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IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #32 on: May 02, 2007, 07:19 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on May 02, 2007, 06:45 PM
When a Muslim overdoes it like you said,he blows up buildings,himself and several others that he doesn't know,is that what born again Christians do?
I think not!Please stop sounding ridiculous on a public forum.
Crusaders killed, raped e.t.c in the name of christianity is that not overdoing it ?
I'll tell you what, I know that's not christinanity and I don't lead people to believe that's what christinity teaches.
But the truth is that it was done by christians. That's the same thing with the case of the bombers.
Think of it why is it only some particular countries and governments are targetted by such terrorist ?

I think it all boils down to cause and effect. You(USA) attack my country (Afghanistan, Iraq e.t.c) Killed, raped, sodomized and you automatically become my target for attack.

When I attack, am a terrorist, when they kill innocent children, they are fighting terrorism.
I think terrorism is a creation of the USA.

If terrorism is part of Islam and not part of an American scheme then why are there no terrorist attacks during the cold war?

America is just looking for a new enemy and it created the Muslim terrorist.

Quote from: babyosisi on May 02, 2007, 07:01 PM
You folks should stop all this ramblings and go straight to the point.
I know Muslims in Arab countries and Asian Muslims marry their cousins,do hausa Muslims do that or not ,that is the question not all this taquiyyah.

It is allowed in Islam and if you don't like it don't do it.

By the way how many non muslims have committed fornication with there cousins ?
I think we should be complaining about things like fornication and our ever increasing number of illegitimate children

Just a question for those southerners that hate northerners, did you choose to be southerners ?
I know you didn't, that's why I won't hate you for being southerners.
Because doing that is like blaming God for making southerners.

Please stop the hatred and start thinking positively
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #33 on: May 02, 2007, 07:23 PM »

Quote from: Dis Guy on May 02, 2007, 07:05 PM
since you already came to conclusions about muslims in general why are you so bothered about the ones in your country

and this is not really a question is it?


and since you're not denying it,why the argument?
Oyb never denied it,he only told us it's not illegal in some US states (the typical deflection answers when questions are asked) Why do Muslims marry their cousins?the question is yet unanswered?

was it what Mohammed said?
Did he marry his cousins
was it not addressed?
Cousins girls are just girls,why not?

what is the right answer


Quitestorm (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #34 on: May 02, 2007, 07:25 PM »

You seem pressed! And you ain't get'en no more press from me.You better seek attention else where mahaukaciyar banza,
Dis Guy
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #35 on: May 02, 2007, 07:31 PM »

argument? which argument?





babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #36 on: May 02, 2007, 07:33 PM »

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 07:19 PM
Crusaders killed, raped e.t.c in the name of christianity is that not overdoing it ?I'll tell you what, I know that's not christinanity and I don't lead people to believe that's what christinity teaches.
But the truth is that it was done by christians. That's the same thing with the case of the bombers.
Think of it why is it only some particular countries and governments are targetted by such terrorist ?

I think it all boils down to cause and effect. You(USA) attack my country (Afghanistan, Iraq e.t.c) Killed, raped, sodomized and you automatically become my target for attack.

When I attack, am a terrorist, when they kill innocent children, they are fighting terrorism.
I think terrorism is a creation of the USA.


If terrorism is part of Islam and not part of an American scheme then why are there no terrorist attacks during the cold war?

America is just looking for a new enemy and it created the Muslim terrorist.

It is allowed in Islam and if you don't like it don't do it.

By the way how many non muslims have committed fornication with there cousins ?
I think we should be complaining about things like fornication and our ever increasing number of illegitimate children

Just a question for those southerners that hate northerners, did you choose to be southerners ?
I know you didn't, that's why I won't hate you for being southerners.
Because doing that is like blaming God for making southerners.

Please stop the hatred and start thinking positively
So the Muslim terrorists are making up for the crusaders eh?
They've  been  making up non stop since the time of Mohammed.
The crusaders stopped in the 15th century when will the jihadists quit?
IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #37 on: May 02, 2007, 07:35 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on May 02, 2007, 07:23 PM
and since you're not denying it,why the argument?
Oyb never denied it,he only told us it's not illegal in some US states (the typical deflection answers when questions are asked) Why do Muslims marry their cousins?the question is yet unanswered?

was it what Muhammad said?
Did he marry his cousins
was it not addressed?
Cousins girls are just girls,why not?

what is the right answer




They marry there cousins because it's allowed and is not classified as incest.
Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) Never Married His Cousin.

And Now My Questions

1- Why do many Southerners hate Northerners ?

3-Why do christians say 3 is one when it cannot be proved mathematically ?


4-Why do christians believe that mary had a child for God ?

5-Why do christians call Jesus (PBUH) son of God when even in the bible he called himsel "Son of man" ?

6-Why are many Nigerian christians seems so fanatical despite the fact that Jesus is only sent 'to the lost
sheep of the house of Israel"

And just a little request, I want straight mature answers that will be understood by everybody not some
hatred filled reply. Smiley
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #38 on: May 02, 2007, 07:35 PM »

Quote from: Quitestorm on May 02, 2007, 07:25 PM
You seem pressed! And you ain't get'en no more press from me.You better seek attention else where mahaukaciyar banza,

that must be a good saying,give it to yo mama

laudate
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #39 on: May 02, 2007, 07:36 PM »

Quote from: Dis Guy on May 02, 2007, 06:48 PM
well prior to reading your comments on nairaland i thought i had no live whatsoever! But the number of times the words muslims,islam,yorubas,hausa,northerners have been in your posts usually with negative steorotypes have been really reassuring! Thanx Cheesy

Oh, so you noticed that too??!! How strange. Thought I was the only one with that impression.  Tongue
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #40 on: May 02, 2007, 07:37 PM »

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 07:35 PM
They marry there cousins because it's allowed and is not classified as incest.
Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) Never Married His Cousin.

And Now My Questions

1- Why do many Southerners hate Northerners ?

3-Why do christians say 3 is one when it cannot be proved mathematically ?


4-Why do christians believe that mary had a child for God ?

5-Why do christians call Jesus (PBUH) son of God when even in the bible he called himsel "Son of man" ?

6-Why are many Nigerian christians seems so fanatical despite the fact that Jesus is only sent 'to the lost
sheep of the house of Israel"

And just a little request, I want straight mature answers that will be understood by everybody not some
hatred filled reply. Smiley

Don't change the topic.
Start a thread on that and if I care,I'll answer you!

and why did I have to beat the answer out of you?
now why did your prophet Mohammed allow it,did they run out of women for the second,third and 4th wives and suddenly the cousins became eligible?
IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #41 on: May 02, 2007, 07:43 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on May 02, 2007, 07:33 PM
So the Muslim terrorists are making up for the crusaders eh?
They've  been  making up non stop since the time of Muhammad.
The crusaders stopped in the 15th century when will the jihadists quit?
lol @babyosisi, it seems you are so much blinded with hatred that you didn't even take time to understand my post.
Now here it is in lay man's , sorry lay woman's language Grin

The crusaders did what they did in the name of christianity despite the fact that there actions are not approved by christianity.

The muslim terrorist are doing what they are doing in the name of Islam despite the fact that it is not approved by Islam.


If you do not understand it  you can tell me what your native language is, I believe I can get an interpreter to help. Grin

And is it not funny that some people on this forum have become popular Haters Cheesy Cheesy
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #42 on: May 02, 2007, 07:49 PM »

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 07:43 PM
lol @babyosisi, it seems you are so much blinded with hatred that you didn't even take time to understand my post.
Now here it is in lay man's , sorry lay woman's language Grin

The crusaders did what they did in the name of christianity despite the fact that there actions are not approved by christianity.

The muslim terrorist are doing what they are doing in the name of Islam despite the fact that it is not approved by Islam.

If you do not understand it you can tell me what your native language is, I believe I can get an interpreter to help. Grin

And is it not funny that some people on this forum have become popular Haters Cheesy Cheesy

and point of correction,babyosisi is a lover not a fighter.

How about those who kill "koran desecrators" and apostates from Islam
Where in the world did they get such an idea from? Grin
laudate
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #43 on: May 02, 2007, 07:49 PM »

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 07:35 PM
And Now My Questions

1- Why do many Southerners hate Northerners ?

I don't believe many Southerners hate Northerners. How many have you met? How many have you worked with? Studied with? Lived with? Please don't take all the acid comments you have read on this website, as an indication of how the average Southerner feels about the average Northerner.

What draws the ire of the average Southerner are the periodic riots in the North, which are often instigated by the Almajiris. Whenever those riots break out, there are often heavy losses of human lives and material possessions.  And each time it happens, Southerners who reside in those areas seem to be the worst hit. Unfortunately, the state governments, police and other regulatory agencies in those areas who are meant to keep the peace, often do very little to bring those involved in the mayhem, to book. Neither do they try to avert repeated occurences. For this reason, a lot of Southerners feel resentful that nothing is being done to protect their lives and property. And this resentment festers, sometimes for years. Such bottled up emotions leads some of them to conclude that all northerners are involved in this babaric act, when in actual fact, quite a sizeable number of northerners also end up as casualties in these riots.

Fact is, not all northerners are the same. But the pain of the material & human losses that many southerners have suffered in the north, makes some of them think that northerners are all alike, and are to blame for this barbaric act. It is sad.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #44 on: May 02, 2007, 07:56 PM »

When a crowd rushes out of a mosque and attacks Christian bystanders for a cartoon in denmark who do I blame?
The almajiris or the Imam?

When an Islamic cleric and government officials join in burning flags and celebrating 9/11 in an Islamic state,do I blame the almajiri?,hardly.
They  model what they are taught.
They model what they are told!
Where do those teachings of calling us pigs and apes come from?
 killing
let's be real when a religious teaching sanctions the killing of someone for touching a book that can be bought at a book store or killing of an apostate,it ceases to be a religion,it takes on another meaning.
IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #45 on: May 02, 2007, 08:08 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on May 02, 2007, 07:49 PM
and point of correction,babyosisi is a lover not a fighter.

How about those who kill "koran desecrators" and apostates from Islam
Where in the world did they get such an idea from? Grin

Why would you desecrete the Qur'an in the first place ?

As for apostacy, it is like treason. Why do people get killed for treason.
This is how to go about it when you want to leave Islam. Go to a place not under Islamic influence.
Somebody did it during the lifetime of the prophet and the prophet did not send for his head even though he could.

@laudate, don't get me wrong, I have many friends and mentors that are southerners. In that post I was talking about southerners like bayosisi.

Talking about riots and the problems that come with it. They happen everywhere in the Country, not only in the North.
We all know about what groups like O.P.C have done.

It's a general problem in the country that is actually not caused by you being a southerner or northerner.
In my opinion, it's mostly instigated for political interests that's why it's rampant during civilian administrations.

I think you will agree with me that many of the riot( though not all) are instigated as reprisal for earlier riots that occur in the south (ogbomosh, onitsha, lagos e.t.c). I believe you will also agree with me that northerners are also victims of such riots in the north.
You may be surprised to hear that at many of such riots, many northerners give southerners protection despite the fact that they are putting themselves to risks of attacks.
I know of an incident in which a local Islamic group protected a church in their area from being razed down by rioters. Because islamically it is the duty of the host muslim community to protect the christians in their community.

I think the religious problems in Nigeria is largely due to people's ignorance of their own religions. Another factor may be
presence of mischievous people (both muslims and christians) that stir problems.   
IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #46 on: May 02, 2007, 08:14 PM »

Quote from: babyosisi on May 02, 2007, 07:56 PM
When a crowd rushes out of a mosque and attacks Christian bystanders for a cartoon in denmark who do I blame?
The almajiris or the Imam?

When an Islamic cleric and government officials join in burning flags and celebrating 9/11 in an Islamic state,do I blame the almajiri?,hardly.
They  model what they are taught.
They model what they are told!
Where do those teachings of calling us pigs and apes come from?

When America attacked muslim countries without any proof that 9/11 was committed by muslims how do you expect people to see America. And I tought does "terrorist" are fighting America and not christianity. Why do so many christians get emotional about it. They don't get that emotional when they see the terrorism committed against blacks during slave trade.

Please does America represent christianity and are they fighting a christian war in those countries ? Huh Huh

I think people like bayosisi are confused and looking for every excuse to attack Muslims.

Quote
let's be real when a religious teaching sanctions the killing of someone for touching a book that can be bought at a book store or killing of an apostate,it ceases to be a religion,it takes on another meaning.

Let's be real and go back to the teachings of the bible, the when your hand will make you sin, cut off the hand Grin.
@bayosisi, there's no way the whole world will be the same. No matter the fanatic hatred you spread. The world will never be completely christian or completely moslem. Those christian that do think know that and will not agree to your views. Can't you see that even by nature we are of different races, tribes e.t.c

Please don't be provoked but I think you need some help.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #47 on: May 02, 2007, 08:37 PM »

Al taquiyah is the act of Islamic deception so I'm not  surprised when you use it to suit your purposes.
If you can comfortably shout allahu akhbar at the beheading of your fellow man for what you call desecration and apostacy  and the rest of the world calls freedom of speech,need I say more.

You don't belong with thinking humans

And what has America got to do with thjis situation?
Start by asking sunnis why they are beheading shittes and move on from there.
Beauty starts from within!

I guess Mohammed and atta and the other 9/11 jihadists were hindus!!
Why can't you guys be truthful for once,is it unislamic?
IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #48 on: May 02, 2007, 08:48 PM »

@Bayosisi, it's like you are completely ignorant of Islam.
Taquiya is a shiite teaching, you don't find it in the qur'an or hadith.

Talking about 9/11 I think you are either living in an American cave since 2001 or you have been
brainwashed by the American media.

All independent investigations into the 9/11 attacks points back to the American government.
Sorry I was having a very high assumption of your knowledge of current affairs Grin Grin

I shouldn't have stressed myself so much trying to discuss with you at the same level

Learn to learn on your own but I think the following will help
http://www.911hoax.com/
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/911_a_hoax.htm
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/911_photos_prove_hoax.htm
http://www.vialls.com/homerun/homerun.html

You see what I told you about you needing help ?
Now am trying to help "unwash" your brain  Grin Grin
laudate
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #49 on: May 02, 2007, 08:55 PM »

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 08:08 PM

I think you will agree with me that many of the riot( though not all) are instigated as reprisal for earlier riots that occur in the south (ogbomosh, onitsha, lagos e.t.c).

I didn't quite get the point you were trying to make. Are you claiming that the northern riots occurred as a reprisal for the ones that had earlier taken place in the South? If that is what you mean, I think you have gotten it all wrong. The riots in the South actually occurred as a reprisal for the ones that had earlier taken place in the north. Not the other way round. That has usually been the pattern.

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 08:08 PM
I believe you will also agree with me that northerners are also victims of such riots in the north.

You may be surprised to hear that at many of such riots, many northerners give southerners protection despite the fact that they are putting themselves to risks of attacks.I know of an incident in which a local Islamic group protected a church in their area from being razed down by rioters. Because islamically it is the duty of the host muslim community to protect the christians in their community.

Yes, am aware that there are northerners that have protected southerners, whenever such riots have taken place. But their acts of kindness are often under-reported by such southerners. Why? I guess because bad news travels fast. Am also aware that Christian northerners have also been victims of such riots. Yet, very little is heard about their own losses. Again, the question is why? Its' probably because a lot of writers seem to like sensationalism, rather than providing objective reports.

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 08:08 PM
I think the religious problems in Nigeria is largely due to people's ignorance of their own religions. Another factor may be
presence of mischievous people (both muslims and christians) that stir problems.

One cannot rule that out. Fanaticsm often has its' roots in ignorance. But the greatest deterrent to these uprisings in the north, would be to promptly fish out those responsible for causing the havoc and punish them severely, for the mayhem they have unleashed. Yet this never happens. Why?? Why do the authorities often turn a blind eye to these acts?

I was suprised when some arrests were made in the last Kano riot. Let's hope it will continue until all the offenders are brought to book.
donan (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #50 on: May 02, 2007, 09:12 PM »

Guys this topic is quite controversial. It will be nice if we stop discussing it.
IG
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #51 on: May 02, 2007, 09:16 PM »

@laudate, talking about the reprisal thing. I think many people in the north will tell you what I said.
I think the first riot that occured since the return of democracy was in Ogbomosho, that instigated a riot
in Kano and the trend continues.
But Hey, you have the right to your views.

I quite agree with you that many important things go unreported, sometimes I suspect the objectivity of
our journalists.

Talking about arrests, there were also arrests in the riot that occured in Maiduguri and as you said in Kano.
There were arrests in almost all the riots but the truth is that they are unreported.
In Maiduguri I heard there were even compensations that run into billions of Naira.

I think why police investigations don't give any results is because the investigations points towards some
"untouchables". Mostly politicians. Remember the Chris Uba/Chris Ngige saga ? .

it's a problem with Nigeria and not with the South or North in isolation.

I'll tell you what. Eliminate poverty and Illiteracy and see wether this riots will occur again.
It all boils down to government's failures.
Quote from: donan on May 02, 2007, 09:12 PM
Guys this topic is quite controversial. It will be nice if we stop discussing it.
I hope to make this my last post on this topic. I was atrying to clear some misunderstandings for the sake of other
readers, that's why I participated.
GNature (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #52 on: May 02, 2007, 09:22 PM »

Quote from: donan on May 02, 2007, 09:12 PM
Guys this topic is quite controversial. It will be nice if we stop discussing it.

Stop for where ?  I am enjoying the dialog. Abeg let it be.
ziddy (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #53 on: May 02, 2007, 09:29 PM »

over the last 20th century islam has morphed into an exceedingly ugly and violent religion.

one would however hope its just a developmental phase in the life of this religion, after all christianity too has had its trying moments during the inquisition in europe and in the dark ages when it was used as an instrument of political/socioeconomic repression by the Popes and the various monarchies of that continent.
more than half the armed unrest and unwarranted bloodletting in today's world have their roots entrenched in islam

The truth is bitter but its still the truth,and truth is an absolute, no grey areas.But the question i would want us all to ponder is this

If the Truth is such an absolute quantity and there can't conceivably be any such thing as a half-truth---a lie remains a lie, however gaily the liar attempts to embellish it-- Should we then realistically, continue expecting any good thing to come out of a doctrine so obviously founded on lies and falsehood?

                                                       The Satanic Verses

When Muhammad and his community came under severe persecution, eighty-three of his followers who had no protection emigrated from Mecca to Ethiopia, taking refuge in the ancient Christian country, Abyssinia.1 Under increasing boycotts and pressure, Muhammad went through a time of weakness and compromised with the Meccan pagans by acknowledging the existence of three pagan goddesses alongside Allah: Lat, Uzza, and Manat.2 The Arabian goddesses are mentioned in Sura an-Najm (Star) 53:19-22.
The statement that Allah was involved with female goddesses while Muhammad and his people were left with men, was cynically discussed by author Salman Rushdie.3 He made the impure account even more obscene. His book was regarded as utterly blasphemous by all Muslims.
When the inhabitants of Mecca heard Muhammad's confess the importance of the ancient goddesses inside the Ka'aba, they immediately revoked their ban on him. Those who had immigrated to Abyssinia (Ethiopia) started to return home after hearing  Muhammad's confession and his acceptance in Mecca. But when they arrived, they were shocked to hear that Muhammad had retracted his confession and admitted that he had fallen prey to the whispering of Satan.

In Sura Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53, Muhammad confessed his mistake, alleging that all prophets were tempted by Satan who inspire them with demonic verses, as if they were actually revealed by God. But later on Allah abrogated those Satanic Verses with new revelations and instructs his prophets with new verses. According to Islam, Allah permits such demonic inspiration to test weak believers and to cut off those with hardened hearts.

   Never did We send a messenger or a prophet before thee, but, when he framed a desire, Satan threw some (vanity) into his desire: but Allah will cancel anything (vain) that Satan throws in, and Allah will confirm (and establish) His Signs: for Allah is full of Knowledge and Wisdom:
   That He may make the suggestions thrown in by Satan, but a trial for those in whose hearts is a disease and who are hardened of heart: verily the wrong-doers are in a schism far (from the Truth): Hajj (Pilgrimage) 22:52-53. Yusuf 'Ali's translation
The true, vital issue about the Satanic verses is this. If Muhammad were unable to distinguish Satan's voice from God's voice, then could there be verses in the Qur'an that Muhammad assumed were from God but were really from Satan? Maybe much of the Qur'an is Satanic in origin, in spite of Muhammad's conviction that it was entirely from Allah.



Over now to the fervent Moslems in the house Cool
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #54 on: May 02, 2007, 10:39 PM »

Quote from: IG on May 02, 2007, 08:48 PM
@Bayosisi, it's like you are completely ignorant of Islam.
Taquiya is a shiite teaching, you don't find it in the qur'an or hadith.

Talking about 9/11 I think you are either living in an American cave since 2001 or you have been
brainwashed by the American media.

All independent investigations into the 9/11 attacks points back to the American government.
Sorry I was having a very high assumption of your knowledge of current affairs Grin Grin

I shouldn't have stressed myself so much trying to discuss with you at the same level

Learn to learn on your own but I think the following will help
http://www.911hoax.com/
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/911_a_hoax.htm
http://www.bcrevolution.ca/911_photos_prove_hoax.htm
http://www.vialls.com/homerun/homerun.html

You see what I told you about you needing help ?
Now am trying to help "unwash" your brain Grin Grin


For a man who claims to be knowledgeable,you are indeed a sorry excuse for a collision between a sperm and an ovum.

You want me and others to believe your stupid Islamic propaganda that somehow bush got together a bunch of Islamic terrorists sent them on a suicide mission to blow up buildings and 3,000 people in other to blame it on Muslims.

Wake up my friend,I am beginning to think that liquid in your mug is neither tea nor fura de nunu.
Get off it,the effects are not pretty from the little I see. Grin

For a man who may somehow find his mother's sister's daughters worthy to conceive his children,go figure!!
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #55 on: May 02, 2007, 11:18 PM »

and the first world trade center bombing by Khaled Yousef and sheikh Muhammad were all hoaxes,including the London 7/7,panam,the beslan slayings,the millions of Nigerians,philipinos,Indians,Indonesians,sudanese sacrificed under the knife while allahu akhbar was chanted were all hoaxes and set ups.


Somehow America is out to get Muslims and seems to use muslims to blow things and themselves up,cause the Muslim world to rejoice in these blow ups all in a bid to attack Muslims.
I have a piece of cheese that cures malignancies and I billion dollars to transfer from an offshore account ,all I need is $4,500 for administrative fees   
Grin Grin
Danmasani (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #56 on: May 03, 2007, 12:17 AM »

This forum here is filled up with half-truths, bigotry and sensaltionalism of the highest repute. It is repugnant to suggest as Babayoisi and Davidylan did that Muhammed or Islam permits carnal knowledge with a child. I think that it the highest stage of "religious intolerantic delirium" one can attain. No wonder people are killed or riots burst in the North when "free speech" like this is made. Remember Glenn Beck recently on CNN asking America's first muslim congressman to "prove to the nation that you are not against us" or the recent outburst of a Kentucky Congressman saying 'Satan is behind illegal immigration in the US". Compare the issue of Collateral damage by the US army to "terrosrist activities" of "insurgents" or "fundamental Islam" against the US and Israel. Except a world ruled by double standards and selfish attitudes finds normalcy, we'll always have low people like Babayosi punching buttons on nothing she knows about.
Been a Northern,non-hausa christian, i have seen the bulk of so called 'religious riots' and all i can say is simply that selfless idiots in the same calibre of Glenn Beck and all those sick in the head employ  poverty and poor uneducated people( almajiri's ) to fight their wars. And just like how Laudate said, rumor mongering excerbate such riots. A classic example of such rumor mongers would be Babayosi as you stop at nothing to explode your shortsigthedness and stupidity in this forum. Asking about Islam, Northern Nigeria and marrying cousins, Have you heard of Mormonism, a christian sect before? Is it not the same category? It's high time we shed ourselves of reilgious and tribalistic leanings. What defines Nigeria today is Poverty, poor economy, low living standards, lack of basic amenities and living essential among others. Questions about whether Northerners marry their cousins should not be your business!
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #57 on: May 03, 2007, 12:19 AM »

got that off your chest.
welcome to the forum!
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #58 on: May 03, 2007, 12:33 AM »

@ nossycheek under all this smoke without fire,your answer was hidden. and I quote.

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They marry there cousins because it's allowed and is not classified as incest.
Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) Never Married His Cousin.

Incest is not an existent word in Islam I may add.
Do you have other question?
My advice,just because Muhammad says you can doesn't mean you should.

If you did everything he said,there'll be no infidels left with a head on their shoulders.

Having a mentally underdeveloped child is not pretty.

davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #59 on: May 03, 2007, 01:03 AM »

Quote from: Danmasani on May 03, 2007, 12:17 AM
This forum here is filled up with half-truths, bigotry and sensaltionalism of the highest repute. It is repugnant to suggest as Babayoisi and Davidylan did that Muhammed or Islam permits carnal knowledge with a child. I think that it the highest stage of "religious intolerantic delirium" one can attain. No wonder people are killed or riots burst in the North when "free speech" like this is made. Remember Glenn Beck recently on CNN asking America's first muslim congressman to "prove to the nation that you are not against us" or the recent outburst of a Kentucky Congressman saying 'Satan is behind illegal immigration in the US". Compare the issue of Collateral damage by the US army to "terrosrist activities" of "insurgents" or "fundamental Islam" against the US and Israel. Except a world ruled by double standards and selfish attitudes finds normalcy, we'll always have low people like Babayosi punching buttons on nothing she knows about.
Been a Northern,non-hausa christian, i have seen the bulk of so called 'religious riots' and all i can say is simply that selfless idiots in the same calibre of Glenn Beck and all those sick in the head employ  poverty and poor uneducated people( almajiri's ) to fight their wars. And just like how Laudate said, rumor mongering excerbate such riots. A classic example of such rumor mongers would be Babayosi as you stop at nothing to explode your shortsigthedness and stupidity in this forum. Asking about Islam, Northern Nigeria and marrying cousins, Have you heard of Mormonism, a christian sect before? Is it not the same category? It's high time we shed ourselves of reilgious and tribalistic leanings. What defines Nigeria today is Poverty, poor economy, low living standards, lack of basic amenities and living essential among others. Questions about whether Northerners marry their cousins should not be your business!

In all this unecessary tirade you have said nothing that warrants a proper discourse. I had been anxiously expecting one other muslim appologist to comment on Glenn Beck. Sorry you don't like him, unlike all other American pretender he prefers to speak the truth about islam and its present danger to world peace!

So "collateral damage" by the US and Isreal is a good reason to sweep terrorist activities under the carpet? You wait until the taleban in kano start burning up Nigeria. You can then blame the US!.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #60 on: May 03, 2007, 01:05 AM »

and to think that post was from from a northern non Hausa Christian.
He must have seen real peace.
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #61 on: May 03, 2007, 01:07 AM »

I love Glenn Beck.
I'm sure some may be sharpening their cutlasses for his head.

he is free to speak the truth without coloring it and that it his right.
He's neither in Saudi nor gwagwalada
Kazaure
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #62 on: May 03, 2007, 02:49 AM »

You really really need a lyfe BABYOSISI.

If you grew up being taught to hate your brethren just up north how do we stand a chance in Africa to begin to talk about the real issues like AIDS poverty and education. The kind of hateful things you say. How much contact with northerners have you had? I was grown up in the north as a muslim and I am proud of IT! I was never taught  hate. My father died and some of the people that were first there with northern brothers was a yoruba man a xtian and a itsekiri man xtian also. I regard all nigerians as brethren thats what I was taught.

You seem to be blinded by your hate. If you were white in the US during the slavery period you would probably say "niggers are savage and they need to be taught in our ways".
I have grown up a muslim all my lyfe and never have i ever heard such calumny, sex with infants PLEASE where the hell do u get this stuff from. There is freedom of speech but along with that comes responsibility for our words. Don Imus was given the shaft by the company i work for NBC Universal because he called women of african american descent "nappy headed hoes" in AMERICA, where freedom of speech is one of the cardinal amendments. He was judged by the court of public opinion. Saying things comes with a price. You wonder why people get attacked by other hateful people,when u listen to some of the things conjured up by minds filled with hateful calumny like your own.

YES WE DO MARRY COUSINS AND SO WHAT!  You are just as likely to get a deformed progeny by marrying a non cousin as a cousin.

Do you think your Hausa brethren have no internet to reply your baseless insults. Please check yourself. When places are moving towards union as the EU and greater understanding we need to get to a level where we can see good in our neighbours so we can form a bond to handle African problems. WHY DO You HATE SO MUCH. I love africa and all african culture. I have close friendships with people of non hausa origin. You've been warned. Your statements are what u shall be judged by.You want to plant the seed of hate you shall have poisen maize as your feed.
festacson (m)
Re: Why Do Northern Muslims Marry 1st Cousins?
« #63 on: May 03, 2007, 02:57 AM »

Sometimes we Nigerians take religious extremism too far and may I say mostly in the northern part of the country. If someone in denmark draws a CARTOON people will start burning homes and killing non muslims; If they say mrs world will be done in Nigeria some people will try to start killing everybody datz non muslim; If u doubt mohammed they will start killing everybody, sudan is being marginalized by arabs in the disguise of religion and i bet that black muslims do more of d killings to their fellow blacks, etc. These same African muslims especially Nigerian northerners are not considered an equal in the middle east and some parts of Africa in the mixed mosque they attend. Miss world would have brought in tourism to Nigeria but some people are doing this muslim thing as if muhammed is currently living in Nigeria. For d christian side we have diversity of churches and don't mind if there's a lot of mosque around our churches as long as there's respect and fear of God. Am a God fearing individual and don't justify people in marrying their cousins but i guess it is what it is eventhough i wouldn't do it.
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