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segoye2 (m)
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We all know that for a healthy walk with God and a balanced attitude toward miracles, we should avoid setting our expectations below what God opens up to us, and we should also avoid presuming that God has to do miracles on demand if we feel strongly enough about it. True faith is confidence that God can do anything he chooses, and willingness to accept whatever he chooses.
But with the Miracles shown on every TV stations, Magazines and the rest, with lots of them happening so fast, one will not help but ask if Miracle really happen today!
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ruescho (m)
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Sorry, I only believe in miracels that happen in my life and there are many,
But not in those shown in the show of pastor Chris, who just is after our money!
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shahan (f)
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Hmmm, but that does not disprove those miracles that happen in pastor Chris' ministry.
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ruescho (m)
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Sorry, I think pasor Chris is one of the better ones,
but I don´t believe he is performing true miracles.
It´s just a show by paid actors.
Don´t u know anything is possible on TV?
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ Segoye2We all know that for a healthy walk with God and a balanced attitude toward miracles, we should avoid setting our expectations below what God opens up to us, and we should also avoid presuming that God has to do miracles on demand if we feel strongly enough about it. True faith is confidence that God can do anything he chooses, and willingness to accept whatever he chooses. Excellent point indeed. But with the Miracles shown on every TV stations, Magazines and the rest, with lots of them happening so fast, one will not help but ask if Miracle really happen today! The fact is some people believe that only God alone can work miracles. Such a belief leads to deceptions galore. There is danger in using miracles as a test of faith, or truth. Listen to what God's word says about the issue: Matthew 24:24, 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Jesus made it clear as crystal that certain false teachers would come in His name, claiming the annointing, that would be healing, and performing all sorts of things. Revelation 16:13,14, "13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." "Spirits of devils" are in fact demons using humans to decieve and distort the minds of other humans in the name of God. The only true test of faith and true religion is God's word. "If they speak not according to this word, its because there is no light in them"
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ Segoye2We all know that for a healthy walk with God and a balanced attitude toward miracles, we should avoid setting our expectations below what God opens up to us, and we should also avoid presuming that God has to do miracles on demand if we feel strongly enough about it. True faith is confidence that God can do anything he chooses, and willingness to accept whatever he chooses. Excellent point indeed. In essence true and genuine miracles do happen today, but in harmony with bible truth. But with the Miracles shown on every TV stations, Magazines and the rest, with lots of them happening so fast, one will not help but ask if Miracle really happen today! The fact is some people believe that only God alone can work miracles. Such a belief leads to deceptions galore. There is danger in using miracles as a test of faith, or truth, especially when we stop to think that Satan and his demons can also work miracles. Listen to what God's word says about the issue: Matthew 24:24, 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Jesus made it clear as crystal that certain false teachers would come in His name, claiming the annointing, that would be healing, and performing all sorts of things, but the fact remains they are Satan's agents. I know its hard to accept that because it looks so real at times. These itineray preachers, and TV evangelists make it look oh so easy.  , you really have to wonder. Revelation 16:13,14, "13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. 14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty." "Spirits of devils" are in fact demons using humans to decieve and distort the minds of other humans in the name of God. The only true test of faith and true religion is God's word. "If they speak not according to this word, its because there is no light in them"
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danniecool (m)
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My dear memebrs and guest of this lovely forum.
This is I nice topic raised by our fellow, I don't think one should start critisizing any body or Pastors here.
Yes miracle still happen today, both the one you see on TV are not planned work but they are real.
Please stop judging your fellow man.
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ Dannicool My dear memebrs and guest of this lovely forum.
This is I nice topic raised by our fellow, I don't think one should start critisizing any body or Pastors here.
Yes miracle still happen today, both the one you see on TV are not planned work but they are real.
Please stop judging your fellow man. So are you saying that we shouldn't take heed to what Jesus said about false teachers working miracles in the last days? The fact is false teachers are in abundance; and on TV itself. get real and open your eyes to reality. |
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omogenaija (f)
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since i'm still alive that means that mircales have been happening everyday, and will continue to happen in Jesus name.
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shahan (f)
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May I say this:
(a) when anyone wants to judge another pastor as fake or as a false teacher, such a person should remember that judgement awaits him as well.
(b) using some verses of Scripture to "prove" that another pastor is a false teacher without established facts is hypocrisy.
(c) those who are emphatically opposed to miracles everytime they are mentioned somehow manage to reveal that they wouldn't be able to tell a genuine one from a false one.
(d) if the complainers are not happy with the miracles occuring in others' ministries, they should get theirs and put their mouth where it belongs.
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Easyy (m)
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My dear memebrs and guest of this lovely forum.
This is I nice topic raised by our fellow, I don't think one should start critisizing any body or Pastors here.
Yes miracle still happen today, both the one you see on TV are not planned work but they are real.
Please stop judging your fellow man.
Does the word of God not tell us to judge every spirit? Miracles do happen today as someone stated earlier, I have breathe and that's a miracle but I'D like to know/meet someone who knows anyone who has actually recieved his sight from such places. There are quite a lot who have been known not to have recieved anything despite having claimed to have recieved miracles in meetings. They don't come back in public to say that they were wrong |
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yemmydavid (m)
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miracles happen every day.
please thou shall not judge ooooooooooo
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ omogenaija since i'm still alive that means that mircales have been happening everyday, and will continue to happen in Jesus name. Very much true! , what bigger miracle there is than life itself. I figure though the author of the thread had his sight on different kinds of miracles.
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Bobbyaf (m)
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May I say this: (a) when anyone wants to judge another pastor as fake or as a false teacher, such a person should remember that judgement awaits him as well. HHmmmnnn! I wonder why Jesus inserted those words of warning in scriptures if He knew that our quoting them would be seen by some as judging others? I wonder at times about your mind Shahan. (b) using some verses of Scripture to "prove" that another pastor is a false teacher without established facts is hypocrisy. The use of scripture was not mentioned as proof that certain pastors were false teachers, since I don't happen to know any of them in particular, at least not in Nigeria itself. They were mentioned just to throw "caution to the wind" The fact that Jesus warned of false teachers means that such warnings were meant to be mentioned, if not by me, but anyone else for that matter. (c) those who are emphatically opposed to miracles everytime they are mentioned somehow manage to reveal that they wouldn't be able to tell a genuine one from a false one. Like for example? I for one am for miracles. I see it everyday. I listen to christians sharing them. The latter part of your remarks would no doubt apply to you, since you seem so un-concerned that there can be false miracles, and more so because Christ mentioned a warning. (d) if the complainers are not happy with the miracles occuring in others' ministries, they should get theirs and put their mouth where it belongs. And what are those miracles might I ask? Were any mentioned here of significance? |
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Ndipe (m)
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Yeah, miracles do occur in everyday life. I am a testimony of God's love and I consider His Gift of Salvation a miracle. God's miracles manifests in various ways, like getting a new job, being blessed with a baby, having a relationship with God, etc, etc. I don't count winning the lotto as a miracle. For the preachers who do miracles on Television, if they are not conformed to the Word of God, then, that means, they are not servants of the Almighty God.
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4get_me (m)
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@Bobbyaf, A word is enough for the wise; but it appears you really don't have the wisdom that recognizes simple issues. Here's a line of concern in yours: The use of scripture was not mentioned as proof that certain pastors were false teachers, since I don't happen to know any of them in particular, at least not in Nigeria itself. They were mentioned just to throw "caution to the wind" The fact that Jesus warned of false teachers means that such warnings were meant to be mentioned, if not by me, but anyone else for that matter. It's sad that you're so acridly prejudicial in your remarks when you have no facts to sustain or defend your inferences. How can you pre-judge people that you don't happen to know at all?? And your idea that Scripture mentions anything "just to throw caution to the wind" speaks volumes to the fact that you don't know the Word. The idiom " to throw caution to the wind" simply means "to take a risk" or "to behave or speak very rashly"!! So, in your inflated ego, your own Bible speaks about an issue for the purpose of behaving or speaking very rashly?  You may think you're attacking someone, in this case shahan, and yet have no clue that your exercise is backfiring. If God is working in your heart, be careful that you don't twist or ridicule His holy Word in the hope that you're justifying your efforts in attacking someone. |
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shahan (f)
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@4get_me, Once again, thank you so much. Just leave the rest to the Lord Jesus - He knows how to handle such issues of prejudice and convoluted idioms. Praise Him for the miracle you have personally experienced in your life. God bless.  |
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segoye2 (m)
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@ All,
Thanks for all the wonderful comments and talks. Though sometimes we over reacted to situations and can't help but voice out our spritual stand.
I will like to note some comments here that our being alive today is a miracle; yes it is a miracle but were they the miracles we read about on the papers? watch in TV / video tapes? With the scripture quoted eealier on the thread, And with the scriptural knowledge we got, how do we interpret or understanding the passage?
I will in miracles, but not in Movies, or Well written journals, I don't know if you do.
Meanwhile, do you have any miracle you want to share on this thread? apart from the gift of live given us by God? Tell us something more real.
@ Bobbyaf, Shashan, Ndipe, Ruesco, Danieecool, YemmyDavid and the rest,
Your comment are real great.
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@Bobbyaf,
A word is enough for the wise; but it appears you really don't have the wisdom that recognizes simple issues. Here's a line of concern in yours: Now I don't have the wisdom? And you do? Quote from: Bobbyaf on Today at 02:33:04 AM
The use of scripture was not mentioned as proof that certain pastors were false teachers, since I don't happen to know any of them in particular, at least not in Nigeria itself. They were mentioned just to throw "caution to the wind" The fact that Jesus warned of false teachers means that such warnings were meant to be mentioned, if not by me, but anyone else for that matter. Precisely! Let me repeat my use of scripture was not to judge individuals or persons I do not know, but was used to bring over a general point, that false teachers are for real who use miracles to decieve. If you or Shahan cannot understand something as simple s that, then so be it. It's sad that you're so acridly prejudicial in your remarks when you have no facts to sustain or defend your inferences. How can you pre-judge people that you don't happen to know at all?? You know what is sad? You and your friends on this forum who think you own the forum. You feel as if anything I say must be seen from your eyes only. Don't even menton being prejudicial, because that is exactly what you're displaying right this minute with your constant nagging and fussing over nothing. Guys like you when faced with opposition tend to behave like this anyway, so I am not the least surprised. If you were a real christian you'D show more grace, rather than attack concepts you find difficult to accept. And your idea that Scripture mentions anything "just to throw caution to the wind" speaks volumes to the fact that you don't know the Word. The idiom "to throw caution to the wind" simply means "to take a risk" or "to behave or speak very rashly"!! So, in your inflated ego, your own Bible speaks about an issue for the purpose of behaving or speaking very rashly? Thanks for the correction about the use of the phrase. Not sure why I used that phrase anyway. The point still stands however, that false teachers are out there and we must be careful how they use miracles to decieve. You may think you're attacking someone, in this case shahan, and yet have no clue that your exercise is backfiring. If God is working in your heart, be careful that you don't twist or ridicule His holy Word in the hope that you're justifying your efforts in attacking someone. Listen to me carefully Malik, if you have nothing good to say keep your mouth shut. Stop spreading lies about my attacking Shahan. You seem to be a trouble maker with nothing constructive to do. Why not add to the thread rather than come seeking trouble? Oppose if you will, and I welcome it, but never attempt to allign my character. It only goes to show that you have no defence, but can only resort to character assasination. If you, or Shahan can't stand the heat leave the kitchen. I will not be apart of your clique on this forum, of people who have no mind of ther own, and are afraid to say no when its called for, and I will speak my conscience whenever, and wherever it is called for. Have a productive day! |
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gbade. x (m)
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some high-class bitching going on 'ere. . .
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mrpataki (m)
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Sometimes it is good to answer a fool according to his folly!  But in the case of bobbyaf, the opposite is his case  Waking up everyday is a great miracle in it self! |
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ segoye2 I will like to note some comments here that our being alive today is a miracle; yes it is a miracle but were they the miracles we read about on the papers? watch in TV / video tapes? With the scripture quoted eealier on the thread, And with the scriptural knowledge we got, how do we interpret or understanding the passage? Would you like to describe those miracles you read about in the papers, or saw on TV? Personally, I have my doubts about people who go about claiming to heal anyone, and I have reasons for saying so. There have been cases when most of these miracles so-called were staged. There have been cases when even the FBI in the US went in search for itinerary preachers who frauded the people of their hard-earn cash. Some years ago Oral Roberts claimed that if he didn't get millions God would call him home, whatever that meant. Here is a man who claims to be a man of God, using God to get money. Can you imagine preachers who have supposedly healed people in their ministry running a prostitution ring? This is the kind of circus-running drama to which I bring your attention, and that is exactly why Jesus warned us to pay keen attention, lest we become targets of their deception. I am not surprised if it happens even in Nigeria. Its all about fleecing people of their money, not to be used in God's cause per se, but to fill their pockets. On a more lighter note, do you have a miraculous testimony to share? I will share some with you after you begin. |
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segoye2 (m)
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@ Bobbyaf,
Well, your comment was well understood and the points well driven home.
I think start naming or discribing movie , TV, paper miracles are something I shouldn't start with on this thread because is a story known to all of us.
We have seen and read about cases where someone was blind from the womb and at the time of his sight recieving, he was asked what colour of shirt the ministers in front of him wore and was able to Identify it. He could even Identify AC garget? Isn't that strange?
Another case is that of a 15 years child that couldn't walk right from birth, but when he was prayed upon, he was able to walk by himself, I mean noone taught him how to. Not even a mere support from people around.
Well, to me, God gave me a gift of life which I still enjoy even up to the point of my replying this post. So is worth celebrating. But addressing the issue of Miracles from the other way round, am not blind or something, so it makes me feel, the type of miracles we are talking about is not applicable in my case.
Were you blind or something before? How did you recieve you healing?
@ All,
More Comments please
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ segoye2
Do you have a miraculous testimony you'D like to share?
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bari_kade
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@Bobbyaf, You know what is sad? You and your friends on this forum who think you own the forum. You feel as if anything I say must be seen from your eyes only. Don't even menton being prejudicial, because that is exactly what you're displaying right this minute with your constant nagging and fussing over nothing. Guys like you when faced with opposition tend to behave like this anyway, so I am not the least surprised. If you were a real christian you'D show more grace, rather than attack concepts you find difficult to accept. You actually were prejudicial and biased by trying to judge pastors who you happen not to know. If 4get_me pointed that out of love to you, and you can't accept it, you're making me believe that SDA members are precisely what he said they are - belligerent; and I have personally seen that happen among many SDA members. Thanks for the correction about the use of the phrase. Not sure why I used that phrase anyway. The point still stands however, that false teachers are out there and we must be careful how they use miracles to decieve. Doesn't it help to carefully think through your words before you use them? Listen to me carefully Malik, if you have nothing good to say keep your mouth shut. Stop spreading lies about my attacking Shahan. Oh come on, Bobby. . . in the first place people can see that you're trying to attack shahan. In the second place, you sound so very confused that you're beginning to let your seething rage blind you. How has 4get_me become Malik?? The brother m4malik hasn't even been on the Forum in quite a while!!  I think you need more grace to calm down and not become so maliciously blind to reason. |
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ bari_kade You actually were prejudicial and biased by trying to judge pastors who you happen not to know. If 4get_me pointed that out of love to you, and you can't accept it, you're making me believe that SDA members are precisely what he said they are - belligerent; and I have personally seen that happen among many SDA members. No I wasn't Bari_kade. I wasn't judging anyone, and you know that, so please don't put words in my mouth. Let me repaet for emphasis. If you go back to my use of Matthew 24:24 you'D see the point I raised. It was a general warning about the reality of false teachers working miracles. It would be stupid on anyone's part to suggest that I was attacking pastors simply because I raised a concern to be careful about the reality of false teachers using counterfeit miracles to decieve people. So don't join others in foolishly arguing for arguing sake. I have no time for that. Oh come on, Bobby. . . in the first place people can see that you're trying to attack shahan. Prove it if you can anyway! I have seen on this very forum where people have reprimaned Shahan for being nasty. How come you never stepped in to make commentery. She herself excused the behaviour by saying she was merely being passionate. Yet when I get passionate you accuse me. Well, tough luck friend, say what you choose to it I will speak my mind regardless. In the second place, you sound so very confused that you're beginning to let your seething rage blind you. How has 4get_me become Malik?? The brother m4malik hasn't even been on the Forum in quite a while!! Sorry Malik! I think you need more grace to calm down and not become so maliciously blind to reason. And you I figure don't need more grace? So all-of-a-sudden you're all full of grace now? Speaking of being malicious, who is being malicious now? You who seek to put down people who choose to speak what you and your friends on this forum disagree with. Well, I m not going to allow you, or those who think like you to shut me up. You'D better get used to it. |
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@ Segoye2 Well, to me, God gave me a gift of life which I still enjoy even up to the point of my replying this post. So true indeed! God restores our breath each and everyday according to His will. Let Him be praised. So is worth celebrating. But addressing the issue of Miracles from the other way round, am not blind or something, so it makes me feel, the type of miracles we are talking about is not applicable in my case. Agreed! To each his own. I have had several miracles in my life over the years. Looking back each time reminds me of God's goodness to me personally. |
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bari_kade
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@Bobbyaf,
You're making matters worse for yourself; and while going through the threads it only just dawned on me that you actually have issues with shahan - because she had withstood you to the face in another thread and called you a liar, and that must have hurt your male pride.
There was just no need for you to sweat it out and seek to "reprimand" her! If she has acknowledged people's concern for her passion and moved on, what are you really gaining by seeking to launch all this harpoon and do yourself more damage? I haven't even seen anyone accusing her of being "nasty", and maybe you can direct me to that line.
It is no longer surprising that you're only behaving characteristically as SDA members do. They don't appreciate anything good in others except themselves and their own cult, and are very quite often ready to prejudge people they know nothing about!
Just pack it in and move forward. If you can't, then continue hurting your chauvanistic pride all the more - it might do you some good in the end.
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Ndipe (m)
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Let there be no vacancy for dissension in our lives.
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Bobbyaf (m)
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@Bobbyaf,
You're making matters worse for yourself; and while going through the threads it only just dawned on me that you actually have issues with shahan - because she had withstood you to the face in another thread and called you a liar, and that must have hurt your male pride. I have no issues with Shahan. I just have a problem with people mis-represnting my ideas. I have no male pride or any other such thing that suits your fancy. Besides, I have no problem with people disagreeing with my ideas, just as long as they don't twist them to suit an argument. There was just no need for you to sweat it out and seek to "reprimand" her! If she has acknowledged people's concern for her passion and moved on, what are you really gaining by seeking to launch all this harpoon and do yourself more damage? I haven't even seen anyone accusing her of being "nasty", and maybe you can direct me to that line. I must ask you the same question. Why are you here harping about this and that? Why must you add more fuel to the fire since your'e so concerned? Well go ask her about that. I read about it not too long ago and this was expressed by more than one persons. See the following: By Grouppoint, under the thread "Who was Jesus before He became a man" "Shahan, Whilst exchanging your views, it may interest you to know that you are ministering to some of us. So a little christ-like or mohammed-like character would help your cause. Shahan, personally, I am quite impressed by your understanding of the word. But it seems beclouded by a certain anger towards your moslem brothers and their beliefs. Afterall, did Jesus not say; love those that despise you?" By Genial in the same thread: "It is one thing to argue, exchange ideas and have fun, and it is another thing altogether to go out of your way to be nasty." I am not saying that because people say those things that they are true. It only goes to show that people are capable of saying anything. It is no longer surprising that you're only behaving characteristically as SDA members do. They don't appreciate anything good in others except themselves and their own cult, and are very quite often ready to prejudge people they know nothing about! Which makes you a liar because you don't know all SDAs. So who is malacious and belligerant now? No one but you! The very same things you are so quick to judge others on, you yourself are very much guilty of, and its very much obvious also that that makes you a hypocrite on top of all that. So stop making a liar of yourself, and worse yet a hypocrite. Just pack it in and move forward. If you can't, then continue hurting your chauvanistic pride all the more - it might do you some good in the end. Hahahahahaha, you must have been the joker in Batman! You're a loser and you know it. |
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bari_kade
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@Bobbyaf, I must ask you the same question. Why are you here harping about this and that? I'm not harping on anything, and it's no bother if you read it that way. It's just not fitting for you to confirm what people have been suspecting by your brash prejudices. Why must you add more fuel to the fire since your'e so concerned? Oh, I'm surprised you're admitting there's a fire! So, you actually do have an issue or a score to settle with shahan? Be my guest - I haven't had any with her. Well go ask her about that. I read about it not too long ago and this was expressed by more than one persons. See the following:
By Grouppoint, under the thread "Who was Jesus before He became a man"
"Shahan, Whilst exchanging your views, it may interest you to know that you are ministering to some of us. So a little christ-like or mohammed-like character would help your cause. Shahan, personally, I am quite impressed by your understanding of the word. But it seems beclouded by a certain anger towards your moslem brothers and their beliefs. Afterall, did Jesus not say; love those that despise you?" And where in all that did anyone accuse her of being " nasty" as you calimed earlier? Besides, I read that very post and shahan's reply there. . . and it still stands to all that she explained herself, acknowledged the concern and moved on! Note also in her reply that she quite explained that she had no anger towards Muslims, but rather towards Islam! By Genial in the same thread: "It is one thing to argue, exchange ideas and have fun, and it is another thing altogether to go out of your way to be nasty." Again I read the post, and it was clear that Genial did not understand her. Consequently, shahan explained her stand, acknowledged the fine points and moved on! You really can't see past your small worries, can you?? if you're interested, can you take a peep at another entry where she defended criticism in a gracious manner and even opined that she can stand being critized? See it here: http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=36650.msg831561#msg831561I am not saying that because people say those things that they are true. It only goes to show that people are capable of saying anything. You have proven that you're very capable of saying just about anything - especially when judging people you don't even know! Which makes you a liar because you don't know all SDAs. Sorry, I didn't say I know all SDAs!! So, you lie back to you. The point is that all the SDA members I've come across are very belligerent - and you've proven it here on the Forum. So who is malacious and belligerant now? No one but you! if it comforts you because I pointed out your malice, no bother! The very same things you are so quick to judge others on, you yourself are very much guilty of, and its very much obvious also that that makes you a hypocrite on top of all that. Sorry, but that applies more to you than anyone else. You judged pastors whom you know nothing about; you used words carelessly and 4get_me pointed that out to you; you have proved the hypocricy of SDAs on the thread where shahan exposed your fraud - so there! So stop making a liar of yourself, and worse yet a hypocrite. Go figure - by pointing out your prejudices, lies and hypocricy, you haven't effectively washed off the mask. Besides, i'm not the one with the official title of Nairaland's fountanhead of liars - but YOU!!  Hahahahahaha, you must have been the joker in Batman! At least that joker doesn't own the official title of liar as you! You're a loser and you know it. By pointing out your sad reputation on the Forum? Yipeee!!  |
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Bobbyaf (m)
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Have a nice evening bari_kade. May the Lord be with you.
Shalom.
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