why then? I think, as they say in medias, America gives equality to “all” its citizen; and is he not one?

Its so sad the lenght you go to defend your murderous brother.

Including the pregnant woman and her fetus mocked your brother right?
Abuzola (m)
Subject ? No subject
« #30 on: November 11, 2009, 10:10 PM »

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