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Backslider (m)
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Look at the this Differences. Which is the Truth
Quran 2: 29 It is He who hath created for you all things that are on Earth; THEN He turned to the Heaven and made them into seven firmaments (Skies)….
VERSUS
Quran 79: 27 - 30 Are you the harder to create, or is the heaven that He built? He raised the height thereof and ordered it; and He has made dark the night thereof, and He brought forth the morning thereof. And after that, He spread (flattened) the earth.
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Quran 02: 256 There is no Compulsion in religion….
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Quran 9: 29 Fight those who do not profess the true faith(Islam) till they pay the polltax (jiziya) with the hand of humility.
Quran 9: 5 Then, when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolators wherever ye find them and take them captive, and besiege them and prepare for them each ambush….
Quran 47: 4 When you meet the unbelievers in the Jihad strike off their heads….
Quran 2: 191 And slay (kill) them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out such is the reward of those who suppress faith.
Quran 8: 65 O Apostle ! rouse the believers to the fight of….unbelievers.
Your People will want to Rubbish me that I don't know the Quran and The language and the issue is translation that I have a problem with translation as if to say it has something Hidden.
They hide Under the Language of Arabic now look at this Verse
Quran 44: 58 Verily, We have made This Quran easy in the tongue, in order that they may give heed.
I will try and wait for response
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Backslider (m)
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The morden the ones Flouting their own Laws
September 11, 2006
Once again, the news tells us about Muslim fanatics kidnapping a journalist. This time it was Muhammad Taha, the senior editor of Al-Wifaq, a newspaper in Sudan. Taha was sacrificed on the altar of Islam to please the heart of the prophet of Islam, Muhammad, and to bring happiness and joy to the heart of the God of the Quran, the one who established 1400 years ago the judgment of apostasy in his bloody book called the Quran.
The main thing that made this Sudanese journalist more worthy than other Sudanese to be a good sacrifice is an article about Muhammad’s genealogy he wrote and published in his newspaper last year. He discussed an idea from Al-Maqrizi (1364-1442), an Egyptian Muslim historian who lived seven hundred years ago. This historian claimed that the real name of Muhammad’s father was not Abdullah, meaning “slave of Allah,” but Abdel Lat, meaning “slave of Lat.” Lat was an idol that was worshipped in Arabia before Islam was practiced.
To a person in a free country, this doesn’t sound like an insult worthy of death. But to the mindset of conservative Muslims, this was an attack against the integrity of Muhammad. It was unacceptable to repeat the idea that Muhammad’s father might have been named after an idol rather than after Allah.
The Muslims of Sudan couldn’t attack the historian—he’d been dead for seven hundred years. So they went after the journalist. They accused him of leaving Islam and declared him an infidel. The punishment for apostasy according to Islamic law (sharia) is death.
Sudanese public anger became so great that the Sudanese government put this journalist on trial. During the trial, the imams called for the people to gather outside the court house to demonstrate, and thousands of Sudanese Muslims surrounded the court building, shouting into microphones, demanding the court to hand this man over to them so that they could practice the judgment of apostasy with their own hands.
To the fury of the Sudanese Muslims, the court ruled to merely punish Taha with a $3,000 fine and shutting down the newspaper for three months. This was not enough for them. But they believed that Allah had exposed the court’s infidelity toward Islamic law and called for them to fix the weakness. They remembered that in the Quran Allah ordered his angels to strengthen the Muslims who must fight the unbelievers. “Your Lord inspired the angels…”Keep firm those who have believed” (Surah 8:12). They remembered that Allah would help them “strike terror in the hearts of those who have disbelieved” (Surah 8:12).
Indeed the angels of Allah inspired the Muslims of Sudan to strike terror into the heart of Mohamed Taha and all the people who were supporting him by killing him. But how were they going to kill him when the court had set him free? Allah also supplied the answer: “Capture them and besiege them, and prepare for them each and every ambush.” (Surah 9:5, Muhsin Khan translation). So the Muslims of Sudan set up an ambush.
On Tuesday, September 5, Mohamed Taha worked late at his office. He went home atmidnight and heard a knock at his door at 12:30 a.m. According to his family, when he opened the door, a group of armed men grabbed him and forced him into a vehicle. This is the last time they saw him alive.
On Wednesday, September 6, the world woke up to the news that another holy sacrifice on the altar of Islam had been made. Within hours of the kidnapping, the Muslims cut off the head of this journalist and later the Sudanese authority found his decapitated body on the main road ofKhartoum with his head beside the body. His hands and feet had been bound.
There was a response to this killing from the president of the Sudanese journalists’ society, Ali Shumy. You would expect him to express outrage at what happened. Instead, he declared that the article was a great insult to the prophet Muhammad and that freedom of speech ends in regards to respecting Islam or the prophet of Islam.
To be sure, this man is a political pawn of the Sudanese government, but as such he represents the real attitude and mindset of conservative Muslim. They are saying, “We believe in freedom of speech, but if anyone insults the prophet Muhammad or the religion of Islam according to our judgment, then freedom of speech does not apply. Instead, they will get the judgment of apostasy.”
This is a most sad story, and it breaks my heart personally and causes me to remember events during these past 1400 years, bringing up names and stories of people who had the courage to challenge Islam. Many of them met the end of their lives the same way this Sudanese journalist did, being a sacrifice on the altar of Islam. Some in our present time are still alive, but they have almost lost their freedom to travel or live normal lives because of the fear that they too might be caught and taken to the altar of Islam.
Two years ago the world heard about the Dutch filmmaker, Theo van Gogh, shot and killed in his own country of the Netherlands, presented as a sacrifice on the altar of Islam just as this Sudanese journalist was.
Who will be the next sacrifice? We do not know. Any person who refuses to be intimidated and speaks out about Islam could be the next one.
Why do conservative Muslims fight against freedom of speech? They know that freedom of speech is dangerous to Islam. Freedom of speech allows people to spread information that might bring shame to the image of Islam. In the minds of conservative Muslims, fighting against freedom of speech is a way of fighting on behalf Islam.
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babyosisi (f)
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If we were not saying these truths behind computer screens,allah would have thirsted for your blood and mine through the likes of islampride and his gang.
The truth must be told,nevertheless.
I just hope that journalist found Christ before the slaves of allah slaughtered him on their altar.
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Backslider (m)
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you know before i came to write I wanted to say exactly what you just said I have been praising the internet since thank God for the internet. I will bring Another Out.
The Quran Admonishes you to TELL LIES
016.105
YUSUFALI: It is those who believe not in the Signs of Allah, that forge falsehood: it is they who lie!
PICKTHAL: Only they invent falsehood who believe not Allah's revelations, and (only) they are the liars.
SHAKIR: Only they forge the lie who do not believe in Allah's communications, and these are the liars.
016.106
YUSUFALI: Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
PICKTHAL: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.
SHAKIR: He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
Still looking for more just wait for me I know they will read and wont respond because I am qouting there Quran
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muske (f)
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backslider,
why are you just making irrelevant noise? don't you have thinking faculty.
You and your friends have been claiming 'master of all'.
The Quran Admonishes you to TELL LIES
to tell lies! where was that written
016.105
YUSUFALI: It is those who believe not in the Signs of Allah, that forge falsehood: it is they who lie!
PICKTHAL: Only they invent falsehood who believe not Allah's revelations, and (only) they are the liars.
SHAKIR: Only they forge the lie who do not believe in Allah's communications, and these are the liars.
why are you christians so full of mischief? To you, based on your knowledge, the above means one should lie?
For your understanding, the above verse means that 'those who do not believe in Allah's signs and forge falsehood' like you and your friends are LIARS.
Why are you so dull of comprehension.
016.106
YUSUFALI: Any one who, after accepting faith in Allah, utters Unbelief,- except under compulsion, his heart remaining firm in Faith - but such as open their breast to Unbelief, on them is Wrath from Allah, and theirs will be a dreadful Penalty.
PICKTHAL: Whoso disbelieveth in Allah after his belief - save him who is forced thereto and whose heart is still content with the Faith - but whoso findeth ease in disbelief: On them is wrath from Allah. Theirs will be an awful doom.
SHAKIR: He who disbelieves in Allah after his having believed, not he who is compelled while his heart is at rest on account of faith, but he who opens (his) breast to disbelief-- on these is the wrath of Allah, and they shall have a grievous chastisement.
what is your problem with the above having known you for your lack of comprehending simple sentences.
babyshin,
copy and paste expert. You didnt say anything to my you and i opening a thread and discuss issues there.
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muske (f)
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@backslider,
Just have a look at these
Luke 22v70
King James Version: Then they said, “Are you the son of God? He said unto them, “You say that I am.
New International Version: They all asked, ‘Are you the son of God, he said, ‘you are right in saying I am
Living Bible Version: They all shouted, ‘Then you claim you are the son of God? And he replied yes I am.
Deutronomy 23v2
King James Version: a bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the Lord
New International Version: no one born of a forbidden marriage may enter the assembly of the lord
Living Bible Version: no one born out of wedlock may be included among the Lord’s people.
Hebrew 12v8
KJV; Then you are bastards, and not sons
NIV: Then you are illegitimate children and not sons
Good News Bible (GNB): It means you are not real sons, but bastards
LBV: It means that you are not God’s son at all
Are you ok or still need more?
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babyosisi (f)
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Muske while I agree with you that backslider quoted those verses wrongly,I would ask what your motives are for your own quotations.
let me first deal with the third one to show you how small minded your muslim mentality can be.
You have just dug yourself a grave.
[b]Hbr 12:5 And you have forgotten that word of encouragement that addresses you as sons:
[b]“My son, do not make light of the Lord's discipline,
and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
Hbr 12:6 because the Lord disciplines those he loves,
and he punishes everyone he accepts as a son.”*
Hbr 12:7 Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as sons. For what son is not disciplined by his father?
Hbr 12:8 If you are not disciplined (and everyone undergoes discipline), then you are illegitimate children and not true sons.
Hbr 12:9 Moreover, we have all had human fathers who disciplined us and we respected them for it. How much more should we submit to the Father of our spirits and live!
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God in the scripture above which you foolishly lifted was refering to how he treats us as sons.
And since he calls us legitimate sons,he can correct us otherwise we would be bastards if he couldn't correct us when we err.
do you now understand O pea brain sized islamic slave of allah?[/b]
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gbade. x (m)
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. . . .and exactly what was the point in bringing out those verses?
Even a retard can see they (the passage in Luke) have differences in diction but have the same theme/meaning
same thing goes for the second part you pulled out. . .
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babyosisi (f)
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and what is your point again in the other verses?,let's show forth your stupidity one more time.
Let me give you a chance to respond.
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JosBoy4Lif (m)
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As if there are no contradictions in the Bible  People wake up Religion should not be scripture based, rather faith driven! |
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gbade. x (m)
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@babyosisi:
time to respond? nah, i already know what muske will come up with :
* you copied and pasted. same thing goes for me and backslider.
* we Christians are blah blah this, blah blah that, ignorant of that verse.
* as far as our explanations doesn't agree/align or doesn't go with his pre-conceived notions, he won't accept it.
* and more Biblical verses he'll (muske) would pick out of context and attack.
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babyosisi (f)
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let's wait for the mugu to grow some bia bia and bounce back in.
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gbade. x (m)
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@ JosBoy4life:
there are no contradictions in the Bible.
Most times, people especially non-Christians "see" contradictions in the Bible because they make the error of reading Biblical verses out of context and not as a whole.
In a Chapter, every verses links to the other, so cherrypicking a particular verse only brings about the so-called "contradictions".
Let me put it in simpler terms for non-Christians reading this:
The Bible is like a Living Jigsaw Puzzle. Put the wrong Jigsaw part in it, you miss the big picture. Fix the Jigsaw parts correctly, you see the big picture.
Another reason people are wont to "see" contradictions is because of the difference in diction of the various verses, the translation of some Greek and Hebrew words/terms to the English language and the symbolic and metaphorical language used in the Bible. For example, the Book of Revelations. If a non-believer reads this Book literally, he'D just be as confused as a retard in an engineering exam.
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muske (f)
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@babyosis,
u orang-utan.
i wonder why you christians have eyes but you view things blindly.
your brother posted some verses of the koran referring to the Egnlish Language used by the authors and i came out with same and you moron babysin had the audacity to challange me to my post.
God in the scripture above which you foolishly lifted was refering to how he treats us as sons.
And since he calls us legitimate sons,he can correct us otherwise we would be bastards if he couldn't correct us when we err.
do you now understand O pea brain sized islamic slave of allah?[/b]
brainwashed babyshit,
let me leave you with the verse from the Quran
quran 5v18: and both the jews and the christians say, "we are the children of Allah and his loved ones. say, ' why then does he punish you for your sin? nay, you are but human beings of those created, he forgives whom he wills and punishes who He wills,
now, lets pick it from the above, give me any backings from your bible denouncing the above and i will give you bible verses supporting my claims up.
i don't really blame you because you really do not understand the meaning of Servant/slave, fool.
gbade.x.
u moron, i don't have time for you
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babyosisi (f)
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Typical,not that one expected anything less.Did you read my first sentence or your memory has been scourged away by a bearded fellow?
are you asking me to disprove or back up the idolalaterous work and sayings of allah from the Bible?
What happened to the previous conversation eh?
being a typical Islamic escapist eh?
Do you even realise that allah and his marauding pedophile were no where to be found when the Bible was written
Nevertheless the Bible knew there would be false prophets so this is what it had to say.
Rev 20:10 The devil, who deceived them, was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone where* the beast and the false prophet are. And they will be tormented day and night forever and ever.
Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.*
Rev 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.
You still have a chance while there's still breathe in you.
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babyosisi (f)
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It may interest you to read about Ishmael,the ancestor of the arab muslims,what God had to say.
and when you come up with the same lame excuses of Ismael being the son of promise,read the Jewish Torah which is now backed up by the dead sea scrolls.
.Gen 21:9 And Sarah saw the son of Hagar the Egyptian, whom she had borne to Abraham, scoffing.
Gen 21:10 Therefore she said to Abraham, "Cast out this bondwoman and her son; for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son, namely with Isaac."
Gen 21:11 And the matter was very displeasing in Abraham's sight because of his son.
Gen 21:12 But God said to Abraham, "Do not let it be displeasing in your sight because of the lad or because of your bondwoman. Whatever Sarah has said to you, listen to her voice; for in Isaac your seed shall be called.
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babyosisi (f)
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so that you really see who the son of promise was,Isaac not the erroneous muslim teaching calling Ishmael the promised.
Gen 17:15 Then God said to Abraham, "As for Sarai your wife, you shall not call her name Sarai, but Sarah shall be her name.
Gen 17:16 "And I will bless her and also give you a son by her; then I will bless her, and she shall be a mother of nations; kings of peoples shall be from her."
Gen 17:17 Then Abraham fell on his face and laughed, and said in his heart, "Shall a child be born to a man who is one hundred years old? And shall Sarah, who is ninety years old, bear a child?"
Gen 17:18 And Abraham said to God, "Oh, that Ishmael might live before You!"
Gen 17:19 Then God said: "No, Sarah your wife shall bear you a son, and you shall call his name Isaac; I will establish My covenant with him for an everlasting covenant, and with his descendants after him. Gen 17:20 "And as for Ishmael, I have heard you. Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly. He shall beget twelve princes, and I will make him a great nation.
Gen 17:21 "But My covenant I will establish with Isaac, whom Sarah shall bear to you at this set time next year."
The blue verses are the reason why your arab muslim and palestinian brethren could never succeed in their plot against the jews no matter how hard they tried.
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davidylan (m)
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let me leave you with the verse from the Quran
quran 5v18: and both the jews and the christians say, "we are the children of Allah and his loved ones. say, ' 1. why then does he punish you for your sin? nay, you are but human beings of those created, 2. he forgives whom he wills and punishes who He wills,
now, lets pick it from the above, give me any backings from your bible denouncing the above and i will give you bible verses supporting my claims up.
i don't really blame you because you really do not understand the meaning of Servant/slave, fool.
@ muske, please calm down. Let's do away with the insults for now! But be warned that if you persist, turning the other cheek does not translate to being trampled upon! 1. The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is not a vindictive God unlike one certain allah. He does not punish us for our sins rather here is what He gives to us! Romans 5: 1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
2By whom also we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, and rejoice in hope of the glory of God.
3And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience;
4And patience, experience; and experience, hope:
5And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us.
6For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly.
7For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die.
8But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
9Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. 2. A "God" who "punishes whom he wills" is not a just God and there is no fairness nor mercy in him! Here is what my Father in heaven has to say: John 3: 16For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. Thanks and God bless you even in your mischief! |
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gbade. x (m)
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@ muske:
wasn't expecting any less from your writeup. I had already pre-written what you'D say, so it's of no suprise.
Resorting to insults wouldn't get your points across. go take some anti-depressants if Anger Management is working. . .
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Backslider (m)
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Surat 22:47 and 32:5 say that Allah's day equal to 1,000 human years.
But 70:4 says that it equal to 50,000 years.
Which one should we take?
Quran claims that Allah transformed the Jews into apes and swine Surat 2.65, 5.60 7.166\
hygiene if there is no water use sand
4:43 “…If ye are ill, or on a journey, or one of you cometh from offices of nature, or ye have been in contact with women, and ye find no water, then take for yourselves clean sand or earth, and rub therewith your faces and hands. For Allah doth blot out sins and forgive again and again.”
I wonder how many msulim Practice this.
We the Christian are unclean
9:28 says "Verily, the Mushrikûn (unbeleivers) are Najasun (unclean)
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Backslider (m)
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Surat 2:48
And guard yourselves against the day when no soul shall be of use to another in anyway and no intercession shall be accepted and no compensation be taken from it and nor will people be helped.
THIS VERSE MEANS WHAT?
The fact that Muhammad has no power to save anyone from Hellfire is clearly stated in the verse: 39:19
Is he on whom the word of doom is fulfilled (to be helped), and canst thou (O Muhammad) rescue him who is in the Fire? (Pickthal)
Who is there can intercede in His [Allah’s] presence except as He permitteth? 2:255
This verse seems to imply that there is at least one person who can intercede with Allah. Let us see if there are more verses confirming this point.
No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). 10:3
On the day when We shall gather the righteous unto the Beneficent, a goodly company. And drive the guilty unto hell, a weary herd, they will have no power of intercession, save him who hath made a covenant with his Lord. 19:85-87
On that Day shall no intercession avail except for those for whom permission has been granted by (Allah) Most Gracious and whose word is acceptable to Him. 20:109
And We [1st person plural] did not send before you any messenger but We revealed to him that there is no god but Me, [1st person singular] therefore serve Me. And they say: The Beneficent Allah has taken to Himself a son. Glory be to Him.[3rd person singular] Nay! they are honored servants They do not precede Him in speech and (only) according to His commandment do they act. He knows what is before them and what is behind them, and they do not intercede except for him whom He approves and for fear of Him they tremble. And whoever of them should say: Surely I am a god besides Him, such a one do We recompense with hell; thus do, We recompense the unjust. 21:25-29
No intercession can avail in His Presence, except for those for whom He has granted permission. So far (is this the case) that, when terror is removed from their hearts (at the Day of Judgment, then) will they say, ‘what is it that your Lord commanded?’ they will say, ‘That which is true and just; and He is the Most High Most Great’. 34:23 [5]
Verses 43:86 and 53:26 also tell us that no one can intercede with Allah except those whom Allah pleases.
In the above verses we get the confirmation that someone is capable to intercede with Allah.
I also highlighted the pronouns. We see sometimes Allah refers to himself in third person singular, (He) then shifts to first person plural (We) and sometimes to first person singular (I and Me). Will you please explain this unorthodox way of speech? It appears that these are Muhammad’s Freudian slips. It is as if the Prophet keeps forgetting that the Quran is supposed to be the word of Allah and Allah should not allude to himself in 3rd person. You find this error in the entire Quran. I hope you give some explanation to that as well. Is the Quran really the word of God or that of the illiterate Muhammad?
The following verses are interesting because Muhammad actually starts interceding with Allah for his followers right away even before the Judgment Day.
Those who sustain the Throne (of Allah) and those around it sing Glory and Praise to their Lord; believe in Him; and implore forgiveness for those who believe: "Our Lord! Thy Reach is over all things, in Mercy and Knowledge. Forgive, then, [Now this is clearly Muhammad supplicating to Allah] those who turn in Repentance, and follow Thy Path; and preserve them from the Penalty of the Blazing Fire! And grant, our Lord! that they enter the Gardens of Eternity, which Thou hast promised to them, and to the righteous among their fathers, their wives, and their posterity! For Thou art, the Exalted in Might, Full of Wisdom. And preserve them from (all) ills; and any whom Thou dost preserve from ills that Day,- on them wilt Thou have bestowed Mercy indeed: and that will be truly (for them) the highest Achievement." 40:7-9.
These verses surly can’t be the words of Allah. They are clearly Muhammad’s prayer to Allah. If they are the words of Allah, whom is Allah supplicating to? If they are the words of Muhammad, a) why they are in the Quran, and b) don’t they contradict 2:48, 2:122-123, 2:254, 4:123, 6:5, 6:70, 39:43-44, 82:18-19, 17:56-57
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muske (f)
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@davidylan,
Thanks for your brotherly advise. I didn’t mean to be but she’s been behaving arrogantly in all her posts afterall she’s not the only female Christian here. Must she resort to insult in order to drive home her point. It really showed her level of home training.
Gbade.x,
I can never be intimidated or frustrated, I was only replying you based on your post.
Cheers.
Babyshit,
Now, being ignorant of the word ‘slave/servant’, I am now happy that you and I can trash issues out and as a result, I have posted verses supporting my claim that ITS ONLY SERVANT OF GOD THAT WILL GAIN ETERNAL LIFE. When you are through with that, we go to the issue of Isaac and Ishmael. Happy reading
Slave or son of God
You do insult muslims as slaves due to your misconception of the book or maybe you attach more importance to what people say in the bible that what God and jesus instructed them to do.
What is the meaning of slave
Slave is that person that does not have any right whatsoever to do whatever he wishes unless the instruction comes from his master. He is under the control of his master.
Slaves can be grouped into:
1 slave can be war captives
2. slave can be bought at a price
3. slave can be civil servants
4. slave of faith (to God or idol)
the Koran and bible will act as reference to each group of these slaves.
Captives of war
There are uncountable references from the bible which addressed war captives as slaves.
Civil servant- slave
Whosoever is serving the government or any private establishment is a servant, so far he depends on his employer
The employer for his livelihood. 2nd Samuel 8v2 and verse 6 informed us about a servant who was seving David. This is a good example of civil servant.
Human being bought for a price – slave
Genesis 39v1 informed us how Joseph became a slave as in “Now Joseph was taken down to Egypt…, an Egyptian bought him from the Ishmaelite…”
Exodus 21v7: when a man sells his daughter as a slave, she shall not go out as the male slaves do.
Worshippers as slaves
One can be a slave through faith. 2nd kings 10v23 showed worshippers of “baal” as slaves of Baal.
Slave of God are those who fear God and obey His commandments.
Quran 25v63: and the SERVANTS of the Beneficient God are they who walk on the earth in humbleness, and when the ignorant address them , they say, ‘peace’.
All prophets of God were His servants
Quran 19v30: He (jesus) said, surely, I am a SERVANT of Allah, he has given me the Book and made me a prophet…,
Quran 4v172: jesus disdaineth not to serve and worship God (SERVANT) nor do the angels those nearest (to God)…,
Quran 19v1-2: a mention of the mercy of your Lord to His SERVANT Zakariya
Quran 18v1: all praise is due to Allah, who revealed the Book to His SERVANT Muhammed (saw) and did not make it any crookedness.
Servants of jesus
2nd Corinthians 7v22: for he who was called in the Lord as A SLAVE is a freedman of the Lord. Likewise he who was free when called is a SLAVE OF CHRIST. You are bought with a price.
2nd Corinthians 4v5: for what we preach is not ourselves but jesus Christ as lord, with ourselves as your SERVANT.
God will reward his servants with paradise “everlasting life”
Now read this from your paul
Romans 6v16-22: know ye not that to whom ye yield yourselves SERVANTS to obey, his SERVANTS ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, nor of obedience unto righteousness.
(17) but God be thanked that ye were the SERVANTS of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form the doctrine which was delivered to you. (18) being then made free from sin, ye became the SERVANT of righteousness (19) I speak after the manner of men because of the infirmity of your fresh; for as ye have yielded your members SERVANTS to uncleaness and to iniquity into iniquity; even so now yield your members SERVANTS to righteousness. (22) But now being made free from sin, AND BECOME SERVANT TO GOD, YE HAVE YOUR FRUIT UNTO HOLINESS AND THE END IS EVERLASTING LIFE
Revelation 11v18: the nations raged but they wrath came and the time for dead to be judged for rewarding THY SERVANTS, the prophets and saints
babyshit,
Hope you are satisfied that only the slave/servant of God will gain eternal life, and if not satisfied, let me have your objection
After that we go to another issue, maybe the issue of ‘the promised child’ whether it was Ishmael or Isaac. One after the other, you and I
Stay hooked on
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davidylan (m)
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@ muskeke,
your zealousness would have been of mighty advantage in the kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
Your interplay on the words servant/slave is really funny
Our bible makes it clear that we are SONS of the Most High! The bible uses several adjectives to qualify certain statements, infact in one instance he did refer to the disciples as friends, in another he refered to them as mothers, sisters and brothers!
One thing is clear though, i know my stand iin Christ. Do you have a stand in Islam?
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babyosisi (f)
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david,honestly,I give up on the mugu.
How can I explain the benefit of light to one who dwells in a cave?
*I agree you are a slave of allah,I never contended that so why the huffing and puffing?
let me help backsliders thread by quoting this sura you're a female my dear mosquito(I hope),it will give you something to aspire towards.
Oh Prophet, We have made lawful for thee thy wives whom thou hast given their wages and what thy right hand owns, spoils of war that God has given thee, and the daughter of thy uncles paternal and aunts paternal, thy uncles maternal and aunts maternal, who have emigrated with thee, and any woman believer, if she give herself to the Prophet and if the Prophet desire to take her in marriage, for thee exclusively, apart from the believers --
(The Confederates vs.49 ff.)
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mrpataki (m)
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Praise God for you guys, in trying to reach out to Muskeke  I actually tried it and saw no point in doing that  |
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inilibby (f)
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My brothers and sisters in Christ, do you not understand that Allah and Mohammed is as real to the Moslems as God, Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit is to us.
We know that there is only one true God and He has numerous names (Yahweh, Jevovah etc), but I never came across any name of His such as Allah. This, the moslems do not know.
Kindly tell me how they can know this, if all we do is throw insults at them when they get angry in the defence of their religion (as per their quoran - re: slaying unbelievers).
We, on the other hand are commanded to love them and pray for them.
How can you love them if you re insulting them???
Also, do not forget that wishing them evil (and name calling can be equated / is akin to wishing them evil) is the same thing as committing murder?? For this, I am sure you wll agreee with me to ask God for his forgiveness.
Muske, I pray that you will come to see and know the Lght and come to know that the Light is the Way and the Truth. May God bless you.
David, you are great for being a peace maker. God bless.
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Seun (m)
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This thread is marked for deletion. Reason: Unecessarily provocative.
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kaecy5 (m)
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seun
naturally when christians and muslims argue - -there is always provocation and most times to my understanding the muslims wont argue from facts or point they becom agressive
i have followed this thread and we all know where the insults started from
or r u also clipping our rights to argue?
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davidylan (m)
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This thread is marked for deletion. Reason: Unecessarily provocative.
my dear, do as you please. I see you as a small minded hypocrite who is unable to take the slightest criticism. Keep pandering to muslims and white skineed members! Mark my words, you will be searching for viable members by the end of this yr! |
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mrpataki (m)
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@ Seun, Praise God for you, but really you have to learn that even in the real world out there, there exist people with different mind set, who when they are thrown to the wall resort to cheap insults just to make a point! Will you because of that close down the world  Wonder how the world will be if you were to be God  If you had received reports that it was provocative I will agree to that, but . . . . . . . . . . . . . . |
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venusmaze
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naturally when christians and muslims argue - -there is always provocation and most times to my understanding the muslims wont argue from facts or point they becom agressive
the question is why are christians and muslims arguing? we know nobody will accept the other's view. futile exercise |
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