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dblock (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #128 on: January 31, 2007, 07:04 AM »

Davidylan you are absolutely right, I mean 100% right, because I think God gifted me with so many talents but I've only used like 20% of em
kitaun (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #129 on: January 31, 2007, 07:19 AM »

@Davidylan, God bless u bro!!
waleleader (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #130 on: January 31, 2007, 07:42 AM »

Quote from: dblock on January 31, 2007, 06:28 AM
. Some parts of London for example are as dangerous as in developing countries, for example Peckham, how many people that live in Peckham, London go out at night, but enough abot Peckham,
 Let's see, how about the architecture, that is what annoys me the most, so much of Britains Medieval Architecture has been preserved that the city looks like some medieval cluster.

@dblock,
i wont insult u because u were already expecting it, BTW it would be juvenile of me

Now lets talk London, I don't mind Americans running their mouth about ma City, but not some dude from Down Under

The way Nigerians talk about peckham sef, Seun was once liking it to Ajegunle. Peckham/Brixton is by far cleaner and posher than our one and only Victoria island in Lagos. The worse council flats there are better then our 1004 (where only rich people can afford O). Who says you can't go out at night in Peckham? Ive only been there in the day twice,The only reason I would prefer not to live in peckham is the concentration of illeterate Nigerians that create a stereotype of what Nigerians are and should be.

PECKHAM IS A BEAUTIFUL SUBURB SOUTH OF THE RIVER THAMES, Maybe u should see the place at night to appreciate its beauty,I bet all u Aussies and Yanks cannot afford a decent regenerated flat in peckham and most of Southwark council.

Australia is still regarded as a developing country if u did not know and You dare to make remarks about our medieval architecture. The whole of Australia was still a prisonyard when some of those buildings were ercted. Show some respect dude.

The electricity issue happens once in a blue moon, u were just unlucky to witness it. Maybe u were staying at Brick Lane sef
dblock (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #131 on: January 31, 2007, 08:15 AM »

I do not represent Australia and I wouldn't be offended if you insulted the place. I do not judge places based on comparism but on how good they can or should be. You compare Peckham with Victoria Island(I'm not going to comment on your comparism), but I see your comparism as saying Soddom is better than hell, I am not implying that Victoria Island is hell or any place in Nigeria as a matter of fact, because the issue here is not Nigeria or Australia, it's London
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The whole of Australia was still a prisonyard when some of those buildings were ercted. Show some respect dude.
Dude Australia was initially constructed by the English(Well their Convicts), so you fellas should take some responsibilty aswell.

I hate to be a Hypocrite and compare but the Estates in Australia and even in some parts of Victoria Island are better than London in General(Note I say General), I am aware that London has it's top notch surburbs, which are way better than V.I (I've seen em), but in General the Housing in London is useless for a developed country.
onatisi (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #132 on: January 31, 2007, 09:45 AM »

baby face is right about london and i share her opinions , the problem with nigerians is in our mentality , we believe that  anything foreing is good nd i think baby face has actually seen the reality of it all . it is about propangada , the 50cent,puffdaddy stuff and all othertrash like that when u get there u will c that it was all a s ham .  i don't think it will be rational to say babyface didnt know what to do . let me ask the people that  are blaming babyface .  wht dio they expect babyface to do for the white asses , clean their toilets and wash their clothes for 10 pounds ? 
waleleader (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #133 on: January 31, 2007, 09:48 AM »

Quote from: onatisi on January 31, 2007, 09:45 AM
baby face is right about london and i share her opinions , the problem with nigerians is in our mentality , we believe that anything foreing is good nd i think baby face has actually seen the reality of it all . it is about propangada , the 50cent,puffdaddy stuff and all othertrash like that when u get there u will c that it was all a s ham . i don't think it will be rational to say babyface didnt know what to do . let me ask the people that are blaming babyface . wht dio they expect babyface to do for the white asses , clean their toilets and wash their clothes for 10 pounds ?

And your point is  Huh Cool
kitaun (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #134 on: January 31, 2007, 12:23 PM »

No point at all!!
funkilicious (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #135 on: January 31, 2007, 01:19 PM »

@Walelead, i agree with your comments. Who r u to criticize London @dablock

London is the most expensive place to live in the world. It's a fact/s]  including PECKHAM.[/b]
@Dblock, u nid 2 think about the way u criticical analyse your argument. Who told u that London is a useless place to live ? That is UR opinion, for me to agree with your points(opinions), u nid 2 back it up with FACT.

I will like to point out to u people that a one bedroom house in Peckham can buy a mansion in Nigeria, 4-5bedroom in Austrialia and i'm guessing 3bedroom in US (texas).

Peckham aint that bad lol. [s][s]I am from Abbey wood, before y'all start finikn.
[/s][s][/s] However, i do go for food shoppin in Peckham. Statistically, Peckham do not have high-crime rate. It's just the council flat and the incident of Dammy Taylor, etc.
LadyT (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #136 on: January 31, 2007, 01:22 PM »

Quote from: kitaun on January 31, 2007, 06:38 AM
@Lady T, what exactly is your point?? Have u come to the conclusion that chances of making it here in Naija are limited? Haven't u seen folks here getting beta off their more educated and hitherto more exposed peers? Abeg anywhere u dey na the grace of God person dey chop wey dey lift person!


Let me re-interate what I am trying to say.

Theres a few people here dissing foreign countries.  And my point is you do not bite the hand that feeds you.  The type of opportunities that are open to you here in the UK are not present in Nigeria.  The level of education in Nigeria I would say is HIGHER than the west because people read more than one topic like TOH saying  a engineer becoming a banker!  But where does that get you?  The people who are doing well in Nigeria I suggest you investigate properly.

It is more then likely to be one of many reasons

1) They have connections to people in power

2) The come from a rich family

3) They have worked aboard and have now come home to invest.

4) They have committed 419 crime to raise some capital


Look our greedy leaders do not make it easy for us to progress thats why people need to go aboard and work like dogs.  When Nigerias see people from aboard they think they must be living the high life and sweeping gold from the streets.  Thats why I said to the person who started the topic that now she ca return home and tell people that actually theres no gold on the streets and some people are actually working hard!

Do you get it now! *rolls eyes*
funkilicious (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #137 on: January 31, 2007, 01:27 PM »

@Lady T, u go girl!

WORD!
Vieira (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #138 on: January 31, 2007, 02:49 PM »

dblock na wa for you o!

Listen, people do make it in Naija but MOST of them are through connections.
I schooled in Naija and tried my hand at the job market but it all boiled down to going to see Uncle's and such.

Nigeria has enterprising people but the way it is currently set up makes it hard for peeps to break through in any form.

I live in London now and I have worked my way into a decent position through my own efforts without needing any hookup or such.

In Naija my family was poor and we did not have the necessary connections to get a foot on the right ladder.

Despite that there are people can still make it but it is not in the numbers that a nation of 140 million should have.

PS. where did you go that there was no light in london??  Are you sure that your mate paid his Electricity bill?? I have lived in the country for a combined 20 plus years and never been without light. You only hear of this if there is like a storm or flooding and it is a rare occurence.

Actually I think Australia is a very good country, it has all the modern comms of England combined with the space of Nigeria.

Lack of space in England is what really depresses me!


Eastcoast (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #139 on: January 31, 2007, 03:46 PM »

  Why don't we let those in london talk about this. Peckham may be bad or good, but i believe that their quality of life is still much better than if they were in lagos. Even the air they are breathing is much cleaner unlike lagos air that is extremely humid and dirty. The peckham residents may be working hard but atleast they can eat enough food to satisfy their hunger afterall, isn't that what most nigerians are crying for back home.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #140 on: January 31, 2007, 05:39 PM »

I hear once you get to Heathrow, there's always someone pounding yam by the baggage claim  Cheesy
kitaun (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #141 on: January 31, 2007, 05:57 PM »

Lady T, havent u digressed? You seem to justify why its d norm 4 peeps to jand, but in d same breath u castigate peeps dissing foreign lands, i don't have any qualms about those, now tell me: should we all strive to jand before we progress? Then how would d country progress? Do u know that by sheer providence and hard luck people with poor backgrounds make it here? Have u noticed how some jand or yankee-based fellas make homebased Nairalanders feel like they know nada?
LadyT (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #142 on: January 31, 2007, 06:20 PM »

Ok Kitaun if you say so.  But there is no way people will be able to progress to their fullest potential in Nigeria with our current corrupt leadership.  You seem to be in denial that there is a problem.

I would like proof that poor people with PURE hard work only and NO CONNECTIONS make it in Nigeria.
LadyT (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #143 on: January 31, 2007, 06:21 PM »

Quote from: ThiefOfHearts on January 31, 2007, 05:39 PM
I hear once you get to Heathrow, there's always someone pounding yam by the baggage claim Cheesy

LOL no thats Peckham!
LoverBwoy (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #144 on: January 31, 2007, 06:22 PM »

dblock, whats wrong with British architecture? you've been going on about it for a while now they are British after all and you even mentioned the fact that they have "preserved it" ain't that a good thing?
Apart from tall and shiny building (a bit dry and common) the majority of Yankee architecture is influenced by British/European architecture

I like peckham actually, it used to have a bad reputation still does but its like a city within a city, you get everything you want there  Cheesy
LadyT (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #145 on: January 31, 2007, 06:23 PM »

The funny thing do you people actually know how SMALL the UK is?
LoverBwoy (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #146 on: January 31, 2007, 06:32 PM »

exactly i wonder why they complain about the houses being small? I wonder how people will have accommodation if people live in 10 bedroom mansions

people also complain about how high the taxes are like its breaking news
kitaun (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #147 on: January 31, 2007, 06:45 PM »

Lady T, do i need to start telling u that majority of our celebs had humble backgrounds but by dint of hardwork have maximised their potential and here am not talking of peeps like Fela or Teju babyface but people like Agbeni Darego, Lagbaja, Dakova, Dele Momodu, our footballers Kanu and Okocha *at least them start from here*, what of our numerous other artistes like Tuface, don't worry i wont mention Dbanj because he had to 'bolowon' to come hit it big here!
LoverBwoy (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #148 on: January 31, 2007, 06:48 PM »

Quote from: LadyT on January 31, 2007, 06:21 PM
LOL no thats Peckham!

are you sure that's not JFK  Wink Okrika Wakeup
LadyT (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #149 on: January 31, 2007, 08:40 PM »

Kitaun don't make me laugh.  So to make it we all need to be in the entertainment industry??? I need much better examples please.

TerraCotta (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #150 on: January 31, 2007, 09:06 PM »

Thought I already posted a reply here. Anyway, I pity all you people making fun of Peckham--if I were you lot living over there, I'D be organizing how to buy a place there instead of making fun of Iya Risikat the yam-pounder and Nkechi the pure-water seller Cheesy Peckham's well in line for serious gentrification, just like Notting Hill and even Kilburn back in the days. There was a time when north London wasn't so posh, but you'D pay an arm and a leg just to share a space there now, not to talk of actually owning one. Better organize a way to get into council housing sharp-sharp!
Donzman (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #151 on: January 31, 2007, 09:14 PM »

@LadyT

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2) The come from a rich family

How did that family become rich?. . .

It's funny how you think everyone in Nigeria is into connection/419 or else hunger will kill you. Sorry there are people who have made it through legitimate means.
londoner
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #152 on: January 31, 2007, 09:37 PM »

Terrocotta you are correct, the government has plans to redevelop Peckham, just like they did to Clapham and Brixton, anyone who has the chance to buy a house there(even council) BUY IT!!!!!
They are also planning transport links there, thats one thing I like about London, they can invest in run down areas, those who play their cards right will benefit.

The architecture?, I love places like London and Paris especially in the centre, they were built in the days when structures were built with passion and an intricate artistic hand and with so much attention to detail. Modern high rises in cities like NY are nice too, but I don't find them beautiful.

People make it in Nigeria, but by different rules most of the time, but often they get much further than those outside.
The One (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #153 on: January 31, 2007, 09:50 PM »

LadyT

You are the most narrow-minded person I have had the displeasure of reading from on nairaland. Where did you get these trash from?

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Let me re-interate what I am trying to say.

Theres a few people here dissing foreign countries.  And my point is you do not bite the hand that feeds you.  The type of opportunities that are open to you here in the UK are not present in Nigeria.  The level of education in Nigeria I would say is HIGHER than the west because people read more than one topic like TOH saying  a engineer becoming a banker!  But where does that get you?  The people who are doing well in Nigeria I suggest you investigate properly.

It is more then likely to be one of many reasons

1) They have connections to people in power

2) The come from a rich family

3) They have worked aboard and have now come home to invest.

4) They have committed 419 crime to raise some capital


Look our greedy leaders do not make it easy for us to progress thats why people need to go aboard and work like dogs.  When Nigerias see people from aboard they think they must be living the high life and sweeping gold from the streets.  Thats why I said to the person who started the topic that now she ca return home and tell people that actually theres no gold on the streets and some people are actually working hard!

Do you get it now! *rolls eyes*

The fact that you and the people around you didn't make it in Nigeria shouldn't make you generalize that nobody can make it in Nigeria without the factors you mentioned. Hellooooooooooo!!! Wise up girl, people are making it much more than you'll ever make it in that London of yours OK!! I'm not saying London is not OK but I get seriously pissed when people just generalize abotu Nigeria the way you did.
dblock (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #154 on: January 31, 2007, 10:11 PM »

Yeah I don't like the architecture, the majority of the buildings look really old and I don't think that's a good thing, because I believe that the only way is forward. Post Modern Architecture or At Deco is the only form of architecture i recognise, but hey what brought me to my conclusions------.Well Heathrow is a pretty good airport, the light issue was probably the bad luck my sister brought but I really do feel that the roads in London aren't wide enough but Spaghetti Junction is doing it for me. But I bet you didn't know that the UN are planning to make a move to prevent the construction of highrises in a lot of locations in London, that move will be the world's biggest ever narrow minded intervention. I'll stop dissing London now because I don't want to make my relatives that live there pissed Grin
TerraCotta (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #155 on: January 31, 2007, 10:27 PM »

Quote from: dblock on January 31, 2007, 10:11 PM
Yeah I don't like the architecture, the majority of the buildings look really old and I don't think that's a good thing, because I believe that the only way is forward. Post Modern Architecture or At Deco is the only form of architecture i recognise

 Huh Post-modern architecture and Art Deco are not the same thing. The Art Deco movement died about sixty years ago, so I'm sure most examples of it would look "really old", as a matter of fact. Not sure where you are going with this.

Carry on, sha Grin
dblock (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #156 on: January 31, 2007, 10:34 PM »

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Post-modern architecture and Art Deco are not the same thing. The Art Deco movement died about sixty years ago

No shit. But Art Deco is industrial and stuff so the movement was the begining of post modernism I believe, take the Chrysler Building or thw woolworths centre(Now the Sony building), This Art Deco buildings sparked the begining of post modernism. But my point is this kind of arhitecture is more pleasing to the eyes, well at least my eyes than brick apartments piled up aginst each other, It's almost as depressing as Newyork Midtown
LoverBwoy (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #157 on: January 31, 2007, 10:35 PM »

if you don't like the architecture then you are a typical bush boy from ijebu igbo

dblock, do you know the size of London?
who wants big roads anyway, we like the Nissan micras and mini coopers  Grin
do you think everybody wants to polllute the world like Yankee people with their gas guzzler s.u.v this s.u.v that   Tongue

All those  buildings in New York you've been watching on MTV base are just tall buildings, who can't build a very tall building




LadyT (f)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #158 on: January 31, 2007, 10:39 PM »

The One where is your current location???  Grin


Quote from: The One on January 31, 2007, 09:50 PM
LadyT

You are the most narrow-minded person I have had the displeasure of reading from on nairaland. Where did you get these trash from?

The fact that you and the people around you didn't make it in Nigeria shouldn't make you generalize that nobody can make it in Nigeria without the factors you mentioned. Hellooooooooooo!!! Wise up girl, people are making it much more than you'll ever make it in that London of yours OK!! I'm not saying London is not OK but I get seriously pissed when people just generalize abotu Nigeria the way you did.

TerraCotta (m)
Re: London Is Not The Paradise I Expected
« #159 on: January 31, 2007, 11:05 PM »

Quote from: dblock on January 31, 2007, 10:11 PM
the majority of the buildings look really old  and Post Modern Architecture or At Deco is the only form of architecture i recognise
doesn't match up with
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No shit. But Art Deco is industrial and stuff so the movement was the begining of post modernism I believe, take the Chrysler Building or thw woolworths centre(Now the Sony building), This Art Deco buildings sparked the begining of post modernism. But my point is this kind of arhitecture is more pleasing to the eyes, well at least my eyes than brick apartments piled up aginst each other, It's almost as depressing as Newyork Midtown

This sounds confusing--Art Deco didn't spark Post-Modernism. You might have a point with Modernism, but it's a different movement from Post-Modernism though they share similar names. By the way, both the Chrysler Building and the Sony Building are in midtown Manhattan. How's it depressing there if that kind of architecture is "more pleasing to the eyes"  Huh Naijas and claiming sha!

I'm playing, dblock. Do you, jare. Grin
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