Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?

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tianshie (m)
Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« on: March 10, 2007, 08:08 PM »

I have to confess I don't read the good book that much but I know enough to question why Jesus cursed the fig tree because it didn't have any fruit.
Couldn't he have just walked on?
Wasn't that a measure of just a tad imperfectness,after all it wasn't the tree's fault.
Scholars pick up your thinking pads. . .
tianshie (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #1 on: March 12, 2007, 09:15 PM »

C'mm'n guys this isn't webber's fields Grin
say something!
Grouppoint (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #2 on: March 13, 2007, 01:59 PM »

Have you read the context of that passage? please find it and read it (Matthew 21:18-22, Mark 11: 20 -24

The action by Jesus was meant to reveal certain things to us:

1. In your situation, The power of Life and Death are in your tongue.
2. You must bear good fruit, otherwise you will end up in eternity like that fig tree.
3. Whatever you ask for, Believe that you have recieved it, and you shall have what you say.

So my bros, it was not an act of imperfection. Rather, God revealed to us, something which was a mystery from the days of old.
tianshie (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #3 on: March 13, 2007, 04:34 PM »

Thanks for your words although I don't quite understand the part about 'A mystery from the days of old'
In my opinion,if say a magician or a pharisee had done same,it would have been frowned upon. Don't you think so?
demmy (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #4 on: March 13, 2007, 04:54 PM »

All these of course is preconditioned on the fig trees having a feeling about being fig trees.

If it can be shown that fig trees feel bad or otherwise about being fig trees, then we have a basis for discussion.

So I ask do fig trees feel cursed or otherwise about being fig trees?
tianshie (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #5 on: March 14, 2007, 11:32 AM »

You don't want to be saying that to a tree hugger or a budhhist.
What's important is the act of cursing itself and I do believe all living things can feel,they are individuals.
So,fire on. . .
Backslider (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #6 on: March 14, 2007, 12:23 PM »

@Tianshe

He is God and he can Do it You want to Challenge Him ?

THE TRUTH IS THAT HE IS GOD AND THE CREATOR HE MAKETH AND DESTROYS YOU CANNOT JUDGE HIM
tianshie (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #7 on: March 14, 2007, 12:51 PM »

@Backslider
What you're saying in effect is that dogmatism is cool.
You didn't answer the question,you nicely pussyfooted.
Backslider (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #8 on: March 14, 2007, 01:13 PM »


@Tianshe

I would helped you but your heart is hardened. I leave you now
ishmael (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #9 on: March 14, 2007, 03:30 PM »

He was wrong to have cursed the fig tree. What did the tree do to him?? Did the tree create itself??
Backslider (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #10 on: March 14, 2007, 04:52 PM »

Behold the axe is laid unto every tree that beareth not forth fruit it is hewn down and cast into the Fire. 
tianshie (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #11 on: March 14, 2007, 05:14 PM »

Let's not forget that the reason he cursed the tree was because he was hungry not on his favourite gardening activity.
TV01 (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #12 on: March 15, 2007, 07:05 PM »

Quote from: tianshie on March 10, 2007, 08:08 PM
I have to confess I don't read the good book that much but I know enough to question why Jesus cursed the fig tree because it didn't have any fruit.
Couldn't he have just walked on?
Wasn't that a measure of just a tad imperfectness,after all it wasn't the tree's fault.
Scholars pick up your thinking pads. . .

First of all, the thing created, does not question The Creator.
Second of all, The Almighty does not need or ask for justification from finite beings
Thirdly, and corallaryy to my first two points, you can't judge a Being who is altogether unlike you (in this case infinitely superior in every possible way) on your terms.

To those that truly care, I suggest you read the message in the juxtaposed narratives as suggested by Grouppoint in post #2, but reading somewhat before and after the core verses.

However, I have an alternative reading, which speaks to the fig tree as a metaphor for the Jewish nation, Which from the favoured position God had granted it had descended into empty religion and placed it's security in temple ritual. Notice that the tree withered from the roots up (and was not just barren henceforth).

Religion is death. Dogma kills.

God bless
tianshie (m)
Re: Was Jesus Right To Curse The Fig Tree?
« #13 on: March 15, 2007, 07:39 PM »

Quote from: TV01 on March 15, 2007, 07:05 PM
However, I have an alternative reading, which speaks to the fig tree as a metaphor for the Jewish nation, Which from the favoured position god had granted it had descended into empty religion and placed it's security in temple ritual. Notice that the tree withered from the roots up (and was not just barren henceforth).
Thanks.That there casts a fresh eye on the whole incident.
Exactly what I had hoped to spur.
Anbody with any other enlightening post???
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