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lagbaja (m)
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Can someone give me a lead on any good web design service in Nigeria?
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gpaul3rd
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My company, a construction company, based in Liberia wants to design its web page. CAn you do it? How much does it cost? What and waht is needed?
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Afam (m)
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My company, a construction company, based in Liberia wants to design its web page. CAn you do it? A lot of people can design web pages. What exactly do you want the web developer to design? What do you want to achieve on your website? What functionalities do you want on the site? These questions and more are what you need to have answeres to before you ask any prospective website developer if he/she can perform or not. How much does it cost? Unless there is a clear understanding of the requirements and expectations no one can correctly quote for a job of this nature. I will advice you get in touch with a developer or better still some developers, tell them what you want and get feedbacks from them. What and waht is needed? From your end 1. Clear requirements - what you want to achieve with the site should be made very clear 2. Complete and/or relevant information that you want on the site 3. Cash unless someone decides to do it for free for you
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timmy (m)
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@brushparke OMG so you guy are among the people who dirty out jobs, au can u come out to charge 25,000..  wtf... man im not enjoying this at all. by the way can i see any of your portfolios (if not all, because i need to know your level of professionalism  )
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Afam (m)
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Hi Timmy,
You are getting worked up for nothing. You will see all kinds of promises by web developers some as low as N7,500.00 to set up top professional websites including hosting and basically everything.
The thing is that the website owners are partly responsible because they tend to reduce everything to a single parameter, price and they never get to understand the problems until they start having problems with the website developer.
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bala (m)
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goodday if you are ready i can design it for you,this is my email address bpaliyu@yahoo.com.when ever you are ready let me now so that we can discuss how you want it to be
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dejiolowe (m)
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The truth is the average customer doesn't know what he wants and doesn't want to pay good money for good quality work. That is one of the reasons why we don't have too many good sites in naija. Also, most of the 'web designers' are half bakes or unbaked (or some rats just ate the best part of them  ) and so they produce very dirty jobs. Of course, they are priced dirt cheap. I can't imagine that people still use fireworks/imageready to slice images for web. they don't know web standards, accessibility, css, AJAX, ét al. These dudes still use tables for layouts. I mean, what do you expect for 25,000? Hosting, unlimited emails. duh!!! Plain and simple. Good and professional websites are expensive. Good and reliable hosting is never too affordable. What about after sales support? Are they going to be there when you need them most? What about application support? Ruby on rails, Miva Merchant, .NET 2.0? All these guys provide only dumbed PHP, Perl and some classic ASP. What about content management system? What about content? If you see what a lot of these guys write on their website, you will weep for their grand mothers... And some of them do ahead to develop websites for 419s. Thank God, there is always a way to track and CATCH them (that is if I can)....
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4real (m)
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Well i would agree with you on that matter, but the thing is you can still put out wonderful websites, with those small softwares you talked about, and yes alot of peole do it for 419, God help any who comes to our office i would collect his money and hand him over to efcc, but in all, if you want a good soup be ready to pay, the only time i bring down my price is if i know that the person needs the site and can not pay.
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brushparke (m)
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@brushparke OMG so you guy are among the people who dirty out jobs, au can u come out to charge 25,000..  wtf... man im not enjoying this at all. by the way can i see any of your portfolios (if not all, because i need to know your level of professionalism  ) The truth is the average customer doesn't know what he wants and doesn't want to pay good money for good quality work. That is one of the reasons why we don't have too many good sites in Nigeria. Also, most of the 'web designers' are half bakes or unbaked (or some rats just ate the best part of them  ) and so they produce very dirty jobs. Of course, they are priced dirt cheap. I can't imagine that people still use fireworks/imageready to slice images for web. they don't know web standards, accessibility, css, AJAX, ét al. These dudes still use tables for layouts. I mean, what do you expect for 25,000? Hosting, unlimited emails. duh!!! Plain and simple. Good and professional websites are expensive. Good and reliable hosting is never too affordable. What about after sales support? Are they going to be there when you need them most? What about application support? Ruby on rails, Miva Merchant, .NET 2.0? All these guys provide only dumbed PHP, Perl and some classic ASP. What about content management system? What about content? If you see what a lot of these guys write on their website, you will weep for their grand mothers... And some of them do ahead to develop websites for 419s. Thank God, there is always a way to track and CATCH them (that is if I can).... This is really interesting.What is the offence in designing a promotional programme just to get more nigerians on the web? I have come to realise that so many nigerians who have very beautiful concept to sell on the web have all been discouraged by greedy web designers who due to job draught because of their poor marketting , usually want to squeeze their customers dry. i myself haven developed over twelve sites for customers , only resently dveloped my own site early this year.Why this? I was working hard to make my site look like yahoo.com forgetting that i am just a starter.Untill i realised that no matter how well and how much time you spend designing a site, you will still need to upgrade or make some changes sooner than later. so i decided that i was going to get my site onlline .Today i'm happier for it because today i already have three money making sites running with a fourth comming soon. Now how many nigerians can afford the kind of money you charge for web sites knowing that majority of those who attend money making seminars across the country do not make up to N300,000.00 per annum.i was baffled to hear someone demanding N450,000 for a simple portal.Have we ever wondered how india became the prefered destination for outsourcing amongst Americans and Europeans?Do yo know that with just $500, you can get the kind of portal you have never seen in Nigeria from these indians? Well These are issues we Nigerians should ponder about.Let's stop discouraging potential enterpreneurs as if web development is Brain surgery. Rather than condem,let's get the best out of this forum by learning from one anothers experiences.Besides N25,000 + Hosting is our lowest rate for a basic website. Every organisation has Service secrets, and jokers which is cardinal to their survival.Timmy if u want to prove me wrong, try me. Eat competition.Don't be scared of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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timmy (m)
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Timmy if u want to prove me wrong, try me. Eat competition.Don't be scared of it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! really LMFAO  .... competition from you? OMG  i don't think so man, not from what i saw on your site.. abeg really you no dey try at alllll, no be mouth ohh na experience.. Youre making the job look wack and u call that market strategy. abeg show us your 12 portfolio and lets know what you can do.. by the way i got this company who wants to pay 50,000 for a site but im so busy to touch his job, ill contact him to see if hes still down. then il pay you 12,000 to do the job plus and extra 500 just for pally sake ; LMAO 
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brushparke (m)
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hi timmy the big shot........... :'(i really feel like crying for you.It's easy for any body to give all that bull talk any way. Still we know it's 1000 times easier to criticise than creat.well keep working with your banks.Soon one of the mega banks will be so impressed they would hand you ownership of the bank.Good luck.I'll let you have the last say. What a clown!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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timmy (m)
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haa, when you know say you no get choice.. *just improve u scrapy skills*
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smartsoft (m)
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hey make i tell you if you bring yah.. body make timmy design am..Timmy go design am.. wella wella.. Hey timmy Wetin you talk say i talk huh ?
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timmy (m)
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hey make i tell you if you bring yah.. body make timmy design am..Timmy go design am.. wella wella.. Hey timmy Wetin you talk say i talk huh ?
lol, omo this guy where you dey, by the way i don't get you ohh.. wetin u yarn kee.. anyways no mind that webdesigner wey no fit value him skills, imagine (N25,000) man im still baffled
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4real (m)
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Abeg timmy what is your stress, cause your brother for somewhere has helped you with a job, you don't want the rest of us to hear word, if i charge 5,000 for my site, is it any of your biz, we all don't have big brothers to help us and so we start from the begining, and am sure your sites are not all that tech, well sha, i agree that prices should not be that low, but if a man got to eat, then a man got to work, so timmy, keep your big month shot and stop playing big boy for us 
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timmy (m)
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Abeg timmy what is your stress, cause your brother for somewhere has helped you with a job, you don't want the rest of us to hear word, @4real: see what i mean, u guys just don't have it, not even a bit.. what if i tell you i have "NEVER" used a big bros or uncle of anysorth to get a job, not once not ever, i started out on my own, walked round the streets of lagos on my own got the jobs on my own and valued my clients on my own  , see let me give you a little info, when you are good.. you don't need god fathers to solicite for you.. you guys can only do 5,000 -12000 k jobs and would never get better, because youre myopic about the whole stuff, even the admin of this site falls into that class. you don't believe a single guy can get to knock out a corporate job. but if a man got to eat, then a man got to work, well if its just to put food in your mouth, no wahala well at least a 5,000 can last you to eat all through the week... LMAO all am telling you guys is to value your skills and talent, and youre teling me am boasting *odé*..{hiss} keep your big month shot and stop playing big boy for us well if u remain the way you are, im sorry but ill have to remain the big boy i am to you 
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4real (m)
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well i never said you were a big boy i said stop claiming to be one, if were trying to give us advise do so, and not insult us, and for your info i don't collect 5,000 for food, money is no problem for me, i thank God, since my company also worked on the JAMB, WAEC database, and also project sites that we have, but i still did it cause the money is not problem, i use it to sow seeds into peoples lives, i charge don't get me wrong, but someone wants to charge 25,000 for his own job, he has his own reasons, why not just talk to him and reason with him, and tell him how he can get better money from the next job, that is why this forum is here, to talk and help each other.
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demmy (m)
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Clash of web designers!!! 
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4real (m)
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no we are not fighting ok
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timmy (m)
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the real man called 4 real, now thats the spirit.. i like that
any way, war over... k let just understand that we need to value our skilld and talent, our clients don av a choice dey av to pay.. just like what the telecomms guys and oil companies are duin.. we don't av a choice but to buy from them not minding the prices.. this way everybody can be happy.. and u can become an employer of laour at even a young age
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Afam (m)
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i was baffled to hear someone demanding N450,000 for a simple portal.Have we ever wondered how india became the prefered destination for outsourcing amongst Americans and Europeans?Do yo know that with just $500, you can get the kind of portal you have never seen in Nigeria from these indians? The quote above was from brushparke. I will demand N450,000.00 for a portal. Now, if you think that N450,000.00 is way too much and that you can do it for $500.00, it logically follows that $500.00 is way too much because someone will be ready to do it for N20,000.00, get my drift? Building a successful web business or tranforming a regula business into an online process is not just about web design and basic code tweaking. You may choose to run other people down to make your point but the fact remains that not everyone will be willing to listen to you. My site is at www.justwebservices.com. I have a few clients and they are all very happy and that is what matters. I have had to turn down more than 25 web projects for reasons ranging from unclear terms of references on the part of the client to impossible list of deliverables. I hardly advertise but these guys keep coming from already existing clients and only happy clients will refer clients to you. I never engage in price wars because it is self defeating and never lasts. One of my clients just sent me an email thanking me for turning her into a web guru simply because I installed good content management system and taught her other basic things she needed to know about managing every part of the website without my help. She even plays around with images, uploads them and she is happy. See her site at www.travelnigeria.info and see what she has turned the site into without much help from me. So, while you continue to run people down, they will be making clients happy and smiling to the bank. You must realize that web business is basically a service oriented business and it is the level of client loyalty and satisfaction that really matters and not technical jargons.
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Seun (m)
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I'm with Afam. One web design firm can charge ten times what another one charges for the same site simply because it is able to make clients more confident that the money and time they are spending on a project would not be wasted.
For some busy people, it is actually cheaper to spend an extra 200,000 naira on a website development project than to work with a cheap web developer who might waste time or make many mistakes that will have to be corrected over several weeks. Time is money, and some people value their time much more than money.
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brushparke (m)
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Afam and Seun i really love your approach to this whole thing. Atleast for recognising that everyone has got a right.Unlike what the self aclaimed bigshot was saying.
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4real (m)
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well now that the war is over, i guess we all can help each attain the height we all should get to. the main thing is that you sohlud charge what you feel is right for you to be paid.
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Afam (m)
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Thanks Seun. With time, a lot of companies will shut down their websites and look for providers that can translate their regular business to a successful online business.
The main reason I usually give prospective clients that I turn down their requests to build websites for is that I am not looking for clients that will taste the web for just one year and shut down because they cannot see any value in it.
I did a site for someone in the real estate industry for less than N20,000.00 about 2 years ago. He keeps telling me that all his peers respect him even when most of them have very expensive websites that are basicaly not effective.
He is so thrilled to the extent that he asked me if I needed to change anything as regards the functionality, style or anything. I simply informed him he could get a better website for a much higher price but since he has been a loyal client I will not charge him much and he agreed to redo the site for N100,000.00 first year and N58,000.00 subsequent years.
He is only comfortable doing so because he is happy and believes that he is in a safe hand. It is not about the money, it is about the service.
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timmy (m)
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Unlike what the self aclaimed bigshot was saying.
LMAO  , at least you can't say that about your self  anyway enough of the war, hen just relax and let loose your beef, you can't take that into the new year you know 
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