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Effa (m)
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BARO HAS DROPPED SOME WORDS, GUESS THE LINK TO WHAT HE HAS JUST SAID IS FROM HE'S BRAIN, no insult intended
AS MR ME TOO SAID EARLIER ON KENNIS DONT FORCE ARTIST TO GET SIGNED UNDER THERE LABEL, OLU MAINTAIN SIGNED THE KENNIS CONTRACT COS HE KNEW THE CONTRACT FAVOURED HIM, AND BARO YOU GOT IT ALL WORNG ABT EEDRIS, EEDRIS MESSED HIMSELF UP WITH THE 50 CENT SAGA WHICH EVENTUALLY LEAD TO HE'S ONE YR BANN FROM THE MUSIC INDUSTRY BY PMAN (Charley boy and Oritz Wiliki) , AND FOR SLAM I REALLY DONT KNOW WHAT HE'S PROBLEM WAS WITH KENNIS, AND FOR TETUILA THE BROTHER HIS TALENTED AND DOES HE'S THING HE'S OWN WAY AND MIND YOU TETUILA HAS GOT MAD FANS IN NIJA, GHANA TO BE PRECISED,
and if you must know, if 2 face is to renew he's contract with 2face, it wont be a 70-30 percent thing, cos keke cant do anything to bring him down, so the contract should be least 60-40,
safe 2baba
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pheesayor (m)
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All baro said are true and from these to come from his brain, he a genius. Anyone asking for link for go to the nearest media house and search their archives for past interviews from ruggedman, slam, paul play and the rest. Kennis concentrated on tuface and negelected the likes os sultan, can u imagine sultan coming to cd outlets in my area to distribute his latest album by himself, the album was well advertised by sultan himself(not kennis) with even a video released already and the due date was 7th July(07/07/07) which would have been a remarkable day but the album didnt hit shelves until he himself started to distribute his CD's, that sad. To add to baro's claim, the kora award tuface won belonged to sasha. She won the preliminaries and was supposed to go to SA for the award but we were shocked when it was tuface who went and then u guys say kennis isnt influential. And for links to this, the preliminaries were aired on tv and everyone knew it was sasha that won, when someone asked about it on a program on rythm 93.7, it was carefully avoided, u can also get clips of that at the nearest tv station if u really want proof.
Go on Baro, we need more of your 'truth'
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sect (m)
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The bottomline of baro's statement is that keke uses their influence to get awards for 2face and that resulted into 2face's massive popularity.Mr me too all those i mentioned are not direct results of quality i.e eedris has achieved all except maybe concert shows outside naija and he made his achievements through keke but he was a wack rapper then,very soon it will be maintain's turn and you & i know that he's a bad singer.[color=][/color]
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sect (m)
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and also mrmetoo the songs you mentioned dont av wack lyrics,although they are not spectacular but they are not wack either,but if you classify them as wack then i must add that 2face's one love,my love,i dey feel like,no shaking,4 instance etc all av wack lyrics cos they aren't fantastic unlike if love is a crime and true love.ocho is also a wack song but i cant comment on the lyrics cos i dont understand the language.
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Effa (m)
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4 instance,no shaking is wack i see
sometime i begin to wonder if you're not amongst those that rely on there uncle or some other relatives (thats what no shaking is all abt, telling you to get things done by yourself and dont get caught up with your hands up by yourself) Nice message, and for 4instance, the lyric is selff explanatory, Just been political minded Ocho if u must know is a christain song which delievered in he's dialete one love is more like the ghanian song, remember some ghanian artist sing hip life, thats why he got VIP on that track, and the instrumental says hip life ok, (another way of captivating he's fans in ghana) I dey feel like, just the normal lyrics that u and i can understand, just comparing he's love life to that of the names mentioned in the song,
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Effa (m)
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The bottomline of baro's statement is that keke uses their influence to get awards for 2face and that resulted into 2face's massive popularity.Mr me too all those i mentioned are not direct results of quality i.e eedris has achieved all except maybe concert shows outside naija and he made his achievements through keke but he was a wack rapper then,very soon it will be maintain's turn and you & i know that he's a bad singer.[color=][/color]
tell me how wack is Eedris, mind you Eedris is one artist that knows how to give out dance tracks rememeber Mr lecturer,Oko omoge and so many others, come to think of it, you must have rocked to Mr lecturer and oko omogeand now u tel me that Eedris is wack, like i said with some few posts, Eedris ended he's carrer sadly due to what btw him and 50, that led to he's one yr ban from the industry The brother is back, doing some new joints with Rugged and Pasuma, Eedris is not the topic on here, lets get down to the main topic So you trying to tel him that all the award tu has got was influenced by Keke?
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sect (m)
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@effa frankly speaking i dont see those song lyrics as wack,they're just okay to me,just like kolo & kpokpodikpo,they are plain nothing special,so all am saying is that if dey are wack 2 mrmetoo then 2face's own are also wack cos they are of almost the same simplicity and dont even try to defend eedris cos he's a wack singer/rapper confirmed and its no news that 2face got some his awards through keke's influence,even u urself admitted it once.
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mr me too (m)
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I can't even refer to anybody in particular right now all I want to ask is R U GUYS KIDDING?  Eedris achieved all that?  how, where, when?  ? Eedris, R U SERIOUS?  C'mon when u guys write these things down I'm sure u think to yourselves "I'm being ridiculous right now but let me still right it down for the sake of it" How does anyone begin to compare Eedris' accomplishments to 2face. You guys should be truthful for once you hide all these truth because you guys don't ever want to face reality. In fact I think I'm beginning to like the fact you guys have to twist the facts because you guys know if you have to face reality u won't have any argument. The lyrics to "one love" wack do u listen at all honestly, do u??? Did u hear the message that song was carrying that song probably has the most powerful message in the album. The guy was talking about love between human beings, races, and so on. "No Shaking"- Another song with great lyrics talking about hard work and how it pays off. . . I honestly do not think u've listened because even if u HATE the guy you shouldn't say that particular song has wack lyrics. I really can't go on because I have to leave now but pls go back, listen to the lyrics of all those songs u mentioned and come back the only other one is "My Love" which for a party song has nice lyrics too. My guy pls don't joke. Then whatever Keke does is their business, no one is forced to sign and no one is forced to remain there, there are diff record labels that are springing up everywhere. I'm not trying to justify what they do because I personally hate dirty businessmen but if u know someone's reputation and u're not smart when doing business with them, then u're the stupid one. Lets not get it twisted tho', u can't sign a contract then in the middle of it decide to wake up. I'm even beginning to wonder what use it would be for Kennis not to market their artists properly?? You guys keep stressing they concentrated on 2face. . . Y would they do that?? I know its definitely not for his good looks. All that stuff about Keke using their influence to get awards is utter CRAP. All those u things mentioned above like making contacts, going to awards and shows, etc that is what even a regular Mami Papi record label in the US would do. Its not an easy business to break into. So u think because Kenny Ogungbe stands in the line outside the auditorium they do these award shows, they're all of a sudden going to invite him into their offices and start discussing how his artist is going to win an award??? My brother no be so. . . Sorry to burst your bubble but its not the easy. First things first tell me the artists they got to interview when standing in those lines and then I'll tell u how much influence they had there. The only way Kennis would have been allowed to smell their corridors if he goes to present them with a good product and with a good product he did. I mean think about it what does he have to offer them?  What the hell would Kenny Ogungbe have to offer "Fox Searchlight Pictures" & "Lakeshore records" to put his artist on their soundtrack. Lets be real here, give props where its due. All the awards and success 2face got he deserves it, HATE IT OR LOVE IT.
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pheesayor (m)
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@mrmeetoo, obviously u dont really have time cos udidnt go thru my post properly. The Kora award tuface won belonged to sasha, she was the one the judges picked, that is what made me beleive that really most os the awards (if not all) were influenced by kennis music. Go thru my previous post well
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mr me too (m)
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How does an award belong to someone? How did that "award" belong to Sasha? How is it that Sasha and 2face would be in the same category and Sasha would win? You guys would write anything down just for the sake of it. What song/album would Sasha have used to beat 2face? Mind you, this Sasha is someone I know personally so I'm definitely supposed to support her but even her can't say with her own mouth that she deserves to win an award her & 2face were up for. Whoever or wherever you got that type of gist from pls next time check to see if they're alright. What a joke. I'm glad u also wrote down that something this ridiculous is where u drew all your conclusions from
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Effa (m)
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sect
na for where i take admit say keke win award for am
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eleshin (m)
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men!,p'ple just hit the keyboard in desperation to reply to a storming truth.baro nd co,you guys keeps falling on my respect list everyday due to your poor analysis.if keke influence 2face in getting award,who influence d'banj?.both d'banj and psquare had been nominated for MOBO and d'banj with don jazzys mo hit record won MTV award.why cant MOBO or MTV nominate faze even once?.paul play left kennis because of poor distribution and marketing according to your analysis,now has he make an album that surpass the success level of mosorire album released under kennis?.do you remember that tetuila was nominated for mobo after he left kennis,can you tell me whose influence he got the nomination from?.sect,sasha and 2face represent nigeria at the regional screening of KORA award in ghana,sasha won the screening but was disqualified in south africa because she only has a single out with no video whereas 2face then just released his face2face album.why are we desperate to proove what is not existing,some of u are too dumb by saying award does not represent quality,this shows that one should just state the fact here and care less about your response because they are too immature to decipher.baro, to me you are a man that argue on baseless fact,where is your proof of 70-30 sharing formular of kennis.infact you are a LIAR kaha and 2face till now are best of friend,how come kennis were bringing him down because,2baba featured then in his video nd presently 2face feature in one of the track(heart rubber) in his yet to be release album,where does the beef comes in?.about 2face/faze.what you guys dont understand is that after faze released his first album and observed that it wasn't a success compared to 2faces,he attribute this failure to lack of danceable track in his album.he then promised his fans that his new album will feature a club banger that they can dance to,nd the result of this is kolomenta.but after some time bigger club banger were relesed(yahooze,timaya,and recently do me),kolomenta now belong to his fans alone.2face on his own after his first album which feature the monstruos hit african queen,club bangers like nfana baga,keep on rocking,.he observed that he achieved more with the music that influences people than with the club banger music,i.e he won awards and other international recognition through african queen.he decided to produced more influential music in his next album,music that will positively impact on the life of p'ple,and the product of that decision was grass2grace.it is an album you will love to hear all the time because ti preaches unity,harmony,love,faithfuness from d goverment to the govern,hardword,resilience,above all it features prayer"edumare bless you,edumare bless us 2geda".my p'ple shoe get size,okrika get quality,faze album only talk about love for boys and girls" u too fine like butterfly,i'll be your pillow,your hero" aint nothing but trash.fine! there is nothing bad in making love song but everything is bad in making a whole album love songs in a country like ours where livin is hectic.so i dont think kennis need to sweat on faze because he is not an issue as far as the bigleague of 9ja artists is concern.
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d1twista (m)
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2FACE really try but the video's na mess up and a big dirty slap on so called Kennis, Face humm both the audio and videos are good and i will be waiting for the day 2face will think and leave Kennis,
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Effa (m)
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men!,p'ple just hit the keyboard in desperation to reply to a storming truth.baro nd co,you guys keeps falling on my respect list everyday due to your poor analysis.if keke influence 2face in getting award,who influence d'banj?.both d'banj and psquare had been nominated for MOBO and d'banj with don jazzys mo hit record won MTV award.why can't MOBO or MTV nominate faze even once?.paul play left kennis because of poor distribution and marketing according to your analysis,now has he make an album that surpass the success level of mosorire album released under kennis?.do you remember that tetuila was nominated for mobo after he left kennis,can you tell me whose influence he got the nomination from?.sect,sasha and 2face represent nigeria at the regional screening of KORA award in ghana,sasha won the screening but was disqualified in south africa because she only has a single out with no video whereas 2face then just released his face2face album.why are we desperate to proove what is not existing,some of u are too dumb by saying award does not represent quality,this shows that one should just state the fact here and care less about your response because they are too immature to decipher.baro, to me you are a man that argue on baseless fact,where is your proof of 70-30 sharing formular of kennis.infact you are a LIAR kaha and 2face till now are best of friend,how come kennis were bringing him down because,2baba featured then in his video nd presently 2face feature in one of the track(heart rubber) in his yet to be release album,where does the beef comes in?.about 2face/faze.what you guys don't understand is that after faze released his first album and observed that it wasn't a success compared to 2faces,he attribute this failure to lack of danceable track in his album.he then promised his fans that his new album will feature a club banger that they can dance to,nd the result of this is kolomenta.but after some time bigger club banger were relesed(yahooze,timaya,and recently do me),kolomenta now belong to his fans alone.2face on his own after his first album which feature the monstruos hit african queen,club bangers like nfana baga,keep on rocking,.he observed that he achieved more with the music that influences people than with the club banger music,i.e he won awards and other international recognition through african queen.he decided to produced more influential music in his next album,music that will positively impact on the life of p'ple,and the product of that decision was grass2grace.it is an album you will love to hear all the time because ti preaches unity,harmony,love,faithfuness from d goverment to the govern,hardword,resilience,above all it features prayer"edumare bless you,edumare bless us 2geda".my p'ple shoe get size,okrika get quality,faze album only talk about love for boys and girls" u too fine like butterfly,i'll be your pillow,your hero" aint nothing but trash.fine! there is nothing bad in making love song but everything is bad in making a whole album love songs in a country like ours where livin is hectic.so i don't think kennis need to sweat on faze because he is not an issue as far as the bigleague of Nigeria artists is concern.
Nothing do you 2 baba
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tosinadeda
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@mrmeetoo, obviously u don't really have time because udidnt go through my post properly. The Kora award tuface won belonged to sasha, she was the one the judges picked, that is what made me beleive that really most os the awards (if not all) were influenced by kennis music. Go through my previous post well
fisayo are u drunk on water or wut  2face sasha, how dem take join 
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sect (m)
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@Eleshin You talk as if you are 2face himself, or you were there when 2face recorded his songs in the studio. 2face observed this and that and thats why he didnt do this bla bla bla, rubbish, infact i consider that as an excuse for 2face not producing a hit in his album, if he doesnt want a party jam, then why did he sing my love and use a dance beat for no shaking, they are both club bangin songs and 2face isn't the only artist that sings influentual songs,neither is he the only person who prays in his music ( a little one for that matter) so that does not stand him out, its also normal for artists to sing songs that will positively impact pple and b4 you criticize faze's love songs you should remember that he's an r&b artists,thats what they mostly sing and who the hell says its wrong to sing love songs in an hectic country??? and yes you right abt kolomental,it now belongs to his fans just like Ijoya,Why me,bizzy body remix and lately yahooze so there's absolutely nothing wrong withthat, kolomental's fading out is normal and it will surely happen to psquare's do me.Eleshin the way i see it, the reason why you dont like faze's albim is cos it mostly contains love songs and its normal for that to happen but sometimes things u dont like are usually better than the ones you like @Mrmetoo I never said eedris achieved all 2face's accomplishments,i only said he accomplished what i stated earlier on except outshore musical shows and there's nothing powerful in one love's message,its something we hear everyday in churches,seminars even politicians talk about one love, same as no shaking, its an everyday message and also people know that keke used his influence to buy some awards for 2face,its an old fact and i dont think i'll want to argue on that issue again,no one is forcing you to believe it so you av the right to think its a lie. Adios
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mr me too (m)
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@sect
"One love" & "No shaking" are not powerful messages but they contain messages that are preached in CHURCHES everyday and come out of the mouth of POLITICIANS regularly. Sect, I'm paraphrasing you here so I can say from what u wrote down yourself, I REST MY CASE.
Mind you, just because you use the word "fact" in your statement does not make it true you can use the word a 100x a sec it still won't make it true. Your use of the word "fact" won't change the FACT that tuface deserves his awards. If you do not have proof for something then don't come here and use the word "fact". What proof can you provide us that Kennis uses their influence to get awards, without ideal proof its just your own hypothesis which you are definitely entitled to. Notice when I used the word "fact" above its because there is enough proof everywhere that lets you know tuface deserves his awards (if u want me to enumerate i'll be glad to, although me and a couple of guy have done that times w/o number). Lemme give u another example, I can say its a FACT that faze doesn't have a deal with Akon, notice the use of the word again. . . Its because theres proof and I'm not talking about a website somewhere, I am talking about what came out of Akon's mouth himself. So your use of the word "fact" does not mean anything here
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sect (m)
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Like i said b4,you can believe whatever you like and concerning d akon issue,i tot we've been through all that,i dont know why u guys kip accusing faze & leave akon out of it.Akon announced dat he'd signed up faze & dis same akon denied faze on tv,hiphopmagzine carried both news only that dey didn't show on tv,when akon anounced faze as konvict but that still does not squash d fact dat akon signed up faze cos dey confirmed it b4 pastin d news on their web.Well,evry1 is stil waiting 4 faze's side of d story.
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vowiski (m)
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i will talk later
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Effa (m)
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Sect am gonna repeat this again oh
How did keke use he's influence to win awards for 2face? Dont tell me craps like Kennis musci is the best in Nigeria and africa , with this he could win awards for he's artist, give me a reasonable word ok
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pheesayor (m)
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mrmeetoo was surprised when we started saying awards were bought for tuface, well it might sound ridiculous but it's true. I cant say of mtv, channel o and rest but m sure of kora and everyone knows about it. Wondering if I'll post links? I heard it on the most reliable radio station, rythm 93.7
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playmate (f)
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its like some pple dnt no keke in particular,he's a kind of guy dat'll do anything 4 self glorification. @effa kennis music ain't d best in naija bt its d most influential in naija nd probably d whole of africa.
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Baro (m)
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Paul Play's Hitsville with hits like Angel of my life, forever etc is bigger than the Moshorire Album, you can create a thread for that if you like
Tetuila got MOBO nomination while still with Keke, he got that nomination with his Ego Better album which was his last effort with Keke and ever since he hasnt gotten any award not even local, same Tony that became the Golden boy of Africa under Keke. Tony was nominated alongside Psquare and Batman Samini who evenually went home with the award (MOBO).
As for the Sasha Kora story,the nomination was done in a competition format, and from west Africa 2face came a distant 3rd place behind Sasha and Batman Samini. It's funny to hear Sasha was DISQUALIFIED few minutes b4 the award cos she had just a single without a video. So singles cant or don't win awards? hmmmmm. This confirms Keke's PDP-like influence. Sasha disqualified, how about Batman? And why would it be that it was at the last minute that they realized that Sasha didn't have an album, i thought all artistes submitted their resume before the commencement of the screening? Anyway we all know what happened Keke needed that award and he got it as usual; anyhow, by hook or crook disqualification
I never said 2 and Kaha had a strain in their friendship, what i stated is that Keke made sure his(Kaha) videos got little or no airplay in Lagos cos he was seen as a threat then. And i repeat this is how exactly Keke tries to bring all artistes that pose a threat to artises on his label, Faze is top on this list, means he has to contend with influencenegative of Keke, even at that Faze is still waxing stronger by he day; listen to the intro on Independent(I don come oo) then you will get a hint of what am talking about,
In a nutshell Keke's ideology is get success for his artises by ALL MEANS and stop contenders(threats to his artistes) by ALL MEANS
PEACE
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mr me too (m)
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This "Kora" awards u guys are talking about, I don't know how its done o but what kind of award show do u know the winners before its presented? Or how do u know who came first, second, or third? These questions are just bugging me. If u actually know the winners before its presented then I don't really care about that, there are so many more important awards 2face has won. Pheesayor, all u said about the award is your own but at least I'm happy u said u don't know about MTV and Channel O and the rest. If u guys really knew the winners beforehand then the whole awards is flawed already
P.S. @pheesayor, Point of correction I wasn't surprised when u guys started talking about buying awards, I found it very ridiculous and laughable because it was coming from a group of people making a desperate attempt to put a lesser rated artist and a world class artist on the same level.
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sect (m)
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Haha world class indeed,just cos kennis can 'afford' to organize a show for 2face abroad and in a black community to be precise doesnt mean he's world class,even femi kuti who won a grammy nomination isn't refered to as world class.
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Baro (m)
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The winner of the KORA award wasnt predetermined, it was organized in a way that its was like a competition or screening and the first two acts that emerged were Sasha representing Nigeria and Batman Samini for Ghana, the eventual winner was supposed to picked from this two acts, not someone who wasnt within the purview of those to be considered for he award. What simply happened , was that Keke as usual used his subteranean negative powers to sustitute Tuface for Sasha, and went ahead to make sure Tu won the award.
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jejelolatu (f)
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Chineke, baro do u know what LIBEL means? No offence meant, but am amazed at d way sum peeps here run their mouths like gutters . It would be appropraite if we al stuck to d facts and stopped twisting d truth to suit our biased points of view. We both knw dat al u said in your last post is bulls shyte. u cnt prove nada, moreso F Y I, tu won dat award d year after sasha got d nomination. Jeez, u are soo lucky dat keke doesnt need your COINS, he should sue u for libel, defarmation and false accusation.
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Baro (m)
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Yeah , the truth is bitter and it hurts, you know what maybe you should do your research on what i just said. As for Keke suing me, hahahahahaha, it would be my pleasure, and mind you only the court can determine what's is libelous and defamatory.
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Effa (m)
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Baro Baro you know most times your post makes me wanna insult you, But i sure wont ok How would u say keke probably organizes shows for tu within black community abroad, Thats trash you know that I also watched the so called comptetion, it was held in Ghana and Tu face came second while sasha came first So baro you telling me the competition was to determine the eventual winner or that will eventually determine the first two that would be considered winners in the real award, Picture tu and sasha in the same group, and tell me the winner? You always say keke buys awards for he's artist, Who told you that or how did you come to know that Better dont say things that will get you into trouble If tu is not world class then faze is? Arrant Nonsense
Pheesayor better dont spoil the good name rythm 93. 7 has
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sect (m)
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It wasn't baro who said that keke used to organize shows for 2face,it was me and thats the truth,if you watched primetime africa those days when 2face was still an up and coming musician,you wont dare to argue this with me.
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