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methodman (m)
Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« on: January 13, 2007, 10:46 PM »

 Embarrassed Help Nairalanders!
My business is in mess.
For the second time this month,my  account has been hacked into.
Last time it was $262,now it is $89.

Am i the only person experiencing this or what.
I don't know what to do.
please help me.
I think it is high time i close my  account totally.
layi (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #1 on: January 14, 2007, 01:57 AM »

I suspect 2 things.
1. You have a keylogger or 1 of the variants of the powerful PRORAT called Silo stealthly installed on your system. The hacker has gotten your login details and probably email pass with which s/he accesses your account.

2. You have a trojan installed. It could be an undetected version of the win32.grams trojan
These stuffs are used widely nowadays to steal .  server cannot be hacked. If u were hacked. It was at your own client side (your PC). the win32.grams hides on your system and waits for you to login into your  account before it is triggered. Once launched (stealthly) it open your  spend page and spend you account balance less a few dollars to some pre-configured  account. It is an automated thief.

You can change your  account details not just passphrase. Then always login using firefox because most trojan use IE exploits. Also scan your system for keyloggers but sincerely some virus are undetected wit AntiTrojans or AVs,  Its best u use a new system or format your system.
methodman (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #2 on: January 14, 2007, 11:11 AM »

Thanks layi.
I always notice that it is when i log into my  act and after like 5 mins,the  is gone.
What can i do to prevent this from happening? Am troubled  Huh
layi (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #3 on: January 14, 2007, 11:36 AM »

Its not a keylogger problem else i'ld have told u to start using the SRK function on  site.

From your post above its obvious your system has been infected with an undetected version of win32.grams trojan or its variants.

In the mean time use another PC to log into your  account. Antivirus wont detect it. Its a dangerous trojan. Formattin your hard drive might work but not guaranteed.

Change PC and report the recieving  account #.

You probably opened a trojaned attachment or visitied a trojaned site. Autosurf admins infect people easily. Sorry
methodman (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #4 on: January 14, 2007, 12:09 PM »

Thanks layi.
Am indeed grateful.
please do you know how i can delete this trojan of a thing.
Am scared of loosing all my .please help.
layi (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #5 on: January 14, 2007, 01:07 PM »

You can't delete what you can't detect. Scan your system first and let me know if that helps or not. I hope u have an updated Antivirus Prog.?
egoldman (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #6 on: January 14, 2007, 01:29 PM »

changing your PC is quite good,but not really compulsory ,because even after you change your pc,if u still open emails that appear to be from  and click on any link in it ,it would expose you to same problem,
   do these things 1,formate your PC,never ever click on any emails that says its from  and wants u to update your account by visiting some links,for your info , would never send u any link by email ,or any attachments,when u get any email with these stuff ,don't click on any link in it ,
    2,i don't know if you have set your  account security settings to high,though i suspect you have not done so ,if you do this ,anytime u log into your account ,the one time pincode must be sent to your email account on file in your  account profile,and this pin must be entered before your u or anyone gets access to your account on that PC from whicyh u have tried to login at that point in time .
   let me make it clear that even in a situation where keylogger have been installed in your system,if u have set your security level to high ,the scammer would still not be able to get access to your account,because anytime he enters your login details correctly ,the pincode would be sent to your email id and the oneway he would be able to get access to your account is if he has access to your email id for him to able to get the pincode .
    now here is what u should do,formate your PC ,install antivirus,antispyware and firewall.I use avg commercial edition,you can contact me for the license code to crack it  Grin or it will  be disabled after 30 days  Cry , for antyspyware i use avg antyspyware commercial edition too,again if u want to use it past the 30 days trial,then contact me for the code  Grin Grin
, then go for the free or pro edition of zonewalarm firewall,if u opt for the pro edition it would work for 15 days free and then revert to free edition ,to continue using the pro edition ,contact me for the code  Grin Grin
    do not ever trust the windows firewall as its almost useless ,i have tried it and confirmed that it hardly protects PC from anything .
   Finlay but not the least ,don't use free email for your  account,don't use companies like yahoo and hotmail ,these are easily hacked and your pincode will be exposed ,rather use gmail if u must use free email or ask your service provider to provide u with one ,those are more secured than the well known yahoo and hotmail which attracts the attention of most Naughty Boys  Cry Cry
   OH i nearly forget ,do not use same email id u use for  account for other stuff like paid email and so on and don't use it to post in forums either,if possible ,use it only for  account,also check that email from time to time (daily is better) to see if u have any notice from  about account profile update that is not authorized by you ,this always happens when someone tries to check account security details.
   i hope these would keep u more secUred with your  account than u used to be.I do not claim that these would keep u 100% safe (this is never possible online) but will keep u safe most times and greatly minimize your exposure to getting hacked .
   
layi (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #7 on: January 14, 2007, 01:57 PM »

@egoldman
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let me make it clear that even in a situation where keylogger have been installed in your system,if u have set your security level to high ,the scammer would still not be able to get access to your account,because anytime he enters your login details correctly ,the pincode would be sent to your email id and the oneway he would be able to get access to your account is if he has access to your email id for him to able to get the pincode .

Thats not true. With a keylogger, the scammer hacker can view logs of all your login details (both email and ) except you are never going to check your email again which seems impractical afterall  is not all you do online.


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now here is what u should do,formate your PC ,install antivirus,antispyware and firewall.
This is good but believe me Naughty Boys write custom trojans that cannot be detected by AV, AT or prevented by firewalls. Remember AVs work by checking files against signatures copies in the database. A trojan written today cannot be detected by antiviruses until a few weeks/months time when its detected and reported to AV companies, then databases are updated.
Naughty Boys write trojans using vbscript and hex codes and then use binders and crypters to make it undetectable. the most common method of infection is on webpages (usually hosted on russian dedicated servers). They use exploits to stealthly instal and run this program (bypassing your antivirus) when you visit the webpage. like i said in earlier post. Autosurf admins are notorious for this.
Only special programs like Lockdown (which uses generics and memory in scans) can detect trojans.

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  Finlay but not the least ,don't use free email for your  account,don't use companies like yahoo and hotmail ,these are easily hacked and your pincode will be exposed ,rather use gmail if u must use free email or ask your service provider to provide u with one ,those are more secured than the well known yahoo and hotmail which attracts the attention of most Naughty Boys   
   OH i nearly forget ,do not use same email id u use for  account for other stuff like paid email and so on and don't use it to post in forums either,if possible ,use it only for  account
I agree with you on this because admins of all these paid-to programs are 99% scammers. They collect your emails knowing you all have  and they sometimes use bruteforce to crack you email passwords. Bruteforces can crack free email easily because of the loose security . Yahoo and Gmail has beefed up their security however and you now have to enter Turin numbers after a few failed attempts. That is a setback to bruteforcers.

All said and done go through his post again and do a search on win32.grams. You'll see the mechanism. win32.grams steals your  like 1-3 minutes after loggin into the account. Its automated.
kfasian
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #8 on: January 14, 2007, 07:31 PM »

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layi (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #9 on: January 23, 2007, 09:33 AM »

On a second thot, you need not throw ur system away.
The trojan file is usually found in C:\\Windows\system32\ so delete it. Norton Antivirus (the best Wink )will pick this file up as a virus now but it can't be deleted by Norton or yourself. Since they are not protected from a name change. You chang the name and then delete it. If it still won't delete after the name change reboot and then delete it.

To prevent a reoccurence always use firefox (to avoid trojans) and SRK on  site (to avoid keyloggers).
CoolDave (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #10 on: January 23, 2007, 06:50 PM »

Hello  gurus,
I must confess,all these seem to be like I'm in the wonderlands,I used to think I'm fairly literate when it comes to Computers,but hmm,I better think twice,the likes of Layi and the Indian guy lashing out terms that could only have emanated from the blues---words like keylogger! Hmm,My hands are up in complete surrender.
I wouldnt have bothered but I am now.
May I have a coach,I mean a trustworthy coach that would teach me what  is about?
Layi,would you be willing to help me out of my Thirty years of looking for Financial breakthrough?
You may reach me at meetcooldave@yahoo.com,it would mean a lot to me if you will help me out.I have always wanted a true and sincere person to lead me.
Thanx to all.
cspear77 (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #11 on: January 23, 2007, 07:37 PM »

hi everyone,
please i have been looking forward to investing in  as i am aware it pays off at the end but i am afraid i will lose my money as i keep hearing cases of disappearance. my friend was even affected. please someone should put me through cause i am still interested in the investment. at least the safest and best way to invest in it.
layi (m)
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #12 on: January 24, 2007, 11:42 AM »

Its safe and good.
Send me an email and i'll give the best advise
opylums
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« #13 on: March 16, 2007, 01:17 PM »

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kellon
Re: Disappeared For The Second Time This Month!
« #14 on: March 16, 2007, 03:40 PM »

Hi guys,
          have been in  transaction is over two years and my  have not disappeared, i am not an expert,  but what  I did is I do not use my e-mail that I registered with  for any transactions.
         And if you what to open your  account make sure you open a new window explorer. Also make sure you always change your password frequently. these will help you also.
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