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br222
Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« on: April 15, 2007, 02:48 AM »

Does anyone know why they refer to Afrocarribeans as "blacks"? The more I think about it the more I resent it. How does anyone explain to a 4 year old, for example, who is learning about colors, why he may be refered to as "black", when he says his skin colour is brown, yet we seem to accept the term "blacks" and even use it!

I would like to suggest we stop this colour reference and only accept the terms that refer to where we originate from!

Wonder what others think?, 
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #1 on: April 15, 2007, 02:57 AM »

well dear, i get your point. I've wondered about that also

but you see, the honest truth is that it goes both ways. We refer to the europeans and english and americans as "whites" regardles of the fact that some/most of them are yello, red, blue and all what not.

i'm not sure that term will go away ina long run, just like "nigger", we just have to live with it and accept it. When you put a deep and negative meaning to it, it will seem evil but the fact is that some of them don't have anything bad in mind when they say it, its just a term in use.

A child growing up would be thought that some things are just the way they are, short and simple.

Lots of kids have grown up, you and i for two with the word, and look how fine we are. Those growing will still end up being fine with it.

Even though atimes i claim to resent it, i still use the word myself so. .  Wink
naija_diva (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #2 on: April 17, 2007, 10:05 PM »

i've often thought about questions like that. Black americans don't' like to be called african americans, but africans in america don't like to be called african american either, rather,  they'll like to be called africans or sometimes black, whether they are born here or in africa. i think race wise, people know they are black, but nationality wise, they are confused. as for me, if anyone ask me what i am. i just give them the full story, [my parents are nigerians, born and raised there, and i was born here in america to nigerian parents], then its there job to conclude what i am.

sometimes i get confused myself because if people ask me what i am, i say i'm nigerian. then they'll ask, when did i come to this country, then i'll say i was born here. then they'll be like, well you're american then, but i'm not. or sometimes if i say i'm from america(because i was born here) they'll be like well your not because your parent's are not from here so your african. but who cares. if anyone ask, i just say i'm from africa(even though i was born here). and that's that.
omogenaija (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #3 on: April 17, 2007, 11:34 PM »

idk really
this is a hard question ,  it depends on the individual ,  some people may say i'm not black , black is a color not a race etc.
as for me being called black is what i'm used to and people have been used to for hundreds of years and  i'm to young and lost to start changing or challenging the name,
i see it like y do we call our moms mother , mom , mama instead of something else
y is 1 , 1 and 1 isnt 2 ?

do i make sense ,  i'm kind of confused now myself
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #4 on: April 17, 2007, 11:43 PM »

@ omogenaija

yes dear, you make sense. I was saying the same above and that's the truth Wink

there are things you just can't wake up one day and change, this is one of them!
omogenaija (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #5 on: April 17, 2007, 11:46 PM »

YES !!!!!!!  Grin

i was afraid that nobody would understand and ur a somebody
br222
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #6 on: April 20, 2007, 02:02 AM »

Your views are cool, I must say though because that's the way things are does not make it right. Being a pioneer and a change agent has it's advantage, also, we do not have to be "black and proud", rather be "me and proud", 

Amongst themselves, Caucacians do not refer to themselves as whites over here in England,  They are either British, Scottish etc, and that's what I'm saying - black is not really our identity because there is nothing black about us, well apart from our hair.

Flashing this topic around over here with friends, it seems the term was a label given to "us" when the Foreigners came to our lands,  For them to exercise caution, they had to qualify the "things" they were going to steal as blacks to signify the burdensome nature of Africans, 

Another point is that it appears that the connotation "black" comes with a baggage no matter how we want to dress it. It's like red means danger or stop, white means peace or unblemished, black means,  when suddenly the light goes in Niger, or at night there is an element of uncertainty or fear, so hope you dig that if only we had the will, we should really be putting a stop to this, so that generations to come will see themselves without colour or at least have colour that trully describes them e.g. brown and when I think of brown there are no attached misconceptions, it's just the rich colour of my skin

All the same Wink
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #7 on: April 20, 2007, 02:13 AM »

@ dear br222

well i get your point, but you have to believe us when we say it will take another life-time for that kind of a change to happen ooh

look at the word "nigger", how many generations have tries to wipe it away, some have been killed, punished and all what not but still

some now to use it in a friendly manner, but that hasn't made it go away, neither has it wiped away "what it really means", the thing about life that we don't understand is that atimes, it helps just knowing wh you are, the rest should be history

i remember having the discussion or i might even say arguement with a cuban friend, she made a comment using "blacks" and we got mad, we were like why couldn't you say dark or brown or something

and she was like "you two should get a grip, its not like i'm a white-cuban, i'm black too, so why getting offended?". We argued and argued but at the end of the day, it changed absolutely nothing Wink
br222
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #8 on: April 20, 2007, 02:16 AM »

I see your point dear and in the big scheme of things there are certainly bigger fishes to fry! chao Wink
chiegemba (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #9 on: April 20, 2007, 02:17 AM »

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but you see, the honest truth is that it goes both ways. We refer to the Europeans and English and Americans as "whites" regardless of the fact that some/most of them are yellow, red, blue and all what not.
Grin Grin Grin Grin

I think u shouldnt even start troublin your head with that. because its as commonly used like when one is differentiating a male from a female like-wise a boy from a girl.


@cute-ass; how r u? did u get me a position yet?
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #10 on: April 20, 2007, 02:18 AM »

@ chiegemba darl

lets meet @ the thread in question, then we can take it from there Wink

between i'm fine ooh, just dey like say a no dey Cheesy
chiegemba (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #11 on: April 20, 2007, 02:20 AM »

ok now  Smiley no wahala. Would meet u there! Wink
oyinboaja
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #12 on: April 20, 2007, 11:04 AM »

Has any of you checked the meaning of BLACK in any dictionary?

I saw this: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/black
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #13 on: April 20, 2007, 04:04 PM »

@ oyinboaja

the author of that site better take his time ooh Angry Angry Grin

well you are what you make yourself out to be, prove them wrong. Short and simple Wink

oyinboaja
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #14 on: April 20, 2007, 04:08 PM »

Another one,

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/results.asp?searchword=black

it still has negative conotations
oyinboaja
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #15 on: April 20, 2007, 04:10 PM »

Even this

http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/black

all na negative meanings
blue-sky (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #16 on: April 20, 2007, 04:30 PM »

@br222

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Caucacians do not refer to themselves as whites over here in England
not sure what part of england ur from, but, yes they do call themselves white. Ask a white person to describe another white person, they would say they are white.

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They are either British, Scottish
have you never heard of the term black british? If you were born in england/wales etc, your british. What do you fill in when you have to put ur ethnicity in a form? theres white british, white other, black british, african, caribean,

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black is not really our identity because there is nothing black about us
I don't understand why people make a fuss about being called black. I'm black and proud. Its an easier way to term someones ethnicity. If i saw a causcassion person on the street, I'm not going to try and guess whether their english/scotish/french etc, I'm going to describe them as white. If i saw a afrocaribbean person on the street, I'm not going to try guess if theyre jamaican/african/african-american, I'm going to call them black.

Also, theres some pople who are as black as night! and some people who are brown. Should we call the lighter skinned brown, and the darker skined, dark brown or maybe even black? why change all this now? what problem is it causing?

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black means,  when suddenly the light goes in Niger, or at night there is an element of uncertainty or fear, so hope you dig that if only we had the will
I ilike to wear black clothes, does that mean people should fear me?

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should really be putting a stop to this, so that generations to come will see themselves without colour or at least have colour that trully describes them
Hmm, i would like people to see themselves without a colour too. But this i think will never happen. I like coming to this website. It reminds me of nigeria. Thats like, when i see another black person, i instantly draw towards them, i feel we have a lot of things in common. don't get me wrong i have white friends, but where all human. We like things which reminds us familiarity, and that makes us feel safe.
No matter how much you want people to no think about colour of your skin, we are all different, and i like the fact people have different cultures and skin colours.

Whether your brown/ white/ yellow/ pink, who cares. because i don't care that I'm callled black. Chinese are called Yellow. South Asians are called brown, Caucasians are called White.
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #17 on: April 21, 2007, 02:20 AM »

@ blue-sky

you nailed it right there, you didn't even miss an inch Wink

if they started calling us "brown" tomorrow, will that change who we are?, or what they think of us?
omogenaija (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #18 on: April 21, 2007, 02:38 AM »

blue-sky , and cuteass i love  u  Kiss
we think alike
cute-ass (f)
Re: Why Do We Accept Being Called "blacks"? Rather Than Africans Etcs
« #19 on: April 21, 2007, 02:41 AM »

Quote from: omogenaija on April 21, 2007, 02:38 AM
blue-sky , and cuteass i love  u  Kiss
we think alike

love you too dear Kiss
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