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freelance (m)
Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« on: March 28, 2007, 01:23 PM »

I have been hearing people say milk is bad and not good for the health. is it good or bad? I really need your honest opinions.I love milk just to much, hope am not doing more harm than good to myself.

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kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #1 on: March 28, 2007, 06:52 PM »

na wa ooo. its really amazing the kind of things people spread about food.

milk is an animal source of protein which contains many other nutrients, vitamins and minerals which are essential for maintenance of body function and systems, repair of worn out tissues.

there are six main groups of food that should be consumed on a daily basis but in varying quantities.

these include milk, starch, vegetable, protein, fats n oil, and water group.

Milk/yoghurt group should form part of the daily diet and should not be excluded for any reas

there r different types of milk: low fat, skimmed milk, evaporated, condensed, etc.
these milk types yield different amount of calories per ml, depending on the fat content.
for instance, whole milk may provide 351 kcal of energy while low fat may provide 250 kcal.

so for someone who is overweight or obese, it is important to take the low fat milk type instead of the other types.

also moderate the amount taken: don't take a whole tin of milk, or scoop too many tablespoons of the powdered type.





Free (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #2 on: March 28, 2007, 10:45 PM »

Milk is not bad Grin
naijacutee (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #3 on: March 29, 2007, 12:08 AM »

Were you around in the 90's to see all the "got milk?" adverts?


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cute-ass (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #4 on: March 30, 2007, 01:27 AM »

as its always said, too much of everything is bad

milk in my opinion is not bad but taken in too much quantity might not be that good for the sysytem/body Wink

now some people are allergic to milk, can cause them different unpleasant experience but that does not make it bad

one man's meat is another man's poison
hola2ng (m)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #5 on: March 30, 2007, 02:32 PM »

@topic
Milk has a lot of nutritional benefits (Vitamins D and K essential for bone health, Vitamin A, critical for immune function, Iodine, mineral essential for thyroid function etc).
Most people like milk, while few don't. Like cute-ass said "that does not make it bad".
Rlst84sale (m)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #6 on: April 09, 2007, 01:51 AM »

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Rlst84sale (m)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #7 on: April 09, 2007, 02:00 AM »

@Kebab

Animal source of protein is a bad source of protein for human. Most of the devastating diseases have been traced to consumption of animal products, especially cancer, diabetes, autoimmune disorder and more. Also the by-product of protein after the body metabolizes it is uric acid which causes many diseases including arthritis and more, it also lowers the body's alkalinity (PH) and triggers the body to draw calcium from the bones and teeth which eventually results in osteoporosis. So I don't know why we ask people to consume this stuffs when the people that are encouraging the consumption of them would not disclose the truth to us because of the big money politics involved.

Go to this website you will get a lot of info that can help you a great deal WWW.HACRES.COM you will find a lot of info to help you. You can also contact this email in Lagos Tsfchurch@yahoo.com The man came to train here in The US he will be able to help you will materials that you can study as well.

We Africans should do more home work on foods in relation to diseases and health so that we can help our people.
kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #8 on: April 11, 2007, 08:24 AM »

I think we should be careful with the kind of information we pass around and what we read on the internet because not everything is correct. People give misinformation, or incomplete information to make their product seem like it is the best. I have checked the hallelujah website and while it contains some information, it is not the whole truth of the matter. That diet may work for some people, and may not work for others. People, please make informed choices about your health. I also do not believe in fad diets but in lifestyle changes, which are more permanent and give better results in the long run.
kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #9 on: April 11, 2007, 08:26 AM »

i will try to make this as elementary as possible:

Nutrition starts with eating food and drinking fluid.  The body then breaks down the food and drink into respective nutrients. These nutrients travel down the body to be used where necessary. Carbohydrates are broken down into glucose or used as body fuel, protein is broken down into amino acids and fats are broken down into fatty acids. These nutrients are key nutrients and necessary for good health and proper body function. Adequate Nutrition is based on getting all the right balance of nutrients necessary for good health. Only eating some particular foods will not make you healthier.

Proteins are made up of chains of amino acids and are necessary for your body to build up enzymes, antibodies and hemoglobin. When you eat protein, your body breaks it down into amino acids and then tries to reassemble them into other configurations to make other proteins for use around the body. There are about 20 amino acids which the body needs daily. Eight of them are essential and must be included in the diet daily. This is because the body cannot synthesize them or produce them. The other 12 amino acids are non essential and can be synthesized from other proteins. So if you are consuming protein and miss out on those containing essential amino acids for long periods of time, then you stand the risk of getting malnourished.
kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #10 on: April 11, 2007, 08:28 AM »

There are various scientific means used to test the bioavailability, body utilization and quality of a protein and the amino acids that make up the protein. Some proteins are absorbed extremely well. An example of this is egg albumen. It has very high bio availability and contains all the essential amino acids. It is called a complete protein. It is a protein derived from animal source.

Another group of protein is called incomplete protein. An example of this protein is soya. It contains some essential amino acids but does not have trytophan. It is a protein derived from plant source. Often, proteins from plant sources are incomplete proteins and need to be combined with other sources of proteins in order to provide essential nutrients.

There is another group of protein called complementary protein. These proteins are lacking in one or more essential amino acids and can be combined with other proteins to give a complete protein. Animal protein and plant protein can be taken together to provide the essential amino acids needed for proper body functioning.

Protein sources include meat, poultry, fish, eggs, milk, yoghurt, cheese, dried beans, and legumes.
kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #11 on: April 11, 2007, 08:28 AM »

Milk is the body's main source of calcium, needed for growth and the repair of bones. Yogurt is also a good calcium source. Yogurt and dry or powdered milk products have different amounts of fat. Check labels for fat and calorie content. Milk is good to drink and can be added to cereal and other foods. Choose milk exchanges from the skim and very low-fat, low-fat, and whole-milk lists. Items on the whole-milk list contain much more fat than those on the skim and low-fat lists. Limit your choices from the whole-milk list as much as possible.
From a professional and personal point of view, I do not subscribe to completely cutting some particular groups of food from the diet.  The only exception is for people who have diet related diseases and that category are placed on specialized diet which would try to compensate for the nutrients being lost from the excluded list and compensate for it through other sources.
Otherwise, I emphasize more on reducing and moderating intake and watching the calories to avoid obesity and other diet related diseases. Most food substances are beneficial with their own functions but too much of everything is bad.
teena (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #12 on: April 11, 2007, 03:35 PM »

Kudos to you Kebab, you've really done a nice job, believing you are educating us from your professional experience.

All thanks to nairaland Cheesy
Rlst84sale (m)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #13 on: April 11, 2007, 10:18 PM »

Keebab

I see that you are very knowledge able about this, the only thing is that you have not touched the relativity of the by product of protein to our heallth. You might be right in terms of number of protein. However,  we would need information on how much meat does a zebra, buffalo, and other herbivores eat to develop such strong muscles?. Also what process has the milk you buy on the shelve gone through to sustain the shelf life it currently has, and what happens to protien and other nutrients and enzymes (which are the life force of protien and other nutrients) in it after it is heated for 107 degrees or higher?. remember most milk you buy on the shelves has gone through approximatlely 170 degrees of heat. I think you must be working for a meat or milk or perhaps phamacitical industry or have a represented interest. I really don't have time now ,I have to go for an appointment, but I will be back to go into few details.
Rlst84sale (m)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #14 on: April 11, 2007, 10:19 PM »

Keebab

I see that you are very knowledge able about this, the only thing is that you have not touched the relativity of the by product of protein to our health. You might be right in terms of number of protein. However,  we would need information on how much meat does a zebra, buffalo, and other herbivores eat to develop such strong muscles?. Also what process has the milk you buy on the shelve gone through to sustain the shelf life it currently has, and what happens to protein and other nutrients and enzymes (which are the life force of protein and other nutrients) in it after it is heated for 107 degrees or higher?. remember most milk you buy on the shelves has gone through approximately 170 degrees of heat. I think you must be working for a meat or milk or perhaps pharmaceutical industry or have a represented interest. I really don't have time now ,I have to go for an appointment, but I will be back to go into few details.
kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #15 on: April 11, 2007, 11:15 PM »

I'm sorry to disappoint you but I do not work in a food processing or pharmaceutical company. my only interest is to pass along factual and correct info so that people can make informed decisions. I studied human nutrition n I know my onions.

All food substances, nutrients, antinutrients, water , n even drugs  undergo a metabolic process when consumed. they also produce byproducts which are excreted by the excretory system (which consists of the kidneys, liver and associated organs). God created us with an ecxretory system. Its the reason why we pass out feaces,
urinate, sweat, etc.  a problem may arise if the excretory system is unable to perform its functions and it could be a physiologic factor or it could be related to other factors. in such situations, medical attention and further investigation will be required.

Proteins are made up of amino acids. Amino acids are chemical compounds containing nitrogen, hydrogen. Uric acid is also made from nitrogenous substances. It would be wrong to just say that protein from animal sources will result in uric acid build up n should be avoided. Both plant and animal sources of protein will produce waste products of metabolism, which would normally and ordinarily be excreted from the body.
kebab (f)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #16 on: April 11, 2007, 11:26 PM »

i am not a food technologist so i can't really give info on d heating n processing of milk or food substances. however, i can tell u that processed foods go through a lot of quality controls before they r allowed to go on stands for sale and they have to satisfy the regulatory body, even in Nigeria! lets also not forget that it is not only milk that is processed, even bread undergoes some form of processing!

also u may not compare the metabolic mechanism of zebras, buffalos, etc to that of humans. they are ruminant animals with four stomachs(if u catch my drift)!



Rlst84sale (m)
Re: Is Milk Bad For Your Health?
« #17 on: April 12, 2007, 12:52 AM »

Kebaf

That is the point I was getting at. When food is processed, especially heated it loses almost all it's vitality at 107  degrees or higher, protein is totally killed or denatured at 160 degrees. So what you eat has no nutrients, and all the vitamins, and enzymes that are useful to the body are destroyed, (remember while protein is used to build and repair muscles, enzymes are the life force of that process). But because God created our body very strongly the body still breaks it down and digests it, however, the cells of the body is being wrongly fed, and therefore can not duplicate healthy cells, and most times the after effect of metabolizing these foods are acidic which many times is harmful to the body. That is what results in sicknesses and diseases in people's body.

As per the website I wrote up there, no one has to buy anything from them, only the books I would recommend. If you read the book u will see it goes beyond what we know in foods. Doctors, scientists, nurses are part of their team and researchers. The research is 30 years of proven result. I'm not part of the site, i don't sell their products but the research is real and the information is correct and I'm applying it to my diet and life style every day and it works. I would that all Africans know it and be  in good health. How many Naija do u know can afford a heart, kidney, liver transplant?, how many of our people are dying of cancer and other dreadful diseases when they can avoid it by simple diet and life style?. If even if you are in medical profession you need to read those books and see how much you will help a lot of our people. That is the only reason I respond to that information, because our people are dying for what we don't know. The whole principle is based on Gen 1:29 in the Bible. The research has been so deep and detailed and so many lives are being changed.  in one of the books, a copy of the letter that was sent to Mrs Clinton is in there with facts and figures. It is not for every one but I hope someone would just read and benefit by it.

As a matter of fact, as a nutritionist if you read the books you will see how noble of a profession you have and you will be able to help many people. I was as sceptical as you are when at the begining but things changed as i learn more and more. that's all I have to say now.
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