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lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #64 on: December 16, 2005, 06:30 PM »

Quote from: Geez on December 16, 2005, 06:13 PM
Larger 20, good luck on your version of heaven. Heaven cannot be boring. Boredom is human nature, in our glorified body, there will be no boredom. If you know what is it to be in a concert where your favourite artists play your favourite songs, then you can imagine the glorious mood that will forever be in heaven. Smiley Grin Shocked

have u been there for once.......how come u get to see so much bout the place.......... well I guess u reading my mind
Geez (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #65 on: December 16, 2005, 06:53 PM »

lexyflexy, I haven't been there but my interpretation or idea of heaven is what is in the bible. We will resurrect with our glorified body ( a body that is perfect - no pain, diseases, disfiguration, etc.) and ascend with the Lord to heaven. If you need more references in the bible let me know.
larger_20 (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #66 on: December 16, 2005, 07:11 PM »

Quote from: Geez on December 16, 2005, 06:13 PM
Larger 20, good luck on your version of heaven. Heaven cannot be boring. Boredom is human nature, in our glorified body, there will be no boredom. If you know what is it to be in a concert where your favourite artists play your favourite songs, then you can imagine the glorious mood that will forever be in heaven. Smiley Grin Shocked

hey listen..the angles that sinned against God in heaven where not of human body. Got created angels for good but some of them turned out to be bad. These angels does not have a human body yet they are bad. Lucifer is one of them..therefore it is possible that even after our tranform to be like the angels...there could also be bad eggs.I am not trying to be antichrist..I am just following a deductive approach to look at things.the book am writting will change peoples mentality for sure but that is for the good of mankind and for God to take his/her glory...
lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #67 on: December 16, 2005, 07:16 PM »

@ larger_20 hmmmmmmm... well, hope u know where u stand..... do not try comparing human interpretation of things to the Heavenly Cool Cool
kewe (f)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #68 on: December 16, 2005, 07:18 PM »

Quote from: lexyflexy on December 16, 2005, 04:59 PM
hey guyz.............can a non-Christian go to heaven? Cool Cool
              i dont think so
goodguy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #69 on: December 16, 2005, 07:20 PM »

Quote from: lexyflexy on December 16, 2005, 07:16 PM
@ larger_20 hmmmmmmm... well, hope u know where u stand..... do not try comparing human interpretation of things to the Heavenly Cool Cool
True talk, my guy. Wink
larger_20 (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #70 on: December 16, 2005, 07:28 PM »

Maybe on a second taught i should stop.. but we r humans and we love to explore any possibility hehe  Grin. this might end my idea to write this book...
Geez (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #71 on: December 16, 2005, 07:32 PM »

Larger 20, you can do all the deductive approach to reason, but I assured you that our reasoning and ways are not of God.
larger_20 (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #72 on: December 16, 2005, 08:19 PM »

Quote from: Geez on December 16, 2005, 07:32 PM
Larger 20, you can do all the deductive approach to reason, but I assured you that our reasoning and ways are not of God.

Exactly.........which is why I dont know if i should avoid this to prevent another Davinci code or weather to do it irrespective of what will come out of it..
Geez (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #73 on: December 16, 2005, 08:27 PM »

I will encourage you to go ahead with the book but anchor it on the bible. Davinci code is fraud and a big joke to those who do not have faith.  Smiley
lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #74 on: December 16, 2005, 09:31 PM »

Quote from: Geez on December 16, 2005, 08:27 PM
I will encourage you to go ahead with the book but anchor it on the bible. Davinci code is fraud and a big joke to those who do not have faith. Smiley

there is something u guyz aint telling us........... whats going on?
nicetohave (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #75 on: December 16, 2005, 09:33 PM »

that the Da vinci code is anti-biblical record of the birth and life of Jesus, and to read it freely without guide is opening yourself up to erroneous teaching.
Geez (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #76 on: December 16, 2005, 09:34 PM »

Larger 20 is thinking of writing a book on heaven and he has his own view of heaven, partly anchored on the bible but not completely. Check the discussion thread for details.
2_die_4
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #77 on: December 16, 2005, 09:38 PM »

The word "christian" stems from the word "Christ". Being a christian is not a religion it is a way of life, it means to be "christ-like", to live like christ did when he was on earth (as described in the bible)..
so you can call yourself a christian, but if you are not christ-like, then you are NOT going to heaven..this applies to Muslims as well, how can you be like a person that you do not believe in.? so No muslim will be going to heaven.

As far as the issue of boardom goes, i have to agree with Geez....imagine your best praise and worship session ever, and multiply that by more than a zeollion....that is just a tip of the iceberg as far as entretainement in heaven goes..

In response to Larger_20, the only reason why Jesus showed the emotion of anger is because he was born into flesh and as such for the time that he was on earth he took on the qualities of the average human....this did not and still does not make him any less holy.
nicetohave (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #78 on: December 16, 2005, 09:38 PM »

oh when the saints, oh when the saints
go marching in, go marching in
oh when the saints go marching in
oh LORD i want to be in the number
oh when the saints go marching in.
lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #79 on: December 16, 2005, 09:44 PM »

Quote from: nicetohave on December 16, 2005, 09:38 PM
oh when the saints, oh when the saints
go marching in, go marching in
oh when the saints go marching in
oh LORD i want to be in the number
oh when the saints go marching in.

and when the sun, and when the sun
begins to shine, begins to shine
and when the sun begins to shine,
Yes I want to  be in the number,
and when the sun begins to shine
we are in line joooo Grin Grin
2_die_4
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #80 on: December 16, 2005, 09:48 PM »

Oh come on guys, i am sure you can come up with a better song than that!
nicetohave (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #81 on: December 16, 2005, 09:49 PM »

put in the next try.....2 die 4 Cool
nuru (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #82 on: December 16, 2005, 09:51 PM »

It is not in tune with the teachings of Christ to profess faith without work. Those of you who believe that your faith alone will take you to paradise are missing it. Did Jesus not teach us to pray in the following manner ' forgive us our sins as we forgive those that sin against us'. If this is the condition that the great teacher says we should remind God of, who are we to claim that it is something else that will bring salvation. Jesus could have taught us to pray in a manner as below ' forgive us our sin becuase your son was ordained to die for us'.
Since he did not teach this type of invocation, to believe and hold on to anything contrary is anti-christ. Again, Nobody has said anything about the teaching of Jesus narrated from Mark 12 Vs 28. Is it irrelevant to the topic. Some seekers of Truth should crosscheck and speak up.
larger_20 (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #83 on: December 16, 2005, 09:52 PM »

Quote from: lexyflexy on December 16, 2005, 09:44 PM
and when the sun, and when the sun
begins to shine, begins to shine
and when the sun begins to shine,
Yes I want to be in the number,
and when the sun begins to shine
we are in line joooo Grin Grin

This is very funny.Anyways.as a matter of fact..I belive in God and the bible..so whatever I say will end up being in favor of GOd..however my argument is that based on deductivism.....heaven may not be a parfect place..dont be surprise some people might ask God on that day if He has a wife  Cheesy or if he ever get excited and horny.....lol ..all these little things that worry us on earth....Rememeber that there was a time when some angels came to earth and slept with our women....so...unless God takes out such a thing from us..u never know..again it is all deductivism..

The only way heaven will be perfect from my stance is for God to take out that human mentality and deductivism from our brains..that way we may lack cognition and do whatever we are told to do in heaven while enjoying the it  Cheesy Cheesy

Geez (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #84 on: December 16, 2005, 09:56 PM »

Of course no philosophy in heaven. No dedcutive reasoning. Just as little children [infants], we will all be with the Lord.
nicetohave (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #85 on: December 16, 2005, 09:57 PM »

No man born of the spirit will ask those questions; what of the spirit is spirit and what is of the flesh is flesh....waht you have just said is of the flesh and resides in the mind, which is unfruitful beyond the grave, what is of the spirit is deep-rooted in the soul and it is born of God......no man in heaven will ask God if he ever get horny.
2_die_4
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #86 on: December 16, 2005, 09:59 PM »

larger, i hear what you are saying..but bearing in mind that the only way into heaven is by being holy, would you not say that in succeeding to get into heaven, that you have already conquared that human mentality that you are talking about?..so would you not agree that if anyone has managed to get into heaven, then it should be easier in there? Because to get into heaven means that you have maneged to conquer the flesh....
Geez (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #87 on: December 16, 2005, 09:59 PM »

nicetohave, Ameeeeeeeeeeeeennnnnnnnnnnnn!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well said!
nuru (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #88 on: December 16, 2005, 10:42 PM »

Heaven is a beautiful place to be and i think majority agree that only those that believe and follow the teachings of Jesus in our generation will get there. Oluwa kami mo won. Ameen.
prettyH (f)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #89 on: December 16, 2005, 10:44 PM »

May God help us all.
lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #90 on: December 17, 2005, 10:04 AM »

AMEN o my sister Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided
nicetohave (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #91 on: December 17, 2005, 11:22 AM »

lexyflexy, do you understand the prayer you are saying AMEN to?  Smiley i really think God should help you  Cool
lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #92 on: December 17, 2005, 03:39 PM »

guess.... u guyz are only imagining what heaven is like and not what the bible tells us........ Undecided Undecided Undecided Undecided.... may una no let The Comforter slap una oooooooo
larger_20 (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #93 on: December 17, 2005, 04:28 PM »

Quote from: 2_die_4 on December 16, 2005, 09:59 PM
larger, i hear what you are saying..but bearing in mind that the only way into heaven is by being holy, would you not say that in succeeding to get into heaven, that you have already conquared that human mentality that you are talking about?..so would you not agree that if anyone has managed to get into heaven, then it should be easier in there? Because to get into heaven means that you have maneged to conquer the flesh....

Holy ke? who is holy? U? U? No one is holy except God..as fas a holy goes..no one will enter heaven then.forgivness of sin is understandable...but that is still a difficult part of the heaven deal coz we sin everyday which is why we pray for forgiveness anytime we pray.so I guess my question is...what if i have been all good and on the last day, I commit one sin..do u think am going to hell? I mean think about it..it is very difficult to george which is why we better give everything to God....
goodguy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #94 on: December 17, 2005, 04:34 PM »

Quote from: nuru on December 16, 2005, 10:42 PM
Heaven is a beautiful place to be and i think majority agree that only those that believe and follow the teachings of Jesus in our generation will get there. Oluwa kami mo won. Ameen.
Amen

Quote from: larger_20 on December 17, 2005, 04:28 PM
Holy ke? who is holy? U? U? No one is holy except God..as fas a holy goes..no one will enter heaven then.forgivness of sin is understandable...but that is still a difficult part of the heaven deal coz we sin everyday which is why we pray for forgiveness anytime we pray.so I guess my question is...what if i have been all good and on the last day, I commit one sin..do u think am going to hell? I mean think about it..it is very difficult to george which is why we better give everything to God....
When one dies, he's no longer of the flesh. He becomes a spirit being. So all forms of human mentality or reasoning will be wiped out. I tell you, even if you're in hell, you won't think of whether the devil was ever horny or not.
lexyflexy (m)
Re: Christians: Can a Non-Christian Go to Heaven?
« #95 on: December 17, 2005, 07:56 PM »

mmmmmmmmm.... Pastor Goodguy......... Cool Cool Cool
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