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TMBghostX (m)
Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« on: April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM »

Why do white people always tell us black people to forget about the past and move on? Yet in the USA , many white people talk shit about Jews not saying sorry for killing Jesse's!

It's really stupid and ironic for them to say such things.

If we forgot the things white people done to us throughout history , then we would not know who we are and where we came from and white people will still lie about us being inferior.

Here are some reasons why i believe we should never forget the things they tell us to forget.

1: I really don't have alot of Info about the college that did this kind of study but i know they did this( and if you know the name of the college plz tell me Grin). One of the University in the US did a study on kids. the study was about  seeing if kids prefer white dolls or black dolls. Well after they did this so called "study" they told the media that kids prefer white dolls over black dolls. Now i don't have to tell you how stupid this was because its clearly obvious that this "study" only has the purpose to make black people feel bad  and making white people feel good about themselves.
White people are always going to do some kind of shit like this , its senseless and dumb and they will never stop these propaganda stuff.

2:Now we all know that white people have been going around saying that black people did not create Egypt. Saying that we were to primitive to make such a great empire.White people will never acacknowledge the contributions we made to the world , and they will continue to make us look like shit. Besides, how did they create Egypt anyway? They can't create Melanin so they can't survive in the sun.

3: Where did HIV/AIDS come from? they say it came from green monkeys in Africa;however, people have been saying that white people created this "HIV/AIDS" and placed it in Africa ,If this is true, then we really need to do sosomething about this now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4:Crack, Where did it come from? back then black people never had boats to get the crack, so how did  crack just came right in to the black community? my answer white people

You see guys , white people need to understand that things that happend in the past can Influence action and effects in the future.

Another thing white people need to understand is that this world we live in ( the laws of nature ) is about cause and effects, and you just can't tell people to forget something that happend that was truly senseless. We must be on our feet for if we don't they will brainwash us in to lbelieving that we are inferior to them and that they are superior.

Thats why we should never forget,

PS,

Can you guys tell me if my grammer is good or not? I got a writing test coming up.
mazaje (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #1 on: April 24, 2007, 11:10 AM »

your grammer has been knocked out of the game baby
TMBghostX (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #2 on: April 24, 2007, 08:33 PM »

Come on its not that bad Grin, is it?
babyosisi (f)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #3 on: April 25, 2007, 12:40 AM »

Sure white people have done a lot to the black race but it's time we moved on.
Time waits for no one.

Jews went through Holocaust and emerged a formidable force.
We must also shed that victims mentality and stand up and be counted.
The lizard says when he jumps down from a height and nobody cheers him on,he'll nod his own head to acknowledge his afforts.

Blacks are not an inferior race as white folks indoctrinated our forefathers to believe.
They are not a step behind others in intelligence,just a tard above monkeys as the old literatures portrayed.

We are made with equal intelligence and we ought to exercise it.
Many have proven that blacks can do anything.
It all starts with a change of orientation and a determination and drive to be the best that you can be.
I don't see myself as a mediocre.
I sure pray that all black people would get the same attitude.
davidylan (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #4 on: April 25, 2007, 01:34 AM »

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM
If we forgot the things white people done to us throughout history , then we would not know who we are and where we came from and white people will still lie about us being inferior.

We've been "remembering" what white people did to us at some point in our history since our great grandfathers were born, it did not prevent us from rigging our presidential elections. Perhaps that is the fault of the white people too.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM
1: I really don't have alot of Info about the college that did this kind of study but i know they did this( and if you know the name of the college plz tell me Grin). One of the University in the US did a study on kids. the study was about  seeing if kids prefer white dolls or black dolls. Well after they did this so called "study" they told the media that kids prefer white dolls over black dolls. Now i don't have to tell you how stupid this was because its clearly obvious that this "study" only has the purpose to make black people feel bad  and making white people feel good about themselves.
White people are always going to do some kind of shit like this , its senseless and dumb and they will never stop these propaganda stuff.

White people invented barbie dolls, it makes sense that they would make dolls that closely resembles themselves. If black people want black dolls let them go and invent them rather than sitting down to blame!

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM
2 :Now we all know that white people have been going around saying that black people did not create Egypt. Saying that we were to primitive to make such a great empire.White people will never acacknowledge the contributions we made to the world , and they will continue to make us look like shit. Besides, how did they create Egypt anyway? They can't create Melanin so they can't survive in the sun.

While white people were busy excavating Egypt and discovering its past history, black people were busy killing themselves in civil wars. Even the present people of Egypt do not subscribe to black people being a part of the history of ancient Egypt. It is easy to claim the history of Egypt sitting on our rocking chairs at home while white people are busy making discoveries.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM
3: Where did HIV/AIDS come from? they say it came from green monkeys in Africa;however, people have been saying that white people created this "HIV/AIDS" and placed it in Africa ,If this is true, then we really need to do sosomething about this now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What contribution have black scientists made towards 1. understanding the pathogenesis of HIV and 2. finding a cure? Beyond making wild speculations on the origin of HIV are we not dependent on this same white people to find us a cure?
If indeed it is true that white people created HIV and planted it in Africa what is the "something that we need to do about it" when we are dependent on this same white people for the technology and funds to fight the disease?

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM
4:Crack, Where did it come from? back then black people never had boats to get the crack, so how did  crack just came right in to the black community? my answer white people

white people may have brought crack to us but they did not force it down our throats.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 23, 2007, 11:43 PM
Another thing white people need to understand is that this world we live in ( the laws of nature ) is about cause and effects, and you just can't tell people to forget something that happend that was truly senseless. We must be on our feet for if we don't they will brainwash us in to lbelieving that we are inferior to them and that they are superior.

They don't need to brainwash us. We have been so brain washed by our own attitudes that those among us who aspire to be better than the low standards we have set for ourselves are accused of "acting white"!
TMBghostX (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #5 on: April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM »

These are quotes from davidylan

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We've been "remembering" what white people did to us at some point in our history since our great grandfathers were born, it did not prevent us from rigging our presidential elections. Perhaps that is the fault of the white people too.

And When did we ever rig  a presidential election? This is truly some bullshit your stating.

We black people never had the power to rig a presidential elections, but  white people have that power. White people have been throwing our vote in the trash since we had the right to vote.


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White people invented barbie dolls, it makes sense that they would make dolls . If black people want black dolls let them go and invent them rather than sitting down to blame!

Thats not the point I was making. I was saying that the study they did only had the purpose of making one group feel bad and another group feel good about themselves.

Yes white people made dolls that closely resembles themselves, and there are black dolls out there too, But thats really not the point here. In the USA people always viewed us black people as shit , whereas white people are viewed like gods or something. black people are lead to believe these things, and you can't say that white people never viewed us as there equal and such. when kids hear things like white people are better, or that black people never made any contribution to the world which i may say is bullshit because white people will never acknowledge the facts about themselves and ourselves.

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While white people were busy excavating Egypt and discovering its past history, black people were busy killing themselves in civil wars. Even the present people of Egypt do not subscribe to black people being a part of the history of ancient Egypt. It is easy to claim the history of Egypt sitting on our rocking chairs at home while white people are busy making discoveri

LMAO so what are you saying that only black people had civil wars? While Black people were building up there empires in peace , white people where in caves beating and killing each other and even eating there own people Shocked. People all over the world had civil wars so what you just stated is pointless  because all kinds of conflicts started because of some kind of problem they had in there community that they could not agree on. Even asians from China had civil wars.

Yes you are right , its easy to clam the history of egypt, but your looking at it the wrong way my ignorant friend. White people have only been around for a short time , Egypt was created around 2700 BC  all the way to 300 BC  when the greeks and roman took over.

White people have been saying all kinds of shit that logically did not add up ( if you use common sense , logic and reasoning). Egypt is located in a very hot environment where the equator is located. You can't say that white people build egypt because there hair , lips, and skin are not ideal in that kind of environment.

White people had said that egypt was build by white people, then they said that people from egypt had black skin with white people features, and then they said that the arabs created egypt. Its obvious that they are lying and covering up the facts.

Black people have Melanin and alot of it. Melanin is the dark pigmentation of the skin that helps protect from the sun's UV rays. Melanin is essential for life , hell even the brain and organs have melanin. Melanin is essential because this dark pigment helps turn the sun's UV rays into vitamin D. Vitamin D is needed to make babys and help keep your bones strong. This is why white people have a low birth rate and there bone structure is weak.
After all white people can't produce a gene they don't have because there pineal glands are calcifed ( i think i spelled that right), and the arabs are half breeds so they only have 2 genes that say create alot of melanin and the other 2 gene say don't create melanin.



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What contribution have black scientists made towards 1. understanding the pathogenesis of HIV and 2. finding a cure? Beyond making wild speculations on the origin of HIV are we not dependent on this same white people to find us a cure?
If indeed it is true that white people created HIV and planted it in Africa what is the "something that we need to do about it" when we are dependent on this same white people for the technology and funds to fight the disease?

Well they should find a cure because no body asked them to place such shit in africa in the first place and now its killing everybody from all races . All because white people want to kill us.

Well whatever, white people better stop with all these sins they create or there future will be very bad.

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white people may have brought crack to us but they did not force it down our throats.
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Do you have facts about that?

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they don't need to brainwash us. We have been so brain washed by our own attitudes that those among us who aspire to be better than the low standards we have set for ourselves are accused of "acting white"!

The only way this problem would be solved is if black people know the truth about there past and why they are in the situation they are in right know.We black people didn't just naturally become this over night.We must educate our people about these problems we're having. after all,White people played a major roll in doing this to us, and if we expose the truth about these evils , we will look at ourselves in a diffrent way.

Something tells me your white!!!?!?!?
English1 (f)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #6 on: April 27, 2007, 01:18 PM »

TMB, are you sista's brother?  Grin
oyinboaja
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #7 on: April 27, 2007, 02:02 PM »

TMB is your brother. He is a white man trying to rile us up
English1 (f)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #8 on: April 30, 2007, 09:52 AM »

He's certainly a troll anyway  Grin
nferyn (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #9 on: April 30, 2007, 10:58 AM »

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
We black people never had the power to rig a presidential elections, but  white people have that power. White people have been throwing our vote in the trash since we had the right to vote.
I guess you're another African American trying to teach all these Nigerians true history, aren't you? A bit of humility would go a long way

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
Thats not the point I was making. I was saying that the study they did only had the purpose of making one group feel bad and another group feel good about themselves.
There was certainly a need to justify slavery and the colonial subservience of blacks among whites. The main purpose was rather to ensure that the majority of whites would retain the ability too look at themselves in the mirror and live with a clear conscience. After all, those black weren't really like them, were they? The impact on the psychology of the blacks (mainly in the US), was just an added bonus.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
Yes white people made dolls that closely resembles themselves, and there are black dolls out there too, But thats really not the point here. In the USA people always viewed us black people as shit , whereas white people are viewed like gods or something. black people are lead to believe these things, and you can't say that white people never viewed us as there equal and such. when kids hear things like white people are better, or that black people never made any contribution to the world which i may say is bullshit because white people will never acknowledge the facts about themselves and ourselves.
Which facts exactly? When many people work for a justified rectification of world history where the contributions of Africa are put in the right perspective, e.g. the African, predominantly black nature of ancient Egyptian culture, you've got people like those melanin theorist that go way overboard and throw science out of the window. What's the most stunning thing about those Afrocentrists is that they make up a mythological ancient Africa, that doesn't take into account the real accomplishments of African societies. Look for example at the disproportionate attention that is given to Nzinga or ancient Kemet, but the total neglect of the democratic modes of governance in Igbo land. You can easily see that they want to beat whitey at their own game. Radical Afrocentrism is a cultural mode of expression that can be squarely categorised in European thought. It is platonic essentialism brought to it's idiotic culmination.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
LMAO so what are you saying that only black people had civil wars? While Black people were building up there empires in peace ,
There are no empires that are built on peace. You're just talking out of your rear end.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
white people where in caves beating and killing each other and even eating there own people Shocked.
Yeah right, fight one historical distortion with another one, dimwit. I could of course talk about the way the Roman Empire destroyed ancient Gaul and it's consequences for the modes of Governance in Europe, but I gues that would be a lost effort.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
People all over the world had civil wars so what you just stated is pointless  because all kinds of conflicts started because of some kind of problem they had in there community that they could not agree on. Even asians from China had civil wars.
Your point being? I would rather have made the point that most civil wars in Africa were and are a direct consequence of European interference in African affairs, from the trans atlantic slave trade to the carving up of the colonial pie.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
Yes you are right , its easy to clam the history of egypt, but your looking at it the wrong way my ignorant friend. White people have only been around for a short time , Egypt was created around 2700 BC  all the way to 300 BC  when the greeks and roman took over.
And you call davidylan ignorant? You've taken the art of irony to new heights.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
White people have been saying all kinds of shit that logically did not add up ( if you use common sense , logic and reasoning). Egypt is located in a very hot environment where the equator is located. You can't say that white people build egypt because there hair , lips, and skin are not ideal in that kind of environment.
Since when do modern egyptologists (you know, working scientists) deny the African nature of ancient Egypt? Apart from the modern upper class Egyptians (descendents from the Arab invaders) themselves of course.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
White people had said that egypt was build by white people, then they said that people from egypt had black skin with white people features, and then they said that the arabs created egypt. Its obvious that they are lying and covering up the facts.
Yes those Victorians that did the early research on ancient Egypt were a bunch of racists that couldn't or wouldn't accept that Egyptians were Africans. Care to tell us which modern Egyptologists still do that. By the way, the Egytians definitely didn't have phenotypical tropical African characteristics, but rather Nilo-Saharian, like current day Ethiopians.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
Black people have Melanin and alot of it. Melanin is the dark pigmentation of the skin that helps protect from the sun's UV rays. Melanin is essential for life , hell even the brain and organs have melanin. Melanin is essential because this dark pigment helps turn the sun's UV rays into vitamin D. Vitamin D is needed to make babys and help keep your bones strong. This is why white people have a low birth rate and there bone structure is weak.
How ignorant can you get.
1. Neuromelanin and melanin in the organs is different from the melanin that causes skin pigmentation. White people have as much neuromelanin as black people. Your point is mute
2. Strong pigmentation actually inhibits the synthesis of vitamin D from UV radiation. That's precisely why white people have less melanin, to enable that synthesis in areas with less exposure to sun light. You've got it all mixed up
3. Low birht rates among white people in Europe and the US is caused by improved socio-economic conditions. There is a direct correlation between higher birth rates and overall poverty. It has nothing to do with any inherent biological features of any groups (although nutrition and pollution also play a role in this)

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
After all white people can't produce a gene they don't have because there pineal glands are calcifed ( i think i spelled that right), and the arabs are half breeds so they only have 2 genes that say create alot of melanin and the other 2 gene say don't create melanin.
Now melanin production is controlled by 2 genes. Your ignorance knows no bounds.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
Well they should find a cure because no body asked them to place such shit in africa in the first place and now its killing everybody from all races . All because white people want to kill us.
The infamous seeding of HIV in Africa conspiracy theory. Yawn. And the government is covering everything up, isn't it. You'D better focus on the real behaviour of pharmaceutical companies in Africa, instead of chasing ghosts.

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
The only way this problem would be solved is if black people know the truth about there past and why they are in the situation they are in right know.We black people didn't just naturally become this over night.We must educate our people about these problems we're having. after all,White people played a major roll in doing this to us, and if we expose the truth about these evils , we will look at ourselves in a diffrent way.
And you think that bad history and pseudo science are a solution to that problem? Maybe you could expand your horizon and get your facts straight. If you're African American - which I think you are - you might want to study the history of the Black Panther party, look into the role of the prison-industrial complex or read some stuff by whitey Tim Wise instead of regurgitating blatant nonsense

Quote from: TMBghostX on April 25, 2007, 07:17 PM
Something tells me your white!!!?!?!?
<GRIN>Oh davidylan is white now? </GRIN> Let me give you an assist, contrary to davidylan, I am (white, that is) and even of a more nefarious kind, I am European, so you can easily dismiss me and my write-ups  Grin
Neish (f)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #10 on: April 30, 2007, 11:11 AM »

Never forget the past, never forget slavery and all the creul disgusting things that were done and are still done because of colour BUT WE GOT TO MOVE ON! we don not forget but we use it and move with it.

Godbless the black Race
GNature (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #11 on: April 30, 2007, 11:30 AM »

Subscribing
dudu-bobo
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #12 on: April 30, 2007, 12:11 PM »

if you forget your past, they get the chance to do it to you again maybe in another way or form
dudu-bobo
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #13 on: May 02, 2008, 02:25 PM »

If you forget the past, they can do the same to you again
Spermdrops (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #14 on: May 08, 2008, 01:16 AM »

Because they have forgotten theirs and moved on.  They are no longer slave owners so no need behaving like slaves. You are not in chains anymore so no need to act like you are.
EXPONENT (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #15 on: May 14, 2008, 01:27 AM »

Because they KNOW the fucked us over.

and they don't want us talking about it.

It tells how barbaric they were/are.

I've noticed that Continental Africans feels the same way as whites.  That we should forget our history and feel blessed that we are here, living out lives like 2nd class citizens.

Africans would love to come here and uncle tom for whitey.

little do they know, over time - they would get sicken by the bullshit.
lazy (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #16 on: May 14, 2008, 04:25 PM »

Quote from: EXPONENT on May 14, 2008, 01:27 AM
Because they KNOW the fucked us over.

and they don't want us talking about it.

It tells how barbaric they were/are.

I've noticed that Continental Africans feels the same way as whites.  That we should forget our history and feel blessed that we are here, living out lives like 2nd class citizens.

Africans would love to come here and uncle tom for whitey.

little do they know, over time - they would get sicken by the bullshit.

<shaking my head> How do you know all Continental Africans feel that way? You keep using such generalizations based on I guess what you have experienced.

I can tell you this. Go talk to some AA's and so many of them want to forget their past. They will tell you that they are Native American or some mess like that,  LOL!!! Cheesy
Ajebota (f)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #17 on: May 26, 2008, 02:16 PM »

we r not d 1st race or people 2 be enslaved or persecuted. d isrealis wer slaves in egypt for years!
dudu-bobo
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #18 on: July 15, 2008, 01:39 PM »

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7505305.stm

 British man is appealing against a conviction in Ghana for indecently assaulting a three-year-old girl.

Thomas Tichler, 57, a retired banker from Hertfordshire, was jailed for two years in February.

The charity Fair Trials International has disputed the medical evidence used to convict him and says the girl was too young to give evidence.

The appeal court, sitting in Accra, is reserving judgement on the case until later this year.

Medical evidence

The case stems from an invitation accepted last year by Tichler, who was in Ghana at the time volunteering for a charity.

He was invited to a local man's house, where he was left to play with the family's children.

When the family's three-year-old daughter went to the toilet, her mother found blood in the little girl's urine and her underwear.

Tichler was convicted of indecently assaulting the girl and causing her harm and sentenced to two years for each offence, to run concurrently.

His defence team says the blood could have been the result of innocent horseplay, as Tichler lifted the girl onto his shoulders.

It says the medical evidence presented by the prosecution could equally support its explanation of what happened.   
Defence lawyers argue the girl's testimony in court was an important factor in Tichler's conviction and are concerned that she may have been too young for her evidence to have been relied upon.

Joe Stone, a barrister at Doughty Street Chambers, has been advising the Tichler family on their appeal.

He said: "[Children] start speaking at two and being able to articulate with something as sensitive as this, there really is some concern as to whether the child understands what is being said."

Child's evidence

The Ghanaian legal system is based upon the English courts, which is a legacy of its colonial past.

When children give evidence in courts in England and Wales, the judge has to determine whether the child understands the questions put to them and whether the answers they give are comprehensible.

"That two-part competency test, which is standard and mandatory here didn't take place," Mr Stone said.

"I think the judge asked whether the child understood the importance of telling truth and lies but there was no further investigation into the child."

  My own view is that you've at least as much chance of a fair trial in Ghana as you would have in the UK

Craig Murray
Former UK diplomat
The London-based charity Fair Trials International has taken on Tichler's case.

The head of the legal team, Sabine Zanker, is worried about political interference.

She said: "This was hyped up by politicians, including the attorney general, who in Ghana is also the justice minister.

"When Tom was initially charged with a lesser offence, he went public and said it was very important to protect Ghanaian children from white paedophiles and he thought he should be charged with a much more serious offence."

'Fair hearing'

Craig Murray, a former diplomat who was deputy high commissioner to Ghana, says he does not know of a single incident involving a British national where there was reason to suspect they had not received a fair hearing.

"My own view is that you've at least as much chance of a fair trial in Ghana as you would have in the UK," he said.

Two of Mr Tichler's sons have been in Accra to see their father's appeal.

The eldest, James, insists his father is innocent.

"He's certainly never displayed any behaviour like what he's been accused of towards me or my brothers," he said.

"I don't think I'll accept that he's guilty unless he came and told me he was."

The attorney general of Ghana, Joe Ghartey, told the BBC that he could not comment directly on the case.

He said the country had a very independent judiciary and that any comments he made would not have made any difference to the outcome of the trial.

His team has been appealing for a longer prison sentence for Tichler, arguing that the circumstances of the case do not support the length of the sentence originally handed down by the judge.

huxley (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #19 on: July 15, 2008, 02:04 PM »

How would you rather behave?  Would you rather Africans sulk for the rest of humanity on the atrocities of the past?

between, do you think Africans were living in peace and harmony with all their ethnic neighbours before the arrival of Whites?  Should the Hausa and their neighbours carry on begrudging each other for the events of the past?
MandingoII (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #20 on: August 08, 2008, 03:52 PM »

More importantly, why are blacks more than willing to FORGET their past and move on?

Now that's dumb
Brash! (m)
Re: Why Do White People Tell Us To Forget Our Past And Move On?
« #21 on: August 08, 2008, 03:54 PM »

we don't really want to keep dwelling on the past do we?!

life is moving ahead, so we better do!
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