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ashley (f)
Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« on: June 06, 2005, 02:23 PM »

i was very curious when i found that its only obasanjo that nigerians dislike most amongst all presidents and i thought i could get my answers here
ashley (f)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #1 on: June 06, 2005, 02:27 PM »

i think it has something to do with his ugliness (not that i am trying to judge him or anything) but don't u all c that d last presidents weren't that ugly.
kazey (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #2 on: June 06, 2005, 02:43 PM »

Maybe because he speaks pidgin in public?   Grin. Well Frankly personally i do not have anything against him.
diakim (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #3 on: June 06, 2005, 02:47 PM »

The guy is too crude and blunt.
He has no regard for cordiality.
Seun (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #4 on: June 06, 2005, 03:35 PM »

He's able to command respect outside the country, africa and elsewhere.  He's able to communicate what his administration is doing in uncomplicated terms that someone like me can understand and appreciate.  He was the first military ruler ever to hand over to a civilian government.

I don't think it's a good idea to criticize President Obasanjo when there is no-one who is better?  Can you really name anyone who would have done better?

I sincerely believe that he's a good president.  I think he has done really well and I hope it won't take terror in the next regime for us to recognize that. 
Allenpowered (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #5 on: June 10, 2005, 07:23 AM »

Man who says he is the masses worst night mare...he is everybody's nightmare...from his vice prez, who does not trust him...to his ministers who fear they may just get on his bad side and he gives them the boot...and to the governors who if he does not like he would not release their allocations on a limsy excuse.

The guy is just another typical dictator...that is why he is people's night mare
dominobaby (f)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #6 on: June 18, 2005, 06:44 PM »

well aside his presidential whatever, his ugliness have not helped matters. Check this joke out:

"people wanted to honour the president by putting his face on the nigerian stamp. Well, the stamp was made but it was also found out that the stamp refuse to stick to anything. After several checks it was discovered that people were spitting on the wrong surface of the stamp!!!! Huh Tongue
Seun (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #7 on: June 19, 2005, 01:03 AM »

Yeah.  it's an adapted American joke.  I don't like it much.
Red (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #8 on: June 20, 2005, 08:42 AM »

Quote from: Seun on June 06, 2005, 03:35 PM
He's able to command respect outside the country, africa and elsewhere.  He's able to communicate what his administration is doing in uncomplicated terms that someone like me can understand and appreciate.  He was the first military ruler ever to hand over to a civilian government.

I don't think it's a good idea to criticize President Obasanjo when there is no-one who is better?  Can you really name anyone who would have done better?

I sincerely believe that he's a good president.  I think he has done really well and I hope it won't take terror in the next regime for us to recognize that. 
I'll regard your post as a very bad joke.
legs (f)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #9 on: June 21, 2005, 08:02 PM »

then perharps he may be entitled to reply... likewise!
Seun (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #10 on: June 21, 2005, 08:12 PM »

Quote from: Red
I'll regard your post as a very bad joke.

Post like that would normally be removed from an Internet forum, because you said just enough to provoke an angry response while providing no tangible explanation of your position.  When a moderator reads post like that, then he has to go through all your previous posts with a pair of scissors.
bioye (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #11 on: July 17, 2005, 07:03 PM »

Well, i have realised that so far in the history of Nigeria, Obasanjo is the best head of state we've ever had.  I hope Nigerians can look beyond a man's face and at the issues ravaging this nation. Someone says Atiku does not trust Obasanjo, are you making a case for Atiku?  Well, as a matter of fact, Obasanjo does not trust Atiku because he is the most corrupt politician in government and if Obasanjo had his way, he would have booted him out.  It's almost impossible to level any corruption charges against Obasanjo because there may be none.

Seun, i appreciate the maturity with which you responded to Red's post..
hot-angel (f)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #12 on: July 18, 2005, 07:42 AM »

Apart from him being the cutest and most adorable baboon i have ever seen, I think he is great. I mean, how many presidents will actually speak pigin in public?? it shows that the guy isn't afraid of the NIgerian English. I love him, he came up even though he was a military man, and then he became a civilian. I mean this man is great.

I have a thing for him and i know, God knew what he was doing when he choose him. How many people, have ever been committed to Nigeria like that man is. All the past presidents are full of $h!t. Obasanjo is doing great, and trust me, if that country was left to him.. without all his back-ups....That guy would do better.

People need to love that man. I don't want to curse Nigeria, but let's just wait till he get off the throne and see if y'all won't start saying "no one like obasanjo". 

Overall, obasanjo isn't a nightmare, he is a dream come true. Nigerian have been crying for a civillian government. Obasanjo brought that to them, and now they hate him and call him a "nightmare". What else do Nigerians want for FU(K's sake?  Nigerians are hard to judge and believe. They wanted civillian and they got one, IF i am right, NONE of the nigerians would want the people that competed with obasanjo to be president instead of him.  Okay now, don't get me wrong.... IF there's actually someone that's worth it..i would say obasanjo is bad. But for $h!tHead sakes, no one was better than the dude. People need to leave that man alone.

Although There's still a mystery i need to solve as to why he choose a ghost amongst all his wives.

That's my own opinion.
Imnakoya (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #13 on: August 03, 2005, 06:06 PM »

One thing we all need to learn as Nigerians is the ability to criticize constructively, and react maturely and intelligently to criticism.
Our president is a "short-fuse"; he has no tolerance for criticism, and that is not what state-man are made of. 

Moreover, anytime he takes a step forward, he ends up taking 2 steps backwards...He has tried, but he could have done much way better! 
bioye (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #14 on: August 04, 2005, 07:11 PM »

Quote from: Imnakoya on August 03, 2005, 06:06 PM
Moreover, anytime he takes a step forward, he ends up taking 2 steps backwards...He has tried, but he could have done much way better! 

can you name an example of when he took a step forward and two steps back?
Bibi (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #15 on: August 05, 2005, 01:17 PM »

I believe governing Nigeria has aged the man in recent times.
A leader is only bad in Nigeria when he's governing well.
He is bad as long as he doesnt allow people to get away with their greed.
He is a nightmare when people find it more difficult to defraud.
Imnakoya (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #16 on: August 06, 2005, 09:14 AM »

Quote from: bioye on August 04, 2005, 07:11 PM
can you name an example of when he took a step forward and two steps back?

1. Corruption (Tafa) versus Ethics (presidential  library)

2. Mega business (TransCorp PLC) versus Small and Mid Sized enterprise SME(smallscale business men like Seun and some of you, including me and others): Extend the same incentives to SMEs,  they drive the national economy worldwide, Nigeria isn't any different!  (don't even talk about SMEIS, it has not worked)

3. Transparency versus "Nepotism" / partiality : TransCorp case: hand picked cronies.

I have nothing against TransCorp though. Well, you asked for one, I gave you 3!


WesleyanA (f)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #17 on: September 04, 2005, 09:08 PM »

i don't like him that much either because i heard stuff about him (he swears or something like that).

the ibos hate him most though.hehe Tongue
Ka (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #18 on: September 05, 2005, 12:18 AM »

I think that Obasanjo's government is introducing some important necessary reforms... unfortunately, his government is terrible at explaining the nature of these reforms to Nigerians.

A case in point: fuel price increases. If the government had any sense, it would hold frequent, regular and well publicised briefings regarding the activities of NNPC (and other government agencies involved in the distribution of refined crude oil). It would state exactly what costs were involved in the distribution of fuel, what were the likely costs in the future, what they are doing to ensure the long term supply of fuel, what else they intend to do, etc. so that everybody can see for themselves how they arrive at any decisions to adjust the price of fuel.

Instead they keep quiet until an increase is inevitable, then all hell breaks loose. And it doesn't help that Obasanjo himself comes across as unfeeling and uncaring when he supports the increase in prices. Talk about a failure of communication!
verireal (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #19 on: December 24, 2005, 02:15 AM »

i will like to congratulate mr seun first of all, you are an example of a champion and this project you have taken up will surely take you up and forward. thank you for being a noble nigeria.

i believe in president obasanjo, and i know not many people can do what he is doing. i think we need to learn to respect elders because we will also grow up, and also learn to be positive in our lives. mr president is not the problem of nigeria, it is the mentality of the people and i know as a nation we will change for the better to the glory of God. thank you
Hero (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #20 on: December 24, 2005, 06:32 AM »

Quote
The guy is too crude and blunt.
He has no regard for cordiality

Sorry, but that's an sorry excuse. What you have described is exactly what any leader worth their salt needs to possess in order to be respected. No leader ever became great via being a softy. Those whom hate and slander OBJ are simply those in whom have benefited from poison in which he is currently trying to cleanse the nation of. They are the pigs in which rejoice in wallowing in the sickening slop pit in which has become of a once beautiful, cognizant land. OBJ is just the bullheaded, farmer boi- whom dared to challenge the hogs whom have taken over land, slaughter them and clean up the putrid mess in which they left in their wayward wake. GOD BLESS HIM!! 
otokx (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #21 on: December 27, 2005, 05:28 PM »

Who said Obasanjo is the worst nightmare of Nigerian Masses? Can someone have a nightmare when he is awake? I think it is the noveau rich that sleep in Nigeria while the masses are going to and fro looking for their daily bread.
bunking (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #22 on: December 28, 2005, 01:02 PM »

Quote from: Seun on June 21, 2005, 08:12 PM
Post like that would normally be removed from an Internet forum, because you said just enough to provoke an angry response while providing no tangible explanation of your position. When a moderator reads post like that, then he has to go through all your previous posts with a pair of scissors.


The guy is simply saying his mind - period.
Freedom of speech Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Akolawole (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #23 on: December 28, 2005, 02:34 PM »

Few ladies here were saying OBJ is ugly, baboon. If Baba ask them out , are they going to say no?



What is wrong in speaking pidging in public ? After all, Nigeria understand Pidgin more than English. Statistics even shows that beside Swahili, Pidgin is another very very important language.

Our English teacher teaches us that "The essence of Communication is to get feedback" , OBJ speaks pidgin and we responded.

Afterall, why do a respected Pastor in Baba Adeboye preaches in primary-school english while his peers preaches in western english ?  Huh




aNGELA-W (f)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #24 on: December 29, 2005, 04:49 PM »

 I have been reading all the contributions here and since i am new here, its educative.
I just recollected  an article i read, why maybe obasanjo is a nightmare .
I use to admire the old man, but i am gradually changing my mind.
Obasanjo dispensable  — Afenifere

And in a statement on the third term issue yesterday, Egbe Afenifere said President Obasanjo “is very much dispensable in 2007 and that indeed in post-2007 Nigeria  needs a president who can rule unlike Obasanjo.”

The group in a three-page statement signed by its National Publicity Secretary, Mr. Yinka Odumakin declared: “Before we explain why we need a president different  from the incumbent, we need to remind the nation that the argument about the indispensability of a ruler is not new in Nigeria. It would be recalled that at the peak of  Abacha infamy, the Ojo Maduekes, the Jerry Ganas, the Kunle Olajides and their ilk were telling the nation that there was no alternative to Abacha. But the very day  Abacha dozed off eternally, another head of state emerged. So much for indispensability.

“Among the reasons given by Fani-Kayode to support the presidency’s position that there is no alternative to the incumbent are the alleged running of the country “in  an efficient and equitable manner,” the anti-corruption war, boosted foreign reserve, increased agricultural production and the revival of the manufacturing sector.
“While the presidential spokesman is permitted to act like Iraqi Tareeq Azeez on the pages of newspapers because it is falsehood that pays his bills, a honest  assessment of the so-called gains revealed the reason why Nigeria needs a new vision in 2007.

“If we take the so-called “efficient and equitable” running of the country, we cannot but conclude that Fani-Kayode is talking of another country. What efficiency has  made us to depend on fuel import in six years despite spending $800 million on Turn-Around-Maintenance of our refineries? It is efficiency that has left the electricity  sector in comatose despite the several billions sunk into that sector? Is he talking of the efficiency that has ruined the aviation sector to the extent that any safe landing  of a plane on Nigeria airspace today is a miracle? Is he celebrating the efficiency that has turned our hospitals to mortuaries? What efficiency is in Anenih collecting  N36 billion to fix roads and Ogunlewe’s yet to be computed billions without any motorable road in the country? What is equitable in shielding felons in Anambra from  justice? Where is the equity in having different laws for government lackeys and another for those who disagree with it? Does equity lie in locking up somebody up for  non-violent disagreement in Afenifere and lionizing Adedibu who masterminded the invasion of Ladoja’s office by thugs and policemen during which precious lives  were lost?

‘The anti-corruption war is listed as another gain. While any right-thinking person would support any effort to fight corruption, what has taken place in the last six  years deserves a proper scrutiny. We have seen an anti-corruption war that deployed troops to Bayelsa, shut the state radio station, turned the EFCC office to an  off-shore chambers of Bayelsa Assembly just to get Alamieyeseigha out. But the protagonist of the same war entered a nolle prosequi for his cousin, Engr.  Makanjuola. Tony Anenih who could not explain how N360 billion given fo roads was spent is the Chairman Board of Trustees of the PPP today. While Bode  George was still answering questions from the EFCC, he got promoted to the position of Deputy Chairman (South) PDP. So much for the anti-graft war.

“Many Nigerians have wondered aloud why a government would be celebrating a boosted foreign reserve while the people are hungry at home. But now that the  reserves have been handed over to the Club of Creditors they should understand. The IMF-World Bank people are the ones that can laud the regime on this."

Akolawole (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #25 on: December 29, 2005, 07:40 PM »

@Angela-W
Welcome to Nairaland
You will enjoy this Forum most expecially "POLITICS"


Please always give us link to your back-up.

In your second paragraph, you mentioned Dr Kunle Olajide  in your Quote.
This must be a big mistake. Dr Kunle Olajide can never never support Abacha, he is the co-owner of Group medical hospital in Mokola Ibadan, He is from Efon-alaye, he contested AD governor's ticket with former Governor Adebayo. a seasoned politician and currently secretary general of Yoruba Council of Elders. He can never support Abacha.

In your fifth paragraph, THERE IS A BIG LIE as well. You said Bode George was promoted to the position of PDP Vice Chairman after answering questions from EFCC.
Haba ! George went to EFCC less than one month and he had been their Southwest Deputy national  Chairman for years.


 
ono (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #26 on: January 09, 2006, 01:33 PM »

Hmn, what about this one?

Kola, please read the link below.

http://www.elendureports.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=145&Itemid=33
Akolawole (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #27 on: January 09, 2006, 11:24 PM »

@ Ono

I have read it sir, everybody is entitle to his own opinion.
Is every nigeria's problem happens between 1999 and now?
ono (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #28 on: January 12, 2006, 04:44 PM »

Granted that these opinions are real and stares you in the face, then it's not a matter of everyone getting entitled to his/her own opininon. It becomes national interest.  Every statement made by that columnist is a fact an undisputable fact. It stares us all in the face.

There's no hiding place for the man OBJ.
Odeku (m)
Re: Why is Obasanjo Nigerian masses worst nightmare
« #29 on: January 12, 2006, 06:18 PM »

I don't care what any one says that man has done a wonderful job for Nigeria, as a matter of fact is is the only achieving president we have ever had. at least, thanks to his administration we have MTN AND GLO AMEN.
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