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misright (f)
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If you don't believe the earth was created in seven days;
If you don't believe Jesus literally rose from the dead;
If you don't genuinely believe that an omniscient God implanted
a divine foetus in the womb of a virgin human woman, are you really a Christian?
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thesilent1 (m)
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christian = christlike as in you believe what he believes.
do not believe what christ does = not christian.
as usual, i try to sound as simple and basic as i possibily can. i suppose i can go into a 15 page answer but gosh, i am just too tired. lol
if you are on a football field and playing football but not using your leg to kick the ball. instead you use your hands. are you still playing football?
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RichyBlacK (m)
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@thesilent1
Our Lord Jesus Christ, did not believe in some parts of the Bible because they were written after he died and resurrected.
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thesilent1 (m)
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can i just add that this is different to not believing EVERY "meaning" you have heard
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worldismy (m)
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one should know that the earth was created by an extraordinaryman and that is God the earth can exist on his own
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thesilent1 (m)
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what the ?!?!?! lol
okay, as i said in my post, i am trying to be simplistic here and avoid a lot of technicalities but as usual, someone had to get smart. thanks!
okay, to satisfy the likes of richyblack, to make that addtition will mean that even though he is now sitted at the right side of the father, he is UNAWARE of anything that occured after the cross, neither does he have a say
i suppose his knowledge was limited to only stuff that happned prior to the cross
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temmyabby (f)
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so what exact do u believe, that makes u call yourself a Christian?  , that the mistake people make, U ARE NOT A CHRISTIAN BECAUSE U FATHER AND MOTHER ARE CHRISTIANS, if u do not believe that Christ died and arose on the 3rd day, u don't believe the bible is the word of God, u don't believe the bible stories, , then u should question why u say u are a Christian because u are not, that is my point of view |
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topten
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The bible is not the judgment. A Christian is not supposed to believe every word in the bible. Jesus died long before the bible was written. You are saved by the blood not by the book. Read this articles "Five things a Christian must know" at: http://oxcheck.net/sa/1.htmlRead the bible but don't believe everything. |
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degubi (m)
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Dear Misright if someone does not believe in any of the things u listed then there is no point calling oneself a christian. It is all about faith: Faith is the appearance of things yet hoped for, the conviction of things not yet seen.
I agree that there are things in the bible that may seem far fetched, but then so are many things that occur in daily living which cannot be explained away. Trying to rationalise God is like explaining the internet to an ant, no man can understand God, we have not even understood why we behave the way we do. Rather we should focus on knowing this God that do such great things and not dwell on questioning if he did do the things he said he did.
p.s stop rationalising and start believing.
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olawa20 (m)
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Are u a christian and u find it hard to believe these things, or you want to become one and you find it hard to believe these due to insufficient evidence to back such claims?
1Peter 1:8 says: "Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy,". That to me is the essence of our faith. Christians are BELIEVERS.
If you are a christian and you have doubts about some of these things, you can prayerfully deal with it. It says in 2Peter 1:16 that we do not follow after cunningly deviced fables. His Divine birth, the life he lived here on earth, his death and resurrection are key truths of the christian faith. without them you would be talking about a different religion.
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simmy (m)
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@richyblack
Once again, as is usual in such threads u come across people with interesting logic
'Our Lord Jesus Christ, did not believe in some parts of the Bible because they were written after he died and resurrected'-- listen to yourself!!!!!!!
xctly what does that mean???
Xcept ure joking sha
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simmy (m)
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@topten the simple answer to ur type of thinking is, the bible is (at least supposd to be) congruent in its sayings thruought. So how do i selectively believe a book which is congruent in its sayings thruought? thts inviting confusion, i can't do that without contradicitng myself, its either i don't believe the bible at all or i believe everything. The fact that should be contested is whether the bible's teachings are congruent with each other, and opinions differ, its subjective |
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mellow (m)
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If you don't believe those things you are not a christain but
does that make you any less a child of God?
Jesus came from Jerusalem but Isreal but these guys
are still waiting for the messiah. Does this mean when they die
they won't go to heaven? because they don't believe Christ has come?
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aumefa
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The Bible was inspired by the Spirit of God. Contradictions in the Bible are assumptions of those that have little knowledge of it.
To our question, the early Christians and those that were first called Christians did not have access to a Bible. They actually made a part of the Bible.
The Bible stories do not make christians.
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dreamnaira (m)
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i thnk it wll be good u come out in full or comeup wth d theory u wnt 2 establish dan going around d issue indirectly. whn u come out in full den i can contribute. bt remember that God is nt man 2 play wth.
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Jduck13 (m)
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well the earth might not have been created in 7 days because god has different time than us since he is eternal
but if u don't believe Jesus didnt come out of a virgin then u r denying him as gods son and therefore u don't believe in him and am not christian because if Mary wasnt a virgin than the baby would be whoever had sex with her so to be gods son she had to be a virgin
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Jduck13 (m)
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@ temmyabal what u said is not a pointof view it is the truth it says so in the bible I'm glad u stood up for The Lord
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Jduck13 (m)
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@ mellow yes they will go to hell
John 3 16 for god so loved the world he gave his only begotten son for whosoever believeth in him shall have everlasting life
so if u don't believe in him u will not have everlasting life
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texazzpete (m)
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@Jduck13
I find it hard to accept you're a true Christian since you steadfastly refuse to capitalize the 'G' in God. Christians respect God enough not to write it as 'god'. If you're referring to Baal or Ogun, that's a different thing. . .
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simmy (m)
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@texasspete
y do Nigerians love trivialities?
I'm sure God Himself when he read that post didnt notice the small 'g', it was just an oversight!!!
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thesilent1 (m)
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hence why we are as religious as we currently are, focus on so much rules, traditions, "works".
i guess soon, someone will say that is grounds for missing slavation; spelling with lower case letters.
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mellow (m)
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hence why we are as religious as we currently are, focus on so much rules, traditions, "works".
i guess soon, someone will say that is grounds for missing slavation; spelling with lower case letters.
Beats me hollow |
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babyosisi (f)
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I would have said let's find out on judgement day but then it may be too late
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texazzpete (m)
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@texasspete
y do Nigerians love trivialities?
I'm sure God Himself when he read that post didnt notice the small 'g', it was just an oversight!!!
Well, perhaps you call that a 'triviality'. but it isn't to me and to most other Christians out there. When your believe implicitly in one God, then you've got to separate the one true Deity from the host of other fakes floating around. and as for the oversight part, he's done it so many times here! |
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texazzpete (m)
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i guess soon, someone will say that is grounds for missing slavation; spelling with lower case letters.
You actually meant 'salvation', not 'slavation', didn't you? thinly veiled. . . |
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thesilent1 (m)
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this is like talking to my English teacher in school! lol
okay, yes i meant salvation, but thank you for highlighting my unconscious comedy genius.
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Tasma
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@misright, it is quite impossible for any Christian to prove all the Bible stories are true. I think being a literal believer in the Bible is quite a task. That said though one can go more for the spirit behind the Bible. I guess in a way that was Jesus's message too. Follow the spirit of the law and not just the law. Whether you are not a Christian because you don't believe in all the Biblical stories is frankly not important. Our actions and behavior judge us more than what we claim to believe.
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Telly B (m)
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@misright,
Let me even ask: having asked yourself your own questions, what do you really believe??
And whatever you believe, where does that leave you as a Christian (or perhaps, a Baptist in particular)??
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KAG (f)
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Are You A Christian If You Don't Believe Every Bible Story?
If you don't believe the earth was created in seven days;
If you don't believe Jesus literally rose from the dead;
If you don't genuinely believe that an omniscient God implanted
a divine foetus in the womb of a virgin human woman, are you really a Christian? Yes; yes; iffy, but still probable; possibly. The main critereon is accepting Jesus as your saviour, no? The Bible was inspired by the Spirit of God. Contradictions in the Bible are assumptions of those that have little knowledge of it. That's untrue. Claims of inerrancy are asumptions by those, usually fundamentalists, who have little knowledge of the Bible. |
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misright (f)
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@misright,
Let me even ask: having asked yourself your own questions, what do you really believe??
And whatever you believe, where does that leave you as a Christian (or perhaps, a Baptist in particular)??
I believe in what i knw and what i knw is what the Bible teaches! |
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Telly B (m)
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I believe in what i knw and what i knw is what the Bible teaches!
Great. Then what was the thread all about in the first place? |
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misright (f)
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Great. Then what was the thread all about in the first place? I learn from de best that's why i've choosen to be a member of nairaland. u knw what u don't knw. |
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