FAZE "Independent" OR 2FACE "Grass 2 Grace"

Baro
there you go again,  Do you think  MTV OR MOBO awards are organized by nigerians,  even Kennis with all the connections they got, they could not have influenced any award for tuface,  and mind you when you get nominated ,  votes are cast online

and guess what, Tu has got planty fan base,  no wonder he gets to win whenever he gets nominated, 

Baro i got a question for you and i need a reply from you

What do you take tuface for?
A bunch of talentless,senseless person that keke could just tose around or a stupid fellow who does not know what he's out there looking for? tell me,
let me tell you something,  Tuface is the best music export that nigerian as a whole can boast of as for now,  maybe in the nearest future some other artist will come up


2baba

Let me drop some hard facts about Kennis
Keke only signs an artiste if they can "use your head"(example of such acts; Tetuila, Eedris, 2face and recently Maintain) most times the contract they sign with such artistes is within the range of 80%-20% to 70%-30%. So if you don't agree to such terms they would hardly sign you, and if somehow you get yourself into their label and , you try to play smart , and try to claim your right, or "due", that's the end of you irrespective of how good you are, they wont promote/ hype your work, no shows for you and stuffs. This was the fate of Paul Play, Slam, and recently, Marvellous, Sound Sultan, Baba Dee. we all can vividly remember how Paul Play complained of not getting shows from Keke and his album not getting good promotion too. Not too long ago Sound Sultan openly accused Keke of not promoting his last album the "TextBook"(i personally feel  "Motherland" a track on that album would have gone places if Keke had, u know)

As an artiste under kennis as long as you give them your head to use:talent or no talent, they guarantee you fame, and popularity, while they smile to the bank. It's a deal, they give you the fame; awards inclusive then they collect the cheddar

Keke would do anything ;everything to bring you down the minute he discovers you are a threat to an "artiste" on his label, don't get me wrong, am not talking about competition, if it were to that it would have been cool, but Keke could go as far as telling Dejaays not to play your song, or even stealing your cds from radio and tv station. I will you give you instances; Ruggedman/Eedris 2face/Faze 2face/Kaha Marvellous /Rymzo. Let me talk a little about Kaha, Kaha schooled with blackface and tuface in IMT, they were very close both musically, he got same root and inspiration as 2face, pracically sounds like 2, equally good looking. This guy had 2 hot singles on air at a time;" Party buddy" and "Omo ele" . good song , nice and standard video, but guess what Keke made sure airtime was scarce for this guy in Lagos, quote me, i know am talking about. If not for the fact that Ruggedy was resilient and dogged , rugged would have been history considering what Keke did o bring him down, going as far as telling his "rugged" record label; Littlefish to take off Rugged from their list of artistes,


Let me give you a hint of how Keke gets awards for his acts. In recent time, Kennis is no doubt the biggest and most established in Nigeria, West Africa and almost in Africa, and i must confess that as pioneers they really did alot of work by making contacts with as many international music related bodies, they didnt just do this in a day, it was gradual, after "conquering" Nigeria, they headed for Africa, then they proceeded to Europe and America. Making them the first music setup(in our hiphop generation) that would come in contact with these foreign musical establishments and entrepreneurs. Remember how they helped star in bringing foreign acts for star mega jam, until that misunderstanding? remember how they started going to Grammies, fom backyard, they got in and secured a space for themselves. Keke and co were building contacts; smart guy. I know you going to ask me what this got to do with awards, ok. As a result of this contacts, Keke gained and earned the respect of there foriegn bodies, even thought they werent the best, but  they were the best, because they were the sole rep for Nigerian music .  So they became the link between naija music and outside, as a result whatever is coming from outside to naija music industry goes through them Keke, this means that they either collect it themselves which they often do/did or they recommend someone.(perks of being a pioneer you would say) Take it or leave it this what happens. There are things i can't say here. Part of there perks is simply the reason why when Mtv came to Africa, Keke's 2face's African queen was the first video to be aired, that honor was done Keke and no one else because i know you agree with me that that video wasnt by anyway the best video in Naija then not to talk about Africa, and besides the halo of mtv award was yet to be accorded that song at that time.


Hmmmm, story story you would say right? Still got alot more to say but my eyes are heavy, need to hit my bed

Ok so the way Kennis handles their record  label is anyone's business how? I'm wondering what this has to do with 2face and faze. Anyway if we have to say anything about that, I'm sure they definitely didn't put a gun to anyone's head before they signed. Its your responsibility to go through any contract properly before you sign. I'm glad u used Paul Play as an example he wasn't happy and he left meaning they don't tie anyone down. They do all that u mentioned and artists still sign with them. . . What does that tell u? All that stuff about establishing contacts and standing on the line outside at these award show. . . do u think its fun?? Its called aggressive marketing. They know what they want for their business and they went for it. In fact from all u mentioned about them I think I admire them more. About 2face, his song was big throughout Africa, he had the biggest single in Africa so it was only right that they launched MTV Base with his song. I have said it before and I'll say it again, both parties (2face and Kennis) fulfilled their obligation. 2face came out with a great song and album and Kennis marketed him accordingly. Thats how any kind of successful business partnership works.

All baro said are true and from these to come from his brain, he a genius. Anyone asking for link for go to the nearest media house and search their archives for past interviews from ruggedman, slam, paul play and the rest. Kennis concentrated on tuface and negelected the likes os sultan, can u imagine sultan coming to cd outlets in my area to distribute his latest album by himself, the album was well advertised by sultan himself(not kennis) with even a video released already and the due date was 7th July(07/07/07) which would have been a remarkable day but the album didnt hit shelves until he himself started to distribute his CD's, that sad.
To add to baro's claim, the kora award tuface won belonged to sasha. She won the preliminaries and was supposed to go to SA for the award but we were shocked when it was tuface who went and then u guys say kennis isnt influential. And for links to this, the preliminaries were aired on tv and everyone knew it was sasha that won, when someone asked about it on a program on rythm 93.7, it was carefully avoided, u can also get clips of that at the nearest tv station if u really want proof.

Go on Baro, we need more of ur 'truth'

and also mrmetoo the songs you mentioned don't av wack lyrics,although they are not spectacular but they are not wack either,but if you classify them as wack then i must add that 2face's one love,my love,i dey feel like,no shaking,4 instance etc all av  wack lyrics because they aren't fantastic unlike if love is a crime and true love.ocho is also a wack song but i can't comment on the lyrics because i don't understand the language.

tell me how wack is Eedris,  mind you Eedris is one artist that knows how to give out dance tracks
rememeber Mr lecturer,Oko omoge and so many others,  come to think of it, you must have rocked to Mr lecturer and oko omogeand now u tel me that Eedris is wack,  like i said with some few posts,  Eedris ended he's carrer sadly due to what between him and 50,  that led to he's one yr ban from the industry
The brother is back, doing some new joints with Rugged and Pasuma, 

Eedris is not the topic on here,  lets get down to the main topic
So you trying to tel him that all the award tu has got was influenced by Keke?

I can't even refer to anybody in particular right now all I want to ask is R U GUYS KIDDING? Eedris achieved all that? how, where, when?? Eedris, R U SERIOUS? C'mon when u guys write these things down I'm sure u think to yourselves "I'm being ridiculous right now but let me still right it down for the sake of it" How does anyone begin to compare Eedris' accomplishments to 2face. You guys should be truthful for once you hide all these truth because you guys don't ever want to face reality. In fact I think I'm beginning to like the fact you guys have to twist the facts because you guys know if you have to face reality u won't have any argument.

The lyrics to "one love" wack do u listen at all honestly, do u??? Did u hear the message that song was carrying that song probably has the most powerful message in the album. The guy was talking about love between human beings, races, and so on.

"No Shaking"- Another song with great lyrics talking about hard work and how it pays off. . . I honestly do not think u've listened because even if u HATE the guy you shouldn't say that particular song has wack lyrics.

I really can't go on because I have to leave now but please go back, listen to the lyrics of all those songs u mentioned and come back the only other one is "My Love" which for a party song has nice lyrics too. My guy please don't joke.

Then whatever Keke does is their business, no one is forced to sign and no one is forced to remain there, there are diff record labels that are springing up everywhere. I'm not trying to justify what they do because I personally hate dirty businessmen but if u know someone's reputation and u're not smart when doing business with them, then u're the stupid one. Lets not get it twisted tho', u can't sign a contract then in the middle of it decide to wake up. I'm even beginning to wonder what use it would be for Kennis not to market their artists properly?? You guys keep stressing they concentrated on 2face. . . Y would they do that?? I know its definitely not for his good looks.

All that stuff about Keke using their influence to get awards is utter CRAP. All those u things mentioned above like making contacts, going to awards and shows, etc that is what even a regular Mami Papi record label in the US would do. Its not an easy business to break into. So u think because Kenny Ogungbe stands in the line outside the auditorium they do these award shows, they're all of a sudden going to invite him into their offices and start discussing how his artist is going to win an award??? My brother no be so. . . Sorry to burst your bubble but its not the easy. First things first tell me the artists they got to interview when standing in those lines and then I'll tell u how much influence they had there. The only way Kennis would have been allowed to smell their corridors if he goes to present them with a good product and with a good product he did. I mean think about it what does he have to offer them? What the hell would Kenny Ogungbe have to offer "Fox Searchlight Pictures" & "Lakeshore records" to put his artist on their soundtrack. Lets be real here, give props where its due. All the awards and success 2face got he deserves it, HATE IT OR LOVE IT.

How does an award belong to someone? How did that "award" belong to Sasha? How is it that Sasha and 2face would be in the same category and Sasha would win? You guys would write anything down just for the sake of it. What song/album would Sasha have used to beat 2face? Mind you, this Sasha is someone I know personally so I'm definitely supposed to support her but even her can't say with her own mouth that she deserves to win an award her & 2face were up for. Whoever or wherever you got that type of gist from please next time check to see if they're alright. What a joke. I'm glad u also wrote down that something this ridiculous is where u drew all your conclusions from

men!,p'ple just hit the keyboard in desperation to reply to a storming truth.baro nd co,you guys keeps falling on my respect list everyday due to your poor analysis.if keke influence 2face in getting award,who influence d'banj?.both d'banj and psquare had been nominated for MOBO and d'banj with don jazzys mo hit record won MTV award.why can't MOBO or MTV nominate faze even once?.paul play left kennis because of poor distribution and marketing according to ur analysis,now has he make an album that surpass the success level of mosorire album released under kennis?.do you remember that tetuila was nominated for mobo after he left kennis,can you tell me whose influence he got the nomination from?.sect,sasha and 2face represent nigeria at the regional screening of KORA award in ghana,sasha won the screening but was disqualified in south africa because she only has a single out with no video whereas 2face then just released his face2face album.why are we desperate to proove what is not existing,some of u are too dumb by saying award does not represent quality,this shows that one should just state the fact here and care less about your response because they are too immature to decipher.baro, to me you are a man that argue on baseless fact,where is ur proof of 70-30 sharing formular of kennis.infact you are a LIAR kaha and 2face till now are best of friend,how come kennis were bringing him down because,2baba featured then in his video nd presently 2face feature in one of the track(heart rubber) in his yet to be release album,where does the beef comes in?.about 2face/faze.what you guys don't understand is that after faze released his first album and observed that it wasn't a success compared to 2faces,he attribute this failure to lack of danceable track in his album.he then promised his fans that his new album will feature a club banger that they can dance to,nd the result of this is kolomenta.but after some time bigger club banger were relesed(yahooze,timaya,and recently do me),kolomenta now belong to his fans alone.2face on his own after his first album which feature the monstruos hit african queen,club bangers like nfana baga,keep on rocking,.he observed that he achieved more with the music that influences people than with the club banger music,i.e he won awards and other international recognition through african queen.he decided to produced more influential music in his next album,music that will positively impact on the life of p'ple,and the product of that decision was grass2grace.it is an album you will love to hear all the time because ti preaches unity,harmony,love,faithfuness from d goverment to the govern,hardword,resilience,above all it features prayer"edumare bless you,edumare bless us 2geda".my p'ple shoe get size,okrika get quality,faze album only talk about love for boys and girls" u too fine like butterfly,i'll be ur pillow,ur hero" aint nothing but  trash.fine! there is nothing bad in making love song but everything is bad in making a whole album  love songs in a country like ours where livin is hectic.so i don't think kennis need to sweat on faze because he is not an issue as far as the bigleague of Nigeria artists is concern.

Nothing do you
2 baba

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@sect

"One love" & "No shaking" are not powerful messages but they contain messages that are preached in CHURCHES everyday and come out of the mouth of POLITICIANS regularly. Sect, I'm paraphrasing you here so I can say from what u wrote down yourself, I REST MY CASE.

Mind you, just because you use the word "fact" in your statement does not make it true you can use the word a 100x a sec it still won't make it true. Your use of the word "fact" won't change the FACT that tuface deserves his awards. If you do not have proof for something then don't come here and use the word "fact". What proof can you provide us that Kennis uses their influence to get awards, without ideal proof its just your own hypothesis which you are definitely entitled to. Notice when I used the word "fact" above its because there is enough proof everywhere that lets you know tuface deserves his awards (if u want me to enumerate i'll be glad to, although me and a couple of guy have done that times w/o number). let me give u another example, I can say its a FACT that faze doesn't have a deal with Akon, notice the use of the word again. . . Its because theres proof and I'm not talking about a website somewhere, I am talking about what came out of Akon's mouth himself. So your use of the word "fact" does not mean anything here

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i will talk later

mrmeetoo was surprised when we started saying awards were bought for tuface, well it might sound ridiculous but it's true. I can't say of mtv, channel o and rest but m sure of kora and everyone knows about it. Wondering if I'll post links? I heard it on the most reliable radio station, rythm 93.7

Paul Play's Hitsville with hits like Angel of my life, forever etc is bigger than the Moshorire Album, you can create a thread for that if you like

Tetuila got MOBO nomination while still with Keke, he got that nomination with his Ego Better album which was his last effort with Keke and ever since  he hasnt gotten any award not even local, same Tony that became the Golden boy of Africa under Keke.  Tony was nominated alongside Psquare and Batman Samini who evenually went home with the award (MOBO).

As for the Sasha Kora story,the nomination was done in a competition format, and from west Africa 2face came a distant 3rd place behind Sasha and Batman Samini. It's funny to hear Sasha was DISQUALIFIED few minutes before the award because she had just a single without a video. So singles can't or don't win awards? hmmmmm. This confirms Keke's PDP-like influence. Sasha disqualified, how about Batman? And why would it be that it was at the last minute that they realized that Sasha didn't have an album, i thought all artistes submitted their resume before the commencement of the screening? Anyway we all know what happened Keke needed that award and he got it as usual; anyhow, by hook or crook disqualification

I never said 2 and Kaha had a strain in their friendship, what i stated is that Keke made sure his(Kaha) videos got little or no airplay in Lagos because he was seen as a threat then. And i repeat this is how exactly Keke tries to bring all artistes that pose a threat to artises on his label, Faze is top on this list, means he has to contend with influence_negative of Keke, even at that Faze is still waxing stronger by he day; listen to the intro on Independent(I don come oo) then you will get a hint of what am talking about,

In a nutshell Keke's ideology is get success for his artises by ALL MEANS and stop contenders(threats to his artistes) by ALL MEANS

PEACE

Haha world class indeed,just because kennis can 'afford' to organize a show for 2face abroad and in a black community  to be precise doesnt mean he's world class,even femi kuti who won a grammy nomination isn't refered to as world class.