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Ndipe (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #96 on: March 16, 2007, 03:10 AM »

shaving one's hair is not the only way to mourn for the demise of one's spouse. There are other ways.
spoilt (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #97 on: March 16, 2007, 03:11 AM »

@donzman
much ado about hair shaving! even after a hundred year marriage it still isnt warranted and will not help anything. cladding yourself in black mourning gear(which should also be optional) is enough.
Ndipe (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #98 on: March 16, 2007, 05:15 AM »

Does the same treatment apply to men also, I mean, the culture of shaving one's head in the event of one's spouse's death. If not, that is another double standard practice.

My misgivings with such customs is that it dictates how a woman should mourn for the husband. It shouldnt be that way. One should be at liberty to grieve in whatever manner that they choose to do so.
lewa (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #99 on: March 16, 2007, 06:23 AM »

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You talk of your grandma, was she childless?. . .What were her children doing while they were stripping their mom of their belongings? Weak!
Rather uncalled for,puerile,infantile and disappointing!D man you ought to retract that!
lewa (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #100 on: March 16, 2007, 06:27 AM »

Certain cultures have different rites when it comes to mourning,widowhood rights and the like.Majority are antediluvian and archaic!However posturing and pontificating on the www would not help matters,neither would name calling!I'm afraid it might take a while for these undesirable practices to disappear
osegwu (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #101 on: March 16, 2007, 07:18 AM »

Hnm?
angel101 (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #102 on: March 16, 2007, 11:50 AM »

@DONZMAN
U never cease to amaze me!
oluite (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #103 on: March 16, 2007, 12:09 PM »

@donzman -what  do husbands  when they lose their wives?
@jiggo
which ones do u no?read @lewa post directly after yours. Grin
mamaput (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #104 on: March 16, 2007, 07:53 PM »

I did not know people still shave their hair.
if i really loved my husband , the state of my head will not bother me.
But i will never come on the idea of doing it.
What is still worse is  the women that are forced to drink the water the dead husband was bathed in.
Well back to the houses if the man left a testament even women can inherited houses.
But not the Traditional once that are passed from first son to first son over the generations
Donzman (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #105 on: March 16, 2007, 10:00 PM »

If a wife dies, the man shaves his head, not a big deal, the head is often shaved anyway.

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My misgivings with such customs is that it dictates how a woman should mourn for the husband. It shouldnt be that way. One should be at liberty to grieve in whatever manner that they choose to do so.


By that reasoning, I'll say mourning isn't even compulsory. You mourn if you wish and if you don't, apply make-up the next day and start sampling yourself. Who are you to tell anyone to mourn?

Last I checked, to propose to a girl, you need to some fancy ring. Why does anyone have to spend that kind of money on a ring anyway?. . . Huh

@The rest

Law in paternal socities dictates that the man's properties be handed over to the sons or the first son atlest. Western law says the property should he handed over to the wife (which leads in things like Nicole Smith marrying a dead man). Which one is right? Handing it over to your child or your wife? Up for debate!
Seun (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #106 on: March 16, 2007, 10:08 PM »

It's not up for debate.  The man's will decides what must be done with his property.  Stop defending ****shit.
Donzman (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #107 on: March 16, 2007, 10:18 PM »

When the man dies accidentally and isn't there to decide?. . .Ofcourse the man ALWAYS decides if he's alive.
Ndipe (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #108 on: March 17, 2007, 03:03 AM »

Wife gets the property, because she was by hubby's side, either physically, or emotionally, or both. I can see our African side handing out the property to the first son, because they don't want another man (an outsider) to inherit their brother's sweat, if the woman decides to marry. No wonder why our tradition always ask the woman to choose one of her deceased's husband's brother to marry.

Interesting!!!
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #109 on: March 17, 2007, 03:23 AM »

@ Seun
how many Nigerian men bother to write a will? Is this will enforceable in the court of law in the face of tradition?
4 Play (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #110 on: March 17, 2007, 03:44 AM »

Its enforceable if its properly executed.In Nigerian law,statutory law overides customary law.

The problem is that many Nigerians don't leave a will.We don't like to  contemplate the possibility of death.

Imagine the reaction if a woman was to advice her husband to prepare a will Shocked
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #111 on: March 17, 2007, 03:55 AM »

Quote from: 4 Play on March 17, 2007, 03:44 AM
Imagine the reaction if a woman was to advice her husband to prepare a will Shocked

 Grin Grin Grin She'll have a long time clearing herself of allegations of adultery and planning to kill her husband.

Most times though such cases never make their way to the law courts. Imagine a woman going to the police waving a will at them while her late husband's brothers are waiting to take away the house and cars? Who do you think the police is likely to support?
mamaput (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #112 on: March 19, 2007, 11:02 AM »

You do not go to the police with your will , you go to your lawyer.
A man that lives his wife to her faith is very selfish.
He should at least put his children's name in the will .
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #113 on: March 20, 2007, 03:42 AM »

Nigeria has no laws.
Pay the police and they are on your side.
That is the sad reality.
BlackMamba (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #114 on: March 20, 2007, 08:21 PM »

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Imagine the reaction if a woman was to advice her husband to prepare a will

An emergency meeting of extended family from both sides will be summoned with catastrophic consequences hanging over the woman's head. Grin
spoilt (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #115 on: March 20, 2007, 08:29 PM »

@ blackmamba
           na true you talk oh! heaven go fall!!!!!!!!!!  Grin Grin Grin Grin
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #116 on: March 21, 2007, 01:21 AM »

Quote from: BlackMamba on March 20, 2007, 08:21 PM
An emergency meeting of extended family from both sides will be summoned with catastrophic consequences hanging over the woman's head. Grin

and 'should in case' the man kicks the proverbial bucket in the midst of all this,that woman will be declared the village black widow.
laudate
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #117 on: March 26, 2007, 06:13 PM »

Erm, can we get back to the topic?

In the South-western part of Nigeria, women can build or buy properties in their own name if they have the financial muscle to do so. It is not seen as a big deal. Women take chieftancy titles, or should I say, are conferred with chieftancy titles & recognition, as important people in their own right.

But if a woman is married to an archaic man with a fragile ego who does not own much, by way of material assets or landed property, he might feel threatened by his wife's ability to buy property, or build a house in her own name. This could cause petty quarrels & may even lead to the dissolution of the union. In order to maintain the peace, some women choose to keep quiet about their physical assets, (like land & houses), so that their husbands would not feel jealous.

Women can also inherit property through their fathers, or parents. Among the Yoruba people, two forms of inheritance prevail , in customary law.

They are the idi-igi concept & the "ori o jori" concept (hope I spelt that right!). In the idi-igi concept, a deceased man's property is shared according to the number of wives he has. The children of each wife, then divide the property and/or assets, among themselves. In the ori o jori concept, the property, assets & cash a man leaves behind, are shared equally among the entire number of children he has. It doesn't matter how many they are, or how oldĀ  each one of them claims to be, each child gets an equal amount.

In Edo culture however, the 1st son gets everything the man owns, irrespective of how many kids he left behind. If he chooses to be magnanimous, he might decide to share some of those properties with his siblings. If he is a greedy sod, he could decide to take everything.

My advice? if you are a woman, build or buy your own property. You could do so in another part of the country, if you don't want to do so in your own village.
MP007 (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #118 on: June 30, 2007, 02:09 AM »

says who.? my mums as 3 houses and my papa get 5 , who send, i know say african men can't tolerate their wife having more than them
nuzo (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #119 on: September 19, 2007, 05:08 PM »

Most of you are misguiding the public about what is obtainable in Naija. Nigeria has about 250 tribes with much differences in culture.
In the south east, majority of the women there have their own cars and houses to their name (most times strongly encouraged by their husbands) if they can afford them.
 
My mum is a typical example. She was even given a chieftancy titlle alongside my dad (though my dad refused to take his own but encouraged my mum to go ahead if she really wanted it). The 2nd car she rode was bought by her.
Most of my aunties own their own houses and cars.

So i really would be glad if spoilt will let us know which part of the country she was refused the right to buy or build a house.

@scrapping of hair
It's not mandatory in my place even though most women prefer to have their hair low on their own will.

As regards to stripping widows of their husband's possessions. One can only try doing it if you want to face the wrath of of my village. I am from Ebonyi state to be precise.

I will not hide the fact that it's still being carried out in some parts of Nigeria.
This as a result of somebody toiling all his life to feed and send his brother to school and after that, he sells almost all he has got to make his stand in world and all of a sudden death came calling and a woman of barely 2 years of marriage will want to take over the whole property.
 
The truth of the matter is that, unlike in the western world where almost everybody can go to school and survive with little or no assistace from his folks, nobody can couragouslly want to contest ownership of his property if he's gone. In Nigeria, you are totally dependant on your family untill you become responsible and they inturn feel you should pay back when its your turn.

Just how i see it.
laudate
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #120 on: September 19, 2007, 06:16 PM »

Quote from: nuzo on September 19, 2007, 05:08 PM
As regards to stripping widows of their husband's possessions. One can only try doing it if you want to face the wrath of of my village. I am from Ebonyi state to be precise.

I will not hide the fact that it's still being carried out in some parts of Nigeria.
This as a result of somebody toiling all his life to feed and send his brother to school and after that, he sells almost all he has got to make his stand in world and all of a sudden death came calling and a woman of barely 2 years of marriage will want to take over the whole property.

Ehm. . . .isn't this contradictory? On one hand, you claim that no one can strip widows of their dead husband's properties without facing the wrath of your village. Yet, on the other hand you seem to justify a dead man's extended family coming to take over his possessions, simply because his widow was not married to him for a long period of time, or simply because their marriage did not last that long. Which one do you want us to believe?
Ndipe (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #121 on: September 19, 2007, 10:22 PM »

I wonder@laudette, the guy is just contradicting himself. Maybe in his views, a widow's entitlement to her husband's estate should be dictated by the length of their married life together.
$$Rhino
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #122 on: September 19, 2007, 11:41 PM »

i am hearing this for the first time and i am sure that all the state guys in da house could bear witness that they have many ladies that buy lands and build houses on their own names, so please, educate me, what part of nigeria is this happening.
nuzo (m)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #123 on: September 20, 2007, 03:55 AM »

@laudate and ndipe

I said in some parts of Nigeria, not my own area. ok?

I never tried to justify stripping the widow of her late husbands possessions; i was only giving insight on why it's being done.
Bosdem (f)
Re: Why Aren't Women Allowed To Build Houses Or Own Property?
« #124 on: September 20, 2007, 02:25 PM »

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