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debosky (m)
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dude stop being ridiculous, power plants we 'inherited'? maybe I should send you a copy of the report
first of all, power plants by their very nature have a lifespan of ~50 years at best, most of them are run for 30-35 years before being shut down permanently
the truth is, it is completely irrelevant whether 40-50 year old plants whose total was 327MW in '66, (about half that capacity even came after independence) are working or not - that total capacity is not even sufficient to run Abuja alone today, and represents only a mere 6-7% of the total generation capacity (~5000MW) we have on ground now. You obviously don't know what you're talking about when it comes to power generation.
granted power generation has gotten worse due to a myriad of factors - poor maintenance, vandalism and no investment in ~20 years before '99, generation is currently on the upswing - it reached a low in mid february with about 1,200MW, but has currently risen to 3,200MW now, ask people in Nigeria and they will tell you, those are the latest facts from Nigeria. The truth is Power generation IS IMPROVING, and will rapidly improve further before the end of the year with the new plants being built by the government and private entities.
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So seun you delete my post,
Here is it again chrisokw , or what ever your name is ,
We all know that 70 % of Nigeria are Yoruba, igbo, or hausa/fulani,
during obasanjo govt
President was Yoruba
vice president was North minority
Senate president was Igbo
And Speaker was hausa/fulani
During Yar Adua, How will it look like,
The word of God says if a man is not faithful in little thing, he can not be faithful in big thing, IF the north is not faithful in little how can they be trusted with big thing,
If agreement was reach and the north decieve the Yoruba that they would get the senate president, How can we trust them that if Yar Adua finish 8 years in govt., He would not hand over to another northerner, Look if the north decieve and manipulated the system for 40 years, How can we trust them that this is not another lie, The one way they can show the world this is not another of their game, is to install a yoruba as senate president. we all know how the election was won. If not for the same obasanjo that they now decieve, in the first place, no northerner would have won the PDP primary.
Look if you are using example, na out of fairness to the south. would it not be fair for the north to wait 40 years before they can become president. You see President obasanjo put his trust on the north, that they would keep their word, But with what they are trying to do with the position of senate president, It shows that they just lied and decieve obasanjo, I hear they even decieve the oldman that they would make his child senate president, Now that same people now turn around to make claim to the senate president.
The word of God say if someone is not faithful in little thing they would not be faithful in small thing, The north should remember how they won the election in the first place, before making the greatest mistake of their life, I hope it would cause the unity of Nigeria.
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Gnature,
Today I remember your words vividly, you said that in no time the Yorubas might become the new Igbos [ the marginalized ], apparently the yorubas are the greediest ,self centered and the most tribalistic Nigerians, of course with exception of Gnature, you are a very honest Yoruba man unlike others that pushes rhetorics, the south needs to unite at all cost, and to do that the Yoruba's needs to quit being sell outs { this is the first time am directing a statement at the Yorubas and I mean it }, I can't imagine the Yorubas complaining.
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@Debosky
You're delusional my friend, I was in Naija last summer, I can cvount the number of hours we got any electricity at all.
Countries are still using power plants built in the '50s, I do not know where your lifespan argument comes from. Most of our power generation plants are lying in waste, keep giving excuses! You admit you have problems, then you begin to solve it.
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The tribalistic cartel are hard at work!  |
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debosky (m)
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@ Donzman
name the countries using 50 year old power plants, any body who knows anything about power stations know that their average lifespan is 30-50 years, after that they are shut down/mothballed, some even younger than that are shut down because they don't meet new environmental legislation.
last summer was 10-12 months ago, power supply NOW (i.e latest figures) are what I am quoting, last summer in 1 location does not typify power supply all over the nation.
most of our power generation plants are not lying waste - you don't know what you're talking about - most of the power in Nigeria comes from 3 max 4 locations Kainji, Shiroro and Egbin. Sapele and Afam are undergoing expansion/repairs to make them functional again.
I never said there were no problems, but making completely uninformed statements like 'generation now is 1/2 what it was at independence' and 'power plants built in the 50's are being used' is pointless, those are falsehoods, fact is improvements have not been made as they should have, but to deny the progress being made is what is delusional.
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last summer was 10-12 months ago, power supply NOW (i.e latest figures) are what I am quoting, last summer in 1 location does not typify power supply all over the nation. Yeah power supply in Lagos should not matter, power supply in Kfanchan is what we should take into account since that is where most Nigerians depend on for income. You're brilliant In your intelligence, you also forgot that most of our energy comes from HEP which lasts anything from 50 - 100 years. We have ours not being able to operate at 50Z% capacity and you're here looking for little holes in Donzman's argument to jump on. There is a plant built in 1898 that still has some operational units, again Debosky your brilliance is unparalled! Keep up the good work, who knows youmight become Energy Minister proposing nuclear plants in Nigeria! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Margaret_Power_Station,_Tasmania Another plant that operated ffor well over 50 years, 1915-2006 in Australia! Here is another one in Australia operating since 1944: Govt opens $6m hydro-electric power plant upgrade South-east New South Wales is to become part of the State Government's big push to increase the use of renewable energy. A $6 million upgrade of the Brown Mountain hydro-electric power plant near Bemboka will be opened later today. State Energy Minister Joe Tripodi will switch on the multi-million dollar upgrade, accompanied by the Member for Monaro, Steve Whan. The refit will see an increased flow of renewable power added to the state grid with output increasing from four to five megawatts. The upgrade involves the replacement of ageing generators, as well as building a new switchyard and a new power control room. The Brown Mountain plant is one of the oldest hydro-electric plants in the state, having been in operation since 1944. http://www.abc.net.au/news/australia/nsw/summer/200612/s1811261.htm] Debosky, you're real brilliant! |
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debosky (m)
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once again you expose your ignorance - there were NO hydroelectric power installations in Nigeria pre-1966 No Kainji, No Shiroro, nothing
the only thing close to hydro was a run-of-river turbine in Jos generating 2MW for the Tin Mining Industry
who told you 'most of our energy' comes from hydro? that probably was what you got from your outdated geography textbooks that were made in the 70's
fact: major power stations in Nigeria (pre 1999) are
* Ijora thermal power station (60 MW) in Lagos: 1956
* Kainji hydropower station (760 MW) in Niger State: 1968
* Ogorode thermal power station (720 MW) at Sapele in Delta State: 1978
* Egbin thermal power station (1,320 MW) in Lagos: 1987
* Jebba hydropower station (600 MW) at Shiroro in Niger State: 1990
* Delta VI thermal power station (600 MW) at Ughelli in Delta State: 1991.
those are the power generating stations in Nigeria of present, Egbin Thermal alone produces as much power as the two 'most of our energy' hydro plants
they make up less than a third of current capacity taking into consideration the Omoku, AES and Kwale plants that have been recently built.
so your HEP premise is flawed and highly incorrect, as the stats above show, the only power plant of note before independence is Ijora and was coal powered, most of the rest were diesel powered generators for powering a few colonial estates. the average life span of coal fired/thermal stations (the overwhelming bulk of our capacity) IS 30-50 years and that was what I referred to.
Besides based on the seasonality and other factors surrounding HEP make it highly dependent on water levels, and other fluctuations, we depend mostly on thermal that is why if anything happens to Egbin (the largest plant in the nation) everything is affected.
in short - most power over 2/3rds doesn't come from hydro, so their longevity is not the prime issue here
to further butress the point, current generation is 3,200MW which is far more than what the HEPs would produce at full capacity so that is not the issue. where is your data claiming 'they aren't working at 50%' do you know current power shortages in Ghana and Kenya are being caused due to low water levels in their dams? even in Italy there are concerns now that there will be power shortage in the summer due to low snowfall causing low water levels in dams - my point is: hydro is not the solution for us right now.
you seem to love claiming figures like '1/2 capacity at independence' now 'less than 50%' but not one word of proof. your claims are hollow and baseless
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On the issue of power generation , I am an engineer too, Master , some of your date are wrong, with the power station, But I would agree, that Nigeria should stop investing in hydro station, It is a waste of money, Thermal power generate more energy than hydro, but less or raw material. we should not invest in hydro again, it is better to go therma, the mabilla plateau station is also a waste of money, not because it is located in the north, but wind station generate less power compare to the cost of thermal,
xtycod, You said I lied?? First of all was Yar Adua elected based on his merit?? The answer is NO, Yar Adua we all know was selected by President Obasanjo to run during the primary, If you doubt this, I have sources that I can trust, That President Olusegun Obasanjo personally ask all the southern candidate to step down for Yar Adua.
Look Yar Adua election is based on agreement and not on merit, Now after President Obasanjo was faithful on his own part , The north turn back to make a You turn.
xtycod it is not everything we can say over the internet,
You called me being selfish and tribalistic. That I claim I am a christian, So because I am a born again christian I should be a fool and allow others to cheat me?? Or do you think been a christian then I must be a fool???
Look I am a yoruba, I was born a Yoruba, I would die a Yoruba, I am proud of been a Yoruba. God made me a Yoruba man. I can not stop been a Yoruba man, I can drop my nigeria citizenship, but I it is impossible for me to drop been a Yoruba. Nigeria can change its name, But Yoruba can not. God made me a Yorubaman for life and I am a proud to be called a Yoruba man. Have you ever read or heard about Elijah in the bible, Do you think Elijah was a man who kept quiet . You see pastor in Nigeria or outside in Nigeria who are not speaking out again what is happen in Nigeria because of fear or they are looking for contract, Are not men of God, Any onlooker is either a coward or a traitor. I am none of this.
Get this, the word of God said that I must speak again evil in my society and against anyone that do them. It is only ungodly men of God who do not speak out. Look I know I am putting my life into danger, And I know that the north can arrange to kill me. My brother I have over come dead, And I am not scare of death, because the word of God assure me of where I am going, So if Yar Adua or the north arrange to kill me today. I am confident of him that I believe and where I am going to, You see those Nigeria pastor that fail to speak out are not confident of heaven and they most have skeleton to cover, and scared they may kill them, So if you like post my name, If they want my picture to arrange to Kill me, I can send it to them, But the truth would not change, And I know they have tried when I spoke again the census( it is not for the internet).
Look When the children of Isreal were in Egypt It took , one man that God called to set them free, When the blacks in USA were oppressed, It took one man Martin luther king Jr, A pastor to set them free, Martin luther king was a full time pastor,
I want a better Nigeria but not a Nigeria were they cheat people, or people do not keep their promises, Look if a war break out of Nigeria innocent people would die, And have you seen the satellite picture of Nigeria were it shown that the south is more populated than the north, I would ask a question , Where in the world , do you know where less populated people win a war again more populated people, do you think the less populated North would win a war against a more populated south, or do you think the invisible people Makama created from his pen would fight in a war, Check the case of the tutsi and huntu , The Tutsi manipulated the census too, for many years, but see how the Huntu kill them in their thousand, Do you want to see Nigeria end up this way, Nigeria would get there if we do not stop this cheating going. The word of God says righteousness bring a nation to greatness but sin or lie destroy them,
The word of God says do unto others what you want them to do unto you, If the north fair to obey this simple principle of God, Then their would be no basic for the unity of Nigeria, You see the North would suffer, if Nigeria break up, They have to get this into their head, They better visit Chad or Niger, which is close to them to check how they live, It is the oil that have given them the good life they live, And when a person who owns the food feed you, but you know decided you want to take away the food from him, It is starvation that would kill you, How would the north fund education without oil money, where would they get money to build road, look greed would let them loss the blessing of God, that they do not want to appreciate now, The word of God says count your blessing,
Another song says
Count your blessing name them one by one,
See what God has done
Count your blessing name them one by one,
Then you it would surprise you what God have done,
Count your blessing name them one by one.
Then it would surprise you what God have done,
The North is not counting its blessing, Yar Adua would never had gone to school if the south was never part of Nigeria, Nuru Ribadu or El Rufia would be uneducated, IBB would never been able to send his children to university because they all benefited from the blessing of God in the south.
What the north is failing to see, Is that they are dealing with a new generation of Nigerian, Niger delta is child play if the Yoruba do the same, If you doubt, go and see the satellite picture and ask how many million the yoruba are, We are the largest ethnics group in Africa, If you doubt it please go see the satellite picture,
The North now say they do not want to give the Yoruba the senate president sit, They are looking for trouble, The word of God says Wisdom is profitable to direct the wise, The word of God now says that a foolish man would see trouble and would run towards it, I see people who want trouble, and do not want to run, but they better remember how tutsi were killed, let us avoid this for God sake, They have to keep their promise. I do not care if it is Iyabo Obasanjo or Gbemi saraki, or Bode Olamijoke or what ever as long as it is a yoruba we do not care.
IF they can stop this cheating, look I can see a great Nigeria, I mean it we can be a great country. Any marriage base on cheating would end up in divorce,
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xtycod, You said I lied?? First of all was Yar Adua elected based on his merit?? The answer is NO, Yar Adua we all know was selected by President Obasanjo to run during the primary, If you doubt this, I have sources that I can trust, That President Olusegun Obasanjo personally ask all the southern candidate to step down for Yar Adua. When I said the Yoruba's are sell outs, I wasn't joking, did the Igbos not vote for Obasonjo and Abiola, what did you people use to pay us back, with Obasonjo's total destabilization of Anambra state?, while he was making his deal he should have remembered that the south East is over due for presidency, Kalu was called all sorts of names, just to discredit the Igbos, forgeting that the fact that the presidency came back to the south was as a result of the support of the whole of the south, the Yoruba's are prostituting with the north while also forgeting that if the south is united, the north would have to seek our support in doing anything. Look Yar Adua election is based on argreement and not on merit, Now after President Obasanjo was faithful on his own part , The north turn back to make a You turn, You can agree with me that what is happening now is very deserving, there is no guarantee that a prostitute gets her remuneration all the time, Obasanjo did every thing to rig in Yar' adua at all cost, not caring if his action further divides the south, is pellucid that what is happening is a case of one eating his own shyt. xtycod it is not everything we can say over the internet,
You called me being selfish and tribalistic. That I claim I am a christian, So because I am a born again christian I should be a fool and allow others to cheat me?? Or do you think been a christian then I must be a fool, He forgot to include the word opportunist and self centered. Look I am a yoruba, I was born a Yoruba, I would die a Yoruba, I am proud of been a Yoruba. Have you ever read or heard about Elijah in the bible, Do you think Elijah was a man who kept quiet . You see pastor in Nigeria or outside in Nigeria who are not speak out again what is happen in Nigeria because of fear or they are looking for contract, Are not men of God, Any onlooker is either a coward or a traitor. I am none of this, Is good to speak out while making sure that one's argument does not lack probity, and strive to maintain righteous judgment, but this is a case of narrow mindedness and utter stupidity. Get this, the word of God made it clear that I must again evil in my society and against anyone, Look I know I am putting my life into danger, And I know that the north can arrange to kill me, My brother I have over come dead, And I am not scare of death, because the word of God assure me of where I am going, So if Yar Adua or the north arrange to kill me today. I am confident of him that I believe and where I am going to, You see those Nigeria pastor that fail to speak out are not confident of heaven and they most have skeleton to cover, and scared they may kill them, So like post my name, If they want my picture to arrange to Kill me, I can send it to them, But the truth would not change, And I know they have tried when I spoke again the census( it is not for the internet). If you die for a flawed thought process and moribund political ideology, then your death would be a waste trust me. |
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nigeria1
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On the issue of power generation , I am an engineer too, Master , some of your date are wrong, with the power station, There is a different between sign out the money for a project and another govt commissioning the project started by a previous govt. But I would agree, that Nigeria should stop investing in hydro station, It is a waste of money, Thermal power generate more energy than hydro, but less or raw material. we should not invest in hydro again, it is better to go therma, the mabilla plateau station is also a waste of money, not because it is located in the north, but wind station generate less power compare to the cost of thermal,
xtycod, You said I lied?? First of all was Yar Adua elected based on his merit?? The answer is NO, Yar Adua we all know was selected by President Obasanjo to run during the primary, If you doubt this, I have sources that I can trust, That President Olusegun Obasanjo personally ask all the southern candidate to step down for Yar Adua.
Look Yar Adua election is based on agreement and not on merit, Now after President Obasanjo was faithful on his own part , The north turn back to make a You turn.
xtycod it is not everything we can say over the internet,
You called me being selfish and tribalistic. That I claim I am a christian, So because I am a born again christian I should be a fool and allow others to cheat me?? Or do you think been a christian then I must be a fool???
Look I am a yoruba, I was born a Yoruba, I would die a Yoruba, I am proud of been a Yoruba. God made me a Yoruba man. I can not stop been a Yoruba man, I can drop my nigeria citizenship, but I it is impossible for me to drop been a Yoruba. Nigeria can change its name, But Yoruba can not. God made me a Yorubaman for life and I am a proud to be called a Yoruba man. Have you ever read or heard about Elijah in the bible, Do you think Elijah was a man who kept quiet . You see pastor in Nigeria or outside in Nigeria who are not speaking out again what is happen in Nigeria because of fear or they are looking for contract, Are not men of God, Any onlooker is either a coward or a traitor. I am none of this.
Get this, the word of God said that I must speak again evil in my society and against anyone that do them. It is only ungodly men of God who do not speak out. Look I know I am putting my life into danger, And I know that the north can arrange to kill me. My brother I have over come dead, And I am not scare of death, because the word of God assure me of where I am going, So if Yar Adua or the north arrange to kill me today. I am confident of him that I believe and where I am going to, You see those Nigeria pastor that fail to speak out are not confident of heaven and they most have skeleton to cover, and scared they may kill them, So if you like post my name, If they want my picture to arrange to Kill me, I can send it to them, But the truth would not change, And I know they have tried when I spoke again the census( it is not for the internet).
Look When the children of Isreal were in Egypt It took , one man that God called to set them free, When the blacks in USA were oppressed, It took one man Martin luther king Jr, A pastor to set them free, Martin luther king was a full time pastor,
I want a better Nigeria but not a Nigeria were they cheat people, or people do not keep their promises, Look if a war break out of Nigeria innocent people would die, And have you seen the satellite picture of Nigeria were it shown that the south is more populated than the north, I would ask a question , Where in the world , do you know where less populated people win a war again more populated people, do you think the less populated North would win a war against a more populated south, or do you think the invisible people Makama created from his pen would fight in a war, Check the case of the tutsi and huntu , The Tutsi manipulated the census too, for many years, but see how the Huntu kill them in their thousand, Do you want to see Nigeria end up this way, Nigeria would get there if we do not stop this cheating going. The word of God says righteousness bring a nation to greatness but sin or lie destroy them,
The word of God says do unto others what you want them to do unto you, If the north fair to obey this simple principle of God, Then their would be no basic for the unity of Nigeria, You see the North would suffer, if Nigeria break up, They have to get this into their head, They better visit Chad or Niger, which is close to them to check how they live, It is the oil that have given them the good life they live, And when a person who owns the food feed you, but you know decided you want to take away the food from him, It is starvation that would kill you, How would the north fund education without oil money, where would they get money to build road, look greed would let them loss the blessing of God, that they do not want to appreciate now, The word of God says count your blessing,
Another song says
Count your blessing name them one by one,
See what God has done
Count your blessing name them one by one,
Then you it would surprise you what God have done,
Count your blessing name them one by one.
Then it would surprise you what God have done,
The North is not counting its blessing, Yar Adua would never had gone to school if the south was never part of Nigeria, Nuru Ribadu or El Rufia would be uneducated, IBB would never been able to send his children to university because they all benefited from the blessing of God in the south.
What the north is failing to see, Is that they are dealing with a new generation of Nigerian, Niger delta is child play if the Yoruba do the same, If you doubt, go and see the satellite picture and ask how many million the yoruba are, We are the largest ethnics group in Africa, If you doubt it please go see the satellite picture,
The North now say they do not want to give the Yoruba the senate president sit, They are looking for trouble, The word of God says Wisdom is profitable to direct the wise, The word of God now says that a foolish man would see trouble and would run towards it, I see people who want trouble, and do not want to run, but they better remember how tutsi were killed, let us avoid this for God sake, They have to keep their promise. I do not care if it is Iyabo Obasanjo or Gbemi saraki, or Bode Olamijoke or what ever as long as it is a yoruba we do not care.
IF they can stop this cheating, look I can see a great Nigeria, I mean it we can be a great country. Any marriage base on cheating would end up in divorce.
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nigeria1
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NINETOFIVE , what make me an opportunist or self centered is it because I speak up, what is in the mind of 99% of Yorubas, because some people are scared of people like you , who manipulate the truth and make evil look like good. That is why they are afraid to speak out, The word of God says that you are caused because you call evil good and good evil,
Obasanjo reason for supporting the north , was not because he was an igbo hater , but because he wanted to include into the constitution rotational presidency.
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Look When the children of Isreal were in Egypt It took , one man that God called to set them free, When the blacks in USA were oppressed, It took one man Martin luther king Jr, A pastor to set them free, Martin luther king was a full time pastor, Your views are too outlandish to be compeered with that of Martin Luther King, so the Yoruba's are the oppressed in Nigeria now?, is so interesting to know, you seem to have the tendency of eating from two sides of the mouth. I want a better Nigeria but not a Nigeria were they cheat people, or people do not keep their promises, Look if a war break out of Nigeria innocent people would die, And have you seen the satellite picture of Nigeria were it shown that the south is more populated than the north, I would ask a question , Where in the world , do you know where less populated people win a war again more populated people, do you think the less populated North would win a war against a more populated south, , you seem like a man with a natural propensity of being frivolous, what part of the south would be fighting your war. The word of God says do unto others what you want them to do unto you, If the north fair to obey this simple principle of God, Then their would be no basic for the unity of Nigeria, You see the North would suffer, if Nigeria break up, They have to get this into their head, They better visit Chad or Niger, which is close to them to check how they live, It is the oil that have given them the good life they live, And when a person who owns the food feed you, but you know decided you want to take away the food from him, It is starvation that would kill you, How would the north fund education without oil money, where would they get money to build road, look greed would let them loss the blessing of God, that they do not want to appreciate now, The word of God says count your blessing,
Another song says The southwest are equally in the same shoe with the north when it comes to the oil issue, reaping where you did not sow, so kindly keep quiet and stop being an irritant. The North is not counting its blessing, Yar Adua would never had gone to school if the south was never part of Nigeria, Nuru Ribadu or El Rufia would be uneducated, because they all benefited from the blessing of God in the south,
What the north is failing to see, Is that they are dealing with a new generation of Nigerian, Niger delta is child play if the Yoruba do the same, If you doubt, go and see the satellite picture and ask how many million the yoruba are, We are the largest ethnics group in Africa, If you doubt it please go see the satellite picture, wars are not won by Number but better logistic, Israel comes to mind, if it wasn't this same opportunism displayed by Awolowo in the 60s, we wont have to be dealing with any of this now, go figure. The North now say they do not want to give the senate president sit, They are looking for trouble, The word of God says Wisdom is profitable to direct the wise, The word of God now says that a foolish man would see trouble and would run towards it, I see people who want trouble, and do not want to run, but they better remember how tutsi were killed, let us avoid this for God sake, If you have promise keep your word, I do not care if it was Iyabo Obasanjo or Gbemi saraki, or Bode Olamimoke, as long as it is a yoruba we do not care, ,
IF they can stop this cheating, look I can see a great Nigeria, I mean it we can be a great country. Any marriage base on cheating would end up in divorce, you really come across as a very myopic and narrow minded person, infact is too evident, what a stinker. |
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Donzman (m)
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@Debosky You have a knack for falsehood, here are the power stations in Nigeria and generation capacity: 1320 mw - Lagos thermal power station, Egbin, 1987
60 mw - Ijora thermal power station, Ijora, Lagos 1956
720 mw Ogorode thermal power station, Sapele, Delta State 1978.
Afam thermal power station, Afam
760 mw - Kainji hydropower station, Kainji, Niger State 1968.
540 mw - Jebba hydropower station, Jebba, 1985
600 mw - Jebba hydropower station, Shiroro, Minna, Niger State 1990
600mw Delta V1 thermal power station Ughelli, Delta State 1991. Please do a little 1+1 and tell me how Egbin has more capacity than the HEP plants. Also tell me how a country with that power generation capacity but generating just 3200MW should be seen as positive. Finally, admit you were wrong when it comes to the lifespan of power plants, there are power plants which last way more than 50 years with proper care and maintenance!. . .Useful life means nothing because firms often extend the productive life of their stations through refurbishments and whatever! @Nigeria1
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NINETOFIVE , what make me an opportunist or self centered is it because I speak up, what is in the mind of 99% of Yorubas, because some people are scared of people like you , who manipulate the truth and make evil look like good. That is why they are afraid to speak out, The word of God says that you are caused because you call evil good and good evil,
Obasanjo reason for supporting the north , was not because he was an igbo hater , but because he wanted to include into the constitution rotational presidency.
If you say Obasanjo is not an Igbo hater, then you have inadequate knowledge of History, reasoning with you might be an up hill task, the word of God says you are caused if you twist the word of God for evil purposes, a talk of wolf in sheep clothing, a man of God would have not limited his thinking to only what is in the mind of 99% of Yoruba's but other marginalized ethnic groups inclusively, the last time I checked the KUKLUXKLAN was also based on twisted Christian faith, Obasanjo supported the north because he was seeking for a guarantee that the presidency would be returned to the southwest in the future, kapeesh. |
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angel101 (f)
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It is infact money in the pocket first and then they demand the 'oga' and 'yes sir'.  |
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laudate
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"The yorubas are the greediest ,self centered and the most tribalistic Nigerians" "the North would suffer if Nigeria breaks up." Mmmn! The tribalistic cartel are in full swing! What next??  |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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nobody likes snakes.
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laudate
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nobody likes snakes.
Um, were you describing yourself? Don't know of anyone who would refer to himself in such derogatory terms. But then, its' a free world. That word is such an apt description of you, though. I must commend you for this insight. |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Um, were you describing yourself? Don't know of anyone who would refer to himself in such derogatory terms. But then, its' a free world. That word is such an apt description of you, though. I must commend you for this insight. the purpose of the statement is actually achieved, splendid. |
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laudate
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the purpose of the statement is actually achieved, splendid.
Glad to see that you understood my statement, Nine2Five. You called yourself a snake. Wow! Do you really hate yourself that much? |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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Glad to see that you understood my statement, Nine2Five. You called yourself a snake. Wow! Do you really hate yourself that much? is not a coincidence that you are the only one bothered by the snake thing, the whole thing is very self explanatory. |
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laudate
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is not a coincidence that you are the only one bothered by the snake thing, the whole thing is very self explanatory.
Bothered? By what? The fact that you called yourself a 'snake'? Hahahaha!!  |
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debosky (m)
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I admit that I left out one of the stations, but Egbin still bears the most of the power supply needs of the country at present, due to the seasonality of the HEP stations, leaving them at a capacity factor of 60-70% at best of the nameplate ratings (out of 1 year) while the thermal stations can work at 80-90%.
Why haven't you come up with 100 yr old thermal stations as well? truth is power stations are decomissioned usually about 50 years and I stand by that, as most industrial set ups are, they are not operated indefinitely. the second fact you have failed to admit is that your '1/2 the electricity at independence is being currently produced' is a blatant and unwarranted falsehood, as well as your poor understanding of the actual workings of an electricity
production/transmission/distribution grid.
refrain from making false statements when you have no proof and be man enough to admit when you are wrong.
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nigeria1
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NINETOFIVE : You claim the yorubas are like the north in taken oil money, Please find out how much non oil and tax generate in the last 8 year, And find out how many comes from the yorubas, Which is 80% of what Nigeria made, And you since to forget we produce 7% of the oil In Nigeria, We are the fourth largest produce of oil in Nigeria, After the Ijaw, Itsekiri and people of akwa ibom state, So please get your fact right,
i assume you are someone who can reason, But you seem to be in the league of Dozman which thinking pattern is based more on sentiment than the fact, Dozman your lack of relavant education show, Please just an advice try to go back to school, you can't live on economics in Nigeria,
And mr , No one is asking for war Ok, Nigeria can develop, but not base on cheating and you do not want to talk about that. Look what they did to Jonathan house yesterday, Is this the south generation you want to cheat and you believe you would get away with it, They would bomb you and your family, than may be you would know why we are trying to prevent a civil war in Nigeria, Dare them and you see, what they would do, You claim war is not won base on population, even that may be partial correct, but do you think the north can win a war with the south, I would tell you this coming from an engineering background. The north would never be able to win a war against the south,
Why do I say so, more of logic, I have be train to think, and plan, and design and work formula, the north is at a disadvantage if their is war in Nigeria, why, I would point some reason to you,
1 the north is land lock, they do not have access to the sea, south would block all supply by land and air and shoot an plane going toward the north, and even other close country,
2. The north would not have flow of external money, because they would not be able to trade with other country, You need continue flow of money to buy gun and other weapon,
3, The south have better skill people than the north, 90% of Nigeria living outside Nigeria trading their skill are from the south,
4, The south would be redefined if their is war, We all know that when we mean the south , we mostly talk of the south of the River Niger and Benue and not the imagine south in some people end, because people of kwara, kogi and benue have ethnics origin as those of the south, This is just some of the factors, their are many more,
I do not pray for war in Nigeria, We pray for peace, we also pray people should stop cheating each other,
Now to solve the issue of power generation in Nigeria, We need to have an accurate census, electrical engineers use the data to calculate the amount of power use,
To transmit, you need to know how much you use. and design a network for distribution and you also calculate the loss over the network, new kogi, station should be increase to about 5000WM, and all power from this station should be used in the north, Omotosho should also increase to about 4,000 MW and Patolato (ogun state) should be increase to about 4000 MW,, also increase sepele to 2000MW, all other should not be less than 1000MW. Not everything I can say over the internet, If I head Nepa or Power and steel ministry, there would 24 hrs, only engineers should head power and steel, communication, transportation, this are engineering ministry, If you can allow a non doctor to head health, while allow a non engineer to head a highly complex ministry, that is technical,
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chrisokw
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@Nigeria1NINETOFIVE : You claim the yorubas are like the north in taken oil money, Please find out how much non oil and tax generate in the last 8 year, And find out how many comes from the yorubas, Which is 80% of what Nigeria made, And you since to forget we produce 7% of the oil In Nigeria, We are the fourth largest produce of oil in Nigeria, After the Ijaw, Itsekiri and people of akwa ibom state, So please get your fact right, Nigeria1 and his lies. You are the one who really needs to get your facts right. First, Lagos contributes more to the national coffer in terms of non-oil revenue, but Lagos is not strictly a Yoruba affair. The revenue from Lagos comes from all Nigerians living and owning businesses in Lagos, including the Igbo which they say make up at least 30% of the population. Secondly, by what statistics is the south west more oil-bearing than the south east? There are presently two oil states, Abia and Imo, in the east and together both received about 3.5 billion naira from the NDDC, while Ondo, the only oil-bearing state in the west received 2.3, in 2007 budget. There are much more oil in the east than west, and this is not to add the oil that has been discovered in Anambra (for which orient refinery is being built) and Enugu. There are Nine oil-producing states Rivers Bayelsa Delta Akwa Ibom Imo Abia Cross River Edo Ondo The two core Igbo states (Imo, Abia) combined beat the only oil-producing Yoruba state (Ondo) by far. http://www.vanguardngr.com/articles/2002/cover/may07/10052007/f310052007.htmlhttp://allafrica.com/stories/200705100260.htmlNigeria: NDDC Proposes N59.8bn Budget for 2007 This Day (Lagos) 10 May 2007 Posted to the web 10 May 2007 Sufuyan Ojeifo Abuja The Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC) has proposed a N59.8 billion budget for this year. The Senate received the budget proposal on Tuesday, indicating the figure is lower that that of last year which stood at N78.4 billion. The budget comprises the Federal Government's contribution of N24 billion, oil companies' contributions of N30 billion, Revenue of N5.5 billion brought forward from last year and other internally realized income of N350 million. According to the Commission, "this is a reduction of 4.98 per cent from 2006 estimate," and has been christened "a budget of continuity." According to the Commission, "In an effort to counter the unexpected fall in actual receipts, partnerships shall be rigorously pursued. "Agreements have been reached with some international bodies and MOUs have been signed with UNITAR, ADB and others on various collaboration programmes." It further disclosed that "fruitful partnership discussions had begun with the World Bank and UNDP, and NDDC will continue to source for partners and drive partnering to augment its limited resources relative to the scope of development intervention required in the region." The Commission said that another major thrust of the budget was the execution of solar-powered water supply projects in over 100 communities in the region to ensure portable water supply for all and "the diversion of energy resource from the traditional crude oil and hydropower to alternative energy resource-solar." It said that attention would be focused on the completion of existing on-going projects within the limits of available resources. According to the Commission, "The budget has provided adequately for the existing staff to pilot the Commission's activities, past service liabilities, workmen compensation and 12.5 per cent Contributory Pension Scheme have also been fully provided for." The Commission has projected the sharing of N53.8 billion revenue to among the nine states comprising the NDDC on the bases of percentage of oil production, percentage per equality of states and share per percentage of oil production, among others. Abia State is projected to receive N1.6 billion, Akwa Ibom (N4.8 billion), Bayelsa (N6.2 billion), Cross River (N1.7 billion), Delta (N5.3 billion), Edo (1.5 billion), Imo (N1.6 billion), Ondo (2.3 billion) and Rivers (N7.5 billion). The sharing according to the Commission would be direct to the States, but would be through "centrally co-coordinated programmes." And, Oil is also confirmed present in commercial quantity in Anambra. Hence they are now building a refinery -orient refinery- chairmaned by Emeka Anyaoku, former Commonwealth secretary general
http://www.rmrdc.gov.ng/MineralRawMaterials/Petroleum.htm
http://www.orientpetroleum-ng.com/Exploration.asp?LNK=X
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mohadana
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the Ibo's are very insecure. |
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nigeria1
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chrisokw , do you have to insult people to make a point, I do not know were you get your statistics from, but my statistics are from the federal ministry of finance website, This is how I arrive at about average 7% for ondo, All you need to do , is calculate the amount collect by ondo state over the period oil revenue have been paid, And do not forget that the Itsekeri are also related to the Yorubas. And out of the over 20% that state contribute to Nigeria oil, It is said they contribute more than 50%, So when you had all he figure, If you agree with that put it at about 17%, please do your home work well about Yoruba and the Itsekiri before you reply me, Please inform me the date when lagos stop been part of Yoruba, I know lagos is part of the south west, am I correct, http://www.fmf.gov.ng/state_FAAC_May1999.PDFhttp://www.fmf.gov.ng/detail.php?link=faacThe issue is not about betrayer, Look I was one of the people who wanted an igbo president, I did tape on the issue, But for 2007, No igboman could have won, There was 11 igbomen for the presidential race, The best of them was prof pat utomi( my view) because he had a better chance of winning, but Ohaneze the body that control igboland refuse to support, thereby reducing his chance at the poll. even when he was better accepted by people of other zone, I have alway said, Igbos do not know political maths, This is not an insult but an advice, In politics you play chest game, You present the one most love by other group, and not the one your people want, That is the game, I may be wrong, |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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@Nigeria1 NINETOFIVE : You claim the yorubas are like the north in taken oil money, Please find out how much non oil and tax generate in the last 8 year, And find out how many comes from the yorubas, Which is 80% of what Nigeria made, And you since to forget we produce 7% of the oil In Nigeria, We are the fourth largest produce of oil in Nigeria, After the Ijaw, Itsekiri and people of akwa ibom state, So please get your fact right, Nigeria1 and his lies. You are the one who really needs to get your facts right. First, Lagos contributes more to the national coffer in terms of non-oil revenue, but Lagos is not strictly a Yoruba affair. The revenue from Lagos comes from all Nigerians living and owning businesses in Lagos, including the Igbo which they say make up at least 30% of the population. Secondly, by what statistics is the south west more oil-bearing than the south east? There are presently two oil states, Abia and Imo, in the east and together both received about 3.5 billion naira from the NDDC, while Ondo, the only oil-bearing state in the west received 2.3, in 2007 budget. There are much more oil in the east than west, and this is not to add the oil that has been discovered in Anambra (for which orient refinery is being built) and Enugu. There are Nine oil-producing states Rivers Bayelsa Delta Akwa Ibom Imo Abia Cross River Edo Ondo The two core Igbo states (Imo, Abia) combined beat the only oil-producing Yoruba state (Ondo) by far. http://www.vanguardngr.com/articles/2002/cover/may07/10052007/f310052007.htmlhttp://allafrica.com/stories/200705100260.htmlNigeria: NDDC Proposes N59.8bn Budget for 2007 This Day (Lagos) 10 May 2007 Posted to the web 10 May 2007 Sufuyan Ojeifo Abuja The Niger Delta Development Commission (NDDC) has proposed a N59.8 billion budget for this year. The Senate received the budget proposal on Tuesday, indicating the figure is lower that that of last year which stood at N78.4 billion. The budget comprises the Federal Government's contribution of N24 billion, oil companies' contributions of N30 billion, Revenue of N5.5 billion brought forward from last year and other internally realized income of N350 million. According to the Commission, "this is a reduction of 4.98 per cent from 2006 estimate," and has been christened "a budget of continuity." According to the Commission, "In an effort to counter the unexpected fall in actual receipts, partnerships shall be rigorously pursued. "Agreements have been reached with some international bodies and MOUs have been signed with UNITAR, ADB and others on various collaboration programmes." It further disclosed that "fruitful partnership discussions had begun with the World Bank and UNDP, and NDDC will continue to source for partners and drive partnering to augment its limited resources relative to the scope of development intervention required in the region." The Commission said that another major thrust of the budget was the execution of solar-powered water supply projects in over 100 communities in the region to ensure portable water supply for all and "the diversion of energy resource from the traditional crude oil and hydropower to alternative energy resource-solar." It said that attention would be focused on the completion of existing on-going projects within the limits of available resources. According to the Commission, "The budget has provided adequately for the existing staff to pilot the Commission's activities, past service liabilities, workmen compensation and 12.5 per cent Contributory Pension Scheme have also been fully provided for." The Commission has projected the sharing of N53.8 billion revenue to among the nine states comprising the NDDC on the bases of percentage of oil production, percentage per equality of states and share per percentage of oil production, among others. Abia State is projected to receive N1.6 billion, Akwa Ibom (N4.8 billion), Bayelsa (N6.2 billion), Cross River (N1.7 billion), Delta (N5.3 billion), Edo (1.5 billion), Imo (N1.6 billion), Ondo (2.3 billion) and Rivers (N7.5 billion). The sharing according to the Commission would be direct to the States, but would be through "centrally co-coordinated programmes." And, Oil is also confirmed present in commercial quantity in Anambra. Hence they are now building a refinery -orient refinery- chairmaned by Emeka Anyaoku, former Commonwealth secretary general http://www.rmrdc.gov.ng/MineralRawMaterials/Petroleum.htmhttp://www.orientpetroleum-ng.com/Exploration.asp?LNK=XThanks, you are right on the point, very soon all the igbo speaking states that would be producing oil, would be six states; [while our dear bigot friend would be busy claiming Itshekiri, a very distict ethnicity to be part of Yoruba land, an astraunomical level of oppurtunism] 1, Abia state 2, Imo state 3, Anambra state 4, Enugu state 5, Delta state [ mainly Igbo speaking] 6, Rivers state [ mainly Igbo speaking] it would be fair to accept that Igbo land is blessed. |
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Donzman (m)
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Delta state has a good proportion of Igbos but it is notmainly Igbo speaking!
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nigeria1
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You need to be delivered from lies, You see, first of all , do not let the ijaw hear say, rivers be igboland, and two do not let Uhrobo hear wetin you dey talk, Now on the Itseriki issue, If you do not believe Itseriki are yorubas too, I understand Ilaje, I dialet of yoruba in ondo, the Ilaje and itsekiri are related, really they are brother, nearly 80% same , IF you do not believe me, The most IMPORTANT and well know Uhrobo man ever in Nigeria is not Ibori, but DAVID EJOOR, Here below is a statement and letter he wrote, """"The reaction of Urhobo and Ijaw led to the change of Warri Province to Delta Province, when Awolowo changed the title of Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri Province to become the only traditional ruler in Warri province. The Itsekiri language is an Ilaje dialect. """"' http://www.waado.org/Warri/Ejoor.htmlSo you see we really control 17% of Nigeria oils techincal, and the Igalla are also our brother, check your history book, that why we share word together, |
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NINETOFIVE (m)
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You need to be delivered from lies, You see, first of all , do not let the ijaw hear say, rivers be igboland, and two do not let Uhrobo hear wetin you dey talk, Now on the Itseriki issue, If you do not believe Itseriki are yorubas too, I understand Ilaje, I dialet of yoruba in ondo, the Ilaje and itsekiri are related, really they are brother, nearly 80% same , IF you do not believe me, The most IMPORTANT and well know Uhrobo man ever in Nigeria is not Ibori, but DAVID EJOOR, Here below is a statement and letter he wrote, """"The reaction of Urhobo and Ijaw led to the change of Warri Province to Delta Province, when Awolowo changed the title of Olu of Itsekiri to Olu of Warri Province to become the only traditional ruler in Warri province. The Itsekiri language is an Ilaje dialect. """"' http://www.waado.org/Warri/Ejoor.htmlSo you see we really control 17% of Nigeria oils techincal, and the Igalla are also our brother, check your history book, that why we share word together, I understand Yoruba far more than you, the Yoruba dialects I understand ranges from Akoko dialect, Ekiti Dialet, Oyo dialect, Lagos dialect, even the kwara dialect with the exception of Egbira which is different language entirely, your claiming that Itshekiri is Yoruba is like me claiming that the benue state is igbo land because some of there languages is quite close to igbo language, omo iya to ba fe ja ole, ji nka ni bi ti won o ni mue, ke de monye ya ka si mi [kilode omo iya lo si mi] Itshekiri is a distict ethnic group, quit this your opportunism it stinks, infact don't let the itshekiri here what you are spewing. |
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