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cashflowpc (m)
The Lord's Prayer
« on: May 22, 2007, 03:58 PM »

Our Father, who art in heaven,

hallowed be thy name.

Thy Kingdom come,

thy will be done,

on earth as it is in heaven

Give us this day our daily bread.

And forgive us our trespasses,

as we forgive those who trespass against us.

And lead us not into temptation,

but deliver us from evil.

For thine is the kingdom, the power and the glory. for ever and ever. Amen

The Challenge

I cannot say OUR if I live only for myself.

I Cannot say FATHER if I do not endeavor each day to act like His child.

I cannot say WHO ART IN HEAVEN if I am laying up no treasure there.

I cannot say HALLOWED BE THY NAME if I am not striving for holiness.

I cannot say THY KINGDOM COME if I am not doing all in my power to hasten that wonderful event.

I cannot say THY WILL BE DONE if I am disobedient to His word.

I cannot say ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN if I will not serve Him here and now.

I cannot say GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD if I am dishonest or seeking things by subterfuge.

I cannot say FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES if I harbor a grudge against anyone.

I cannot say LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION if I deliberately place myself in its path.

I cannot say DELIVER US FROM EVIL if I do not put on the whole armor of God.

I cannot say THINE IS THE KINGDOM if I do not give the King the loyalty due him from a faithful subject.

I cannot say THE POWER if I fear what others may do.

I cannot say THE GLORY if I am seeking honor only for myself.

I cannot say FOREVER if the horizon of my life is bounded by the things of today.
Telly B (m)
Re: Challenging The Lord's Prayer
« #1 on: May 22, 2007, 07:18 PM »

Is the topic not quite misleading? Good intentions, perhaps; but method of delivery. . .??
mrpataki (m)
Re: Challenging The Lord's Prayer
« #2 on: May 22, 2007, 08:20 PM »

Quote from: cashflowpc on May 22, 2007, 03:58 PM
CHALLENGING THE LORD'S PRAYER

I cannot say OUR if I live only for myself.

I Cannot say FATHER if I do not endeavor each day to act like His child.

I cannot say WHO ART IN HEAVEN if I am laying up no treasure there.

I cannot say HALLOWED BE THY NAME if I am not striving for holiness.

I cannot say THY KINGDOM COME if I am not doing all in my power to hasten that wonderful event.

I cannot say THY WILL BE DONE if I am disobedient to His word.

I cannot say ON EARTH AS IT IS IN HEAVEN if I will not serve Him here and now.

I cannot say GIVE US THIS DAY OUR DAILY BREAD if I am dishonest or seeking things by subterfuge.

I cannot say FORGIVE US OUR TRESPASSES if I harbor a grudge against anyone.

I cannot say LEAD US NOT INTO TEMPTATION if I deliberately place myself in its path.

I cannot say DELIVER US FROM EVIL if I do not put on the whole armor of God.

I cannot say THINE IS THE KINGDOM if I do not give the King the loyalty due him from a faithful subject.

I cannot say THE POWER if I fear what others may do.

I cannot say THE GLORY if I am seeking honor only for myself.

I cannot say FOREVER if the horizon of my life is bounded by the things of today.

I will suggest you refine the topic headliner! Interesting though Wink
dinner m (f)
Re: Challenging The Lord's Prayer
« #3 on: May 23, 2007, 12:03 AM »

its cool,but i don't get the point,could u modernize it.
thesilent1 (m)
Re: Challenging The Lord's Prayer
« #4 on: May 23, 2007, 11:11 AM »

Huh

i thought there was a difference between a prayer and a statement?

the above is a prayer, a plea, a person humbling themselves to another by virtue of them declaring that they need the person being prayed to.

if however i make the above as statements  of fact while yet living a life that contradicts that which i claim, then some will simply call that hypocrisy and that dear friend, has been alive for a looooong time.
Telly B (m)
Re: Challenging The Lord's Prayer
« #5 on: May 23, 2007, 12:02 PM »

yes - that's right. But te hypocrisy of some is not the same thing as providing grounds for "challenging the Lord's prayer". Being challenged by that prayer is one thing; but challenging that prayer is quite another thing!  Cheesy
thesilent1 (m)
Re: Challenging The Lord's Prayer
« #6 on: May 23, 2007, 12:04 PM »

jhn 8: 32 - simplicity
donnie (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #7 on: June 08, 2007, 04:49 PM »

I do not pray that prayer
Telly B (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #8 on: June 08, 2007, 11:07 PM »

@cashflowpc,

Wonderful! I see you've fine-tuned your post to make it more understandable. Many blessings.  Smiley

-------------------------

@donnie,

Quote from: donnie on June 08, 2007, 04:49 PM
I do not pray that prayer

Why so?
donnie (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #9 on: June 10, 2007, 05:47 PM »

Because that was not the Lord's prayer .  It was a format for prayer he gave to them.


He said, after this manner pray. He did not say, Pray this prayer.

I have looked at the lines and a lot does not apply to the new testament maturing believer.

Reverend (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #10 on: June 10, 2007, 06:10 PM »

Give us this day our daily bread Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

Nobody is listening  Undecided


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donnie (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #11 on: June 10, 2007, 06:23 PM »

Do not speak for that child.

He is waitng on people like me and you to come to his aid and show that God is still alive. We are the voice, hands and feet of Jesus. We are His representatives in the world today.
Reverend (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #12 on: June 10, 2007, 06:28 PM »

Quote from: donnie on June 10, 2007, 06:23 PM
Do not speak for that child.

He is waitng on people like me and you to come to his aid and show that God is still alive. We are the voice, hands and feet of Jesus. We are His representatives in the world today.

If there was a God, the all powerful, all loving and all caring invisible person who you refer to constantly that is so perfect,  why does this happen in the first place?

Let me tell you why

Because he is a figment of your imagination and does not exist  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed
Telly B (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #13 on: June 10, 2007, 07:43 PM »

Quote from: Reverend on June 10, 2007, 06:28 PM
Because he is a figment of your imagination and does not exist  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

In other words, you  are quite content to see suffering and do NOTHING about it simply because you don't believe God exists. You should long ago have told Rev. Fletcher that before his retirement and before your and your crew cheated on gullible Africans to post their nude pictures on your website.
Telly B (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #14 on: June 10, 2007, 07:45 PM »

@donnie,

Quote from: donnie on June 10, 2007, 05:47 PM
I have looked at the lines and a lot does not apply to the new testament maturing believer.

Which lot do not apply to the NT maturing believer?
otuwe (f)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #15 on: June 12, 2007, 09:11 AM »

Quote from: Reverend on June 10, 2007, 06:28 PM
If there was a God, the all powerful, all loving and all caring invisible person who you refer to constantly that is so perfect,  why does this happen in the first place?

Let me tell you why

Because he is a figment of your imagination and does not exist  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

i pity you, when u drop the flesh then realise that there truely is God then words wont be enough to explain ur condition,

you really need Help. its because of people like u that we have that hungry child there but i put it to you that child is far better than u because she sees beyond the flesh external(which am sure is all u think about).

well i pray you open ur eyes soon and redeem yourself or suffer spiritual death
Aproko (f)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #16 on: June 12, 2007, 09:53 AM »

@ reverend,

what sort of reverend are you?

the reason that child is like that is more than i can tell you. but the reason you have come across that child and more like him is so you can help. if you choose not to help and leave the child suffering and show us his picture to prove a point(which is not really proven), does that have anything to do with God? no my dear, it has everything to do with your free will and what you choose to do with it.

that is the story of our existence. a lot of us have avenues to help, but instead of helping we blame God for our wrong decisions and say he doesnt exist, probably to justify the guilt we feel inside. Undecided

well since you don't think God exist to help that child, since you exist, how have you helped him or many more like him that you have come across? Huh Huh
otuwe (f)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #17 on: June 12, 2007, 10:21 AM »

Quote from: Reverend on June 10, 2007, 06:10 PM
If there was a God, the all powerful, all loving and all caring invisible person who you refer to constantly that is so perfect,  why does this happen in the first place?
Undecided



i usually used to think u were wise but now ive realised u r so empty because if you think God doesnt exist then that means u are just a pack of sand because i know its God who gave us the Breathe of Life.

what if i tell u that i don't think Barbers exist and that if they do then how come there are people all over the world with long tattered and unkept hair, what would be ur reply,

use that same reply and equate it to why people are suffering,
Telly B (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #18 on: June 12, 2007, 11:44 AM »

Quote from: Telly B on June 10, 2007, 07:45 PM
Which lot do not apply to the NT maturing believer?

@donnie, how far?  Undecided
thesilent1 (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #19 on: June 12, 2007, 02:22 PM »

Quote
but the reason you have come across that child and more like him is so you can help. if you choose not to help and leave the child suffering and show us his picture to prove a point(which is not really proven), does that have anything to do with God? no my dear, it has everything to do with your free will and what you choose to do with it

WOW!

no matter your beliefs Rev, what do you say to this!?!?!?
bari_kade
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #20 on: June 22, 2007, 02:02 PM »

One of the blessings of reading the Lord's Prayer in Matthew 6:9-13 is that it speaks to my heart that no matter how far advanced one might consider himself/herself in the Christian might, we should never forget that a childlike spirit is of great value before God.

That prayer is one of the simplest prayer; and for me, it's not just a principle, but actually a prayer. Matt. 6:9 presents us with the principle ("After this manner therefore pray ye: "); but Luke 11:2 presents us with the prayer itself where the Lord Jesus said to His disciples (grown men): "When ye pray, SAY. . ."

As a prayer, it is so simple that any child could SAY it. It is as well rich in meaning and covers huge concerns in our relationship both with God and men.

This prayer has blessed me in its simplicity in reminding me of three things anytime I pray:

(a) it's a simple prayer; therefore, my prayers should be as simple and void of sophistication. I believe this is why in that same Matt. 6:7, the Lord cautioned against  any tendency I might have to sound sophisticated: "But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking."

(b) it's a prayer of relationship; therefore I should avoid playing "religion" in approaching God in prayer. The first thing to remember is that God is my FATHER; and as such, I should ever be conscious of the divine relationship He has granted me with Him.

(c) it's a lifestyle prayer; and as such I should remember to live according to the longings expressed in my prayers rather than live contrary to what I pray! Psalm 19:14 says: "Let the words of my mouth, and the meditation of my heart, be acceptable in thy sight, O LORD, my strength, and my redeemer." It  is no wonder that immediately following the Lord's Prayer in Matt. 6:13, He cautions in vs. 13: "For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you"

There are other blessings that are in the Lord's Prayer; but these are a few of those that are constantly in my heart whenever I seek God in prayer.
Reverend (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #21 on: June 23, 2007, 07:56 AM »

This should be the real version  Lips sealed

Our Father, 
Which aren't in heaven, 
Hollow be thy name, 
Thy kingdom's done, 
Thou willt be gone, 
From earth and leave us untethered, 
Living each day our daily dread, 
And forgo us our distresses, 
For we relive those dispensed against us, 
Leave the rotting complications, 
And deliver us our freewill, 
For mine is this freedom, 
On the hour of this story, 
Forever endeavor. 
Amen.
Reverend (m)
Re: The Lord's Prayer
« #22 on: June 23, 2007, 07:57 AM »

Our father 
who aren't in heaven, 
Hollow be thy name. 
Thy kingdom dead, 
thy will be read. 
On earth as if there were a heaven. 
Give us this day our daily dream 
and deliver us from reality. 
For thine is the falsehood, 
the corruption 
and the Horror 
forever and ever
Hy-men.
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