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pak
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@Pak Nonsense and babash to you 10x. How you go talk say i want to pollute Opoks(Imagine!!) and corrupt stanesi. These dude are worse than this sef. Abi you no sabi this guys? Come! Are you a friend or a foe?  I'm a foend .  And stop saying nonsense to me  , I might be much older than you think 
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pak
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@ Jisi did you just update your profile ?
cool, quite cool
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izi-n-bizi (m)
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@Jisi I don't do text fight, noticed You were F , I don't fight F's, I rock them physical.
@Pak I'm sorry, Kuwena Keeps saying I'm sorry ,
@Kenosky I recommend Pastor Chris, atmosphere for miracles, he can make your talk again, we r also praying for you.
@Alfaprime I feel you on the intelligent discussion issue. Please kick it off.
@Jisola mar We applied for LNG a few weeks ago and the story goes, , ask Kuwena to give you details - he started the thread and can really keep you company.
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kuwena (m)
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I greet everyone warmly. I'm somewhat excited today. I put the final stop to my sixth manuscript, The World of Enemies, and have begun my seventh, Witchcraft and Wickedness. What this means is that I have the following manuscripts finished: Ninety Negro Numbers; The African Verses (that is now with the Publishers); A Planner Defiled a People and Two Other Plays; Membusoje Doherty; Small Small So Say, and The World of Enemies. And now I have begun with the seventh, Witchcraft and Wickedness. I am hopeful that Witchcraft and Wickedness will be finished latest by October. I want you all to buy The African Verses when it is out. The website is likely to be fixed up by the end of this week, and rigorous marketing will start, which will basically be publicity for the book which will come out much later (say by November). But even before the book is out, you can begin to place your orders. The book is very likely going to sell for 15 dollars a copy, and if you have a credit card, make sure you have sufficient funds in it. If you do not have a credit card, however, simply go to any bank (Intercontinental, Zenith, UBA etc.) and get a MasterCard, or any other credit card. Then you will be able to buy the book online, and have it shipped to you. You will be able to buy either through my website or through the publisher's website. But I prefer you buy through mine, for obvious reasons.  I am counting on you all to support the book, and to be my chief marketing officers there in Nigeria. If you want to buy in bulk and sell in bits as well, feel free to go through my website ( www.theafricanverses.com). It is likely to be active as from Monday next week, because the publishers contacted me today about it. God bless you all as you support The African Verses. Marketing ideas are welcome. 
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kuwena (m)
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For marketing purposes, I'm keeping this on the first page. 
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AlfaPrime
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@Kennosky Wow. YOur expressions are getting really merrier, or at least cherrier. Me thinks that's a good sign. You'll soon be chirping away like before, don't worry.
@Thread. Work this week has really been something else! Coming back past 11pm is quite an experience. It's actually got me thinking. Where does one draw the line between work and personal life? Is there a limit to the self-sacrifice that gives rise to long hours at work, staring at computer screens and running calculations or making decisions, rushing to beat deadlines, etc. we know it all, am sure,, it's a familiar feel. Big question is, how does this all match up with the need to "have a life of your own"?
I recall now those days when I was still in school, and I'D hear young working class graduates complain about how their plush jobs took up so much of their time that there was neither time again nor energy left to enjoy their jumbo pay, and I thought, "hey, You must be kidding! Give me the job first!" NOw I think perhaps I better understand what they meant. One went as far as analysing why there are very bright flourescent lights in banking halls (he was a banker then). According to him, it was so that the staff wouldn't know when time was flying past, and just keep on working till late into the night, since morning and night would be practically the same due to the constant lighting of the place.
Personally, I think it's really ungrateful for anyone who wrote series of applications and attended several tests and interviews to turn around and start complaining of stress at work, especially as he must have nodded vigorously when asked during the interview about ability to work well under stress. Chaps on the thread, what do we think? (as though it's not work that has largely contributed to the lull on the thread in recent times!) Where is this line to be drawn? How does a worker still eke out a "life" for herself? And while we're at it, what of those who spend long hours at work, simply because they just love their work?
Sincere comments and personal experiences as well as lessons learned will be appreciated. Cheers all!
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izi-n-bizi (m)
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@AlfaPrime Yep, I actually had to resign from a relatively better paying job to one that simply gave me time for myself.You make money you can't spend, you trade your humanity for cash, satisfying someone else's dreams, while your dreams (if you got one) are never satisfied. They tend to define your monetary value, placing a price tag on you. The question you have to ask yourself is "is this what I am truly worth? ", Am I worth 250K per month as a human being with the priceless, dynamic potentials I possess, what am I selling my spirituality, my body and my soul for? In the long run you will certainly end up in misery, I assure and reassure you of that, because fulfillment only comes from accomplishing your purpose, I mean that you were born to be, and that you have dreamt and were created to become. Its a shame the price we put on ourselves. I was not born to be a slave to any person, I might be a slave to the goodwill of the development of humanity, I might be a slave to the revolution of a change but above all I am the perpetual slave of my spirit, my dreams and my aspirations. Better I am the slave of my dreams than that of any system. I am an advocate of the efficacy of Human Resource, when you focus on your aspirations, vision and goals You've set in front of you, materialism becomes your slave, You don't have a choice but to be successful. In summary, lets devote ourselves to a tripartite self development, improving and redefining our worth, think less of being the slave to becoming the master, and if you must stoop, always stoop to conquer. As I am today, no job can pay me, I can only pay myself. Let us learn on how to pay ourselves.
Extracts froom my unpublished book - An assault on Materialism
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kuwena (m)
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Alfa and Izi, I congratulate you both on your brilliant posts. Izi, you particularly noted that there may be a dialectic between humanity and economy, in your words, 'trading humanity for cash.' I support your argument.
I have been in the USA for a little over a month now, and in planning my life here, I have made strong decisions. These decisions are going to guide my actions in the coming years. And these decisions have been consciously favoring cash over humanity.
I think that one starting out as I am, with time as his basic resource, cannot afford to have thriving relationships as well as thriving businesses. You have to choose: Do I want to have intimate friends and spend time in romance? Or do I want to work long and hard and save up money? For me, I want to work long and hard and save up money.
Know what I do these days? For each pay I receive (and up here, you do not have to wait for a month to end to receive a pay check) I split it in five. I take a fifth for personal use; I keep a fifth stashed away in the bank, and I use three-fifths for what I call radical investment.
The logic is this: Bill Gates is the richest man on earth. I want to be very rich too. He has five people in his family (himself, his wife and his three children), but I am only me. So I sacrifice the other 'four' in my 'family'; I save my 'wife' in the bank, and I invest my 'children'. And if I do this for the next 28 years of my life (I'm thinking I may not marry till I'm 55 or so), I will end up a billionaire (in US dollars).
But what is radical investment? For me now, it is doing everything to get all my manuscripts (six completed, one with AuthorHouse, and one still being written) published and marketed all over the world. In this way, I will get royalties. I also will, in time, invest in shares. And ultimately start the Catpar Inc.
For me here and now, FOCUS is all I rely on. There practically is no time for anything else. In my world, it's all work. No television, no friends, no parties; it's all about the Cubs, going to the library; working on my book; speaking with the publishers; attending Kansas Writers' Association and planning my marketing strategy. It's all about becoming the next Oprah or Dangote.
So, Izi I do believe you. You've got to choose. You cannot have 100% in relationships, and 100% in businesses with time as your only resource, when you're starting out. Or what do you think?
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JISIDAISY (f)
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 @ PAK You mean you havent seen ma profile before? Plus sake of say I con send you email sef. Sorry Daddy,didnt know you were that old  . No wonder the name oponle sounded like the 14th century.  . But wait first how old them tell you say u be sef? @izi-n-bizi Nah not this lady, Lad! you can't rock this lady. I think u gotta wake up from your slumber, nice-n-izi  @kenosky  @Alfa I dey greet oh!
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AlfaPrime
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@Izi Word! You really give us food for thought.
@Kuwena Absolutely right: One's got to choose, and to make that choice early enough in life and career, too. In fact, fast,
@jisi How's life? Can see You're online. Cheers!
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niyooo (m)
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Hi all. Hope you're all kul. Bin occupied for a while. Post more later.
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opokonwa (m)
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First of all, I would like to say a 'thank you' to Alfa fo changing the course of the thread. Been off for a while due to other demands. When I came back, I had to watch a little to see where we were going. And it never seemed clear until Alfa's post. It became more animated with Izi's post And what can I say about Kuwena's post?  an icing on the cake. Gonna go now . . . respond to issues later.
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kenosky (m)
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First of all, I would like to say a 'thank you' to Alfa fo changing the course of the thread. Been off for a while due to other demands. When I came back, I had to watch a little to see where we were going. And it never seemed clear until Alfa's post. It became more animated with Izi's post And what can I say about Kuwena's post?  an icing on the cake. Gonna go now . . . respond to issues later.  @ PAK You mean you havent seen ma profile before? Plus sake of say I con send you email sef. Sorry Daddy,didnt know you were that old  . No wonder the name oponle sounded like the 14th century.  . But wait first how old them tell you say u be sef? @izi-n-bizi Nah not this lady, Lad! you can't rock this lady. I think u gotta wake up from your slumber, nice-n-izi  @kenosky  @Alfa I dey greet oh!  @Izi Word! You really give us food for thought.
@Kuwena Absolutely right: One's got to choose, and to make that choice early enough in life and career, too. In fact, fast,
@jisi How's life? Can see You're online. Cheers!
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kuwena (m)
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Let's talk about humility awhile. The bible describes Moses as 'the humblest of men'. I want to be humble as well. Indeed, I tell myself that I have started on my way to becoming a very humble man. And why am I humble? I am humble because I know that all I have and am are God's gift.
The Songist said in the 131st psalm, 'Yahweh, I am not proud.' I say the same thing, too. I say it when my supervisors say things like, 'Waow, you're awesome!' 'Do you know you impress me?' 'My God, you're great!' Here in America, even if you mess, poo, poo; they will say, 'Awesome; my, how great!' Na wa for these people-o!
Anyway, I will keep a level head. I will never get proud. I want to be like Moses. I want people to say, 'Kuwena is the humblest of men.' And I want them to mean it, too.
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kuwena (m)
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One last thing: To succeed, you've got to keep believing. No matter what, keep believing in yourself. 
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izi-n-bizi (m)
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@Kuwena
We can achieve whatever we put our minds to pending what we are willing to sacrifice. Life is so about "Energy Trade" - energy mustered from process A is expended on Process B. So question becomes, what is my paramount need and what do I trade for it. For me, I consider spirituality as the ultimate energy hub which controls other forms of energy via broadcast from the realm of the unknown to that which is known, so I endeavor trading all in my pursuit of spirtual perfection, and this becomes equally very profitable materially.
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kuwena (m)
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And they brought a man to Jesus who had an impediment in his speech. And when Jesus saw him, he was moved with pity; and he touched the ligament of his tongue, and the man's voice was restored to him, and he began to speak and to praise God at the top of his voice.
Kenosky, in the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, receive your speech!
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opokonwa (m)
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We can achieve whatever we put our minds to pending what we are willing to sacrifice
This statement is so true! Especially the latter part. Depending on whether we can make the sacrifice or not, we can achieve whatever we want. The hard part is making the sacrifice. This is where character is defined. And destiny made. The question is what can you afford to sacrifice? Friend? Friends? Family? Comfort? Love? Your soul? Your left-eye? Your mum's head?  Your only child? Hours of hardwork? Cheating?  Can you kill people? Can you kill shame?  Can you kill yourself? etc Or remain ordinary?  Greatness is never for the fainthearted! The question of 'morals' comes into play, one way or another. What you choose to guide and/or dictate your morals also comes into play. How much pain that you are willing to take comes into play. How much that you are willing to give up comes into play. How far that you are willing to go is ultimately tested. But the truth is, whatever dictates your guiding principles, motivation, etc, whether (good, evil or levels of it?), you are ultimately tested!You make choices and you are responsible for the choices you make . . . You will be faced with situations where you may consider making compromises or not, quit or continue, kill or even not to kill, make friends or lose them, live or die! Die hard?  You can call it that. Life is either full of 'Die Hard' choices or you live ordinary  Life is so about "Energy Trade" - energy mustered from process A is expended on Process B. So question becomes, what is my paramount need and what do I trade for it.
This could form a course work in the University. Or even a career part, 'cause it is loaded! But definitely not with our present curricula in our various institutions that teach us paper craps!  And teach us nothing about common sense. For me, I consider spirituality as the ultimate energy hub which controls other forms of energy via broadcast from the realm of the unknown to that which is known, so I endeavor trading all in my pursuit of spirtual perfection, and this becomes equally very profitable materially.
Everything physical has a spiritual dimension. The seen comes from the unseen. The known from the unknown. And even in the spiritual realm, there are levels of knowledge and levels of awareness depending on your heirarchy, what you do and what each spirit is exposed to. Even spirits do not know it all.  Every hierarchy, spirit, throne or thing pointing to one Godhead who reigns over Good, Evil and all. Your last two statements begs questions: What do you mean by 'trading all'? What is 'all'? How much of 'all' are you willing the trade? How do you go about trading it?Finally, can anyone ever attain 'spiritual perfection'?  Ain't we by nature imperfect? Are there levels of 'perfection'? Will you become 'normal' in trying to attain 'spiritual perfection'? (I'm pretty sure that the answer to this is 'No'  ) Is 'attaining spiritual perfection' a journey or a destination?  Guy, I am simply a 'student' who is trying to learn more via posing challenging questions. I beg to learn from the few that knows.  However, Izi! You made points up there! (sometimes I wonder where you've been all these while and the depth of what you know )You know that one can write books on those topics that you hinted above, even 'bestsellers'?  That is if one understands the depth of what you just wrote. And if one can seperate one point from another (or even attempt to link the connections if any  ) What you wrote is absolutely spiritual (as well as physical) I don't even want to go into all that because it takes a lifetime of learning, practice and being to attain a level of perfection in anything. Not to talk of 'spiritual perfection'  That one is an absurd ambition. Besides, as regards the spiritual realm and its understanding, no man knows enough. Not even spirits themselves.  There are only levels of knowledge and levels of understanding varying from one humanbeing or spirit to another. And yes, the spiritual controls the physical. But I guess, this discuss is not for every mind. 
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opokonwa (m)
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I guess my last post was damn too long! It's not for lazy mindz anyway 
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kuwena (m)
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This statement is so true! Especially the latter part. Depending on whether we can make the sacrifice or not, we can achieve whatever we want. The hard part is making the sacrifice. This is where character is defined. And destiny made. The question is what can you afford to sacrifice? Friend? Friends? Family? Comfort? Love? Your soul? Your left-eye? Your mum's head?  Your only child? Hours of hardwork? Cheating?  Can you kill people? Can you kill shame?  Can you kill yourself? etc Or remain ordinary?  Greatness is never for the fainthearted! The question of 'morals' comes into play, one way or another. What you choose to guide and/or dictate your morals also comes into play. How much pain that you are willing to take comes into play. How much that you are willing to give up comes into play. How far that you are willing to go is ultimately tested. But the truth is, whatever dictates your guiding principles, motivation, etc, whether (good, evil or levels of it?), you are ultimately tested!You make choices and you are responsible for the choices you make . . . You will be faced with situations where you may consider making compromises or not, quit or continue, kill or even not to kill, make friends or lose them, live or die! Die hard?  You can call it that. Life is either full of 'Die Hard' choices or you live ordinary  This could form a course work in the University. Or even a career part, 'cause it is loaded! But definitely not with our present curricula in our various institutions that teach us paper craps!  And teach us nothing about common sense. Everything physical has a spiritual dimension. The seen comes from the unseen. The known from the unknown. And even in the spiritual realm, there are levels of knowledge and levels of awareness depending on your heirarchy, what you do and what each spirit is exposed to. Even spirits do not know it all.  Every hierarchy, spirit, throne or thing pointing to one Godhead who reigns over Good, Evil and all. Your last two statements begs questions: What do you mean by 'trading all'? What is 'all'? How much of 'all' are you willing the trade? How do you go about trading it?Finally, can anyone ever attain 'spiritual perfection'?  Ain't we by nature imperfect? Are there levels of 'perfection'? Will you become 'normal' in trying to attain 'spiritual perfection'? (I'm pretty sure that the answer to this is 'No'  ) Is 'attaining spiritual perfection' a journey or a destination?  Guy, I am simply a 'student' who is trying to learn more via posing challenging questions. I beg to learn from the few that knows.  However, Izi! You made points up there! (sometimes I wonder where you've been all these while and the depth of what you know )You know that one can write books on those topics that you hinted above, even 'bestsellers'?  That is if one understands the depth of what you just wrote. And if one can seperate one point from another (or even attempt to link the connections if any  ) What you wrote is absolutely spiritual (as well as physical) I don't even want to go into all that because it takes a lifetime of learning, practice and being to attain a level of perfection in anything. Not to talk of 'spiritual perfection'  That one is an absurd ambition. Besides, as regards the spiritual realm and its understanding, no man knows enough. Not even spirits themselves.  There are only levels of knowledge and levels of understanding varying from one humanbeing or spirit to another. And yes, the spiritual controls the physical. But I guess, this discuss is not for every mind.  Alleluia, he can talk!
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kuwena (m)
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Sometimes, I imagine walking into a building and seeing written there on the wall: 'We don't tolerate small people here.' Just think about it. Ain't it simply amazing? 
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AlfaPrime
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Let's talk about humility awhile. The bible describes Moses as 'the humblest of men'. I want to be humble as well. Indeed, I tell myself that I have started on my way to becoming a very humble man. And why am I humble? I am humble because I know that all I have and am are God's gift.
The Songist said in the 131st psalm, 'Yahweh, I am not proud.' I say the same thing, too. I say it when my supervisors say things like, 'Waow, you're awesome!' 'Do you know you impress me?' 'My God, you're great!' Here in America, even if you mess, poo, poo; they will say, 'Awesome; my, how great!' Na wa for these people-o!
Anyway, I will keep a level head. I will never get proud. I want to be like Moses. I want people to say, 'Kuwena is the humblest of men.' And I want them to mean it, too.
Funny Kuwena. "let's talk about humility", he says only to go ahead and talk about Kuwena, Humility is a most admired quality in anyone, but especially so in leaders and very successful people. However, one funny thing about both huimlity and pride is that they are there for others to notice in you, not you to appraise yourself. For instance, a man who cknowledges his pride is probably not as proud as he may think;and as for the one who announces his own humility, well, your guess is as good as mine. @Thread Workers on the thread, please, we stil await contributions to the matter of knowing where to draw the line in terms of time spent at work and the work-life balance. Cheers all!
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niyooo (m)
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Hi all, Sorry haven't still had time to catch up on the thread. Bin a bit busy but just thought to inform y'all that I was successful in the exams i wrote a while back. CFA level I so now I have to prepare for the next stage.
Kenosky cat don cut your tongue for Oyibo land wey u go bah? Abi na wonderment at the difference between there and here still dey surprise you? Abeg bros re-adjust sharp sharp. Kuwena how yonder? Alfa, Anniffy, Opoks, Jisi, Izi, Stan, Pak and everyone I hail una. Peace out.
Good night all.
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tobaaro (m)
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Make una buy car jare! Ds Thread has 2 much talk-talk.
Type the link: www. 9jacars. blogspot. com without the spaces and see really affordable cars near you.
They are updated daily so u gota keep checking. I even got an E class for 850k and a really cheeap Volvo sef!
And d cars are reaaly cool and alryt too
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