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Drusilla (f)
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I guess we have to start in the Garden.
I love the fact that a lot of the Creation stories of various Africans refer to a woman, food and God being mad and this causing the separation of mankind from God.
This matches the bible, that's why I like it.
Then of course the Egyptians we know declared themselves Gods by secular historians.
This also matches the bible in the garden. They could be like God.
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Drusilla (f)
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Then of course there is the story of Cain.
A people marked and sent away.
Who vow to get revenge for their removal.
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paddy_lo (m)
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@dru what do you suppose was cains markthere have been lots of speculation. . .
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Drusilla (f)
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Paddy_Lo,
Well this Exodus and marking of Cain. Even the vow to get revenge. Basically amounts to Dr. Welsing's theory of Colors. So the speculation would be that those were the African Albino's.
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Drusilla (f)
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Evolutionists say the first group who left Africa was later wiped out. Dissapeared.
The bible says there was a big flood, killed everybody.
Also according to anthropologists, Africoid bones are found all over the world.
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Drusilla (f)
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Evolutionist of course say there was a second exodus out of Africa.
The bible also talks about a second exodus out of Africa. This time it was Moses and the 12 tribes.
We need to pause here and talk about the Egyptians who enter the picture here as part of the Exodus.
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Drusilla (f)
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First Joseph takes the Egyptians into slavery.
Then the Egyptians take Joseph's people into slavery.
God tells the Jews that while none of Canaanites (who remained in what would later become the boundaries of Israel) can EVER enter the camp. The Egyptians can enter the camp after 10 generations.
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Drusilla (f)
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God promises to make the Egyptians lowly by making them so few.
Eze 29:12 And I will make the land of Egypt a ruin in the midst of the ruined lands; and her cities shall be deserted forty years among the cities that are laid waste. And I will scatter the Egyptians among the nations, and will scatter them through the lands. Eze 29:13 Yet so says the Lord Jehovah: At the end of forty years I will gather the Egyptians from the peoples where they were scattered. Eze 29:14 And I will bring again the captivity of Egypt, and will cause them to return to the land of Pathros, into their homeland. And they shall be a low kingdom there. Eze 29:15 It shall be the lowest of the kingdoms, and shall no more exalt itself above the nations. For I will make them so few, that they shall no more rule over the nations.
God also promises the Egyptians slavery.
Isa 20:3 And Jehovah said, Just as My servant Isaiah has walked naked and barefoot three years, a sign and wonder on Egypt and on Ethiopia; Isa 20:4 so shall the king of Assyria lead away Egypt's prisoners, and the Ethiopian exiles, young and old, naked and barefoot, even with uncovered buttocks, to the shame of Egypt.
Some people understand:
", that the depletion of so many slaves often the strongest and biggest Africans is what put Africa in a vunerable position, before slavery Europeans negotiated with Africans not colonized them, "
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JustGood (m)
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Why don't you take this thread to the right forum? must you try to brainwash Nigerians in your stupid belief that you know more than we do?
FYI. we don't need to know anything about your black history. It has no bearing on our lives as Nigerians.
so shove it up your ****
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Drusilla (f)
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God promises the Egyptians they will be returned to their land. Eze 29:13 Yet so says the Lord Jehovah: At the end of forty years I will gather the Egyptians from the peoples where they were scattered. The number 40 is prophetic in the bible. So now you know, the bible promises that the Egyptians will be returned to their lands also, not just the Jews.
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Drusilla (f)
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Alright. We have sorta touched on the history of Blacks from a biblical point of view.
The Rise, The Fall, The Punishment, The Restoration.
Now for all the details.
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Drusilla (f)
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Aha Mena The First Pharoah.
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Donzman (m)
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I'm beginning to question your sanityBlack History and you start discussing Cain and Abel, na wa o!
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Drusilla (f)
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Donzman,
I don't believe in the 'monkey to man' theory. So I just started from where I do believe. The bible.
Adam and Eve had to be Black. Cain and Able had to be Black.
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LiquidMind (m)
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Black people will rule the world again very soon and the white folks are very afraid of that
I LOVE BEEN BLACK
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delf747 (m)
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author=Drusilla date=117210284I don't believe in the 'monkey to man' theory. So I just started from where I do believe. Errr, would that be where human children are compared to dogs?
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Drusilla (f)
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Delf747,
That would be where human children are said to come from simian anscestors.
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dblock (m)
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Black people were prob--, the first people so Adam and Eve were prob-- black. The first balck people were prob-- in North Eastern africa in the countries of; Somalia, eritea, Libya, Egypt(hmm), Sudan and further south to Tanzania and Kenya, this people migrated in different paths. The black people in Sudan prob-- migrated to Nigeria and the rest of West Africa, then the black people in West and Central Africa + the ones in Tanzania and Kenya migrated to sounthern Kenya. Okay what is the relevance of what I've just said 
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Drusilla (f)
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dblock,
The relevance is this:
In the North East, you see old, old cultures with much around them showing how they invented most everything. Science, Agriculture, Religion, etc, etc.
Then an event happenned -- namely foreigners OVER RAN the North East and began a systematic wiping out and removal of everything black.
They took Egyptian names and erased Egyptian pictures and put their own on some tombs. (This is why you see confusing yellow Egyptians.)
That's according to Manetho and Josephous and other Ancient and modern historians.
So the people of the Northeast ran deeper into Southern and Western Africa to keep from being caught as slaves.
Thus you are looking at the remnants of a people trying to restart over from the begining.
So there are Young and Newer Kingdoms when you come to West Africa --Ghana, Mali, Songhai.
If you get Diop's book, Civilization or Barbarism, he shows all the various academic fields in which there is evidence for instance that Nigeria shared the same religious symbols as Egypt at one time.
He proves without a doubt that the cultures of Africa, are well related to Egyptian culture.
And unless you understand this, you will look at history the wrong way. (Diop)
*corrections will be done later.
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dblock (m)
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That's very True 
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dblock (m)
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Nice map, but your map doesn;t explain where the Berbers on te other side of North Africa came from 
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Drusilla (f)
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dblock,
I just made that map to kind of show what I have in mind about why the cultures of Africa look so lopsided, as if there was only development and civilization in the Northeast and none in the Western, Southern parts.
So all these younger cultures appear in West Africa and somewhat South Africa.
Why is this important?
Because if you cut off West Africans and South Africans from the Northeast, it just looks like they did not develop.
But if you realize that an event has happenned to these people that made them have to restart their civilizations, then you understand why Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Oyo, etc. are younger civilizations put together in their new home.
Proverb about what I am saying:
It would be a big mistake to see Mississippi and ASSUME that the people there never developed homes.
Just because you do NOT know or understand about HURRICANE KATRINA coming in there and flattening their homes and forcing them to flee and live in their cars and hotels, trailers, etc, etc.
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Drusilla (f)
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Dblock, The Original Berbers are all marked down as Black people who circumsized their kids as only Africans were known to do at that time. These are people pushed by the desert more towards the north but part and parcel of the North Eastern cultures. I have highlighted some parts of Berber history that may be of interest to you, explain a few things to you: For many centuries the Berbers inhabited the coast of North Africa from Egypt to the Atlantic Ocean. Over time, the coastal regions of North Africa saw a long parade of invaders, settlers,[3] and colonists including Phoenicians (who founded Carthage), Greeks (mainly in Cyrene, Libya), Romans, Vandals and Alans, Byzantines, Arabs, Ottomans, and the French and Spanish. Most if not all of these invaders have left some imprint upon the modern Berbers as have slaves brought from Southern Europe to the Barbary_Coast by Barbary pirates (one estimate place the number of Europeans brought to North Africa during the Ottoman period as high as 1.25 million)[2].
Amongst the people who had entered and settled with the autochthonous people of North Africa, are the 80,000 families of Germanic Vandals also referred to as "The Barbarians" by the Romans and the Mediteraneans in general who neither perished nor retuned to Germania, but melted with the natives which ultimately resulted in the eviction of the Roman forces from North Africa. Understand that what remnants you see of the Berbers are those of a culture highly infiltrated and overrun by white cultures, even Germans for heavens sake.
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dblock (m)
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I know that the original Berbers weren't Arabs, or Europeans, but their general appearance doesn't hint any possibilty of Black lineage. It seems to me that they are native to the Area, they've being interwoven into many societies and intergrated and immigrated to other countries, outside of Africa, I.e Europe(notably Spain, Portugal and Italy) and even as far as Israel, but they remain native, one question; If they are descendant of Black Africans, how far back did they start to gentically seperate from Black people and become their own people? 
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Drusilla (f)
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Dblock,
Just think that it took less than 600 years to have the Africans, Indians, Europeans (spainards, etc) blending in South America for them to see themselves as Hispanic.
To the point now, where I have been shocked to see children's school textbooks, actually calling the ANCIENTpeoples of South America -- Hispanics.
Before the Spanish ever came to South America!
The point being that around us we have examples of genetic blending and changing identity's right near us. And it only took a mere 600 years.
If you look at Berber history, you can see that the genetic blending began far earlier than 600 years ago, a very rough estimate would be about 3000 years ago.
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dblock (m)
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True, it's starting to make a lot of sense now. It seems to me that Continental Africa is some sorta Migration Puzzle, that you seem to be unravelling
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Drusilla (f)
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Dblock,
This type of "Puzzle" has been misused by those who wish not to see anything worthy in Africans and basically wish to cut them off from the rest of the world.
It works the same way to this day. This is why there is a great desire to cut African Americans off from their West African roots.
Let me put it this way.
Whites have always had slavery. It was the West African slave in the America's who finally destroyed the slavery system that had existed in White civilizations for thousands of years before they met West Africans.
West Africans slave descendants who brought Democracy to White civilizations.
West African slave descendants who brought Rights to White civilizations.
West African slave descendants who even were the first to think about women's rights.
In Western Civilization the most recent Enlightenment has been the recognition of the humanity of all human beings.
West Africans slave descendants brought that to the table and forced it upon their culture. Which had no such thing before WA brought it.
Not to include countless inventions of the West African slaves and their descendants.
Cutting the African American off from their West African roots, (i.e. anything they have done should be attributed to just Americans) with the single intent of making it appear that West Africans have never done anything in this world.
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delf747 (m)
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In the North East, you see old, old cultures with much around them showing how they invented most everything. Science, Agriculture, Religion, etc, etc.
,,,,,,,[whites have],,,,,,, the single intent of making it appear that West Africans have never done anything in this world.
Drusilla, Who needs the white man to do that when you've got Afrocentrics? You want to make Black America the crowning glory of African civilization. In the process you have turned the whole of West Africa into a refugee camp. A half-way house between North East Africans (who invented everything  ) and American democracy. LOL.
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stranger12
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what is the proof your map?
There is no proof of any "great migration". I could also argue that in an attempt to escape slavery, people moved northerly from west Africa but the Sahara desert limited the migration. History of migrations are most times marred by focus on the leaders of such migration. For instance Moses might have migrated with some Israelites but history would paint it otherwise because the focus is on Moses.
archeology shows civilization that dates 1000 years in Nigeria. The Nok head sculptures are less refined version Ife sculptures and it is about 2000 years old. The Ife head is about 1000 years old. These two cultures are about 200 miles apart. This is not rocket science but common sense. Please don't jump into the conclusion that the two groups are the same. On the other hand note that people don't get isolated from the outside world except there is a barrier like water, or desert. Even those barriers are not strong enough to stand the test of time.
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