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kenosky (m)
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author=tommyex Kenosky I feel u,but at times i feel KUWENA likes a shoulder to cry on.Well i don't have a large build,so i can't help most times. small bodi no b weakness o, u sabi so?Kuwena,honestly You need to connect to God,thats all i will say,because if i say more,it will sound offensive Hmmm, God is a necessary factor but i believe the bro will come to the realization finally! Good nyte y'all
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AlfaPrime
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@Ken Seems I missed getting you online narrowly earlier today. Good you didn't take offence at Kuwena, and that you strove to explain your previous post clearly. Reminds me so much of the other point you made earlie about this thread, "we share ideas, not vexations" or something to that effect. @Others: The weekend's over! We're heading back to work tomorrow, I hope everyone's been refreshed.More power to your elbows, all! @Jisi Got your post last time, and copied your views about luck. Hope You were able to get some rest as well this weekend? It's no good feeling more tired on a Monday morning than You were on Friday evening. As someone wittingly pointed out recently, there's a world of different between "Good morning, Lord"  and "Lord! It's morning."  Attitude, I guess. @Kuwena The Zimbabwe issue is really not only an insult to Africa but a sign of our present state of poor leadership showing. I strongly believe personally that a people will always ultimately get the kind of leader they deserve; hence, bad leadership degenerates to a point where we have to turn the searchlight from despotic Mugabe to those (shameless?) supporters and aides who have enabled the octogenerian to remain in power. the history of that country will not be complete without the chronicles of those who tacitly, overtly or covertly gave him support. Afterall, it wouldn't take them more than a few minutes to topple him if they wanted. But alas, they must have long become conquered victims of his "divide and rule" tactics. So let's concentrate on getting the Zimbabweans to the point of political and social conciousness where it would be totally impossible for a Mugabe to hold sway over their destinies, and his removal would be simply a matter of course.
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JISIDAISY (f)
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 hi all, these past few days av bin quite a bore, pplus i had a dislocation on my wrist which affected my typing, or the zeal for it. I'm still in pains guys, this mail was written by my secretary, and i must say it wasnt easy getting him to travel all the way frm new york. Kenosky, thanks alot for lying to me. my wrist is even worse.  Aniffy, whats going on with you? na so u wan treat me? kai, yoruba bobo!!!!!!!!!! Tommyex, wassup mon? Kuwena, 
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kenosky (m)
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Alfaprime, thanx, i appreciate!
Tommyex, kudos, i feel u!
Jisi, you're tite! keep posting!
Kuwena, i m glad to see u v shaken off the gloom and bounced back once again- i believe u!
@all, have a great week ahead, welcome to the new week
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kenosky (m)
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 hi all, these past few days av bin quite a bore, pplus i had a dislocation on my wrist which affected my typing, or the zeal for it. I'm still in pains guys, this mail was written by my secretary, and i must say it wasnt easy getting him to travel all the way frm new york. thanx for taking the pains to bring ur seke all d way from new york (that is another name for akwanga i hear!)Kenosky, thanks alot for lying to me. my wrist is even worse.  there she goes again- are u paid to accuse mi? Kuwena,  that was even shorter than my post the oda night- u just set a record, walahi!
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aniffy4eva (m)
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 hi all, these past few days av bin quite a bore, pplus i had a dislocation on my wrist which affected my typing, or the zeal for it. Sorry about your wrist, i hope it gets healed really soon.Aniffy, whats going on with you? na so u wan treat me? kai, yoruba bobo!!!!!!!!!! No tribalism here o!  I'm so sorry, travelled to the Island to chill. No wahala, we'll make up tonight.  [color=#990000 Aniffy, you're scarce!  Sorry my brother. . . I'm back with full force. . .  @ Kuwena I'm sorry, i guess i had logged off by the time you came on. I left you an offline tho'. I hope to chat with you soon.  @ Everyone How are you doing? Well, i have a question: "If you had all the money and all the time in the world, would you still do what you currently do as a means of livelihood? . .( sure can't wait to read Kuwena's response to this  ) Honest answers only please. . . . . .Anybody? 
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niyooo (m)
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@ Aniffy,
I believe almost everybody except probably those who have started out small on their own will give a definite NO to your question. Because in my opinion, the ultimate for one is to have your own organisation, something that is fully yours, where you can be innovative without anyone shutting up your ideas, where you can take calculated risks and sit back to reap the effects and learn from those ones that go awry. But for someone who has started something, no matter how small, It'll probably be something the person is interested in (except for those doing such just to make ends meet) and so if the person gets all the money he/she wants, the person will just invest more in such. That's my take on your question.
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aniffy4eva (m)
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@ Niyoo Thanks for your viewpoint. However, i have a questionIs it really the ultimate to have your own organisation? Is everyone cut out to be an employer of labour? Opolopo awon to ti se business, ti won ti te. . .  Translation: (for my non-yoruba speaking peeps)  (Many people have gone into businesses with only regret to show for it)
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niyooo (m)
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@ Aniffy, Well the way i see it is this. Even if you are the type that loves being employed, It gets to a stage that you shall definitely be pushed out because you'll have to retire someday, then where does that leave you? Just sitting at home receiving pension and doing nothing? I think you'll want to try your hands at one or two projects that you think you have flair for. So invariably if one is the type that is not too content with that kind of life, then thats where one will end up i.e. with your own organisation, no matter how small. (See my point)
Having said that, I agree with you that not everyone is cut out to be an employer of labour. I think it all depends on what one wants out of life. It's either you want to just pass through life and leave without making a statement or you want to leave and make a statement. And no one said it was ever going to be easy owning your own business, there'll definitely be bumps along the way but if one has done his/her homework probably then one should break through at the end of the day.
On the other hand there are those that rise up are sitting on so many boards of Organisations, Into which category do we classify them? Non-employers of labour or emplyers of labour? Where would you fit them? And then there are those that work retire or resign and just study the stock market and invest or something, I think those ones will fall into the category of doing what they want with their money right?
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kenosky (m)
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aniffy, its good to have u back! ur poser na real poser o! Personally, if i had all the money and time i needed, i would definitely NOT work and it doznt mean i have to start investing either (because u said if i had all i needed na). I would use the time and money to try to better the lot of the people around mi (within and without). Na philantropy go b my calling, walahi! I would take much desired vacations to relax and spent a lot of my money and cause easing the pains of the down trodden! (there's so much pain around u know?) niyoo, kudos- i loved ur take on the poser too even if i don't agree with all u said (its really not all about investing u know?). Well done though bro!
@all, i hail una- alfaprime, kuwena, tommyex, Jisi, pak (e don tay o!) and all our run away brothas and sistaz, i miss y'all! 4 real
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niyooo (m)
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@ KEnosky, I'll say it all depends on the way you interprete my post. Now lets look at the first question "If you had all the money and all the time in the world, would you still do what you currently do as a means of livelihood?". I answered that I believe that most people would not be doing what they are doing now except for those that really love what they are doing even if it's something small. For example (This is just an assumption) I believe that if the Van Goghs', Monets' and Da Vincis' of this world had all the money they needed, they'' still have continued doing what they did best: Dishing out master pieces. Now let's look at your answer "Personally, if i had all the money and time i needed, i would definitely NOT work and it doznt mean i have to start investing either (because u said if i had all i needed na). I would use the time and money to try to better the lot of the people around mi (within and without). Na philantropy go b my calling, walahi! I would take much desired vacations to relax and spent a lot of my money and cause easing the pains of the down trodden" ( I'm sorry i'm too lazy to learn how to encode your response in green like y'all do, time's not really my friend). Now definitely you can't do all that yourself and still get to enjoy the vacation and the rest because in the end you'll just burn out which leads me to my first answer "Because in my opinion, the ultimate for one is to have your own organisation, something that is fully yours, where you can be innovative without anyone shutting up your ideas, where you can take calculated risks and sit back to reap the effects and learn from those ones that go awry" So if you really look at it, you'll see that you'll have to set up your own organisation to run things the way you want and that is the essence of what my answer was. You know investing is not all about money. One can decide to invest in other things just like you said you'll invest in people so IMHO we are both saying the same thing albeit in different ways. Or whatdya think. Now back to the Aniffy's poser and to your answer, i think what makes us humans and therefore higher animals is that we are mostly never content, we always believe there's something we can do better, that's why the Bill Gates', Warren Buffets', Carlos Slims', Dangotes', and Adenugas' of this world are not just sitting on their oars and how much really is enough for us human beings?  Really have to go now. Maybe i'll pop in later to see whatsup. If not, then i wish u all very a nice night rest.
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AlfaPrime
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@Anniffy Permit me to reply properly to your poser later on, but for a brief, I'D just say that my answer to the question, the way U put is, is a CAPITAL NO. In fact, I'D adopt Kennosky's answer almost word for word. Remember U said if I had all the money in the world, not even all the money I wanted. If I had all the money in the world, sure the last thing in my mind would be going into any further financial investments. I'D just focus on making life better for those around me, you know na!  Actually, even for the very rich who go on making more money, many of them do so not because they're addicted to money-making, but because they got rich in the first place, by getting successful in what they liked doing! i So, please, spare me the details for now, I'D be back by tomorrow. Here's wishing everyone a splendid new Month of April. Let's beware of the dangers of engaging in some practical jokes and horseplay in the name of the traditional "April fool"'s day o. @Kuwena et al To all concerned pan- Africans, hope U're following events in Zimbabwe keenly? The opposition MDC has already claimed victory, and the govt is not really disputing it. Seems they're still stunned at their tremendous loss at the polls. Let's just pray the aged President has the sort of dignity and honesty that Pervez Musharaf summoned to admit defeat for his party in the last Pakistani general elections, so we go having a second Kenya anywhere again in Africa!
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kenosky (m)
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almost a whole day and not even one post 2day? una worry o! My people, how una dey? I just said to say hi sha, make una enjoy!
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kuwena (m)
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A new month begins today.
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kuwena (m)
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April begins today. For a lot of people, it is the start of the rains, when the sky, having held back all its pain for so long is forced to burst out in tears before the whole world. Yes, it is April indeed.
Some people have watched the film, Sometimes in April, and have witnessed the massacres that haunted Rwanda for years, even after survivors managed to pick the bits of their nearly wasted lives. Yes, it is April indeed.
It is April when the clouds will envy suckling mothers and rush off to give birth too, to nothing but water; the sort of thing that envy does, when one has black eyes at another's progress and chooses to live in the other's shadow. Yes, it is April, indeed.
On this first day of April, I recall the most significant thing to have ever happened to me, the one thing that has affected me the most in life. The one thing that has most shaped my personality and my world view. It happened years ago, on the first day of April. It really was April. Many years ago.
Read the attachment copied from pages 33 to 35 of Ninety Negro Numbers and thus share with me the 22nd anniversary of the most significant day of my life.
And why won't I share it with you all? You are all siblings. Each and every one of you.
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JISIDAISY (f)
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Hello guyzzzzzzzzzz, It is April. A nu month for another chance to hope, to achieve, and to exceedingly succeed. Speaking of which, I'ld like to-on behalf of my entire village- wish those old middles, something guys success in their Maths test. Kenosky, you know say u no sabi maths, for the last time abeg sit down near, (you know who) and spy his work. No shame oh  Aniffy does it all the time. Hi kuwena, I don't really know you, :-[but going through you posts so far, I think you deserve to treat yourself better. This is a matter of National urgency and emergency. NEMA take note! Greetings to Alfaprime, niyoooooo(how many Os), tommyex, skeelo, and, hmmm, everybody in the whole wide world.(www.) peace out guys, I got work tomorr, Today  oh nnnnnnnnnnnaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwww
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wandel (m)
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Hi Peeps, Got a chance to browse after several weeks and looked up the thread. Was amazed at how much it's grown and the fact that more people have joined. You guys are wonderful! Hope you guys in UK are enjoying the 'back to school' promo as we are here. lol Ok, do have a lovely day. 
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aniffy4eva (m)
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@Anniffy
Actually, even for the very rich who go on making more money, many of them do so not because they're addicted to money-making, but because they got rich in the first place, by getting successful in what they liked doing!
WORD!I would use the time and money to try to better the lot of the people around mi (within and without). Na philantropy go b my calling, walahi! I would take much desired vacations to relax and spent a lot of my money and cause easing the pains of the down trodden! (there's so much pain around u know?) Meanwhile, kenosky, you don't have to wait till you have all the money in the world before you start philantrophy o! i hope you find time to help the down-trodden around you. 
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aniffy4eva (m)
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For those that say Nigeria is the most corrupt country in the world, listen to what Minister Farrakhan (born in New York) had to say in our defence I'D expect Alfaprime and kuwena to enjoy this, You guys would have to visit my blog because' i posted it there.  Just click on the link http://folayemianifowoshe.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/interlude-2/and please leave a comment 
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kenosky (m)
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Kuwena, it is well. Believe mi when i say that this same April will be the month that brings u to that place of reckoning!
Jisi, posting at 3.08am, u be witch? As for the Maths, i blast am scatter, u no know mi?
Wandel, the runaway bro, its good to know u r doin great, welcome to the 'back to school' club o jare- e no easy
aniffy, great job u r doin, please keep it up!
Alfaprime, u r a brotha from another mother- remain focused!
@all, keep reading (even if u r not posting)! Av a great week ahead!
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kuwena (m)
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Kenosky, thanx. yes. I do try to treat myself better. UK peeps, kilonshele, as in wetin dey happen!!! Don't blank us-o! April is here with it's own merits. What was it that Aniffy was saying about jobs and money. Anyway, I guess you know my answer. Wandel, welcome back. Everyone, one love! Peace. 
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kenosky (m)
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Kuwena, thanx for responding sharply to my post! U r still the man! UK peeps no fit ever forget una, u sabi dt one- i wan go sleep (weda i go fit recover from my maths exam today), do av a great night. Tekia
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AlfaPrime
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@Annify Yea, that post on your blog about Farrakhan's comments was quite candid and adressed some issues squarely. U may be surprised to learn that I'm a bit conservative about accepting the views of Louis Farrakhan generally, because he passes across as one who is rabidly incensed against the white race, with a religious bent too. I don't think that's exactly what we need in resolving the racism issue either in the west or in any part of the world for that matter. Martin Luther king's approach remains my 1st, 2nd and last option. Peaceful, civil disobedience, respecting the other, NOT because he's a white, but because U want to show him how he should treat u, in the first place. But all the same, I'D say that majority of Americans already know that American foreign policy over the decades could have done with much less mistakes and bias. a great deal of the issues facing them today across the globe arose from offshoots of their previous actions at one time or the other. @ Kennosky. I went from scoring zero in some tests in my SS1 to making all distinctions in my WAEC, so regardless of how the math exam may have pummelled u chaps, there's always hope for a come-back. Cheers! 
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wandel (m)
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Hi Peeps, Good morning. Maths test???!! E be like say we dey enjoy here o! We are having our induction in Nigeria next week. Hope you guys are cool. @ Kuwena, maybe you could send me a mail to my gmail ( dlari2001@gmail.com) from your officemail so I could follow the sender's path to reply you. Enjoy the new month and, the new challenges and victories. Peace
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aniffy4eva (m)
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@Annify Yea, that post on your blog about Farrakhan's comments was quite candid and adressed some issues squarely. You may be surprised to learn that I'm a bit conservative about accepting the views of Louis Farrakhan generally, because he passes across as one who is rabidly incensed against the white race, with a religious bent too. I don't think that's exactly what we need in resolving the racism issue either in the west or in any part of the world for that matter. Martin Luther king's approach remains my 1st, 2nd and last option. Peaceful, civil disobedience, respecting the other, NOT because he's a white, but because You want to show him how he should treat u, in the first place. But all the same, I'D say that majority of Americans already know that American foreign policy over the decades could have done with much less mistakes and bias. a great deal of the issues facing them today across the globe arose from offshoots of their previous actions at one time or the other.
I pasted the link here because' i often wonder at the way some Nigerians react when foreigners allege Nigeria as being the most corrupt nation in the world. I am not really interested in Farrakhan's religious inclinations but i was awed by the passion he exuded, considering the fact that he's no where near being Nigerian. Yes, its true we have our flaws, but can we be left alone to grow/develop? i hope so. . . As for your choice of Martin Luther King's philosophy, that may have been the case if Nigeria was inhabited by whites and blacks. I beg to diagree. . . I'D rather stick with Jerry Rawlings' stylee;D. . .
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AlfaPrime
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I pasted the link here because' i often wonder at the way some Nigerians react when foreigners allege Nigeria as being the most corrupt nation in the world. I am not really interested in Farrakhan's religious inclinations but i was awed by the passion he exuded, considering the fact that he's no where near being Nigerian. Yes, its true we have our flaws, but can we be left alone to grow/develop? i hope so. . .
As for your choice of Martin Luther King's philosophy, that may have been the case if Nigeria was inhabited by whites and blacks. I beg to diagree. . . I'D rather stick with Jerry Rawlings' stylee;D. . .
Touche, Annify. I agree with you on those issues. I too was quite impressed with the candid submissions and assertions of Farrakhan. Looked up some other U-tube interviews he granted, and he comes across as a sincere speaker. But that's not to say that one cannot be sincerely wrong in beliefs, U know. In one of them, he was admitting complicity in previous crime, In anycase, it's appreciated that some people would opt for Rawlings philosophy as a way of dealing permanently with our leadership/corruption problems in Nigeria, , but before U go ahead with that, remember the Animal Farm allegory. Gets very risky when we resort to arbitrariness in trying to fight arbitrariness and corruption. what is the guarantee that those who execute the judgement are themselves free of complicity and will remain saints tomorrow, after executing the "sinners" today? It's a much safer option to follo defined routes and methods, even though the time may take a little longer. For posterity's sake, justice must not only be done, but more importantly, JUSTICE MUST BE SEEN TO HAVE BEEN DONECheers, all!
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tpia
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gosh, I checked out this thread by accident and i must say, this nairalander known as opokonwa is a very interesting guy.
Now, before you go all tribalistic on me(!), opokonwa, your contributions here were very interesting.
I read maybe 40% or less of the posts, but boy were they lively.
Didnt even realize what NLNG was before now.
Naija!!!
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kenosky (m)
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alfaprime, aniffy, skeelo (runsaway II), i hail all of una! Alfa, we survived the maths- Wandel, did i hear u say test? NA EXAM O! complete one brother! Which induction u dey yarn of again na?
tpia, opoks don abandon this thread far tay na but like u said he was a colossus (did i say was?) who was bestrode the length and breadth of this thread 9not only 'which way nlng?' o! I know that he will still post again for he who posts and runs away must always come back to post again.
aniffy and alfaprime, Farrakhan say them corrupt pass us, that doesnt still remove the fact that we get our own dose of the corruption fever and maybe Rawlings stylee fit help if we combine am with some little King pattern, u know na
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JISIDAISY (f)
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its true the Americans are currupt, but whether they are better corrupt than we are, that i can't say and believe you me I don't think that dude Farrakhan knows Nigeria more than what he's been told. What am I saying? there is corruption everywhere. North oh, south oh, east oh, west oh, corruption abounds. In the church and mosque, e dey there. So if it is so, what then gives that dude the corrupt authority to make that corrupt statement and from his corrupt mind? because I bet he too is Corrupt. what yardstick is corruption measured by? Is it in Meters, Litres, corrupt kg, or what?  .Its not who corrupt pass be the matter, its what we all corrupt people are going to do about it! Sorry guys my post have been a litlte bit irregular-------they just super increased my target. My Ak-47 arrives tomorow. Beware!!! 
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JISIDAISY (f)
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its true the Americans are currupt, but whether they are better corrupt than we are, that i can't say and believe you me I don't think that dude Farrakhan knows Nigeria more than what he's been told. What am I saying? there is corruption everywhere. North oh, south oh, east oh, west oh, corruption abounds. In the church and mosque, e dey there. So if it is so, what then gives that dude the corrupt authority to make that corrupt statement and from his corrupt mind? because I bet he too is Corrupt. what yardstick is corruption measured by? Is it in Meters, Litres, corrupt kg, or what?  .Its not who corrupt pass be the matter, its what we all corrupt people are going to do about it! Sorry guys my post have been a litlte bit irregular-------they just super increased my target. My Ak-47 arrives tomorow. Beware!!! 
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kenosky (m)
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Jisi the fire brand- sorry say i no acknowledge u last night, abeg no use ur AK-47 on mi o! though i dey disappointed small o (na 7 yera olds dey carry Ak-47 go school for yankee na) . I would have expected you to order Rocket Launchers and RPG's (Rocket Propelled Grenades)- or borrow from our brothas in (u know na )
@all, TGIF is here again- sit back and reflect on the week- 'what did u really do and what do u think u can do better next week? Av a great weekend ahead great peeps! 
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