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frosbel (m)
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More stop and quiz terror powers [i][/i] Police officers would be able to stop and question people Proposed new anti-terror laws could give police greater powers to stop and question anyone in the UK Are our rights been gradually taken away 
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davidylan (m)
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What do you expect the government to do? If they sit back and do nothing we all cry, sob and declare them inefficient, they take a step in the right direction and we cry and groan about our rights being taken away.
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frosbel (m)
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my problem with these laws is that they are always certainly subject to abuse.
So while the concept maybe valid , there are elements in the security and police services that will abuse these rights especially with respect to minorities.
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I-man (m)
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my problem with these laws is that they are always certainly subject to abuse.
So while the concept maybe valid , there are elements in the security and police services that will abuse these rights especially with respect to minorities.
Each and every law on the statutes book is subject to the risk of abuse.However,national security demands that tough action be taken with regards to terrorism. Its not simply,a question of civil liberties versus national security.Civil liberties also demands the protection of the lives and wellbeing of the populace from the scourge of terrorism |
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davidylan (m)
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that precisely brings me back to my first question. It is not enough to groan about rights abuses, how else do you think the police can effectively solve the terror issue? We have terrorists camouflaged as ordinary citizens and even women. We had situations were the terrorists exploited the fact that police officers are not allowed into mosques to continue to spread their message of hate and indoctrinate others against the very same system that guarantees the freedoms they so readily abuse.
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frosbel (m)
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Under the new laws, police will not need to suspect that a crime has taken place and can use the power to gain information about “matters relevant” to terror investigations.
Anyone who refused to give their name or explain what they were doing could be charged with obstructing the police and fined up to £5,000.
Hmm, that sounds about right ,
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davidylan (m)
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Frosbel, the rights you crave are the same that your terrorists are exploiting against you. There is one reason Isreal has yet to suffer terror activities on the same scale as those of the US and Europe despite being surrounded by their enemies; their security forces actively discriminate on the basis of race. While many of us on the other side of the atlantic may cringe in horror, Isreal is a much more safer place today.
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