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ocho (f)
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I have this deeply rooted apprehension that the governemt will think that imprisonment will automatically erase the act of homosexuality and obviuosly that's not how it works.I don't exactly have laid out strategies to stop the whole act either but i know for sure that putting them in prison won't exactly change them and make them straight. I for one am totally against homo sexuality in every sence of it and i can't help but fear for Nigeria when i hear of how rampant homosexuality is becoming. i once saw this Nigrerian movie about two girls who turned lesbians and they had all these "disgusting" (i chose to describe them that way) and really disturbing scenes together  ..............i was like"you've got to be kidding me" "the ungodly act has even made it's way in to the movie industry??" now that's really scary!!!! I know the governmnt is trying to do something about the whole same sex relationship issue but i don't buy the idea that putting anyone in prison, Nigerian prisons for that matter, will automatically make them a changed person. There should be other ways to discourage same sex relatonships than confining a person to the four walls of a prison cell. At this point, i can only ask for God's divine intervention in Nigeria. God dey sha! |
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DoubleRevv (m)
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it's guys like seun and nferyn who canvass for such nonsense under the umbrella of "human rights", "right of association" etc.
I can unequivocally say that this kind of guys are stupid! would you like to perform rodeo with your son seun ehn. stop this "Ideals" and face what is beneficial to everyone. we will keep on hating sexual pervesion whether Idolatory of whatever.
Thats it OBJ..
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DoubleRevv (m)
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(continued from previous)
The same at Ijebuman. you are turning what is clearly a moral issue to something political. toddler- grow up!
Our generation is saying NO! I'll sure hate to see guys like you ruling Nigeria. your rhetoric is nonsense "...government regulating morality". I wouldn't be surprised if in a few years we allow gay marriages in nija.
the west brot hip stars we follow
homo..foolow foolow.
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tassmal (m)
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i don't support the jail term but i feel it is about we as a nation official make our stance. i am glad obj is in power today to say the Big no.
shame to blair and others who thinK it is human rights. next they would tell us there is nothing wrong with sex with animals.
devil no go win o!!
ocho kudo... i like your comments.
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nferyn (m)
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I still haven't hear much of a rational argument exposing the immorality of same sex relationships, except for the contribution by naijaguru. Unfortunately that argument was based on a few logical fallacies, but at least it had substance.
Saying something is immoral does not prove it's immorality. You need to objectively show that harm is caused by these relationships.
What I'm most puzzled about is that many of you just jump on the bandwagon and don't see the obvious implications of this proposed law. As ijebuman clearly pointed out, this law is but a smokescreen, it will be paving the road to a dictatorship
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ijebuman (m)
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Hope Nairaland is around long enough so we can all observe the repercussions of this law. There is no need to aim insults at anyone for expressing their view.
This reminds me of the famous poem by Martin Niemöller, First they came...
First they came for the Jews.
But I didn't speak up because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the communists.
But I didn't speak up because I was not a communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists.
But I didn't speak up because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Catholics.
But I didn't speak up because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me.
And by that time no one was left to speak up....
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hola2ng (m)
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My views-
1. Why not ban corruption, while also imposing a jail term ?
2. Banning same sex marriage or relationships does not solve the problem-It only makes it worse !
3. Moral values in family upbringing. Shouldnt the Govt. concentrate more on this ?
4. All the items(textiles etc.)banned by the Govt. today are still being smuggled in anyway.
5. Teenagers & adults involved in it will only strive to be more secretive,wont they ?
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hot-angel (f)
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I still think this is a really bad idea, whoever thought of it must be really stupid. Why would homsexuals go to jail? What happened to 'human rights'? You can be whoever you want. That concerns no body.
If they are saying they want to go by the Bible, i hope they remember that not everyone in nigeria believes in what the bible says. Some people read the kuran while some don't read neither. WOuld those people too be punished for doing what the government feel is wrong, But it perfectly right to them?
There are sooo many thing the nigerian governement should be doing that they are not doing. It's the one that's not affecting the community in any way that they feel they could easily lay their hands on. They need to do stuffs that affect the community first. Banning same sex relationship. Arrant Nonsense!
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medube (m)
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As much as I want Naija to follow the trend of development, I am 1,000,000,000,000% behind the government and its moves to ban Homosexualism and Lesbanism. I'm sorry to say it, but I do not understand what is the basis of it at all. Everyone makes so much nosie about the abuse of human rights and all that crap, but at the same time we hold our hands on our heads and say "this AIDS ting don dey take style dey spread o!" I'm not speaking about other religions, but I wish I could ask those gay or lesbian people who are moving to get married as Christians, that in their Bible, did God create a man for Adam or a woman for Eve?  Let them ban them infact 5 years is too small a jail sentence to serve...and thats my personal opinion. |
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hot-angel (f)
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As much as I want Naija to follow the trend of development, I am 1,000,000,000,000% behind the government and its moves to ban Homosexualism and Lesbanism. I'm sorry to say it, but I do not understand what is the basis of it at all. Everyone makes so much nosie about the abuse of human rights and all that crap, but at the same time we hold our hands on our heads and say "this AIDS ting don dey take style dey spread o!"
Are you saying that it's homosexuals that are spreading HIV/AIDS.. that has to be the funniest thing have heard in soo long. Even if they take away all the homos in this world, HIV and AIDS are going no where. As long as there's no cure for it, it'll keep spreading. Homosexuals are in no way responisble for the spread of HIV/AIDS. |
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2nde (m)
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Here we go agian with unreasonable policy and rules. How can Nigerian govt made such rules, it's really stupid.
Homo or no homo have nothing to the with the society, why not leave them alone.
I am totally agianst it personally. We have a couple of issues that is affecting the country negatively which has not beed addressed like cultism, ethnosentrism etc
I get tired of this Nig govt sometimes
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nferyn (m)
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I'm still waiting for a rational argument proving the immorality of same sex relationships. Nobody takes up the chalenge. Could that be because there are no rational arguments proving the immorality of same sex relationships? I just wonder.
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medube (m)
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Are you saying that it's homosexuals that are spreading HIV/AIDS.. that has to be the funniest thing have heard in soo long. http://www.teensforteens.net/homosexuality/aids_and_homosexuality.htmlI believe this is still Africa and Nigerie to be precise, let maintain that moral belief and stop immitating the 1st world with their corrupt and dirty practices even to the extent of entering a church and getting married in the presence of God, people what are we thinking...  |
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goodguy (m)
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You can be whoever you want. That concerns no body.
This is the major problem of humanity and that is one of the major reasons why Nigeria is backward today. No one cares about the other, as far as it's their life, and they aren't affecting others, they should live it anyhow they want.  |
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hot-angel (f)
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You gave me a link that's out to kill you. Here's a quote from the link: However, evidence suggests that on the contrary gay men have been very sensitive and responsive in regard to safer sex promotion and condoms are widely and properly used. Gay men are actually sensible enough to use condoms. I really didn't get what the point of that link was.. but im sure that you didn't read through it and you just read the first part that says. Homosexual men remain the group at the greatest risk of getting infected with HIV in the UK. Listen to me... We are not saying anything about the UK here. We are talking about nigeria. What has research said about gay men in nigeria promoting HIV/AIDS?? This is the major problem of humanity and that is one of the major reasons why Nigeria is backward today. No one cares about the other, as far as it's their life, and they aren't affecting others, they should live it anyhow they want. As long as what you are doing does not affect your neighbour.. i don't think there's a problem in doing it. It's not as if homosexuals force non-homosexuals to join them in their 'act'. Those homosexuals choose to be what they are.. and if you don't buy the idea.. well, that's like your own cup of garri. Let everyone live their life the way they want it, as long as it's not affecting the society in a major way. |
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medube (m)
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As long as what you are doing does not affect your neighbour.. i don't think there's a problem in doing it.
You are right hot-angel, if I'm a thief who robs by night and kills, and I don't affect my neighbour, it shouldnt be a crime???  |
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owy (m)
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Wao, i ve a question 4 all thoe that support gay marriage. What if you had grown up to discover that you ve two mothers and no father(Adopted) or two fathers and no mother, what would you do? Lets talk more on d future of the act. imagine a motherless president or a fatherless governor. gay act or lesbianism is an act that comes from psychological problem and they need help
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ijebuman (m)
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@@medube
Aids can also be transmitted via blood transfusions and needle sharing.
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2nde (m)
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Wao, i ve a question 4 all thoe that support gay marriage. What if you had grown up to discover that you ve two mothers and no father(Adopted) or two fathers and no mother, what would you do? Lets talk more on d future of the act. imagine a motherless president or a fatherless governor. gay act or lesbianism is an act that comes from psychological problem and they need help This thing is a matter of choice, some will like it and some will not. Dont come up with ache questions |
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medube (m)
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@@medube
Aids can also be transmitted via blood transfusions and needle sharing.
Duuuuh, you don't say! |
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ijebuman (m)
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Duuuuh, you don't say! Just pointing that out to you because i thought may be you had another '' smart'' idea about what we could ban to stop Aids from spreading through those methods... |
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hot-angel (f)
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You are right hot-angel, if I'm a thief who robs by night and kills, and I don't affect my neighbour, it shouldnt be a crime??? If you rob and kill.. u are affecting the society. You just reduced the socities population by 1 or 2 souls. If you engage yourself in homosexual act, no one is hurt... Why in the name of fxck would anyone compare stealing and homosexuality together? No one is being hurt if you are an homosexual, your patner also choose to be homo. But when you steal, you are taking things by force from the owner. Those are two different things that shouldn't be comapred. |
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nferyn (m)
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You are right hot-angel, if I'm a thief who robs by night and kills, and I don't affect my neighbour, it shouldnt be a crime??? That's a problem with all those victim-less crimes. It's complete nonsense to describe these as crimes Homosexuality a crime? It would make me laugh if the consequences weren't so serious Robbing, stealing, maiming, killing, lying, ... all have victims, people that are negatively affected. Where are the victims of homosexuality? Where are all these people that have been brutalised and tortured by the evil act of homosexuality? <SARCASM type="bitter">Really, I don't like poor people. They disturb me. Why can't we jail them for 5 years? </SARCASM> |
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goodguy (m)
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As long as what you are doing does not affect your neighbour.. i don't think there's a problem in doing it. It's not as if homosexuals force non-homosexuals to join them in their 'act'. Those homosexuals choose to be what they are.. and if you don't buy the idea.. well, that's like your own cup of garri. Let everyone live their life the way they want it, as long as it's not affecting the society in a major way. Then fornication is right, as far as I don't transmit HIV to my partner and I don't harm her in anyway?? You see, you cannot, because it's urs, live your life anyhow. Directly or indirectly, the way you live your life will definitely affect other people. Take it or leave it. |
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nferyn (m)
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Then fornication is right, as far as I don't transmit HIV to my partner and I don't harm her in anyway??
You do harm her emotionally |
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goodguy (m)
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Even with her consent?
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hot-angel (f)
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Then fornication is right, as far as I don't transmit HIV to my partner and I don't harm her in anyway??
You harm someone.. You either harm your wife (if u are a married man), or you harm her husband (if she's a married woman). You also harm your wedding vows. So you see.. homosexuals, are doing what they doing.. harming nobody! Even with her consent?
Even when it's with her consent.. You might not be harming HER.. but u harm her husband or harm your wife. |
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medube (m)
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Then fornication is right, as far as I don't transmit HIV to my partner and I don't harm her in anyway??
You see, you cannot, because it's urs, live your life anyhow. Directly or indirectly, the way you live your life will definitely affect other people. Take it or leave it.
Thank you jare goodguy. Please Hot-angel since you have justified the comparison to killing as incomparable, then please tell me why is drugs a crime? Afterall if I smoke a joint or sniff coke, how does it affect the society? Hows does it affect my neighbour? AFterall I'm becoming kolo myself... |
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hot-angel (f)
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When u smoke marijuana... you harm the society, because marijuana will kill you. When you die, the society looses a soul.
When you are homosexual, no soul is lost.
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nferyn (m)
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Please Hot-angel since you have justified the comparison to killing as incomparable, then please tell me why is drugs a crime? Afterall if I smoke a joint or sniff coke, how does it affect the society? Hows does it affect my neighbour? AFterall I'm becoming kolo myself...
Drug use should not be a crime, as long as the resulting behaviour is not negatively affecting other people |
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medube (m)
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Abeg now you are arguing out of line. If I want to die or take my life, is it anybodys concern? Afterall as long as i die alone without harming anyone or killing anyone in the process, then I do not think its a crime like homosexuality is not a crime. And just for the record, you are making me laugh now, because where does it say marijuana kills??? |
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