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ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #32 on: March 02, 2007, 08:44 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on March 02, 2007, 07:56 PM
An Ekiti man in Lagos becomes a lagosian but an Igboman in Lagos is not a Lagosian,an Onitsha man in Enugu will always tell you he is from Onitsha and when he dies,he is taken to Onitsha, even it were his grandfather that came with his family to Enugu to start a trade.

I now know that you are not well, osisi, I would have let it slide if you didnt mention Ekiti.

How long have you lived in the states? I've been here for 17 years and I'll let you know, the Nigerians that claim American-ship are usually NOT Yoruba. The few that do claim that they are from Lagos. Bloody LIARS. I don't even claim Lagos and I was born there. Even Wes said that the Igbos don't rep themselves enough. They are always ready to give out their English names, even in the damn Nolly movies. They hardly speak their language, maybe once or twice you might get some pidgin, give me a break.
My father spent most of his life in Lagos and he'll always tell you he's a Ekiti bush man for life. My mother was born and bred in lagos, barely even been to her town in Ekiti and both of them are members of the biggest Ekiti group in The United States and most of the members were barely raised there in their ekiti hometown.

I don't know why you constantly feel the need to turn everything into some tribal fight. It's quite depressing. We are talking about CULTURE. Which tribe's culture is popular world wide. If you truly believe it's Igbo even though it obviously isnt then give us proof and stop going off the tangent on the amount of Igbos that are in a certain place in the world. That is not what the topic is about, if it were then Igbo definitely would be the answer.
sharetroll (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #33 on: March 02, 2007, 08:55 PM »

Quote from: j-girl on March 02, 2007, 08:27 PM
I agree it's Yoruba Culture. They're everywhere I go - sometimes it's even too much for me to handle.

In US. though there are lots of Igbo people, the Yoruba culture is more widespread
In UK. Definitely Yoruba
In Brazil - they believe in Sango (a Yoruba god)
In New Orleans, they know of Esu, Ogun and Sango (all 3 are different gods of Yorubaland)
In Benin, Ghana, Togo, Ivory Coast - they are like wildfire.
One of the most popular languages in West Africa outside English and French is Yoruba language
To make it even more prominent, the Yoruba musicians like Fela and King Sunny Ade have made their songs widespread outside of the country.

The amount Afro-Cubans that practice Santeria here in Miami are too many. And I know most of them are of Yoruba descent b/c of what the religion emcompasses. Their religon is most referred to as "lukumi", which came from the Yoruba term, "o lukumi", supposedly meaning "friend". Their head God is Oludumare (I'm sure you're quite familiar w/ the word) & they take the utmost pride into their religon. When I say they take pride, They REALLY take pride.

My mom would bring Yoruba carvings anytime she traveled abroad b/c of their request.  
Omo Eko (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #34 on: March 02, 2007, 08:56 PM »

Quote from: ThiefOfHearts on March 02, 2007, 08:44 PM


 the Nigerians that claim American-ship are usually NOT Yoruba. Even Wes said that the Igbos don't rep themselves enough. They are always ready to give out their English names, even in the damn Nolly movies. They hardly speak their language, maybe once or twice you might get some pidgin, give me a break.

I don't know why you constantly feel the need to turn everything into some tribal fight. It's quite depressing. We are talking about CULTURE. Which tribe's culture is popular world wide. If you truly believe it's Igbo even though it obviously isnt then give us proof and stop going off the tangent on the amount of Igbos that are in a certain place. That is not what the topic is about, if it were then Igbo definitely would be the answer.
You know have never agreed with anything u have ever said on this site before, but on this one oh I support u 100%.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #35 on: March 02, 2007, 08:59 PM »

Lol and what have I ever said that you didnt agree with, Omo Eko  Tongue
Omo Eko (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #36 on: March 02, 2007, 09:02 PM »

the incident when i cursed that girl out for using HATE Wink
sharetroll (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #37 on: March 02, 2007, 09:04 PM »

Just an example. . .

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTR5h9f6sCg

That being said, I didn't understand a word that came out of that woman's mouth.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #38 on: March 02, 2007, 09:10 PM »

I'm lost, Omo  Huh

that link isnt working for me, troll
naija_diva (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #39 on: March 02, 2007, 11:21 PM »

i would have to say that yoruba and igbo are the most popular culture both together. over here where i live in america, people always remember the igbos and yoruba of nigeria. if i say i'm nigerian, they will say, oh are u igbo or yoruba even if they don't' know the difference but if you say im liberian or cameronian or something like that, they don't care. so it really doesn't matter, who's more popular, as long as we are recognized.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #40 on: March 02, 2007, 11:42 PM »

Quote from: sharetroll on March 02, 2007, 09:04 PM
Just an example. . .

http://youtube.com/watch?v=iTR5h9f6sCg

That being said, I didn't understand a word that came out of that woman's mouth.

i couldn't comprehend most of it but i got some:

baba ** dara obala/obatala ese (good father thank you)
baba fun mi laye (father give me life)
emi mo kere larin wo (i am small in their midst)


most of these people are descendants of slaves from yorubaland centuries ago.
the yoruba they speak is a variety of the ancient yoruba of centuries ago.  and of course they can't retain all the language for that number of years.

I watched a portuguese  movie (it was from the 70's or 80's i think) once and most likely wouldn't be able to figure what they were saying if not for the subtitles. they pronounce so many words differently
it was about slaves and they had this old priest like man who taught the kids yoruba words, like a language teacher sort of. so the language wouldn't be lost. I don't remember the title of the movie but i'll love to get it
really ancient like yoruba words like omi, iye, obatala, ogun etc but they have their own language that they speak generally -portuguese.
only the priests use yoruba or when they're doing naming ceremonies and cultural stuff etc. portuguese is what they speak most of the time and i don't know if some yoruba words might be incorporated.

cool link.

sharetroll (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #41 on: March 02, 2007, 11:44 PM »

Quote from: naija_diva on March 02, 2007, 11:21 PM
i would have to say that yoruba and igbo are the most popular culture both together. over here where i live in america, people always remember the igbos and yoruba of nigeria. if i say i'm nigerian, they will say, oh are u igbo or yoruba even if they don't' know the difference but if you say im liberian or cameronian or something like that, they don't care. so it really doesn't matter, who's more popular, as long as we are recognized.

This is how it fares. . . .

YORUBA

























                 hausa (by a hair over the igbos b/c of the popular language IMO)
                                  igbo (everyone is still a winner, LOL)
sisimose (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #42 on: March 02, 2007, 11:46 PM »

wesleyana
Interesting , i have heard about these similarities but never really looked into it. Do you guys have any more links?
babyosisi (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #43 on: March 03, 2007, 01:34 AM »

I agree Yoruba culture is more worldwide,never said it wasn't but can you see all the proofs have been on juju and jujulike stuff.
Is that all Yoruba culture is?
Besides the voodoo and Santeria and hoodoo,what other Yoruba culture is worldwide,because as a Christian,that is not something for anyone to be proud of.
Are there no positive stuff anyone else can show us .
sisimose (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #44 on: March 03, 2007, 01:54 AM »

i don't think it matters, it is clear like you said that Yoruba culture has influenced other people across the world, even if it is about juju and the likes.  It is still an influence and won't change the fact that it is popular. It is not all there is to the rich Yoruba culture but it is still popular. Anywhere i go anytime i travel, as soon as i say i am Nigerian thet first thing they ask is Yoruba?
babyosisi (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #45 on: March 03, 2007, 02:07 AM »

My experience as someone earlier pointed out was are you Igbo or Yoruba?Then the soccer fans talk about our soccer skills
And I've had many tell me Nigerians are very smart people and that makes me very proud.
The number of Nigerian college professors in the small city I live at will astound you.
I am definitely a proud Nigerian

I just wish our country as a whole was a more decent place.It's a shame how we've basically been forced to exile.
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #46 on: March 03, 2007, 02:17 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on March 03, 2007, 01:34 AM

Besides the voodoo and Santeria and hoodoo,what other Yoruba culture is worldwide,because as a Christian,that is not something for anyone to be proud of.
Are there no positive stuff anyone else can show us
.


the word "voodoo" is a western corruption of the word "vodun" (shame on me, i think i forgot the right spelling). It means God or Spirit.

voodoo, african savages, dark africa. words like these are racist words to me.
voodoo is now known to be synonymous with pinned dolls for evil purposes (a western fabrication i believe)

the slaves were taken away from Africa before christianity was introduced. They of course kept the native culture in it's pure form.
to them, Obatala, ogun, sango is a positive thing. to us that the west have told us all of our things are bad, it is negative to us.

but for some reason, there are so many yoruba people with "ogun" or "ifa" in their names. "ogunleke' "ogunsola" "ifayemi" e.t.c it's our culture. your name carries it, so what's so negative about it?
babyosisi (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #47 on: March 03, 2007, 02:21 AM »

I guess to anyone who maybe worships  or reveres ogun and ifa they are ok then,not to me.

sisimose (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #48 on: March 03, 2007, 02:53 AM »

i didn't know that about the word voodoo. You a bag of info Wesleyana i think i'll stick around afterall  Smiley
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #49 on: March 03, 2007, 03:12 AM »

Quote from: babyosisi on March 03, 2007, 02:21 AM
I guess to anyone who maybe worships  or reveres ogun and ifa they are ok then,not to me.



they're christians and muslims. they just happen to have the traditional names.
i wouldn't be surprised if these things the afrocubans do have to with culture an tradition rather than religion.

Quote from: sisimose on March 03, 2007, 02:53 AM
i didn't know that about the word voodoo. You a bag of info Wesleyana i think i'll stick around afterall  Smiley

I don't have that much info. lol
I just found this out recently for black history month.
sisimose (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #50 on: March 03, 2007, 03:17 AM »

Ah thankGod for Black history month, wish we didnt have to have all that though( you know what i mean?) anyways i found out 3things from your posts today , i wont tell you the others, Tongue
WesleyanA (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #51 on: March 03, 2007, 03:39 AM »

yeah. one would think that after so many years we would have been so much ahead of where we are now. things were getting better and then went on to decline.
I don't know much about blacks in UK though. how are things there?

well, i found some stuff from your posts today too.  Grin
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #52 on: March 03, 2007, 05:16 PM »

Wes, are you minding osisi?

Again she likes to pretend like there was nothing going on in Nigeria before the European religion came along.
LadyT (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #53 on: March 03, 2007, 05:27 PM »

Blacks in the UK are on some dumb stuff.  A lot are not using their full potential.  Two weeks again we have 6 blacks kids killed within 2weeks two shot in their own beds!

These fools are really letting the side down.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #54 on: March 03, 2007, 05:29 PM »

wow, who shot them and why?
LadyT (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #55 on: March 03, 2007, 05:35 PM »

A mixture of gang violence,  One Nigeria boy Michel Dosumu was a case of mistaken Identity they shot him as he slept in his own damn house, the other black boy was just in the way when some bastard was trying to shoot someone else at an Ice rink.  The others drugs and revenge killings.
Donzman (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #56 on: March 03, 2007, 05:57 PM »

It seems the only thing you have about Yoruba culture being popular is the religions. Yorubas have more than 800 deities, what do you expect?  Huh

Anything else popular about Yoruba culture?
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #57 on: March 03, 2007, 06:10 PM »

envy anyone? answer the question instead of hating.
TerraCotta (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #58 on: March 03, 2007, 07:07 PM »

Quote from: Donzman on March 03, 2007, 05:57 PM
It seems the only thing you have about Yoruba culture being popular is the religions. Yorubas have more than 800 deities, what do you expect?  Huh

Anything else popular about Yoruba culture?

Tons--Yoruba music is one of the ancestral sources for popular music of Brazil. The most well-known are the afoxes, which are Ijesha rhythms that have been adapted for Carnival drumming. They are different from the religious musical genres and also different from samba, which is derived from Angolan culture. Also in Brazil, they cook and eat akara (they call it acaraje there) just as in Nigeria and Benin Republic, and some people still buy 'pano da costa' (aso oke etc. ) from West Africa, a trade that survived slavery and has been going on contiunously since.

In Brazil, they still call long white shirts and trousers 'abada' (corrupted 'agbada') in memory of the 1835 Yoruba rebellion in Bahia, which was the biggest in the country's history.

In Cuba, rumba/salsa/mambo etc. are a mixture of Congolese, Yoruba, and Efik/Ibibio and Igbo music with European instruments etc. They also make Yoruba food there too, including amala (although it's somewhat different from Naija amala, from what I've heard). In Trinidad also, the popular music and food has distinct Yoruba features, and there were whole communities of Trinidadian Yoruba speakers into the 1970s, although their numbers are dying down now.

Closer to home, someone already mentioned that Fela Kuti and King Sunny Ade are the most widely recognized Nigerian musicians.

Many Sierra Leoneans still go by Yoruba names today, even amongst Temne and Mende people who are not directly of Yoruba ancestry. You'll still hear of lots of people called Kola, Sade etc. (along with Nnamdis and Chidis, to be fair), but the Yoruba influence is the most recognizable in their culture. Lots of other aspects of Yoruba culture, including naming ceremonies, hunting/men's societies, savings and traditional banking institutions (esusu or susu) and so on are part of Sierra Leonean culture.

Yoruba religion gets the most attention because it's one of the few African-inspired religions that can be considered a 'world' religion, but it's not the only aspect of Yoruba culture that's world-recognized. It's more remarkable because Yorubas were not as numerous in the slave trade as other people--in fact, their numbers were comparable to the numbers of Igbos and Wolofs from Senegal among the enslaved population. The Congolese and Angolans were about 40% of the people enslaved in Africa and their cultures are probably the most dominant in the Americas.
Donzman (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #59 on: March 03, 2007, 08:06 PM »

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Closer to home, someone already mentioned that Fela Kuti and King Sunny Ade are the most widely recognized Nigerian musicians.

Don't be stupid, Fela isn't a "Yoruba musician". His music had more to do with Nigeria as a whole than Yoruba. If you wish to claim any positive that comes out of the Yoruba ethnic group in Nigeria as Yoruba, you should also be willing to take the negatives. Do you want to do that?

As for KSA, he isn't any more popular than all the highlife musicians of his era. Not anymore popular than Chief Osita Osadebe or Oriental Brothers.

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the Yoruba influence is the most recognizable in their culture. Lots of other aspects of Yoruba culture, including naming ceremonies, hunting/men's societies, savings and traditional banking institutions (esusu or susu) and so on are part of Sierra Leonean culture.

. . .Or maybe the aspects familiar to your Yorubaness seem distinct to you.
Donzman (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #60 on: March 03, 2007, 08:13 PM »

Lest I forget, the image of Nigeria outside of its shores is primarily Igbo influenced. All the Nollywood movies people all over get the watch from West Africa to the West Indies are all primarily Igbo influenced. We know the power of movies, right?

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Many Sierra Leoneans still go by Yoruba names today, even amongst Temne and Mende people who are not directly of Yoruba ancestry. You'll still hear of lots of people called Kola, Sade etc. (along with Nnamdis and Chidis, to be fair), but the Yoruba influence is the most recognizable in their culture. Lots of other aspects of Yoruba culture, including naming ceremonies, hunting/men's societies, savings and traditional banking institutions (esusu or susu) and so on are part of Sierra Leonean culture.

Many Ghanaians I met here go by Efik names like Essien and Edem, proves nothing. Yorubas do not have a monopoly on child naming, it's a characteristic of many cultures. Neither to do they have a monopoly of hunting/men's socities.
sisimose (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #61 on: March 03, 2007, 08:14 PM »

donzman that is quite true what you say about fela and KSA

Quote from: Donzman on March 03, 2007, 08:13 PM
Lest I forget, the image of Nigeria outside of its shores is primarily Igbo influenced. All the Nollywood movies people all over get the watch from West Africa to the West Indies are all primarily Igbo influenced. We know the power of movies, right?

Many Ghanaians I met here go by Efik names like Essien and Edem, proves nothing. Yorubas do not have a monopoly on child naming, it's a characteristic of many cultures. Neither to do they have a monopoly of hunting/men's socities.

i disagree with the quote above though, i think what you said about Fela and KSA , about how they are viewed by the world could be said about the movie industry too, only among us Nigerians do we place a distinction between Igbo and Yoruba influenced movies.

At the end of the day i choose to see us as one most of the time Smiley

ps
i just saw you modified post and i quite see where you are coming from now. yes you quite right about the naming of children and the fact that it is a merging of many of our cultures
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #62 on: March 03, 2007, 08:41 PM »

Fela's was a Yoruba man, dumbass and alot of his songs were sung in Yoruba

and how many people in the world truly gives a shit about Nollywood other than maybe a few African countries and some Carribean people? since when is speaking in fake wannabe Queen's English and acting like a "gangsta" an Igbo influence?
You obviously have no idea the amount of people esp white people that own Fela and KSA records. I remember even translating the songs for my roommates in Freshman year.

Who's claiming to have monopoly on anything? It just so happens that lot of Yoruba cultures are in various parts of the world, we didnt make it happen. Blame the damn slave trade.

You people are so damn blind with rabid tribalism that you can't even answer a simple thread question without malice. It's so pathetic. No one is saying that because Yoruba culture is more popular worldwide that it means we are the "better tribe", contray to what you think, that is not the point of this thread. We've given various examples and your bruised prides can't just accept that without thinking that it's still some sorta competition.

You people make me sick.
Donzman (m)
Re: Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?
« #63 on: March 03, 2007, 08:51 PM »

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You obviously have no idea the amount of people esp white people that own Fela and KSA records. I remember even translating the songs for my roommates in Freshman year.

In the same vein you do not know the amount of white people who listen to Chief Osita Osadebe or Cardinal Rex Lawson or Sir Victor Uwaifo. Admit it, your mind is playing tricks on you, you only notice the aspects of YOUR culture and disregard or ignore the aspect of other cultures present. So to you, it's the most popular when it ain't so.

Yoruba influenced religious practices is the only thing I can attest that is most popular, other than that, NOTHING.

I don't even know what traditional Yoruba music is like with the exception of the talking drum!

The only other thing popular about Yoruba is its influence on pidgin English, partly aided by Lagos being the commercial nerve of Nigeria and probably British West Africa.

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Fela's was a Yoruba man, dumbass and alot of his songs were sung in Yoruba

I was waiting for some dumbass to bring that up and you did. Yeah Hip-Hop is English culture, it's mostly sung in English, isn't it?  Huh

The only thing Yoruba about Fela's music is his ethnic background, the theme, instruments, melody of his songs are all NIGERIAN.

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Who's claiming to have monopoly on anything? It just so happens that lot of Yoruba cultures are in various parts of the world, we didnt make it happen. Blame the damn slave trade.

Maybe you should read and comprehend before looking for someone to label as a tribalist. Terracotta mentioned naming ceremony/man hunting as evidence of Yoruba influence. How true can that be when alot of African cultures do the same thing?

Yeah, if I do not agree that Yorubas have the most popular culture, I'm a tribalist. How interesting!
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