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Orikinla (m)
Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« on: May 23, 2007, 02:46 PM »

Polygamy is actually not a sin.

There is no where in the Holy Bible that, it is stated that polygamy is a sin.

Only pastors, bishops and other ministers are commanded to be the the husband of one wife.

When Moses married another wife, God did not condemn him.
Jacob had two.
King David had many.
King Solomon had a legion of wives.

How many should Orikinla have?
One and one alone or plenty of fish. Grin

So, if you are not a pastor, bishop or minister, you are not bound to marry only one wife.

God said, let us reason together.
So, I want to reason with my Almighty Father on polygamy by mutual consent.

 
Seun (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #1 on: June 03, 2007, 01:27 PM »

Go ahead and marry two or more wives if you want to.  Make sure you don't deceive the first wife about your intentions.
mrmayor (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #2 on: June 03, 2007, 01:37 PM »



Dude,you actually do have a sense of humour Grin Grin Cheesy Cheesy I have to rethink my opinion about UI wonder what all the pastors in the house would think
frosbel (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #3 on: June 03, 2007, 01:48 PM »

Sorry but I have heard this opt out statement many times especially from people who have no self control over their sex life.

In every part of the bible the mention of wife is in the singular and not plural .

 Eph. 5:23, "For the husband is the head of the wife ( NOT WIVES ), even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour

 Eph. 5:31-32, "31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife ( not wives ), and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church."

I can go on and on , but Jesus Explicitly told us in no uncertain terms that marriage is for one man and one woman and that anything else is adultery.

It surprises me how people, especially from my igbo tribe, try to twist the scriptures to fulfill their own agendas.

It is not worth it, forbid the thought - It is a sure way down to Hell.
stimulus (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #4 on: June 03, 2007, 02:54 PM »

@frosbel,

Quote from: frosbel on June 03, 2007, 01:48 PM
In every part of the bible the mention of wife is in the singular and not plural .

I concur o jare! And here's another to those you already cited:

I Cor. 7:2 -- "Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband."


Quote from: Orikinla on May 23, 2007, 02:46 PM
When Moses married another wife, God did not condemn him.

@Orikinla, could you remind us who the two wives of Moses were?  Undecided
pilgrim.1 (f)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #5 on: August 05, 2007, 08:20 PM »

Polygamy is not a recommendation for Christians - whether ministers or others. Each man to his wife; each woman to her husband.
Ndipe (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #6 on: August 05, 2007, 10:10 PM »

Orikinla, where is it written in the Holy Bible that Moses had two wives?
IDINRETE
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #7 on: August 06, 2007, 12:53 AM »

Quote from: Ndipe on August 05, 2007, 10:10 PM
Orikinla, where is it written in the Holy Bible that Moses had two wives?

THEN MOSES WAS CONTENT TO LIVE WITH THE MAN [i.e. Jethro the priest of Midian] , AND HE GAVE ZIPPORAH HIS DAUGHTER TO MOSES. AND SHE BORE HIM A SON,  EXODUS 2: 21-22 THE NEW KING JAMES VERSION

THEN MIRIAM AND AARON SPOKE AGAINST MOSES BECAUSE OF THE ETHIOPIAN WOMAN WHOM HE HAD MARRIED. FOR HE HAD MARRIED AN ETHIOPIAN WOMAN
, NUMBERS 12: 1  THE NEW KING JAMES VERSION.

Perhaps Moses might have divorced Zipporah before marrying the Ethiopian woman.
Vicjustice (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #8 on: August 08, 2007, 08:54 AM »

Quote from: Orikinla on May 23, 2007, 02:46 PM
Polygamy is actually not a sin.

There is no where in the Holy Bible that, it is stated that polygamy is a sin.

Only pastors, bishops and other ministers are commanded to be the the husband of one wife.

When Moses married another wife, God did not condemn him.
Jacob had two.
King David had many.
King Solomon had a legion of wives.

How many should Orikinla have?
One and one alone or plenty of fish. Grin

So, if you are not a pastor, bishop or minister, you are not bound to marry only one wife.

God said, let us reason together.
So, I want to reason with my Almighty Father on polygamy by mutual consent.

How much have you read the new testament and you found out that it's not written in it?
OLAADEGBU (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #9 on: August 08, 2007, 10:57 AM »

@Orikinla,

I can crack the joke that you are implying here and can see your sense of humour Grin
You can also click on the link below and see another light hearted humour about what happened to a king who married four wives; Grin   #17

http://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-69334.0.html

On a serious note Jesus our perfect example referred us to the beginning of the creation of mankind:

  5 And said, For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and shall be united firmly (joined inseparably) to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh?

    6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder (separate).
  Matt.19:5-6.

Those who want to follow the examples of marriage laid by David, Solomon and Jacob should also be prepared to live with the consequences that plagued their family lives Grin

@IDINRETE

 Moses was not married to two wives at the same period , the Ethiopian woman (Cushite otherwise nubian precisely) was married after Zipporah had probably died or divorced.  Rom.7:2,3;Matt.5:31,32.  (I am open for correction here if I am wrong) Grin

@all

Check out the following references to give you an idea that God is against the idea of multiplying wives to ourselves both in the O.T and in the N.T.  Deut.7:1-4;Mal.2-14;Rom.7:2,3;Eph.5:31-33;Matt.5:31-32;19:3-9;Gen.2:24;20:3,7.

God bless you abundantly. Smiley

   
 
OLAADEGBU (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #10 on: August 08, 2007, 11:42 AM »

I just came across this verse, so I thought that I should chip it in;

Deuteronomy 17:17
And he shall not multiply wives to himself, that his [mind and] heart turn not away; neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.
Deuteronomy 17:16-18 (in Context) Deuteronomy 17 (Whole Chapter)
   Does "king Solomon" ring a bell? Wink

Therefore it is a sin to marry more than one wife(woman) otherwise God who constituted marriage in Genesis would have created Adam and Steve or Adam, Eve and Suzanne Grin
TV01 (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #11 on: August 08, 2007, 12:15 PM »

As you can see, Moses was way ahead of his time. The first man to have a BlackBerry Grin!

Quote from: OLAADEGBU on August 08, 2007, 10:57 AM
Moses was not married to two wives at the same period , the Ethiopian woman (Cushite otherwise nubian precisely)

(I wonder how many lobbies I can upset with that one? Black, Jewish, Womens, etc  Cool)
Ndipe (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #12 on: August 08, 2007, 10:08 PM »

The conflict that arose between Moses and his siblings over his marriage to the Ethiopian woman should serve as a lesson to some racists who view interracial relationships as deviating from the Word of God.

As for Orikinla claiming that Moses was polygamous, I did check, and it is probably likely that Zipporah died, prior to his marriage to the Ethiopian wife.
OLAADEGBU (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #13 on: August 09, 2007, 05:02 PM »

@Ndipe,

Thanks for the clarification on Zipporah.  Remain blessed.

@TV01,

I made researches about who the nubians were apart from the fact that they were blacks I also learnt that they used to be the original occupants of Egypt before they were displaced by the present egyptians due to their idolatory, can anyone confirm or disprove this theory?

May God richly bless and keep you.
pilgrim.1 (f)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #14 on: August 12, 2007, 09:45 AM »

Quote from: Ndipe on August 08, 2007, 10:08 PM
The conflict that arose between Moses and his siblings over his marriage to the Ethiopian woman should serve as a lesson to some racists who view interracial relationships as deviating from the Word of God.

As for Orikinla claiming that Moses was polygamous, I did check, and it is probably likely that Zipporah died, prior to his marriage to the Ethiopian wife.

Abeg help me tell them. Not many people have the time to check on the lessons we should learn from issues in the life of leaders. All in all, I'm reminded of the following:

Hebrews 12:1 & 2
"Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us, Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God."
Orikinla (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #15 on: August 12, 2007, 05:23 PM »

I have to read your views well before my reply.

What matters most to God is obeying his commandments. And I did not read where God rebuked or condemned Jacob or David for having more than one wife.
Even Leah and her sister Rachel gave their maids to Jacob to marry and Jacob did not reject the offers and God did not tell him to return them.

There are so many widows in Nigeria and many are still young,
So, what should they do?
Become nuns?

There are more women than men.
The over 500 men killed during the last April elections in Nigeria had women and now the women are bereaved and lonely. And it would be wicked to starve them. So, why not marry them and since sharing is caring, we should be glad to share our love with them.

In traditional African society, widows are given to the husbands to care for them.
This is very realistic.

Most women who support one husband and one wife, do so out of selfishness.

Do you know what lonely women go through?

When you hook a man, you forget that he has actually left another woman for you.
And what should the forsaken woman do?
Look for another man?
What if there is none available on the loacation and in the situation?

I knew a lonely widow that always kept a banana in her bedroom and she never ate it.
Of course I know what she was using the banana for.

No wonder women love bananas.
It is very useful.

Monogamy is not realistic.

I will only stick to one wife in compliance with the rule of the Redeemed Christian Church of Church (RCCG).
But I will ask for the permission of God to practice Federal Charater in marriage.

7 wives would do.

1. Ngozi - Igbo
2. Inih - Akwa Ibom/Cross River
3. Ivie - Edo
4. Funke (Funky baby) - Yoruba
5. Lantana - Hausa
6. There is one from Benue and
7. One hot Kogi babe.

They will have 3 children each.

I have inherited 30 plots of land. So, we can develop the plots to a have an estate and have tenants to pay rent to give us enough money for other provisions and ventures.

The Igbos will grow palm trees and my Malaysian girlfriend will teach them how Malaysia makes more dollars from palm oil than we make from crude oil. Cross pollination may occur in the process of the exchange program. Cross breeding pays.
Another Ramsey Nouah can make it in Nollywood and make us more millions.

The Akwa Ibom/Cross River will collect allocation from oil revenue and if the government fails to pay us, they can kidnap the foreign oil workers and a ransom of $500, 000 should be enough to build a gas station in Benin Republic to generate regular hard currency.
And they will also do fishing and sell dog pepper soup.

The Edos will grow rubber and banana.
No. I have banned any of my daughters going professional in Italy.

The Yorubas will grow Cocoa and collect Owo Ile Levies from the tenants. And produce Aso Oke for local and international market.

The Hausas must revive the groundnut pyramids in our estate. Two pyramids of groundnut would do. And help to do forex business with the dollars and pounds we make from our foreign trade.

The ones from Kogi and Benue will grow roots, pepper and other crops
 
Now you can see why and how polygamy actually helped our Nigerian economy to boom in the 1960s and 1970s until our traditional ways of life changed.

Who says plygamy does not pay?
Give me seven healthy and fertile women and give me 14 years to prove that polygamy pays.
If I fail, then i will settle for monogamy.
Finis.

Who can challenge me?

I prefer seven single village women who can farm and who can cook and keep on responding for four hours in the bedroom.
One woman a day.

We are going to live in the rural areas. And we are going to be devout Christians.
One family, and only one God under the sun.
And the ten commandments will guide and guard us.
Like the twelve tribes of Israel.



pilgrim.1 (f)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #16 on: August 12, 2007, 06:06 PM »

Lol. . . I couldn't wait to smile at your post, Orinkinla. Your recommendations will be left to those for whom they are prepared.  Grin But for now, let me offer this one:

Quote from: Orikinla on August 12, 2007, 05:23 PM
There are so many widows in Nigeria and many are still young,
So, what should they do?
Become nuns?

1 Tim. 5:14 -- "I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully."

Quote from: Orikinla on August 12, 2007, 05:23 PM
Do you know what lonely women go through?

I do. Do you?

Quote from: Orikinla on August 12, 2007, 05:23 PM
Monogamy is not realistic.

It is the best thing for REAL people. Grin
Orikinla (m)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #17 on: August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM »

Quote from: pilgrim.1 on August 12, 2007, 06:06 PM
Lol. . . I couldn't wait to smile at your post, Orinkinla. Your recommendations will be left to those for whom they are prepared.  Grin But for now, let me offer this one:

1 Tim. 5:14 -- "I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully."

I do. Do you?

It is the best thing for REAL people. Grin

So Jacob, David, Solomon and the others anointed by the Almighty God and had more than one wife were not real people.

In the name of monogamy, my father married my mother and left the woman who gave him his first child. And the child who is now 52 still feels that my mother deprived her of the love of living and growing up with her beloved father. She looks like him more than any of the other children. I would have preferred my father married my mother and her mother.
Her mother never married and had five other children for other men. Because, she felt betrayed by her first man.

When love is shared, it would be multiplied.


I like being honest.
If have an erection, I won't deny it even in public.
A man can love more than one woman.

My point is, a monogamist is not holier than a polygamist.
What matters most is to obey the commandments of God.
Thou shall not commit adultery is not thou shall not commit polygamy.



 
pilgrim.1 (f)
Re: Polygamy Is Not A Sin, But Only A Recommendation To Christian Ministers
« #18 on: August 14, 2007, 03:49 PM »

Orinkinla tun dé O!  Grin

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
So Jacob, David, Solomon and the others anointed by the Almighty God and had more than one wife were not real people.

Before you multiply your eyes on the 'wifery', let's read what came before those men:

   Deuteronomy 17:15, 17-19
   "Thou shalt in any wise set him king over thee, whom the LORD thy God shall choose:
   one from among thy brethren shalt thou set king over thee: thou mayest not set a stranger
   over thee, which is not thy brother. . . Neither shall he multiply wives to himself, that his
   heart turn not away: neither shall he greatly multiply to himself silver and gold.

   "And it shall be, when he sitteth upon the throne of his kingdom, that he shall write him
   a copy of this law in a book out of that which is before the priests the Levites: And it
   shall be with him, and he shall read therein all the days of his life: that he may learn to
   fear the LORD his God, to keep all the words of this law and these statutes, to do them"

Now, Deuteronomy came BEFORE David and Solomon - and that which came before them cannot be manipulated after their arrival.

What about Jacob? He actually came Before Deuteronomy was given; but did you hear what he said towards the end of his life? Here:

Gen. 47:9 -- "And Jacob said unto Pharaoh, The days of the years of my pilgrimage are an hundred and thirty years: few and evil have the days of the years of my life been, and have not attained unto the days of the years of the life of my fathers in the days of their pilgrimage."

Did you wonder that at the full ripe age of 130 years, the blessed patriarch Jacob had seen enough wahala with 4 women all at once? Of all the times I read in Scripture about the deportment of Jacob, he was angry at least two times (maybe more - I only remember two for now). Guess whom he was angry with?

       (a) his beloved and favourite wife, Rachel: "And Jacob's anger was kindled against Rachel" (Gen. 30: 2)

       (b) his enigmatic father-in-law, Laban: "And Jacob was wroth, and chode with Laban" (Gen. 31:36)

Haba! Everything dey annoy Jacob! Grin Why not? With 4 wives from one crafty father-in-law, a man should have enough wahala to last a lifetime. Even sef, it is not surprising that his anger rubbed off of his boys: "the sons of Jacob came out of the field when they heard it: and the men were grieved, and they were very wroth" (Gen. 34:7).  Grin

Okay, I've been teasing you so far. But let's go back to David and Solomon again. When Solomon had 1,000 women to himself, it is clear he was contravening Deut. 17:17 - and in process of time, his heart also was distracted in devotion to God (see 1 Kings 11:3-4).

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
In the name of monogamy, my father married my mother and left the woman who gave him his first child. And the child who is now 52 still feels that my mother deprived her of the love of living and growing up with her beloved father. She looks like him more than any of the other children. I would have preferred my father married my mother and her mother.

I'm sorry to hear that; and I would still respect your family anyday.

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
Her mother never married and had five other children for other men. Because, she felt betrayed by her first man.

I have a few friends with similar recollections. Although I could not help them about the way they feel (anger, bitterness, resentments), in my understanding, perhaps that is one more reason why sticking to one's sweetheart would be highly recommended.

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
When love is shared, it would be multiplied.

Depends on whom we are sharing it with. Love cannot be 'multiplied' when some are left abandoned by the ones who are supposed to have loved them in the first place.

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
I like being honest.
If have an erection, I won't deny it even in public.
A man can love more than one woman.

Like I said, your recommendation for those to whom it concerns. Grin

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
My point is, a monogamist is not holier than a polygamist.
What matters most is to obey the commandments of God.

We're all asked to walk in holiness; and one is not made holy on the basis of being married or abstaining from marriage.

Quote from: Orikinla on August 14, 2007, 03:11 PM
Thou shall not commit adultery is not thou shall not commit polygamy.

There's a law that is given against adultery; but no law was instituted to encourage polygamy.

It is just like arguing to say: 'thou shalt not tell a lie is not thou shall not commit perjury!'

Anyway, enjoy your life in Christ.  Smiley
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