Visa Lottery: Modern Day Slavery?

Basic secondary school economics. Laws of demand and suppply also apply to Labor which is a factor of production. Labor will move to where the remuneration is best. Nothing anybody can do to stop that. It has been and will continue to be. And you can't really blame people for wanting to better their lots in life.Can you? Its not only USA that has such a scheme, Canada,Australia,Germany,New Zealand,UK, the list goes on and on.

I'm afraid, I don't agree that the visa lottery is a modern day slavery or slavery in any form. The US visa lottery has given people the opportunity to school and work in the US which ordinarily you have to give an arm and leg to achieve. How many people can afford school fees overseas moreso when the cost for a foreign student is even twice and sometimes thrice as much as citizens pay. But with the visa/green card lottery you can pay like you are a citizen and still have the opportunity to work to defray school and living expenses.

If we can get the best of education and other basics, who would be thinking of applying for a visa lottery? The US government has given the developing and underdeveloped countries oppotunities to better their lots and we call it slavery?

Trish,

What I was thinking and also believed is that these countries called (Developed) trying to help the under-developed ones can't do them for free.

They knew quite well that after your stay and school, you'll surely stay behind in their country and they take it back by working for them though you will be paid but the knowledge will never leave their country because you on your part will not want to leave because of the pastures.

After many years of lottery they could have pilled up all tribes through out the globe and thus became powerful than any nation because they at that point, had every thing to fight any nation since they had their people thus having their knowledge.

So Trish, I think if all these people come back home it won't be regarded as slavery but the development as you said.  Secondly, remember that in the olden days once people has been sold they have gone forever.  So what do you think now?

Parole officer?  What does this have to do with the Visa Lottery? 

("In criminal justice systems, parole is the supervised release of a prisoner before the completion of their sentence. Wikipedia")

I think the American Visa Lottery programme is not a modern day slavery, and i don't see any reason why it should be. They say a man who think about 2day and 4gets 2morrow is a foolish man, Americans do and make things in a way that even in ages to come that particular thing will still be practiced, unlike Nigeria. Nigeria is a country blessed with not only rich Natural resources but also gifted and talented individuals, let me refer u guys to the man who made the fastest computer in history, the guy is a pure Nigerian to the core.......and we still have many others with great talents and brain even more dan he's. Probabely the guy migrated to America to study or maybe tru this Visa lottery, there he made his dreams and actualized his goals, had it been he remained in Nigerian maybe he could'nt have made the fastest computer in History. My point is Nigeria has the manpower and also the resources but we have no sence of direction to think of the future, that is the simple problem. So plz just think of the American Visa Lottery Programme as a welcomed development, nobody wants to be in darkness 4ever....Wot i know is that one day Nigeria will have a leader that can take us to the promised land, till then let us make use of the opputunity at hand.  Finally, remember wot our elders say: If one road is closed look 4 another open road, Is not wise for a man to stand in one position while watching a Masquerade else he will see nothin..........Peace

Those in Nigeria are in darkness  . Common, what are you saying. American their America also started somewhere. They didnt run out of their country, when there were problems, especially the epidemic during the industrial age. They developed themselves, even though they were having problems during industrialization they didnt give up, they struggled hard. Have you studied American History before?
Especially during the era of Industrialization. Please get your facts straight.

A modern day slavery? Depends on the purpose pf the migration. If its for greener pastures in a strugglers mode (Its slavery), if its for greener pasture in an expatriate mode (its not), For futher studies (Its not). For other missions that do not involve struggling to survive (its not).

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I kind of understand the point loomboc is trying to make. Loads of foreigners,  living in other parts of the world do not get the recognition they deserve, nor get paid what they are really worth.

These developed countries open their doors to foreigners because someone needs to do the dirty work that their own people do not want to do. Examples in Britain include the west indians and asians that were brought over to reconstruct the country after the war, the recent EU expansion that allowed the further 10 countries to join partly in the hope that they would cover the menial jobs that their people refuse to do, etc. These people never get paid the same wages as there British counterpart.

In most jobs foreigners don't even get paid the same rate as their British counterpart. Even a lot of people in managerial positions know that the white guy under him usually gets paid more than he does. Chances of promotion are usually slim and non-existent.   

Nigeria is a country blessed by God with good brain. People like to study, even to the extent of acquiring one, two or even ten degrees, yet don't get any recognition, and have to make do with low paid security jobs, cleaning,  driving a taxi, etc. This in turn is the reason why a lot of them turn to fraud to make ends meet.

A lot of them cannot contemplate returning to Nigeria because they have nothing to take back home, hence remain in the vicious cycle of working every God-given unsocial hours to make ends meet.

They have no one to turn to for help because there is no family in UK, it is everyman for himself, a dog-eat-dog world. Aunties, uncles, brothers. sisters, relatives, etc who constantly pester your parents back at home to send you over only need you to come and look after their kids and do all their housework, and would not hesitate too chuck you out if you cannot do this for them. They would have called your parents back home to lie to them thay you've been staying out late or keeping bad company or you have seduced their man/woman, etc. A lot of the [/b][/i]nice[b][i] ones do not even bother to come and pick you from the airport, telling you to find your way to theirs.  Some give numbers that they cannot be reached on or simply switch off their phone, etc. We all know their is a lot of sad stories out there so i would not bore you on.  Perhaps someone should start another forum to hear people's experiences with relatives of when they first arrived from Nigeria.

Its not modern slavery at all.
In the days of slavery,u're forced into the ship,on to the plantation.u're not allowed to go back.REMEMBER kUNTA kUNTE?
With visa lottery,u fill the form,pray to win it,throw a party when u do,and off to the US u go.then u send money home through Western Union.
You're free to pack your load and go back if u so wish.u're not bound by chain.
No doubt many lives have been change positively by it.{education,career,etc}
Somebody aptly observed,that in the days of slavery u need a whip to drive people into the ship,but today,u'll need whip to drive people from the ship bound for the US.

Hmmm, sometimes people wish to be heard. EDV Lottery is a God sent opportunity. Lots and lots of people in Africa have benefited immensely from it. Yes, the US is gathering the best brains for the future. So, whats' wrong with that. Africa (including Naija) is a land of immeasurable suffering. Hard -to-come by opportunities. So, our people who migrated have found it a lot easier to eke out a living faster than living in Africa.

Some one walked into my office during d US visa lottery period and said " our Bishop (Oyedepo) forbids the EDV Lottery  that it's slavery". What modern day nonsense!
In fact, I no fit saut.

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