The Greatest Miracle In Islam

I wonder why this thread still continues everyone should know that the author of this thread is not asking question neither is he seeking knowledge he already concluded the answer to his thread that there was no miracle in islam i dont think anybody should continue to try convince him he get happiness by getting people angry then why should he create the thread in the first place.This is not a forum thread but a judged thread by the author himself.

Prophet Muhammed S.A.W is the last prophet for mankind, and i beleive the greatest miracle is the message he brought for mankind in its undistorted form

@Helperzz: If Pligrim.1's conclusion is the final answer on Islam, then what inference does the conclusion of Estes, a former Preacher, a white Texan has on Christianity on Christianity, now that he is a Muslim Sheikh in America, where Islam is not popular? Lets compare both of them in their former lives;

Pligrim.1 told us her life history from Lagos to Georgia. She emphasised that she wore Hijab, coming from moderately conservative Muslim family. She made sure to tell us that she chased boys, and particularly white boys. She told us that she defended Islam and ridiculed Christianity, ala statements of Muhamad (AS), and them wham, she found Jesus through one of these many white boyfriends! She also informed us that her father found Jesus just about that time, and sure her mother and her computer Engineer, or scientist whose earning made her to be able to spend even more monies at the malls is now a christian, too.

Sheikh Yusuf Estes told us about his life history how much he thought he could convince a Muslim Egyptian businessman, to become Christian, while at the same time hoping to sell Pianos and Drums to all the Mosques in the world, until he found Islam agreeable and he confesses that his father and step mother are still christians.


Lets compare the morality of the two; At young age, religious or not, no young persons should occupy their hearts with the thought of any from the opposite sex! The outcome is alway not as good as if the heart is relatvely free from sex and people of opposite gender. But Pligrim.1 made sure that she looked forthem, ran after many white boys, changing one for the other, from England to America, all the while donning the Hijab, a dress code to actually commanded to serves exactly the opposite of what she "forcefully looked for", in my opinion, because she did not allow the boys to even look and try to approach she put it out there, going after them herself. This is what she said in her own "type/word".


Should anyone expect a better outcome than her leaving Islam? I do not, considering that Hijab did not protect her from nothing, and I see Black and White young persons, muslims and non Muslims not occupying their mind as much with the opposite gender. Lets face it, people who cant be conforming to what they say they are are hypocrites and sooner Allah exposes hypocracy. They say if you laydown with dogs you will get up with fleas, and the sheep that is in the company of dogs, always will eat what dogs eat! These are enough to show plausible reasons she left Islam, and she knew nothing in Islam then, even as she said she submitted, her heart didnt!

Before she puts up her life History, I had asked that I speak with her father, thinking that he was in far away Nigeria, until she said he lives with the family in Georgia USA, while she studies in England. Her father, okay alittle older than me, if at all, will be a better person to discuss with than her, only to ask him what he found in Christianity that was missing in Islam; Is it the 3 persons God? Or the killing of one of them to get the salvation from the three of them, while he reluctantly dies/give up the ghost(spirit in human/soul in human) as he cried out and many more, but she never gave me the chance.

My conclusion is that she either made her story up, knew not Islam, except as a yoruba girl, and combinations of internet knowledge, she weaved a very interesting a whooper of a tale.

Sheikh Estes is a better moral man than when he was a Christian today. He does not give every woman a peck which is nothing among the Christians, ready to hug and almost caress a stranger at the drop of a dime, all under the disguise of salutation, or a little more!

Islam should rid off hypocrites and he or she should only be muslim when not going to be hypoctite in the heart but muslim in the mouth, without a single internal shred to the essence of Islam. From the pool of nieces from a sister, the one I thought will be a terrible person, still a virgin now is planning to marry this year, she is 26 and knows what she wants.

There is nothing Jesus did that was extra ordinary; he should have been born as adult, or just became adult right after she came out of mom, and not depend on her as normal human. Adam was created a fully grown man, there is no mom to breast him, etc. Yet Adam is no God. Eve his wife was cloned as a full adult, no one to breast her, or be a father to her, the original man is her husband, a bigger miracle since it was reported that they have normal children in the physiological and genetical ways, and they were the first to do this, another miracle.

Or was it Jesus that created them, as in molding them if you will, or the Islamic Be, so it Be (Kun Fa ya Kun)? What did Jesus do and who created Jesus, and if you say Jesus was not created, then we have incomplete Creator(s) in Christendom. None of the miracles of Jesus was something that man was not familiar with before he performed them. He did not perform miracle at any time to save his own life, instead his parents ran away with him to Egypt, the country that imprisoned as slaves his people, and not yet Coptic Christians, no?


As adult he surrendered to a human Judge and Judgement and your Bible recorded that he was hung. He did not show a prophetic faith, in his fate on the tree he lamented about God, not father, not partner, not trinity abandoning him. Man, tell a better story, because am waiting.

@BabyOsisi

Infact, I could not stop laughing because of your "Ajansa"

Thank God we are muslim,

'o you who believe ! Enter perfectly to Islam and follow not the footseps of shaitan, verily he is to you a plain enemy' Quran 2:208

@abuzola , you call your mohamad a prophet? please can you tell me what he prophesy or is it your allah that did not  even know the shape of the earth. still you are blind by funny superstition one of it is that woman should cover their hair b,cos of their is one single hair aching the angel primitive superstition if that it's possible  why did your allah creat such hair , well i know that your allah is dead your  allah can't even killed the goat the ate up the guran after the death of your mohamad claimed aisha.

@abuzola, like i said your allah is dead and dummie is powerless to the extent that your prophet can't even healed himself of poison is that not rediculous

@olabowale,Are there miracles through the hands of Muhammad (AS) performed by Allah (AS) and outside the Quran? Many, but am going to talk about the eye of Qatada which babs787 entered as his primary argument on the 11th of April, 2007. Pligrim.1 is a very smart girl and so is Batu and Dr. Osisi, formerly Babyosisi. When Babs787 entered as pupil, and at the same time used the words hanging and cut about the eye, smart thing to do was to rsearch if it is the "pupil" (a vacuum/space) in front of the lens that was meant. Afterall, it was originally related by arabs in arabic language and english writing of it is an attempt which came later to translate it to us the non-arabic speakers. Could it be that the translator have made mistakes from the arabic text to english?

My proof: In the Quran, there is a particular phrase in about more than 5 places. It is Kun fa ya Kun. In english it is translated to mean Be and it is. If you know anything about arabic language, there is no "and" in that phrase at all, because "wa" is "and" and it is missing from it. But "fa" is not and, but "so"! The correct phrase then is "Be, so it Be", not "Be and it is"!

I now present to you the ahadith that babs787 presented and it is not the pupil of the eye at all, but it is the eye "Ball" the total eye that was "hanging and they were thinking of cutting it", and the prophet (AS) by Allah healed it!
Please read it in the nex pieces, posts! Thanks.

LOOK STOP TWISTING WHAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT IT'S TRUE AND GLARING HERE OKAY , YOUR ALLAH IS AN ILLITERATE, lets look at
this what you proof  "KUN fa ya kun " does it change the word pupil to eyes ball or are they not different word entirely , please  you can't proof that right ok kun ya kun does not change the word pupil to eyes ball so  please we are not daft on here ok, try to upgrade your reason is poor

Jazakallahu Khair, Sheik the seeker. the dude does not think. Proof; if fa in Kun fa ya kun is so, but the english translators mistranslate it to be and which is wa, shouldnt he have known that eyeball was probably the element which the english translator mistranslated it to be pupil, since eyeball can be cut, which means attached as in hanging, rather than the vacuum place known as pupil, which can not hang or attached?

I blame that young girl Osisi for not using her medicine to let us know that hanging and cut is definitely not referring to pupil! She knows but her christian deceiving mind will not let her tell us the truth. Well, we say it is Eyeball, and whosoever wants to proof us wrong should present the miracle in arabic language and point to us what is Pupil in the arabic text!

You have said it all.

Miracle in Islam ??

I beg I no fit laugh O 

Muhammed was NOT a prophet in the first place and will never be a Prophet. He was a Saudi Arabian Warlord. He was NOT called by God and hence cannot perform any miracle.

Aisha (The child bride of that pervert Muhammed) in the Hadith said the following :

Sahih Al-Bukhari HadithHadith 6.378        Narrated byMasruq
I said to 'Aisha, "O Mother! Did Prophet Muhammad see his Lord?" 'Aisha said, "What you have said makes my hair stand on end ! Know that if somebody tells you one of the following three things, he is a liar: Whoever tells you that Muhammad saw his Lord, is a liar." Then Aisha recited the Verse:
"No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision. He is the Most Courteous Well-Acquainted with all things."   (6.103) "It is not fitting for a human being that Allah should speak to him except by inspiration or from behind a veil."  (42.51)


'Aisha further said,


"And whoever tells you that the Prophet knows what is going to happen tomorrow, is a liar." She then recited:


"No soul can know what it will earn tomorrow."  (31.34)
She added: "And whoever tells you that he concealed (some of Allah's orders), is a liar." Then she recited: "O Apostle! Proclaim (the Message) which has been sent down to you from your Lord, " (5.67) 'Aisha added, "But the Prophet saw Gabriel in his true form twice."

Tabari 1:181 " The Prophet said 'I was sent immediately before the coming of the
Day of Doom. I preceded it like this one preceding that one' -referring to his index and middle finger"


182 "he said 'Allah will not make this nation [of Islam] incapable of lasting half a day -a day being a thousand years- …Consequently, based upon the Prophet's authority,, what remained of time was half a day that had elapsed to the Prophet's statement corresponds to 6500 years"

Based upon Muhammad's prophecy, Dooms Day should have occurred 500 years after this 'revelation' which occured about 610 AD.

Well, as we all know, the year 1110 had passed and we are in the year 2007 AD without the prophecy of the infallible 'Prophet' having come true.

Muhammad's alleged prophesies could be counted on one hand none of which ever came true.

God have mercy and direct the lost Muhammedan to the right path.
 

a day with the Lord is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day.



straight from the bible.

'consider not that the disbelievers can escape in the land. Their abode shall be the Fire - and worst indeed  is that destination' Quran 24:57

Let me state just one of all the "Precepts of Men" formulated by Apostle Paul to the Christians (according to Isaiah 29:13,16), with this simple verse.

1Cor 1:25 (KJV) "Because the FOOLISHNESS OF GOD is wiser than men; and the WEAKNESS OF GOD is stronger than men."

This is so Amazing! Could an Inspired Man of God, still be Inspired to write these STRANGE BLASPHEMIES about "His GOD"? So sometimes Apostle St. Paul and His Followers could have A GOD that could sometimes be FOOLISH and as well WEAK? It is even possible that they have a GOD that could be sometimes "HUNGRY" as well???, lol (i.e the HUNGER of THEIR GOD, is better than the SATISFACTION of men, Abi???

Am not so suprised because, "He his also Inspired not to See This Verse"
Pslam 147:5(KJV) "Great is Our Lord, and of Great Power: His UNDERSTANDING is INFINITE"

@olabowale, what is your problem wit Pilgrim.1? Aren't u tired of insulting her? 'Old man' what brought her parents in2 dis? What sayeth thou concernin your beloveth UPLAWAL n Her  bed breaking IMAM boyfriend dat led her 2 islam? 'old man' y not leave pilgrim.1 alone? U cant kill her. Her life is hid in Christ, Christ In God!!