Most Popular Culture Worldwide. . . .Yoruba, Igbo Or Hausa?

 nollywood needs to get rid of the fake american accent crap an the rest of that. it sounds silly

except that purpose behind that one and this one are entirely different but as usual you with your rabid tribalism turned it into something else.

Before you ask,hubby is away for work out of state so I'm bored

you could always entertain yourself with a nice Nollywood movie instead, osisi.

Before this discussion concludes, y'all might want to consider that different societies had different organizational structure prior to colonization.

Again, the only thing popular about Yoruba culture is the number fo deities they have, over 800 them.

If someone calls me a tribalist again, I'll unleash something I came across during my readings, I swear!

Douglas Chambers also identifies evidence of what he calls Igboisms in Anglophone American slave societies which includes Igbo dietary habits. Okoro for example a staple in slave diet and ‘‘one pot’’ cooking practices is identified as Igbo in origin. ‘‘The vegetal part of the basket of African-American ‘‘soul food’’ indicates a strong Igbo presence in Anglophone slave food ways. Most important were yams, black-eyed peas, and greens.’’

At the cosmological level, the Igbo like other African groups seemed to have retained a lot of their spiritual world view. The Igbo slaves drew on their African institution to recreate the world familiar to them and to maintain contact with the spirit world and their personal god (chi). Two institutions in Igboland that were recreated include the Ahiajoku, yam spirit cult and Okonko society. It is likely, Chambers argues, that diasporic Igbo combined these essentially shared traditions into a Creole institution in the jonkonu masquerade.

 The author mentions names such as Calabar (male), Eboe Sarah (female), Juba (male,) and Breechy (male). He also uses yams (a staple food) and okra (a vegetable) as evidence of the foodways of Igbo origins, as well as mojo for charms, and the slave Jonkonnu (a Christmastime slave masquerade), all in the attempt to make a case for what he calls "creolized Igboism" in Virginia.

Chambers also associates the eighteenth-century low-fired ceramic cooking pots and eating bowls (generally called colonoware) with the enslaved Igbo. According to the author, the "description of precolonial Igbo potting technology fits quite well with what is known of eighteenth-century Virginia colonoware . . . [and] gourds (calabashes) were another important Igbo material cultural item that continued in Virginia" (pp.172-173). Other material culture the author lists in the book, as signifying Igbo connection, are dugout canoes, styles of fences, blue glass beads, and an iron sculpture which he claims evokes the kinds of figures made from wood or clay that littered southern Igbo mbari art or even ikenga (p. 174). The author identifies musical instruments such as box drums and the banjo stringed instrument as uniquely Igbo. He also points to slave patterns of settlement, Igbo belief in reincarnation, the practice of not celebrating birthdays, and the nudity of enslaved children and youths as practices which resonated in Afro-Virginian culture and suggest the dominance of Igbo influence. The author draws on the extreme lactose intolerance among Virginia's black adults of the nineteenth century and the related notion that the Igbo and Yoruba were the only major African ethnic groups with a known lactose intolerance (p.186). In addition, he says that the high proportion of Igbo women in the colony might have given them disproportionate influence in the socialization of Creole children.



This what I've been turned into, a researcher! *shakes head fiercely*!

If you wish to learn about Efik influences in the same Cuba, you can go here. . . http://muse.jhu.edu/journals/african_studies_review/v048/48.1milleri.pdf

Note to TerraCotta: Just because you're tribalistic and have failed to look into the cultural influence of other groups, does not mean they do not exist.



That's tribalisticLOL. By the way, Yoruba is NOT spoken in Brazil.

Last word: Unless you have a cultural popularity barometer, this question is not answerable. Every man here will fall into the trap of identifying with that which they're familiar with and ignoring the rest!

Donzman--now you're truly getting on my nerves. Don't flatter yourself with the title of researcher--you're a common plagiarist copying other people's words without attribution to back up your childish arguments on a web forum. I didn't accuse you of being tribalistic, even though your motives in this thread aren't exactly hidden. If you think googling a few links in the dead of night will save you from an intellectual ass-whipping, you're fooling yourself. How many of Douglas Chambers' books and essays do you own? Ever read his dissertation? I have. If you're going to cite Douglas Chambers' excellent work on Igbo identity in the Americas, you'd better make sure you know enough about David Northrup's criticisms of his conclusions too. I'm the wrong person to argue with on this topic unless you know what you're talking about--do the honorable thing and admit that you're out of your league instead of arguing nonsense.

By the way, Igbo culture is important in Jamaica and most of the British Caribbean too, along with Haiti (which babyosisi alluded to, but did not discuss in full)--what's new there? It doesn't mean that Yoruba culture is not the most recognized West African culture around the world, and is prominent even in those areas too, even though Yorubas were concentrated in Spanish- and Portuguese-speaking areas. You seem to take it as a sign of cultural superiority because your mind is so warped--I wonder if French and Spanish-speakers will be denying that English is the most widely-recognized European language around the world too. This is pathetic.

By the way, I've spent much more time working on Efik/Ibibio/Igbo cultural influence on Cuba than you, so try again. Ekpe societies happens to be my particular area of interest--I even wrote my undergrad thesis on the subject, so who do you think you're teaching? You'd better turn yourself into a researcher if you want to have a debate with me on this topic, because most of what you have to say is embarrassing babble and just shows your ignorance on the subject.


I said Yoruba was spoken in Trinidad until the 1970s, not Brazil. Read Maureen Warner-Lewis's Trinidad Yoruba or Melville Herskovitz Trinidad Village. Yoruba is not spoken as an everyday language in Brazil, but you can be sure that the candombles do orixas sing Yoruba songs everyday in their temples, that the Federal University of Bahia offers Yoruba classes (but not any other Nigerian language), and that Yoruba culture is recognized as the pre-eminent African influence in northeastern Brazilian culture (as opposed to Angolan culture, which is the most important African influence overall). Read Joao Jose Reis or J. Lorand Matory or Gilberto Freyere or any number of (non-Yoruba) scholars who would tell you the same . I wouldn't waste my time ordinarily arguing with the likes of you, but I assume that other people are reading your ignorance and might think that you know what you're talking about.


What a cop-out. So you had no problem answering the question in favor of your ethnicity before, but now you see you're on shaky ground, it's "not answerable". Seriously, you should be ashamed of yourself--your dishonesty makes you look weak-minded. Questions like these are answered by anthropologists all the time. The thread title is badly-phrased and I avoided it initially because I know time-wasters and ITKs like yourself would fill up the discussion, but the question is valid for those who know the subject matter. I suggest you hit a library and read a couple of books on the issue and stop yarning nonsense for the masses, jare.


Sisimose--I agree.

You seeee?Tribalism in nigeria is too much.Nigeria should be divided to stop all these shit.

You know what the real problem is PRIDE!

Its not a yoruba or igbo thing its a Nigerian thing.  Rotten stinking pride.

We have some Igbos screaming that the only reason Yoruba culture is popular is because of the unholy juju crap.  Ofcourse Igbos don't have anything like that, they have all been Christains from the word go.  

And then we have the Yorubas who are smug that we have an upperhand.  

So now the battle of pride begins.  

Why can't we just call s h it  S H I T!

I think the best pepper soup comes from the east! Any mofo want to turn that into a tribal war?  

He replied the naming ceramony thing in the Feminist thread and you and osisi chose to ignore it because you both knew you were in the wrong.

something we've come to expect from the crazy tribalists like the both of you.
You two have this irritating thing you like doing, if it doesnt happen in your village or before your onw yes then it surely must not exist, you need to get over that shit. There's more to life than what you see.

It's nor even a matter of the tribe that i am from but let's call a spade, a spade. Anytime I say i'm Nigerian. One of the questions I get is do I know the gods of Yorubaland? They mention the names of the gods and of course I answer back. Just because I am Nigerian doesn't automatically mean that I know of these gods but they're just popular everywhere. It said culture not population.
This thread reminds me of the most educated thread because y'all have started cussing each other out already.
Why does tribalism get everyone so riled up?
I'm proud to be Nigerian no matter the tribe.

I guess we have come to a conclusion that Yoruba fetish worship is the most known Naija culture worldwide from all the aforementioned writings.
We should be proud of ourselves 

Caution, ThiefOfHearts.