Muhammed, Islam And Sex

The mention of Muhammed brings to mind his sexual orgies with woman that even his followers describe him with some uncomplimentary remarks.
For a man to sleep with 9 women at once beats my imagination!

Muhammad's Sexual ProwessIslamic tradition relates that Muhammad was a superman when it came to sex:

Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, "The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number." I asked Anas, "Had the Prophet the strength for it?" Anas replied, "We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men)." And Sa'id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven). (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268)

Narrated Anas bin Malik:
The Prophet used to visit all his wives in one night and he had nine wives at that time. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 282; see also parallel hadiths in Vol. 7, Book 62, Numbers 6 and 142)

How credible are these traditions? Note that Muhammad was not a young man of twenty or 25 at that time — and it would have been rather incredible even at that age —, but he was already about 60 years old when he had finally aquired all those nine wives. Moreover, these traditions state that this was not an exceptional one time event, but allege that Muhammad did so regularly.

There is another hadith which may provide an explanation of how these above traditions have to be understood:

Narrated Aisha: Magic was worked on Allah's Apostle so that he used to think that he had sexual relations with his wives while he actually had not. (Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 7, Book 71, Number 660; see also Number 661)

Maybe the hadith relating that Muhammad was imagining having sex with his wives — while in reality he had not — is a commentary/explanation to the first set of traditions? Note again that this tradition (originating with Muhammad's favorite wife and sex partner!) also emphasizes that this happened not only once but regularly.

For a detailed discussion on the issue of magic and Muhammad having come under a spell, see the articles listed in the dictionary entry Muhammad and Satan.

Even though Muhammad probably did not have all the sex that he thought he had performed, the above traditions still provide part of the evidence that sex was rather prominently on his mind, see also the article Muhammad, Islam, and Sex.

Far-reaching implications

The consequences of this observation are much larger than merely gaining a clearer picture of Muhammad's sex life. Apparently, the so-called authentic and trustworthy hadiths are reporting Muhammad's sustained illusions and hallucinations as if they were factual!

If that is indeed the case on this issue, this immediately raises the next question: How many more of the hadiths in the foundational collections of Islamic traditions would potentially fall into that category? Many of the teachings of Islam, both regarding theology and instructions for practical life, are based on these hadiths. Are Muslims building their faith and their lives on something that may not have been much more than the result of Muhammad's hallucinations?

If it is established that Muhammad's illusions are narrated as facts in the hadiths, this also raises doubts in regard to the Qur'an. What if some or all of the alleged "visitations of the angel Gabriel" and the "revelations that were brought down" by him were creations of an unstable mind, and have really been an illusion instead of a fact?

The question is, was he having sex with 9 women every night or were they illusions?

9 women!?!?!?!?!?! viagra eat your heart out.

any one say "buran-tashi"






Peace!

Instead of polluting the place with lots of anti-Muhammad threads .

why not put all under  one thread .

Its irritating!

leave me alone .

why not ask the creator of the threads

@Mukina

Salam

Please leave the thread and move to other threads. The thread is senseless and replying such will be a waste of time.



@noisycheeks


I can see that you are having a big problem and its only God that can cure you. As for the rubbish you posted up, you know babs too well when it comes to debate, I would have given you worst response about your prophet but replying you will be a sheer waste of time. I can provide you worst response in which you will never like even from your bible just as I have been doing but I am not ready to do that because I have not even done that when your folks have been saying that I have been deriding Jesus. So go on lift from Silas and post more. You should know that your response is in the similar websites your lifted yours from.

@noisycheeks

You do well.

@topic,

How is it that Muslims (following the examples of people like Ahmed Deedat) denouce the Bible as an X-rated book; and yet they forget that the one through whom the Qur'an came to them was known to be even far more X-rated?

Why is the bliss of the Islamic paradise so interwoven with hints of sex and such felicitations? What is the rational behind the idea of a reward of 72 virgins for jihadists?

    

Pictures are disdained in Islam; but just an artistic impression to ask here:


         

                   Is this an idea of the Islamic paradise??

When you are through with your sermon, take it to BOA and withdraw some dough and when they ask for the reason, you tell them it is because Muhammed was complete/Potent, had the power of 20 men, married many wives and produced children while ‘Biblical Jesus’ was incomplete/impotent, never wooed any lady throughout his 30 something years of preaching the gospel let alone marrying a lady to produce children.

Tit for Tat.


@Telly B

Please since you came up with the drawing and one of your folks said that there is not going to be male or female in heaven, can you please explain to me why we will have virgins in heaven?

@Telly B



Are you hurt or frustrated. Jesus in the Quran is never the same as biblical Jesus if you care to know. So if my prophet married many wives, very good but your biblical Jesus was an impotent.





Far from that








No don't try covering her. By the way, your highlighted words goes contrary to what Jesus said. He said that we would be equal to angels. Please what does equal to angels meant and if there is not going to be male or female in heaven, do we have 'virgin angels' since we would be like angels?




Thats is why I asked you the question. If there is no going to be male or female in heaven, how come 'virgins' in heaven?




Brother, am asking you too, If there is not going to male or female in heaven and that we would all be like angels, how come 'virgins' and do we have 'virgin angels"

Thanks

telly b,
you have got time. lol i would not even bother.

@Telly B





 




Dr. Naik? It seems you have problem with him having exposed the shocking truth behind your doctrines. If you care to know, your Jesus is God while my own Jesus is a messenger and slave of Allah





You should read that from your bible




I have neither said that too.
You have been posting blasphemous statements against my prophet and I am promising you that i will be giving you same from your bible. I wonder why your God Jesus never wooed a lady in his 30 something years preaching the gospel let alone impregnating someone





Am giving you what you bargained for



I wasn't at all - and if you couldbe kind enough to go to the said link you're referring to, the you'll see my point that you were unable to provide verses for her simple direct questions.

Ok this is the verse

Revelation 14 v 1-4

1Then I looked and lo, on mount zion stood the lamb, and with 44,000 who had his name and his father’s name written on their foreheads.

4: It is these who have not defiled themselves with women for they are chaste (greek word is virgin) and it is these who follow the lamb wherever he goes, these have been redeemed from mankind as first fruits for God and the Lamb

5. and in their mouth no lie was found for they are spotless.

So over to you.




Brother, abegi, what equal means that we will be like angels and as angels are. abi no be so?



The verse are given above, so over to you. Since you  have been claiming that there will not be sex in heaven, how come those virgins above?

Thanks





I have done that above

babs787,you lost the case,you don't know how to defend your religion thats the problem.its a nice post,what confuses me is i don't even know why muslims treat muhammed who was just a man even better than God.you will always side him,what i want to make clear is that muhammed was a mere man so to say,so he was not above sin.

@thesilent1,

Well, I don't really think we should be deliberately sarcastic towards anyone. It breeds ill-feelings between people, and even makes them turn on their own prophets to catsigate them. This is the reason why some Muslims think that they are getting back at Christians when they say all kinds of things against Jesus Christ, forgetting that the same Jesus Christ is honoured in their Qur'an.

People may find some practices in religion (any type of religion) distasteful; but for any meaning discussions to hold, we should strive to set forth our questions intelligently and confidently - if for nothing else, but to establish that we know what we're talking about. That is why I have offerred our Muslim friends the following question:

       If Christians call Jesus God, does that mean that He is a false god??

Although they continue to evade that question, it does not help the cause of Islam for Muslims to refer to their own Muslim authors as "deluded authors that lied in order to deceive"; nor has it even helped to revamp the public image of those playing the "tit-for-tat" game by going so far to castigate the same prophet Jesus who is honoured in their Qur'an.

As for the question of Muslims facing east to pray, there isn't anything wrong with that actually. No, I didn't make a typographic error. I meant that there is nothing wrong with facing east (or any direction for that matter) to pray. The one issue that brought me here to take Muslims on the forum to task is the rascal idea of their pretending that others are "ignorant fools" while they have continually exhibited utter vacuity of thought and intelligence. Imagine the silliness of Muslims saying that "religion [referring to Islam] came before Geography", whereas there were reknowned geographers who lived at least 600 years before Muhammad was born!! What kind of reasoning from the black hole would make a breathing specie make such kinds of assertions??

Anyway, the issue of sex in the Muslim heaven/paradise, the promise of 72 virgins there, as well rivers of liquor, jihadists hungry for harems, coitus interruptus by Muhammad's companions while the qur'an was being revealed, etc. etc. continue to pop up as serious enough questions to Muslims from those who do not understand the rational behind them. These issues are not ferreted from outer space and posed as questions; rather, they are the very things one reads in their holy books. If they do not exist, the Muslim should not lower his dignity to minus zero and begin to play rascal games. At best, he could simply state it as clearly as daylight, that these issues do not exist in Islam - and then correct our misconceptions by pointing out the very texts that state their points. Abi??

On the whole, I've enjoyed all the posts - and have been deeply challenged by them. I do hope to get time off soon again and come see what's happening on this beautiful Forum, a melting point of dross and brains.