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GentlBlunt (m)
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Most of yal' must have kept vigil on this post.  I guess the first issue by the gay society is the acceptance of the inferioty complex impose on them by the straight community. For most of you that are quick to yank bible passage out to condemn someone being gay. I don't see any favor you are doing God by casting someone as blacksheep when you can not yourself stretch out a helping hand to see how this fellow can change (if at all there is a need for change). FOR THOSE WHO ARE AGAINST SOMEONE BEING GAY. 1. Is there a particular church or ministry that you can refer gay people to for a change? I need Pastor names and Phone numbers. 2. Is there a Medical findings, medications that can fix gayism? 3. Is there a shrink or pyschologist that can make gay people turn straight. If you can't fix it, I guess you let it be. Most of you spewing this religious words are probably, dealing with one issue or the other in your closet. For e.g Masturbation, devotion to porn sites, keeping grudge, formication and so on. May the Lord have mercy. If you have issue with what I said, just reply with a PM. Make sure you are literate enough to a logical conversation. |
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prince_onx
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is this the same hot-angel that want to kiss another lady? I don't think so..........
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WesleyanA (f)
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I work with them, I'm in school with them, and I see them almost everyday! I don't go around telling them its wrong being gay unless they mention it to me! for some reason they feel specail saying that word "I'm Gay" and for some reason I feel very specail too just like most of us here that will tell them the truth that being gay is horrible! two diff thing (being gay) not them as a person but their sexual act which I still don't know how you claim or believe they can be gay without sex with same sex. I'll advice you to quit your job and look for an "all straight" job if it bothers you that much. you hate gays because they're special?  Don't feel bad. you're special too. just like everybody else. i know a gay guy who's never had sex (he told us and it shows all over him). does that mean he isn't gay in your definition for gay? You said Nigerians are not accommodating in issues like this! I think thats the only right thing you said. No we're not! awwww. doesn't it feel good to have untolerant people who support your opinion like some Nigerians who go about burning houses of christians and muslims in the name of "i can't accommodate a muslim or christian because it's wrong? i'm Nigerian too just so you know. and i feel special for being accommodating. i'll accmmodate you if you promise to be nice. so if this guy/girl walk in here to know if its right to be GAY/LESS. and expect us (NIGERIANS) to trow a red carpet on the floor for him/her, sorry you're asking the wrong people! i understand. you hate the gay girl because she's special.  i get you! YOUR SPECIAL TOO! i hope that made you feel better. i personally think they're special too because many people discriminate against them and hate them like white people used to discriminate against blacks before they came to their senses. i love them! know its wrong they just can't help it! .if you can hate people knowing it's wrong to hate,then i don't think homosexualism is that bad. WesleyanA I really think you're too emotional to advise someone in this situation cux you care more about their feelings and not hurting them instead of telling them the truth that's what the world's about. be good to your fellow human beings. violence in the name of intoleration is what you should avoid. today it's Nigeria burning some people's house and kids because he's a muslim. do they have hearts at all? .... ............................ I know grandparents that's are in their 90's in Nigeria that have never heard that word GAY/LESS. before how do you explain that in a native language to them! Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee! oh really, do they read the bible? they probably know it by a different name.. . do your grand parents speak english? they probably call it something else in yoruba or hausa or ibo. my grandparents don't speak english that much either. let me tell you the truth there has always been homosexualism. it's just that it was practiced behind closed doors no one dare say it openly for fear of being hanged. but today, there are somepeople (minus you) who have hearts and are tolerant. It's a free world.  |
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prince_onx
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Good point Gentlblunt. I mentioned in my post that this is an act this people can't help! some of them like it some don't! all I'm saying is that its a wrong and horible act not them as a person for those that still can't get it!
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hot-angel (f)
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Good point Gentlblunt. I mentioned in my post that this is an act this people can't help! some of them like it some don't! all I'm saying is that its a wrong and horible act not them as a person for those that still can't get it!
Hunnie... if i missed something, im sure i must have missed the part where u said "It's an act they can't help".. your posts keeps saying "what they do is bad, so that makes gay/less people bad". I know u didn't say this directly, but that's the tone of your post. Plus what do you mean is an act they can't HELP? An act they can't help?? That just sounds too arrrghhh.... They can't help?? I'm still trying to figure out what u mean by that. Are you saying gay people can't help being GAY? Does that mean straight people can't help being straight? I don't get what you mean by some of them like it and some don't. Why do u think they'll be gay if they don't LIKE being gay? Like hello that's not even the point, this isn't about asking whether or not freewilly likes being gay. She's asking if it makes her horrible for being gay. SHe must love being gay if she's gay. |
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prince_onx
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WesleyanA you still don't get it! nobody hates anybody! gay or straight! but the act of gayism (the act) that people don't like! I'll chose to live next door to a gay person than a serial killer but that don't mean I like or will encourage his sexual act or preference!
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hot-angel (f)
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Do you know that there's no way you can like somebody if you DON'T LIKE what they are?
I wonder how u espect yourself to like gay people (people that are gay)... if you think being Gay is bad.
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WesleyanA (f)
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WesleyanA you still don't get it! nobody hates anybody! gay or straight! but the act of gayism (the act) that people don't like! I'll chose to live next door to a gay person than a serial killer but that don't mean I like or will encourage his sexual act or preference!
see, your comparing a homosexual to a serial killer (the worst form of criminal act). i really get you a 100%. my point is: you don't have to accept people's believes to accept the people. you might not accept homosexualism but you have to accept homosexuals. there are people who believe homosexualism is right and people who believe it's wrong. have you heard the phrase : treating people equaly regardless of race, sex, age, disability, orientation, background or creed? .. a homosexual is no different from you just as a white man is no different from you. were all the same. it's your attitude/character that matters! if you can't be acceptive of them and label them horrible. sorry to burst your bubble but you're the horrible one here!. you're saying you don't dislike gays and lesbians but your past posts proove other wise. do you want me to requote your previous post? you said it yourself that you can't accomodate a gay person because of his/ her sexual orientation. that's almost the same thing as "i can't accomodate an asian guy because he's from China. and he's different from me" . |
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GentlBlunt (m)
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Gay people don't produce Gay trait. Straight people does. I wonder what this people that are shouting gay will do if one of their children come out to be gay. I mean can someone tell me what people do protect a child not turning gay? opinion please?
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hot-angel (f)
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You'll get so many "Bring your child up in the way of the lord" replies. Just wait and see.
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WesleyanA (f)
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Gay people don't produce Gay trait. Straight people does. I wonder what this people that are shouting gay will do if one of their children come out to be gay. I mean can someone tell me what people do protect a child not turning gay? opinion please?
i know right they'll probably kill their children. but on the other hand, the children really might not tell them and keep it secret so they need not worry. Prince-onx for example, his child would never reveal that to him if he loved his life. maybe some people in the bible are gay. they keep it secret so no one knows some gay men have wives too. just so you know. |
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K2DaC (f)
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why do u guys type novels for goodness sake.
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prince_onx
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if you think all gay people like being gay, then you really need to sit down and talk with one! one is related and living close to me so I'm speaking from esperience. Some of them where molested so much into liking/doing it!, is that a condition they can help? Don't you think they wish they can change that? why do you think some do it and still hide it even though they like it? Yes you can like someone without liking some of the things they do! can you like or love someone somuch that you can't even tell then when they're doing something wrong?
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hot-angel (f)
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if you think all gay people like being gay, then you really need to sit down and talk with one! one is related and living close to me so I'm speaking from esperience. Some of them where molested so much into liking/doing it!, is that a condition they can help? Don't you think they wish they can change that? why do you think some do it and still hide it even though they like it? Yes you can like someone without liking some of the things they do! can you like or love someone somuch that you can't even tell then when they're doing something wrong?
well hunnie, i know some people do some things that they don't like. But that's not the topic. The topic isn't about "DO GAY PEOPLE LIKE BEING GAY?". It's about something else and you keep drifting. WHy not just stick to what the topic is? Some people hide from telling that they are gay because of people like you. They think well, if they keepit to themselves then, there wouldn't be much hatred on them. If you know that your mama don't like you eating fish, and you LOVE fish so much.. will u let her know that you eat fish everyday even tho you know she'll beat you because you ate fish? SOme things are better off unsaid. As for the last part of you post.. i must agree that you can like someone no matter how "un-perfect" they are. But you'll still almost always judge them because of What they are. You have to like both the imperfections and perfections of someone before you completely say you love them. Even tho you know u can never be what those people are.... you still must be able to "tolerate" what they are. You don't tolerate the act of being gay and that means u really don't like gay people.. |
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WesleyanA (f)
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if you think all gay people like being gay, then you really need to sit down and talk with one! one is related and living close to me so I'm speaking from esperience. trust me, if you lived 1900's in the United States, you'll hate being black and wish you were white that's how much they were oppressed. they were actually slaves. who likes being that? gays will like being gay if you stop opressing them and let them alone. they gays i know love/ are comfortable w/ being gay becasue they aren't being opressed like the ones in Nigeria and in the south. have you heard something called "gay pride"? why do you think some do it and still hide it even though they like it? If you were gay and you know your dad would kill you and everyone would hate you, would you admit being gay? NO! many people in the olden days did it behind closed doors as i said earlier people are starting to become more acceptive so they are able to express themselves. it's called freedom of expression. Yes you can like someone without liking some of the things they do! can you like or love someone so much that you can't even tell then when they're doing something wrong? if you're christian you'll tell a muslim he's practicing the wrong religion? if you're muslim, you'll tell a crhistian he's practicing the wrong religion? it's called diversity. this world is diverse w/ different people with different opinions that's what makes it unique. let me tell you, there are some people who believe wearing shoes is wrong. so your statement "can you like or love someone so much that you can't even tell then when they're doing something wrong?" don't fit the question at hand. homosexuality is not an act that hurts you or others so i don't see a wrong in it. if you think wearing shoes is good, keep your shoes. don't go hating on people who likes socks. if you think wearing socks is better, keep your socks. don't go hating on people who prefer shoes. each person to his/her own beliefs. |
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prince_onx
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I wonder if everyone posting on this issue knows that (freewilly) is in prison? that she might be doing or indulging in that act against her wish? people do alot of things eventhough they know its a sin and wrong! fornicators know its wrong!, armed robbers know very well that its wrong! they even pray attimes before operation, so do some gay people! Asking me if she's a horiible person because she's gay? I don't know her and who are mine to judge her? she might be the best person in the world but is her sexual preference or like horrible? people lets call sin sin! you guys made this seem like its animals that commits this sins NO its we humanbeing that commits them and most times we know its wrong. God help us!
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GentlBlunt (m)
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Prince Onx
Being gay is not about sexual molestation. Being gay is having sexual inclination towards someone of the same sex and aceepting the act as norm. After dealing and be clear of the sence of absurdity. You don't become gay after being serious straight. Or out of your own will.
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Seun (m)
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prince_onyx: being gay and armed robbery cannot be compared. If you're gay, the only person you're 'harming' is yourself while armed robbery involves stealing what belongs to someone else. You cannot compare someone who hurts others to someone who simply has a different sexual preference.
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I.B. (f)
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Much thx to WesleyanA for your views and opinions which I agreed with.
To Prince Onx, I made my point already and I wasn't beating around the bush. Sorry if I offended you by my comments toward nigerians in nigeria and all over the whole being hypocrites towards gayism/lebianism issues.
If you regard me as an hyporcrite bcuz of my statement, you gotta re-read my comments and think about.
I don't belief in gayism or lebianism, I think it's wrong and I let the author of this wonder topic know that. It is my personal believe bcuz I don't condone it but at the same time, I will not be the first one to cast the first stone. I will let GOD be the judge and if GOD wants to cast the first stone who can stop HIM? Huh? Unlike, many others condemning her and stonning her to death bcuz she's gay are hypocrites in my opinion; They are saying it's wrong, they are saying she's a sinner, it's a sin {which we all humans know but we are not GOD}. They know very well that it exists in nigeria and yet they are giving lectures about nigerian view and endless point of views. I wonder why the entire country is backwards when it's 2005. And everyday y'all speak of change coming soon......
So please re-read my 2 previous post. And don't forget to think about it before you post another comment.
Thx,
I.B.
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DoubleRevv (m)
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sorry friend for our hostility...but men I don't approve.
truthis it's not natural. I mean- I don't see male dogs mating (I don't mean my analogy to be rude) besides being gay is not your nature it is adopted and you can get love from guys..all the best.
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ondogi
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You know the good thing about this particular topic, atleast we know the gays and lesbos (WesleyanA,hot-angel) in our midst. Well good for you guys, but just be courageous enough to come out of the closet.
Funny how you gay proponents are discussing the rights, humanity and science of homosexuality but leaving out the most important opinion, God's word concerning this despicable act.
Am not without sin, rather am I a pious person but one thing i know for sure. Homosexuality, like a lot of crazy things is the devils handiwork. Ofcourse other deviant behaviours constitute sin but atleast thats acknowledge. So gays and their P.R agents should come to terms with the sinful nature of homosexuality.
Personally i do not care which way anybody swing as long as you don't swing wrongly to my side. But what i find irritating is the fact that gay people are potraying themselves as normal and okay, that their behaviour is alright. NO it is not, it is wrong simple.
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nferyn (m)
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@ ondogi
Simple answer to a complex question. Anyway, it's dishonest to portray people as gay, when the only thing they do is defend the rights of gay people.
The most important opinion you talk about is only relevant to the people ascribing to that specific denominations of that specif religion that condemn it, it is hardly universal.
It's also quite irrelevant whether or not it is natural or normal. Nature is very cruel and it should not be the yardstick by which we measure our actions and behaviours. Homosexuality also does exist in nature among different species.
Homosexuality is natural, but it is and will remain a minority sexual preference. Homosexuals did not choose to be gay, most would gladly trade their preference for being straight. Fact is that nobody controls their sexual preference, and nobody should discriminate or make their life miserable because of it.
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goodguy (m)
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I still continue to wonder how a human being can be attracted to someone of the same sex.  |
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CimonJorr (m)
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I'm curious about something... I read somewhere above (I'm not exactly sure where 'because there have been volumes posted in the above posts, and it's hard determining exactly where it is or who said what.. ).. But the person said that gayness/lesbianism/homosexuality was not necessarily about a person's sexual orientation but about a person's attraction bias or level of compassion.. Or something along those lines... What do you feel exactly makes a person gay/lesbian/homosexual if not their sexual preference and orientation .. |
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nferyn (m)
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I still continue to wonder how a human being can be attracted to someone of the same sex. So do I As someone straight, it's hard to imagine feeling sexual attraction to someone of the same sex. |
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ijebuman (m)
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I still continue to wonder how a human being can be attracted to someone of the same sex. , oops sorry wrong thread Life is full of so many mysteries, we think we know so much, yet we don't know anything Funny how you gay proponents are discussing the rights, humanity and science of homosexuality but leaving out the most important opinion, God's word concerning this despicable act.
If God doesn't like the way they live, let him tell them, not you. |
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adesodgi (m)
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YES You ARE,because u are practising sodomy.
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GentlBlunt (m)
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Adesodgi,
Sodomy doesnt describe gay people because straight people do practise sodomy aswell. A man and a woman that is, not D.Lo's
And the story of Sodom, the men of Sodom are rapist. They go as far of wanting to rape angels. I don't believe gay people goes around forcing sex on people.
My own side of this thing is that, is like telling an acoholic to stop drinking without pointing him to shrink, church or alcohol anonymous class. To me gay people can't fix themselves and as much as churches are shouting that being gay is wrong. I don't see any help coming from church to this gay people or gospel of Christ is about calling the righteous together? Christians always make friend with other Christians. Thats why some churches are not really growing. If I tell Freewilly, its Ok come lets talk on this or go see my Pastor, most of you will probably say we like people being gay, for showing them invitation to church. If Churches that suppose to be outstanding symbol of love has been so open minded to gay people and help them change (if they can) I believe there wont be much gay people in the society today.
Well, with the number of gay people in the society today, I believe the situation is just as comparable to being black in America in the 18th and 19th century. One way or another it will sure become a general acceptance. Gay people are gaining more ground now this days than determination to curb the situation.
Its even appal me this days why even more single people doesnt want to live in straight relationship anymore.
Well o, I know Nigerians are good with misconception, before you start labelling. I'm a Black straight man and a believer of Christ. I tried as much to preach and practise love beyond the clique of friends and acquintance. I guess thats what Jesus Did. Going to the house of people the society count as sinners and winning their life with love. She didnt tell the Samaritan woman you are an adulterer, I can't take water from you but he engage in friendly conversation and preach the message she needed to hear.
I have been doing this and it works in changing people's life. Thats what evangelism is.
God bless you all.
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hot-angel (f)
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You know the good thing about this particular topic, atleast we know the gays and lesbos (WesleyanA,hot-angel) in our midst. Well good for you guys, but just be courageous enough to come out of the closet.
Hunnie... do me a favor and take that back. Just because i tolerate people that are what i am not, does not make me a lesbian. |
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Kokscity (m)
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Whether you sleep with people of the same sex or you are Bi-sexual, or into S&M Or Bestiality, Adults are free to do whatever the like, and will do what ever they want. But your freedom ends at the tip of my Nose.Once you put it in my face,then we might have a problem. Freewilly i think your personal sexual preference should be just that "personal".
If you want to sleep with a cattle, that is your business as long as you are not sleeping with my mule.If you want to share you be a swinger that all good, just do your thing in private and do not step on anyone toes.At the end of this topic Freewilly will still be Gay and there is nothing we can do about it. But we are all Individuals and that is what makes us Unique.If you are looking for Uniformity where every one thinks alike, i recommend North Korea.
NB:
Nairaland please encourage free speech and stop regulating Speech.
All Opinions at the market place is always a good idea.
Limiting speech is what Dictators do, this forum should always encourage diverse opinions.Whether we agree with those opinions or not.
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nicetohave (m)
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NB:
Nairaland please encourage free speech and stop regulating Speech.
All Opinions at the market place is always a good idea.
Limiting speech is what Dictators do, this forum should always encourage diverse opinions.Whether we agree with those opinions or not. I agree with you, if all we do is smile and laugh at one another and say not what i would want to say, then what the hxck? Nairaland is then nothing more than a group of deciets. |
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nferyn (m)
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I agree with you, if all we do is smile and laugh at one another and say not what i would want to say, then what the hxck? Nairaland is then nothing more than a group of deciets.
As long as we stay civil to each other, I couldn't agree more. I cannot recall any instances where speech was regulated though. |
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