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richylaw (m)
Where Are The Black British Race
« on: February 26, 2007, 05:20 AM »

I just keep on wondering over this issue and I feel nairaland would be a good discussion ground for it.
Knowing certain histories of African colonization by the French, British ,American, German etc , it will not be out of point to  discover why we have the existence  of the black races called Black Americans and as well the almost half France population of the black race mostly a product of slave trade. However Nigeria was colonized by the British, very little can be said of a black race that had existed since slave trade till date  ,yet so many black Americans still trace their root to West Africa and precisely to Nigeria. Why and where is the black race community from the main west African colonial masters
Drusilla (f)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #1 on: February 26, 2007, 12:52 PM »

richylaw,

Good Question. This is why I questioned someone the other day about their claim that Britain ended slavery 200 years ago.

The Slave trade was called a Triangular trade because Britain sent goods to Africa, Africa paid for them with slaves, the slaves were shipped to the America's and America shipped back goods to Britain.

The Slaves in the United States of America, specifically, were actually the slaves in the British Colony of America.

The British actually claim to not have had ANY SLAVES and they especially stick to the fact that slaves were not bought or sold in Britain, even the Black ones. The personal Black servants in Britain were not bought or sold in Britain, just brought back from Africa working for some white person.

Britain never imported or exported slaves to itself but rather shipped the slaves to their Colonies.

America was actually a British Colony from 1619 --the date the first 2 Continental African slaves arrived in America. Until about 157 years later.

We are the result of British Slavery in Africa. Before there was ever a country called America.
oyinboaja
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #2 on: February 26, 2007, 03:11 PM »

Richy, you are not likely to ever hear the truth about that. You will either get the British version which will always be to help their own position or get versions from people like the earlier respondent who is looking to destroy the self respect of African Nations in order to find a way of being referred to as Africans.

By the way, how is Scotland?
Ferlie (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #3 on: February 26, 2007, 03:15 PM »

i don't understand o - u mean there are no black race before the slave trade? So where did the black people they sold during the slave trade era come from?

Abi I no get u?
Drusilla (f)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #4 on: February 26, 2007, 05:08 PM »

Ferlie,

Nobody gets Oyinboaja aka Justgood aka Just lie aka Just useless.

Drusilla (f)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #5 on: February 26, 2007, 05:16 PM »



richylaw (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #6 on: February 26, 2007, 05:23 PM »

@ Oyinboaja Scotland is good with more influx of black foreigners in the recent time,  they are getting more afraid of not going into extinct before 2045 so they want people in.

Drussila and Ferlie thanks as well for this responses and further questions , I actually needded to ask this question to be sure I m not thinking awkward. I mean how could the Britons be at the fore front of slave trade and all the good exchange and now they come up with an history to exonerate themselves. I still strongly think they never wanted the colored skinned to exist amongst them and they tried to get rid of some and probably kill some otherwise if slaves never live in Britain then the so called servants should probably indicate the smallest minority no matter what. Today lets compare America with Britain I think the descendant of the slaves have been able to show the strength in blackism to make America distinct .
Lets keep it rolling
oyinboaja
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #7 on: February 26, 2007, 06:31 PM »

Drugilla (drugwoman), no matter how hard you try; you're NOT an African. You can only be stateless if you deny being american.

Every African has a nation to be proud of.

Richy, what part of Glasgow are you at?

NINETOFIVE (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #8 on: February 27, 2007, 12:35 AM »

Quote from: richylaw on February 26, 2007, 05:23 PM

Drussila and Ferlie thanks as well for this responses and further questions , I actually needded to ask this question to be sure I m not thinking awkward. I mean how could the Britons be at the fore front of slave trade and all the good exchange and now they come up with an history to exonerate themselves. I still strongly think they never wanted the colored skinned to exist amongst them and they tried to get rid of some and probably kill some otherwise if slaves never live in Britain then the so called servants should probably indicate the smallest minority no matter what. Today lets compare America with Britain I think the descendant of the slaves have been able to show the strength in blackism to make America distinct .
Lets keep it rolling


Actually there was a substantial numbers of black population in Britain in the 1700, but the mistry of their disappearance has not been properly documented or investgated.
naijacutee (f)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #9 on: February 27, 2007, 06:21 AM »

Quote from: Drusilla on February 26, 2007, 05:08 PM
Ferlie,

Nobody gets Oyinboaja aka Justgood aka Just lie aka Just useless.



 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin
Hero (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #10 on: February 27, 2007, 06:44 AM »

Well, I've heard claims stating that since in Europe,  the policy of stripping the 300,000 African slaves taken to Europe-- of their tribal identity was never implemented as a stanch policy, many of the slaves  taken to Europe maintained their identities, and upon the downsizing and eventual elimination of the system in Europe not too long after it began--- many of the slaves were able to effectively be and in turn were in fact sent directly back to the lands in which they came in Africa, and others were sent elsewhere on the continent, like Sierra Leone

Most others ended up immigrating off to the US and other nations of the Americas during the various periods of mass immigration to the Americas by the Europeans,  in search of better opportunities just as their white counterparts were doing.  They scattered themselves from Brazil--- north to Canada, lands in which they knew that, yes, it'll be hard to get a job in and or a piece of land,  though not nearly as impossible of a task to achieve as it was in Europe for a  Negro or even your common run of the mill, commoner white boy or girl in that time of day in Europe.

By the time all of this mass migration was over, most of those of black descent that remained were VERY FEW in number and mostly Mulattoes who maintained close relations with their white relatives and or managed to actually pass for white; those who managed to find some kind of descent work in one of the big cities or sharecropping farms around the countryside, work upon the vast number of fishing and shipping vessels in which transversed the world from European ports, and or managed to get a smug spot caring for some royal family member and or generally rich big shot in the land, like Charlie Baltimore,  who is notoriously known for having always kept a close nit group of slaves back in England,  including a very young black boy as his personal little helper who he took EVERYWHERE he went around the world.  
oyinboaja
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #11 on: February 27, 2007, 11:10 AM »

Quote from: naijacutee on February 27, 2007, 06:21 AM
Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

why u dey open ya 32?
oyinboaja
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #12 on: February 27, 2007, 11:13 AM »

Quote from: Drusilla on February 26, 2007, 05:08 PM
Ferlie,

Nobody gets Oyinboaja aka Justgood aka Just lie aka Just useless.



In your stupidity, you are unable to understand what the guy was referring to.

Or perhaps your drugs, coupled with frustrations, have just made your brain numb
richylaw (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #13 on: April 15, 2007, 03:01 AM »

Quote from: oyinboaja on February 26, 2007, 06:31 PM
Drugilla (drugwoman), no matter how hard you try; you're NOT an African. You can only be stateless if you deny being american.

Every African has a nation to be proud of.

Richy, what part of Glasgow are you at?



I know one day the  truth will still come up with all this AMAZING  GRACE STUFF, British could be smart but cannot hide, I need to know what they did to my great grand father,
oyinbooja , I stay in Sighthill , Pinkston Drive to be prescise
cheers
 
oyinboaja
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #14 on: April 16, 2007, 12:59 PM »

Richy, that sighthill end done dey better now? The place been dey very rough before
richylaw (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #15 on: April 16, 2007, 01:44 PM »

Quote from: oyinboaja on April 16, 2007, 12:59 PM
Richy, that sighthill end done dey better now? The place been dey very rough before

at least to an extent, getting more sensible residents here facilitate positive changes,  lol
Ms BS (f)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #16 on: April 20, 2007, 11:33 AM »

Quote from: NINETOFIVE on February 27, 2007, 12:35 AM

Actually there was a substantial numbers of black population in Britain in the 1700, but the mistry of their disappearance has not been properly documented or investgated.

I would say they just mixed right in literally. you can see that in the wales coastal area where the hair and skin tone is slightly different to other whites.
oyinboaja
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #17 on: April 20, 2007, 04:14 PM »

Wales ke?  Shocked
Dis Guy
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #18 on: May 01, 2007, 03:50 PM »

Quote
The British actually claim to not have had ANY SLAVES and they especially stick to the fact that slaves were not bought or sold in Britain, even the Black ones. The personal Black servants in Britain were not bought or sold in Britain, just brought back from Africa working for some white person.

I've never heard of this one, if you get a chance to visit you might want to visit liverpool or bristol  Wink
English1 (f)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #19 on: May 08, 2007, 12:38 AM »

There was no wholesale importation of slaves but there were slaves in the UK and some slave sales - I don't think anyone denies this. What was quickly proven in law was that a slave could not be taken out of the UK against his/her will, and this led to some achieving freedom when their 'masters' went abroad.

Generally most of the Africans in the UK were men. They usually settled down with white British women, so over several generations their black appearance was gradually lost. You'll still find British people with their genes though.
samsilo (m)
Re: Where Are The Black British Race
« #20 on: May 09, 2007, 02:32 AM »

 @ English ,thanks for your correction of some misinformation posted here.Slaves were bought and sold in the UK.
 I believe I have a good understanding of English but I had to read the original post like three times to make sense of it.
I don't get what Oyinboaja was asking, my only contribution is what I have said already and please note ,colonisation of Africa started after the slave trade ended mainly to protect trade in other goods .
So the major powers tried to stake out areas for their own exclusive commercial interests.
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