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ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #64 on: June 03, 2007, 09:11 PM »

Well just as long as you make sure that he's responsible for this "mistake". It has always annoyed me on how most BA grandmothers would be the ones to take the burden of their young pregnant teens while they are left to continue in that wreckless way and such. "The baby's at my mom's" while they're out roaming the mall or whatever, such irritates me to no end. It's like fine, it's one thing to help out but it's another where it's the mother of the teen that is raising the "mistake" for him/her.

and i didnt mean just kick him out just that your comment about him being destined to have kids from various women all over and you just accepying them bothered me.  Undecided
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #65 on: June 03, 2007, 09:34 PM »

TOH,

What about these 19 year old young women like one-- who stabbed her baby with a knife and left him undressed in the snow. The baby survived.

A lot of Grandmothers just take their grandchildren to make sure they are clothed, warm and fed because the young people got no patience for raising kids anymore.

Me I would be terrified if this girl had my grandbaby and raised the baby even with my son with her.

If she is pregnant, then I have every intention of raising the baby myself. To ensure it's survival. At least until she or my son finish's college.

The girl actually comes from a family with a lot of money and will inherit a lot of money but basically no common sense.  She is a A honor roll student also, like my oldest son. Imagine her parents horror. She attends the same Military Academy.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #66 on: June 03, 2007, 09:46 PM »

TOH,

And remember in America, babies no matter how they got here are not abandoned by the government.

Thus if African American Grandmothers did NOT take their grandbabies. Those babies would just be shipped to a foster home and raised from foster home to foster home.

So each grandparent faces a choice when they get the news that their child has had a baby and doesn't want to take care of it. Allow the baby to go to the foster care or take care of their grandbaby theirselves.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #67 on: June 03, 2007, 10:42 PM »

I wouldnt take care of someone's else resposibility, I'd perfer the kid was raised better in foster care then end up resenting his/her real mother when he/she is older

cynical? maybe but seriously people should start cleaning up their own mess instead of throwing it all on family.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #68 on: June 03, 2007, 11:05 PM »

TOH,

You think that is cynical? Listen to this.

Black Grandmothers have won the right to recieve the same funding that a foster parent would recieve for a child removed from his home by child protection.

Thus Black Grandmothers went from having recieved 200 to 500 dollars per month welfare for all 4 or 5 children, of their own.

To recieving for instance 620 per child per month for each grand child. Even if they adopt them.

So Black Grandmothers you be seeing with 4 or 5 or their grandchildren. My Brother's mother has raised 7 of her son's kids.


They be ahh, recieving 2000 to 5000 dollars every month depending on how many grandchildren they can raise.

That is how cynical I am. I believe the money is a big factor for Black Grandmothers raising their own grand children.

They do not mind at all. Like you think.

2 other factors that might help you, see it through their eyes.

Older Black woman and Black Children have traditionally been the poorest group in America. Because Black maids got no retirement plans or 401k's, so they had nothing for their children to inherit.

It's almost as if the crack epidemic (which was called a woman's drug) caused a little prospeirty to older Black women and the children they raised as the mothers had their babies taken for not taking care of them due to addiction.

It is kind of more than ironic that they got so little money for taking care of white folks kids but then got so much for finally sitting down and taking care of their own grand babies.
Adura_ngba (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #69 on: June 03, 2007, 11:20 PM »

U this Drusilla - abi kilo ru ko e gan.

Wait till i catch u - i say leave oyinbo alone.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #70 on: June 03, 2007, 11:28 PM »

That's the damn PROBLEM. The fact that they don't mind.

If the teen KNEW that no one would ever bothered catering to their mess I seriously doubt they will continue to partake in such garbage. However they see the grandmother take in one, they figure well then I guess she wouldnt have a problem with me have another one and then another one. It doesnt take kids long to take advantage of things.

The fact that they even encourage this even more now because of govt money is disgusting.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #71 on: June 04, 2007, 12:12 AM »

Quote from: ThiefOfHearts on June 03, 2007, 11:28 PM
That's the damn PROBLEM. The fact that they don't mind.

If the teen KNEW that no one would ever bothered catering to their mess I seriously doubt they will continue to partake in such garbage. However they see the grandmother take in one, they figure well then I guess she wouldnt have a problem with me have another one and then another one. It doesnt take kids long to take advantage of things.

The fact that they even encourage this even more now because of govt money is disgusting.


TOH,

Actually Black Children in this country have had a noticeable reduction in teenage pregnancy's.

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Although non-Hispanic white teens have lower teen pregnancy rates (56.9 per 1,000 teens ages 15-19 in 2000) than either black non-Hispanic teens (151.0 per 1,000) or Hispanic teens (132.0 per 1,000), each racial/ethnic subgroup experienced declining rates in the 1990s. Non-Hispanic white and non-Hispanic black teens ages 15 to 19 experienced steady declines between 1990 and 2000. Teenage pregnancy rates for Hispanic teens did not begin declining until 1993. (See Figure 2)

http://www.childtrendsdatabank.org/indicators/14TeenPregnancy.cfm


So apparently Black Grandmothers acceptance of their grandbabies are not a factor in encouraging teen pregnancy rates. Unless you attribute the steady decline of Black teenage rates as one of the success's of Black Grandmothers. Maybe. I don't know.

I just know that acceptance of Black babies by Grandmothers does not lead to more teenage pregnancy.

The evidence contradicts your idea that our not minding it, is the cause of it. Teenagers been teenagers since the world began.

Even Jesus mother was said to be only 15.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #72 on: June 04, 2007, 12:15 AM »

Quote from: Adura_ngba on June 03, 2007, 11:20 PM
You this Drusilla - abi kilo ru ko e gan.

Wait till i catch u - i say leave oyinbo alone.

LOL SMILE. I leave Oyinbo alone alright. This thread is about not wrecking my own spirit and heart and children with demonization of white folks.

I am going to be a good girl now. I promise. Scouts honor.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #73 on: June 04, 2007, 12:16 AM »

Wait.

I'm not a scout.

LOL SMILE.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #74 on: June 04, 2007, 12:20 AM »

stats or not Dru, I still see it around and it bothers me. Still see the 13 yr olds with the strollers screaming at their bfs to stop playing b-ball and buy food for the baby yada yada. I have a friend whose boyfriend didnt know his "sister" was actually his mother and his "mother" was actually his gradmother until like a few years back. I remember thinking that was the most demented thing I've ever heard.

when I was a teen(raised by my own grandmother then, well for the 7 years I was in  sec school in Nigeria anyway) I was too busy reading Nancy Drew & Sweet Valley High. Sheesh.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #75 on: June 04, 2007, 12:45 AM »

Quote from: ThiefOfHearts on June 04, 2007, 12:20 AM
stats or not Dru, I still see it around and it bothers me. Still see the 13 yr olds with the strollers screaming at their bfs to stop playing b-ball and buy food for the baby yada yada. I have a friend whose boyfriend didnt know his "sister" was actually his mother and his "mother" was actually his gradmother until like a few years back. I remember thinking that was the most demented thing I've ever heard.

when I was a teen(raised by my own grandmother then, well for the 7 years I was in sec school in Nigeria anyway) I was too busy reading Nancy Drew & Sweet Valley High. Sheesh.

TOH,

Yeah, it's definitely around. The boyfriend not knowing his sister was his mother is not even unusal to my ears. I've even got that syndrome in my own family.

I by the way in case your wondering was not a teenage mother. I actually thought I was going to be childless because I did not get pregnant as a teenager like all those around me.   

I kind of had the silly idea in my mind that it was due to my whiteness and thus my "not carrying a baby well -- white genes" that me and all my sisters by my white mom, did not have children until we were over 18 years old.

I basically thought I would die young because I was the family "blacksheep" and die childless. My very religious preaching family had always assured me that I was going to hell for being so rebellious as a teenager. Although it did not prevent my entrance into the University.

I have 5 children. So apparently my mixed body can carry children well. Smile.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #76 on: June 04, 2007, 12:57 AM »

TOH,

By the way. I absolutely loved Nancy Drew and the Hardy boys series as a child. I could read at 6 years old. I read the whole set, my sister had got it for Christmas.

However, the SweetValley series came after my time. I think. I have seen my own children with it but I don't remember it as clearly.
Adura_ngba (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #77 on: June 04, 2007, 04:54 AM »

@Dru Hill

Are you married? I love u.
ThiefOfHearts (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #78 on: June 04, 2007, 05:08 AM »

Quote from: Drusilla on June 04, 2007, 12:45 AM

I basically thought I would die young because I was the family "blacksheep" and die childless. My very religious preaching family had always assured me that I was going to hell for being so rebellious as a teenager. Although it did not prevent my entrance into the University.

I'm confused about this, Dru. Were you considered "bad" and "rebellious" because you didnt have a baby as a teen or what do you mean?

and I loved the Hardy Boys and the Bobsey Twins and Judy Blume growing up! lol, that's what teens should be busy doing, READING dammit  Angry
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #79 on: June 04, 2007, 05:35 AM »

Quote from: ThiefOfHearts on June 04, 2007, 05:08 AM
I'm confused about this, Dru. Were you considered "bad" and "rebellious" because you didnt have a baby as a teen or what do you mean?

and I loved the Hardy Boys and the Bobsey Twins and Judy Blume growing up! lol, that's what teens should be busy doing, READING dammit Angry

TOH,

LOL SMILE. No, having a baby at a young age without being married would have just confirmed for my family that I was the devil. I come from a family of preachers.

As a youngster, I questioned the Bible. No person in my family would talk to me about 2 issues: Politics or Religion. They would actually warn each other about me. I would ask stupid questions like:

What color was it before God made dark or light?

The bad girl. Smile.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #80 on: June 04, 2007, 05:43 AM »

Quote from: Adura_ngba on June 04, 2007, 04:54 AM
@Dru Hill

Are you married? I love u.

Adura_ngba,

Hey, this thread is not about me personally.  Tongue

JustGood (m)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #81 on: June 06, 2007, 10:53 AM »

you mean you forgive yourself? you're also white, init?
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #82 on: June 06, 2007, 03:42 PM »

Justlie,

I've never been white. My birth certificate says Black. Everybody around me told me I was black. My whole country tells me I am Black.

I would have to first create a white me and then forgive her.

And that is what I did.

God forced me to consider a person, white, female, born just the same day as me. What would she know more than me about why this world was so messed up, just because she got the good end of the stick and I did not?

She wouldn't know more than me. So I forgave her. This fictional white woman, just like me. And that is how the Lord forced me to repent of demonizing white people.

Their not all being evil, some of them is just waking up in ignorance. They deserve a chance to be saved.
Islander (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #83 on: June 06, 2007, 06:52 PM »

Well Well Well. Wonders shall never end!!
tpia
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #84 on: June 06, 2007, 08:03 PM »

seriously though, do the white people know Drusilla has forgiven them?

or are the Nigerians/Nairaland members supposed to inform them?

I wonder if any white people care if she forgives them or not.


am jus' sayin'.

this affects you, not them, dre.  Besides, so far, I'm yet to see a difference.

all the best.
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #85 on: June 06, 2007, 08:33 PM »

Quote from: tpia on June 06, 2007, 08:03 PM
seriously though, do the white people know Drusilla has forgiven them?

or are the Nigerians/Nairaland members supposed to inform them?

I wonder if any white people care if she forgives them or not.

am jus' sayin'.

this affects you, not them, dre.  Besides, so far, I'm yet to see a difference.

all the best.

Tpia,

I think your right. Only white worshippers would care about this information. That is why it was so important that it be posted here at Nairaland.

Or somebody really happy for me personally to see such a heart change. There's quite a few of them. Thank you for your support.
blonde1 (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #86 on: June 07, 2007, 09:51 AM »

I hope this simply means that Drusilla will focus on positive things and on Black people and stop wasting time on resentment and hatred.

Victim mentality is very bad. If you focus on how much you've been hurt, it makes you weaker. If you focus on how make things better for you, it makes you stronger.

Ignore white people, I suppose they ignore you too anyway Smiley
JustGood (m)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #87 on: June 07, 2007, 04:00 PM »

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I was raised by my dad's mother. The Igbo one

Your papa na Portuguese and you dey call am Igbo again.

Doth thy confusion not thee maketh mad?
JustGood (m)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #88 on: June 07, 2007, 04:02 PM »

Drugilla, what makes you black and not white?
MayNjoku
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #89 on: June 09, 2007, 04:18 AM »

Abeg, stop being mean to Miss Drusilla, o Grin
Drusilla (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #90 on: June 10, 2007, 01:07 AM »

blonde1,

My white 'friends' say that I am unfair in that I will not tell them how to stop being racists. I always tell them I do not care what white people do, I am focused on my people.

A long time ago, when I had hope I could be bothered with white people. So this probably means that I may bother to argue with them again.

I'll see.
sexyLeamon (f)
Re: I've Decided To Forgive White People.
« #91 on: November 11, 2008, 04:23 AM »

white people are like GODS ON EARTH THEY CONTROLLED EVRYTHING EVEN AFRICA BELONG TO THEM.

what nonsense I guess you are the typical one who worship them Undecided
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