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nferyn (m)
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Nferyn, i don't understand your philosopher. You subscribe to the idea of masturbation been okay for kids as long as it does not become a permanent occurrence. If you think this is alright then why not pornography? At least both are addictive. If any form of masturbation is okay, then why not let it become a "full time occupation"?
There are health benefits to masturbation in adults as well. It reduces the chance of getting prostate cancer. Anyway, as with all things, moderation is the key. There is nothing wrong with having a drink every now and then, but it's not OK to become an alcoholic. Should we prohibit the sale of alcohol because it can be abused? The same with masturbation. It's just solo sex. Nothing wrong with sex, why then should there be anything wrong with solo sex? When considering pornography, it's important that people do not get wrong ideas out of it or confuse it with real life. It's only fiction is sexual arousal. Because of the fact that it objectifies women, there is a potential danger here, but that danger is comparable to the danger of action movies; violence is portrayed in such a way that it becomes cool and a legitimate way of settling disputes. There is no reason to single out pornography over other forms of fiction. The interpretative framework of the consumers is what is important. That's why I think any consumption of fictitious material by children should be supervised and that pornography is not suitable for children and young teenagers. If i've got to use fear as a means of instilling some form of moral and discipline into my kids, then i will so do because i am accountable for them.
That's a method of the weak. There are far better ways of teaching morals and discipline (of course this also depends on the child and his/her age) |
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Sesan2
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People sent their children to boarding secondary schools mainly because there were not enough local schools or because the school they want their kid to attend was far from their town. You can send your kids to boarding schools and still ensure that they are achieve what you want them to achieve. You don't just abandon them there. You work with the teachers to ensure your kids become what you want them to become. Children who attend boarding schools can be better at being independent and knowing how to stand up for themselves.
Children can discover masturbation without being taught by anyone. If your child discovers masturbation at what you consider to be too early an age then the way you deal with it will depend on your believe. Telling them it is not a good thing to do may not be right but you should ensure that they do not become pre-occupied with it or do it at inappropriate places. If telling them masturbation is not a good thing to do helps you achieve those objectives then you may want to do that. But they will soon discover masturbation does not make them go blind (as they are told in some places), or the world will be full of blind people.
As far as I know, only religion says masturbation is bad. Surely, it is better to masturbate than to engage in rape or risky sex, where you can catch deadly infections, in order to satisfy your sexual urge. In fact some people advocate teaching kids (at the age when they become sexually active) how to masturbate, so they don't expose themselves to risky sex.
I think people onder 18 should not be exposed to pornography of any sort. Some types of pornography are dangerous to society as a whole. I hope the Nigerian government has laws in place to prevent the depraving types of pornography from entering our shores.
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prettyH (f)
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Nferyn,
In your argument above, you have given justification for adult masturbation, thus i can conclude, you admit the fact that as with any habit that’s not curbed at an early stage, masturbation once started in kids will gradually progress into adulthood. Now how can anything started as early as that be done in moderation. Regarding the cancer bit, all sorts of advantages are attached to a lot of crap in a bid to make it seem right. So if I don’t indulge in masturbation, will I have whatever cancer? I don’t think so. Going back to your illustration of alcohol intake, if one decides to consume a glass of wine a day, for years (of course that’s little or nothing), once the person doesn't have a glass of wine for a day, immediately his system starts to act up. Why? Because having carried on such routine for years, the body starts craving alcohol because its a regular habit. It's the same thing with drug addicts. They start on low doses and then move on to higher doses but once they miss a dose, they start craving the drug. That’s the same thing with masturbation. And might I remind you, once one starts consuming alcohol, the probability exists that a glass gradually becomes two glasses and so on.
Now, again about the moderation bit, lets be realistic, agreed, its solo sex but can this act be performed only once a day and that would provide the sexual satisfaction for the day? Certainly not!!! Probably, at that moment in time, yes, but not for the day. If i can give myself the sexual pleasure, instead of from a partner, then what stops me from having sex all day as i so desire. True there’s nothing wrong with sex, but as well, people abuse it. People have sex with numerous partners instead of having a partner because of their sexual drive. Moreover if solo sex is equally the same as normal sex, why do people who indulge in masturbation still have partners? Again, if pornography provides the sexual urge that leads to sex, then would it be wrong to view porno at least its only people having sex, right. It’s not as if it’s not happening in real life.
My point therefore is if self sex (masturbation) is okay, then pornography should be seen as okay since the keyword is sex no matter how it is carried out.
*I wonder why you didn’t give any justification for masturbation in children.*
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nicetohave (m)
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There are health benefits to masturbation in adults as well. It reduces the chance of getting prostate cancer.
 actually it is adequate ejaculation that prevents against prostate cancer, not masturbation in itself. There is nothing wrong with having a drink every now and then, but it's not OK to become an alcoholic. Should we prohibit the sale of alcohol because it can be abused?
True.......but we know that also is the premise of alcoholic, and all other addictions................"if kept in moderation" The same with masturbation. It's just solo sex. Nothing wrong with sex, why then should there be anything wrong with solo sex?
I beg to differ sir..........something is wrong with sex when used inappropriately, vis a viz; masturbation (or solo sex) sex outside wedlock, porno whatever..............sure something is wrong with certain kinds of sex. |
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nferyn (m)
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I beg to differ sir..........something is wrong with sex when used inappropriately, vis a viz; masturbation (or solo sex) sex outside wedlock, porno whatever..............sure something is wrong with certain kinds of sex.
The only sex that's wrong is sex that damages someone (emotionally or physically) - all the rest.... whatever you fancy, just don't force me to participate in your funny excursions  |
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nicetohave (m)
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The only sex that's wrong is sex that damages someone (emotionally or physically) - all the rest.... whatever you fancy, just don't force me to participate in your funny excursions you almost make me to agree with you all the time except for the fact that you don't recognize the spiritual being of man...........yes sex that damages one physically, emotionally and spiritually (you left that one out) is wrong. |
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nferyn (m)
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Now I should propose a group hug, but I'm affraid that there are dangerous virgins in the house |
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Pathos (m)
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Masturbation and pornography is bad,it is spiritually wrong,and immoral.It is something that can generate to a more dangerous act or habit.
Let us not look at it as a mere sign of adulthood.
I don't want to talk much but let us accept the fact that it is wrong even though we do it,it has not in any way made it right right.
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prettyH (f)
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Now I should propose a group hug, but I'm affraid that there are dangerous virgins in the house lol |
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davidylan (m)
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Masturbation and pornography is bad,it is spiritually wrong,and immoral.It is something that can generate to a more dangerous act or habit.
Let us not look at it as a mere sign of adulthood.
I don't want to talk much but let us accept the fact that it is wrong even though we do it,it has not in any way made it right right.
Thank you bro, don't be decieved by those who tell you that pornography and masturbation are a way of releiving pressure (?) and it's harmless and all that nonsense. Masturbation and porn are NOT harmless, they will slowly (very slowly) change your way of thinking, they will poison your mind. like tentacles they weave their web around your heart and u will do anything (i repeat, anything) to get satisfaction. I was ensnared by those twin evils for over 5 years, i can tell you life was never the same again! It's so hard to look at any female and have pure thoughts about them again! Thank God i got delivered and i'm free of them today! But i never hesitate to tell people about my experience, please and please, flee all appearance of evil! It will be sweet initially but later you will hate your very self to the very fibre! |
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pete (m)
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Like cultures, subject are very prone to loosing its original content value here in Nairaland post. The threader posit a discuse and with time it loses its originality. I'll try to recal and answer what the first threader asked.
Child upbriging is the key to the eventual total restructuring of any society.Kids ages 4 to13 should not be given access to pornography. Granted, some would go look for it themselves, in that instance we can't do anything about it.
I think its also dangerous as harmless as it may seem to start at age 4, telling kids about their PP...you may be the one to open the pandoras box earlier than needful. The key to this is, at that age just try to inundate them with positive materials...church, kid development movies..there are a bunch of them.and your priavte time praying for them. after a kid is 10...please you either have won the game or lost it..nothing else could be done.At that age they already have decided if this is what they want or not,.....u may wipe their behind and all that. The deed is already done good or bad..if its bad they may grow up to retrace their tracks.
You walk into your teenage kid doing the nasty..no doubt u had failed a while ago...satan has taken over, there is little or nothing you could do at that stage.
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Bigtee (m)
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its not only bad to masturbate its sinful
Yes bad habits are pick up in boarding school. Parent don't neglect your kids
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mikebuddy (m)
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Specialists said that masturbation is good because it make people to feel less horny.Then making them not to have much sexual feeelings.
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pearldrops (f)
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it help's loosen stress
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mikebuddy (m)
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Posted by: pearldrops
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it help's loosen stress
It's possible. |
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pearldrops (f)
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mikebuddy l heard there are a lot of lesbo's there at madona
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mikebuddy (m)
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Posted by: pearldrops
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mikebuddy l heard there are a lot of lesbo's there at madona
Maybe all things can be possible but i have not heard by the way what were you discussing before u heard that i guess you are among those people that ****** asterics no mean anything oh |
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mikebuddy (m)
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Afican china go help you with men wey sabi
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vichel (m)
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When u say Masturbation among children, hoe old are u talking about? Because i know u can only enjoy it when your body is old enough to produce Sperm. Well am not sure, just wondering  |
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mikebuddy (m)
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You are not sure..hmmm.well yes how old are u talking about?
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2cantango (f)
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When my daughter was 6yrs old she came to me with a story about her friend at school. Her friend had been telling her how much fun it was to touch her pp, and how her fingers would smell nice if she rubbed for a long time. My daughter was crying and admitted that she had tried this and she didn't like it at all. I was horrified to realize that my little angel had been faced with this topic at such a young age. I talked to her teacher the next morning and found that the family was being councelled by the school because of certain behaviour by this other little girl. Anyway, to cut a long story short, in the end it was found that the girls father had been sexually abusing her, which is where she got her knowledge from regarding rubbing of her pp.
Several years have passed and my daughter has admitted during this time that she has sometimes touched her pp because she wants to know why her friend liked it so much. She still doesn't like it and has started praying to be released from this, which I am praying for also. I am blessed with a very open relationship with me kids in that they feel comfortable to come to me and tell me absolutely anything. I know that not all families are like that, but as parents we need to do all we can to preserve the innocense of our children for as long as we can. Children need to be allowed, and supported, to live as children should. Sexual activities are mistreated enough during adulthood, so let them at least become adults before having to face such things.
I personally feel that morals are diminishing and too many people are employing the stand that 'well it's going to happen one day anyway, so just let it happen'. We need to re-evalutate the importance of life and get our priorites in order. Our children should be educated about things that will help them have a good life, and teach them to focus on making the world a better place for everyone. Life should not be so focused on sex, but when sex education is needed it should be taught as a sanctified act between husband and wife, not something that is for hire, not something to be used as a tool of manipulation or abuse.
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Labelle (f)
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oo! shutup!! we all do it !! i do it , u did it, so does your folks and your pastor.its simply''quick acces'' to the most honourable feel in d world 'orgasm'.infact rite now, im bout to pickup my mobile , enter www.freeporn.com, and WOAH!! look at those knockers!!! isnt life beautiful?  |
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chrisd (m)
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That's how you became a christian?
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chrisd (m)
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That's how you became a christian prettyh? By the education of fear. That's why I see so much money blowing bastards as requirement to become pastor in England.
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chrisd (m)
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Pastors in England push the education of fear to get their church going. That's all they are good at, nothing else. Especially in London when most African people are poor and unprivilaged.
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chrisd (m)
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Didn't you know that?
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